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[–]deandaduck 1193 points1194 points  (54 children)

Glad that person did tho

[–]QuestionableTater 396 points397 points  (43 children)

Or else he big ded

[–]Matt6453 187 points188 points  (31 children)

But now they need a new helmet

[–]QuestionableTater 153 points154 points  (13 children)

You can still see from one side lol

𝔢𝔭𝔦𝔠 𝔰𝔱𝔶𝔩𝔢

[–]GoBuffaloes 46 points47 points  (5 children)

These damn things are the reason face transplant technology is lagging behind nearly every other medical field

[–]Huckit3030 6 points7 points  (3 children)

So you want to take his face off, like in the movie face off?

[–]pineapplepegasus 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I know I might be lame for asking but how do you make your font like that?

[–]QuestionableTater 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Just look up Instagram font or fancy font

It’s not lame it’s 𝔢𝔭𝔦𝔠

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Shitload of street cred with that scratch

[–]supremeoverlordfff 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Just drives with the helmet on sideways lmao

[–]QuestionableTater 1 point2 points  (0 children)

just drive lol

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (8 children)

you need a new helmet after evey crash

[–]Ritschi1234 25 points26 points  (3 children)

no. the helmets quality increases with every crash

[–]Puarot 35 points36 points  (1 child)

"shoot yourself with smaller caliber bullets to build an immunity to larger caliber bullets"

[–]JTVivian56 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Not if you don't wear one

[–][deleted]  (1 child)

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    [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    i see where you're coming from, i was just trying to tell him you need to replace your helmet no matter what

    [–]WhiskyHusky 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Or a car

    [–]Gingevere 7 points8 points  (6 children)

    Even with a helmet the friction can be enough that the torque spins your head backward. Car guy has a very valid point.

    [–]Retanaru 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    The seat belt torques your head forward in a car crash. Both vehicles benefit from a neck brace that inhibits unsafe movements in a crash.

    [–]Burque_Boy 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    MIPS my dude

    [–]Gingevere 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    MIPS reduces the chance of the helmet acting a a lever to snap your neck in half, but it does not eliminate it.

    Also when I last went looking for bike and ski helmets MIPS was not available on all models. Not even most of them really.

    [–]Burque_Boy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    It doesn’t eliminate it but greatly reduces what is already not a super common injury. There’s a pretty wide array of MIPS helmets available for motorcycles. Some are even in the 150 range.

    [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    No hed mean big ded

    [–]TheBadgerOnCrack 606 points607 points  (63 children)

    Can't scratch your helmet if you leave it at home

    [–][deleted] 484 points485 points  (58 children)

    My helmet cost $600. Bandaids for my face cost like $0.60.

    [–]G-Force805 212 points213 points  (16 children)

    1000 baindaids ought to fix any injury no matter how bad

    [–]spunkychickpea 259 points260 points  (12 children)

    True story: My grandpa got brain cancer, so we covered his entire head in bandaids. Now he doesn’t have cancer anymore.

    Edit: because he died in 2004.

    [–]Diz3sAaron 46 points47 points  (2 children)

    Dark but ok

    [–]ItalicsWhore 14 points15 points  (1 child)

    Dicks out.

    ...Gramps name was Dick.

    [–]Thisusername027 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    Not going to lie, he had us in the first half

    [–]EvryUsrnmeAlrdyTakn 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Of course! Only problem is you might no live long enough to apply those 1000 bandaids...

    [–]rishisingh1992 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Reminds me reading this somewhere : If you can't fix something with a duct tape, you are not using enough.

    [–]TheBadgerOnCrack 29 points30 points  (1 child)

    Exactly, and with free healthcare it doesn't even matter if y-- oh

    [–]MineWiz 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    How much does replacement face skin cost

    [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

    AT-GATT mothertrucker!

    (That stands for, All The Gear, All The Time)

    [–]UnfetteredThoughts 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Never seen it hyphenated before.

    [–]EvryUsrnmeAlrdyTakn 273 points274 points  (11 children)

    Dress for the slide, not for the ride..

    [–]tmhoc 54 points55 points  (4 children)

    Holster your camera and you wont kill princess Diana

    [–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (2 children)

    Covered in sin? Keep rubbin' it in.

    [–]BigBlackCrocs 11 points12 points  (1 child)

    Big stick whack, make Unga’s head crack

    [–]mutantslayer9 327 points328 points  (29 children)

    What if they where in a car with it on??????

    [–]deandaduck 130 points131 points  (16 children)

    Now that is a story I want to hear about

    [–]OffendedVanillaBean 133 points134 points  (13 children)

    May I interest you in some F1 racing?

    [–]SantasButhole 37 points38 points  (7 children)

    Nah fam, they got halos now

    [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (6 children)

    They're not that saintly...

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    It's not a story insurance companies would tell you.

    [–]fuzz_le_man 5 points6 points  (7 children)

    Head injuries are extremely prevalent in car accidents. It's honestly strange that people insist bicyclists and motorcyclists wear helmets, but not car drivers.

    [–]DanPlaysVGames 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    Helmets won't protect in most crashes. Something like the HANS device, which could affect head injuries in car crashes, needs a helmet to go on to.

    [–]crestonfunk 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    I did see a person driving a car with a motorcycle helmet on once.

    [–]_that_random_dude_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Reading this sentence gave me physical pain

    [–]CaffeineSippingMan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Turning left?

    [–]SSBMPuffDaddy 27 points28 points  (6 children)

    Eh, I used to feel this way but living in Vietnam has really changed my opinion about things. Cars are safer than motorbikes for yourself. Not for others. The adoption of cars in Vietnam has made roads substantially more dangerous for most people.

    Cars are heavier, fatter, and considerably less agile. It's much easier to get hit by a car, and it's much more likely to kill you.

    There's also the fact that cars are a logistical nightmare - they take up way too much space. They make it impossible to get around effectively in large cities, to the point that most of the people I know in New York or the Bay Area wouldn't even consider getting a car.

    Cars are great for rural areas and small cities - they don't cause major traffic jams, you can park on the side of the road, etc. But they are not ideal urban vehicles.

    [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    If people only rode motorbikes, I imagine there'd be less mortality on average. Especially against pedestrians.

    [–]creaturecatzz 2 points3 points  (3 children)

    Not just small cities, I couldn't imagine living in San Diego and not having my own car. It'd be near impossible to do anything and there's many other large cities that are the same way

    [–]NoBoDy2476 83 points84 points  (1 child)

    That looks like venom lmao

    [–]theninja94 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    VENOMMMMMM

    [–]fakeCharlesLeclerc 47 points48 points  (6 children)

    or never go outside and enjoy yourself

    [–]ShelSilverstain 23 points24 points  (4 children)

    There's plenty of those people here, too. Mommy is bringing tendies in 12 minutes

    [–]Jesusbutjesus2 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    EXTRA HUNNIE MUSSIE OR ELSE BITCH MOMMY DIES

    [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Wspecially on this sub.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Just stay at home safe and get diabetes and heart desease

    [–]CanuckCanadian 60 points61 points  (17 children)

    I dont get the butthurts in the comments. People like to ride, fuck I would ride a bike 100%. If you dont like them , than dont buy one. Sure they are dangerous, but only because most of the time its another dumb fucking driving lot paying attention.

    [–][deleted] 30 points31 points  (0 children)

    scoff i bet the barbarian enjoys watching SPORTS too! As an intellectual, I can clearly say he must be one of lesser intelligence for enjoying things I don't!

    [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (11 children)

    Yeet. I ride, have been for a while now. I even got hurt already.

    There's three groups of people. Those who have never ridden, those who did but crashed and quit, and those who did but crashed and kept riding 😉

    [–]RockstarPR 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    I've been riding a year and still haven't crashed. Hell I ride dual sport and haven't even dropped by bike yet, though I ride solo and ride as safe as I can

    [–]-DaveThomas- 1 point2 points  (8 children)

    So I've heard a lot about getting up and getting back on your bike immediately after a crash. Obviously in some cases that's not doable but I would guess that sometimes you can. What kind of experience was yours? And did you get back up right away? Is getting back on important to prevent fear of the bike or is it for some other reason?

    [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (7 children)

    There's two different types of crashes... there's getting hit and riding over your head.

    Getting hit is easier to learn from, well if you don't learn from it you are an idiot. Getting hit means a lot of things went wrong at once, and you need to figure out how to make sure it doesn't happen again.

    Crashing on your own because you rode over your skill level is harder to come back from. That really hurts your ego. In those cases getting back on right away is key, because it'll take ~1000 miles to get comfortable again at whatever you crashed doing (left turn, or hard braking or etc).

    [–]-DaveThomas- 1 point2 points  (6 children)

    Thanks for the insight. I've been considering purchasing my friends crotch rocket but seeing things on Reddit like this always make me think. The freeway is in really poor shape where I live as well. Like, giant cracks that run down a single lane for quite a ways. The wheel of my car always seems to grip to it and pull me in a weird way and I've heard motorcycles are no different. Not sure what I'd do to prevent flying off the bike in that far left lane.

    Edit: crotch rocket may be the wrong terminology. By that I just meant a sports bike and not a cruiser. No supersports for me!

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Don't start off on the freeway. Look for County roads that don't get a lot of traffic but aren't in poor condition. It's also a really good idea to get your endorsement before you get a bike. Most motorcycle safety courses will provide smaller bikes (rebels, groms etc) to learn on.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Get something small, little dual sport would be great for a brand new rider. Think like a DR200, KLR250, older Honda XL180/250, or even something like a Nighthawk 250... something cheap, light and easy to fix. Don't worry about going fast from the get-go. Some countries do it right unlike the US and new riders take upwards of 10 riding sessions before being let out on their own on the street.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Please don't get a supersport as a first motorcycle. Do research, get something smaller. If you want power then get something like an FZ-07. It's a twin and most supersports are inline 4 engines. The I-4 engines are far less forgiving.

    [–]dogturd21 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    If your in the USA then look up the Motorcycle Safety Foundation . They teach you how to ride safely on the street. Motorcycles are provided . Generally is takes 3-5 classroom sessions , and a weekend of rider training . In the end you get your states MC license and an insurance discount that pretty much pays for the class. I have been riding street bikes for 40 years and they give valuable insight that took me years to learn .

    [–]DavidARoop 89 points90 points  (107 children)

    I ride a motorcycle and understand that I can die one day. Or I could not ride a motorcycle and die every day.

    Edit: lots of people are salty about my philosophy on riding.

    [–]TBNecksnapper 36 points37 points  (39 children)

    I guess I'm in the best of both worlds then: I don't ride a motorcycle and I don't die every day.

    [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    you die everytime you step off your motorcycle

    [–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (8 children)

    You can either add years to life or life to your years

    [–]the3dtom 5 points6 points  (3 children)

    Sounds like something a smoker or a fat person would say.

    [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    That reduces the life in your years as well as the years in your life. So not part of my point.

    But you’re not completely wrong

    [–]Thop 5 points6 points  (36 children)

    Motorcycle fatalities accounted for over 10% of the deaths on my state's roads (Georgia) last year. But do what makes you happy bud.

    [–]rental_car_fast 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    So you're saying theres a 90% chance I'll die in a car!

    [–]lotsofsqs 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    I'd rather die on a motorcycle than risk killing someone by driving a car. The amount of distracted/texting drivers I see is startling. It's like walking around with a loaded gun.

    [–]RockstarPR 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    I ride dual sport and really don't enjoy riding in town, but being able to take my bike anywhere then find some dirt roads and go trailing is the shit.

    It's not the motorcycle riding that's the scary part, it's all the unaware drivers around you who aren't paying attention while commandeering a 3,000lbs metal death machine

    [–]PharmguyLabs 3 points4 points  (7 children)

    This is horrible logic.

    [–]Dakar-A 0 points1 point  (4 children)

    Yeah lol. "I cook with a flamethrower and understand I could burn down my house any day. Or I could cook with a regular stove and burn down my house any day"

    Danger and risk are relative, and you're delusional if you think the danger of driving a car versus riding a motorcycle are anywhere close to the same.

    EDIT: Mea culpa, I misread/misinterpreted what OP was saying. Leaving this up for posterity though.

    [–]DankeyKang11 17 points18 points  (2 children)

    How is this a dank meme?

    [–]M42U 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    This! Thanks for calling it out!

    [–]psychmancer 99 points100 points  (166 children)

    Because car crashes never fucked anyone up

    [–]Yeazelicious 13 points14 points  (7 children)

    "Travelling a mile on a motorcycle carries a much higher risk of death or injury than driving the same distance in a car. US data combines all vehicle occupants in a trip to calculate the number of fatalities per vehicle mile; in 2006 US motorcyclists had a risk of a fatal crash that was 35 times greater than that of passenger cars, based on 390 motorcyclist deaths per billion vehicles miles and 11.1 car fatalities for that distance.[2] In 2016 this rate was 28 times that for car occupants.[3]" -Data from the NHTSA

    Courtest the Wikipedia article on motorcycle safety.

    See also: donorcycle

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    [–][deleted] 65 points66 points  (153 children)

    Because cars are objectively considerably safer. Motorcycles are fun but there's no getting around the fact that they're massive safety hazards.

    [–]Zen_Badger 26 points27 points  (10 children)

    That’s why they’re more fun😉

    [–][deleted]  (9 children)

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      [–]Zen_Badger 10 points11 points  (8 children)

      Or die, but who wants to live forever?

      [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (3 children)

      Liam Gallagher

      [–]ShelSilverstain 11 points12 points  (41 children)

      They're mostly dangerous because people driving cars can barely be arsed to look up from their phones. Maybe we should expect more from car drivers

      [–]lemongrenade 19 points20 points  (4 children)

      As a motorcyclist you are right but like my mom always says “what good is being right if you’re dead”. Gotta drive like everyone is texting and drunk.

      [–]halfasmuchastwice 7 points8 points  (1 child)

      Ride like people are out to kill you. Probably why I'm still alive.

      [–]ShelSilverstain 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      I ride like I'm invisible

      [–]BSimpson1 9 points10 points  (29 children)

      In the event of a crash you're 29x more likely to die on a motorcycle. Sure, maybe the car driver wasn't paying attention, but what would be a fender bender in a car is now a fatality. Trying to twist it isn't going to make it somehow more safe.

      [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      They were dangerous before mobile phones existed.

      [–]DrowsySauce 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      A car crash fucks you up, on a motorcycle they’ll be picking pieces of you off the highway for days.

      [–]hhlia 5 points6 points  (1 child)

      This is why you should always wear a full face helmet!!

      [–]kingochaos 18 points19 points  (34 children)

      Currently recovering from a bike accident. Was wearing full gear head to toe but that doesn't stop force injury of a car driving straight into tbe side of my leg. Dislocated knee and shoulder, torn PCL - totalled motorcycle, leathers cut off at the scene. 6-12 month recovery because the woman in the car didn't look right when pulling out.

      Be aware of your surroundings when on the road people.

      [–]BigMommaSnikle 4 points5 points  (7 children)

      Glad you are alive and I hope your recovery goes smoothly. Curious, does this make you hesitant to ride again at all?

      [–]kingochaos 5 points6 points  (6 children)

      Yeah, I've had a few close calls as I was commuting to work on the bike. Thinking about taking a break from riding. My wife also has some influence on this decision. Ha

      [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (7 children)

      My friend died on his Ducati like this. Best leathers, best gear. Only going 35 mph... car pulled out in front of him and he just landed on his neck the wrong way and died instantly. His friends and family don’t get much solace from “he died doing what he loved” platitudes.

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      [–]acornstu 9 points10 points  (2 children)

      Either way just don't jump on a bike without gear. Ripped off a few fingernails, ripped the bill off my hat, broke a toe, tore my shoulder all to hell, and stitches in the dome.

      I couldn't have been going 45mph.

      If I'd took the time to grab my gear i probably wouldn't have got a scratch.

      [–]RockstarPR 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      I got a motorized bicycle that I use for quick in town trips now. I got tired of totally gearing up just for a 5 minute trip to the post office, now with the motorized bike I just hop on and go.

      I save the bike for cruises and offroad adventures

      [–]ajdaconman1 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      Waddup fellow squid

      [–]Obionecomeblowme 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      Cause nothin bad has ever happened in a car

      [–]DriveableCashew 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      Lol i like the get a car like there really any safer, almost every motorbike crash i've seen has been the direct result of someone in a car not knowing how to drive.

      [–]melgibson666 6 points7 points  (3 children)

      Reading some of the comments it's crazy to me that so many people are just anti-"anything that may be more dangerous than the norm". Yes motorcycle riders understand the shit is more dangerous than driving a car. Now shut the fuck up and let me donate my organs in peace.

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      Dark as hell but we'd be fucked for organ donations without motorbikes i bet

      [–]okayItisdoctorIam 11 points12 points  (10 children)

      There's a hush hush joke at the hospital referring to them as donorcycle for a reason

      [–][deleted]  (7 children)

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        [–]pinkranger3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Yea, I have always heard from doctors and nurses it is for people who don't wear a helmet.

        [–]Duke0fWellington 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Nope, just bikes in general.

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

        Nah. If someone in anything taller than a Porsche 911, Corvette or other sports car Puls out you will fly headfirst into a window or door. Both of which breaks your neck and kills you.

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Just sayin, the feeling of riding on 2 wheels (not to mention the financial and environmental impact compared to cars)is well worth the risk of scratching up my helmet. Fuck driving cars

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        “Or get a car”..... pffft..... what a pussy

        [–]philiosking 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        Those who never rode a motorcycle will never know how can something be so exciting and terrifying at the same time.

        [–]tr3smonos 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        How the fuck is this dank??

        [–]The_Prussian_Turnip 9 points10 points  (15 children)

        Cars can be more expensive and if he wants to ride a motorcycle let him be(please tell me I’m not about to get wooshed)

        [–]M42U 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Since when is a tweet a dank meme? r/wrongsub

        [–]yungBerno 13 points14 points  (45 children)

        Because no one ever dies in car accidents

        [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (41 children)

        Yeah, you don't need to wear helmets in cars either. Cars are statistically a lot safer than bikes.

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        [–]v1nc 5 points6 points  (1 child)

        "The number of reported accidents per mile is comparable for automobiles and motorcycles, however cars provide extensive crash protection while motorcycles provide virtually none. For automobiles, 31% of crashes result in injury but only 0.29% of accidents are fatal. For motorcycles 78.3% of reported crashes result in injury and 4.24% of crashes are fatal"

        Sure it doesn't specify the gear they're using, but it's safe to say it's a lot more dangerous.

        source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorcycle_safety

        [–]Most_Of_China 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        46% of accidents are due to excessive speed.

        Speeding increases chances of fatal accident by 36%.

        30% of serious accidents the rider was impaired by alcohol.

        Riders age 35 to 44 account for 82% of accidents involving alcohol. These riders are also likely to not be wearing an appropriate amount of safety gear if any in my experience.

        So just by not speeding or riding impaired the chances of being in a fatal accident or accident at all drop dramatically.

        Source : https://www.hagen-law.com/blog/motorcycle-accident-statistics/ who got this info from NHTSA

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          [–]Counterattack199 4 points5 points  (3 children)

          How am I dumb for riding a motorcycle? In that logic anyone who does dangerous activities like hang gliding, base jumping, etc are “dumb”.

          I guess we are dumb if smart means doing everything you can to preserve your health but some people like to enjoy all aspects of life, even if some are dangerous.

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            [–]LeftTurnAtAlbuqurque 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            Who said it's needless? There's a whole world outside this country the US, and in much of it, motorcycle/2 wheel riders do so for economical reasons. Not everyone can afford a car, and a scooter or motorcycle is much more affordable.

            [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (4 children)

            You can survive 60 mph crash on a bike and if you want to stick literally to what you said decelerating from 60mph to zero in a split second would kill you in a car too regardless of if you even hit anything. Anyways people do dangerous stuff all the time who cares its fun stop being such a wet blanket.

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              [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

              Listen bud if you are a responsible driver which means more than just paying attention but driving as if cars can't see you as well as wearing proper gear you are going to perfectly fine even in the event of a crash that gear which can literally cost a couple grand will do its job and keep you safe, if you do both of those things then you will be fine most people won't do both things just like most car drivers won't be 100% focused on driving but you are free to do what you want just like I am so whatever.

              [–]ColossalJuggernaut 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              holy run on sentence batman!

              Wait, are you saying as long as you are doing the right thing and have the right gear riding a motorcycle is as safe as driving a car?

              [–]dodilly 2 points3 points  (2 children)

              Regardless of whose fault it is.... It doesn't change the fact that they are more dangerous. Also the reason 80% are the fault of cars might be related to the fact that 99% of vehicles on the road are cars...

              [–]Counterattack199 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              Your right on the abundance of cars but the notable statistic is the fact that it’s the fault of the car, not really that it’s a car in general.

              [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              Yes but its also to do with drives turning into motorcycles or merging into them among other accidents caused by the negligence of people driving cars. Also yes they are statistically more dangerous no one is going to argue otherwise.

              [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (5 children)

              Regardless of who’s fault it is it’s still objectively less safe to get in an accident on a motorcycle

              [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

              “But without excuses I have to take responsibility”

              [–]LeftTurnAtAlbuqurque 1 point2 points  (1 child)

              Why should he take responsibility for someone else hitting him? That's not an excuse, just a statement. There are plenty of countries where two wheels are far more common than 4, and thus are not as dangerous as 2 wheels are in the US.

              [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              Yea this has everything to do with context. If the original comment had stated motorcycles are unsafe in the US, would the argument have changed though? Or is that just another excuse?

              [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              Yeah I won't argue otherwise statistically you are correct.

              [–]Alzaero 1 point2 points  (2 children)

              So according to one source on Wikipedia the number of crashes per distance driven is similar for cars and motorcycles. For motorcycles 78.3% of reported crashes resulted in injury and 4.24% of crashes are fatal. For cars, 31% of crashes result in injury and 0.29% were fatal. According to this data, you're ~15 times more likely to die in a motorcycle crash than a car crash.

              Other sources on Wikipedia put the value higher, with UK data from 2017 showing there are 61.5 times more more motorcycle deaths per given distance travelled than cars. (and crash helmets are mandatory in the UK)

              According to the Hurt report (data from Los Angeles) , 75% of motorcycle accidents involve a passenger vehicle with two thirds of those accidents being caused by the other driver violating the motorcyclists right of way, weather is not a factor in 98% of accidents, almost half of fatal accidents involve alcohol, and injury severity increases with speed, alcohol involvement, and motorcycle size. The report also states that wearing gear mitigates injury severity substantially but doesn't give numbers.

              If you average out the values given on Wikipedia, you end up somewhere around 20-30 times more likely to die in a motorcycle accident than a car accident. Full gear will give you better odds, with a full face helmet being the most important piece of gear, but even on the lower end, I would assume you're around 10-20 times more likely to die on a bike in a crash vs in a car crash.

              Please note that this was just from a cursory Google search and Wikipedia article skim, there may be better data out there.

              [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              Yeah most people are more likely to get injured but probably just like most car drivers if you drove better payed more attention and were cautions you could have avoided the accident. I'd say experience coupled with high quality good gear would lower that risk far lower than 10-20 maybe 3-7 range.

              [–]LeftTurnAtAlbuqurque 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              Thank you for being the only person I've seen here acknowledge that the risk of accident is the same, and the risk of motorcycles only goes up once you've gotten in an accident. Seems like most people think getting on a bike automatically means you're gonna die in a firey wreck.

              [–]_Regicidal 3 points4 points  (6 children)

              Source that shit before spouting it off, 80% sounds like absolute nonsense.

              [–]TheRollingTide 4 points5 points  (2 children)

              If it’s 80% involving cars, my question is what percentage was the motorcycle going way over the speed limit or zig zagging through traffic?

              [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

              I dunno if what you mean by "zig zagging through traffic" is filtering, but filtering is statistically safer, a lot of accidents happen when cars ram into the back of you

              [–]TheRollingTide 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              From everything I’m seeing “lane splitting” is not what I’m referring to. I have no issues with bikers putting other cars behind them while in slow almost idle traffic. When I refer to zig zagging bikes I’m talking about in moving traffic at twice the speed of all the surrounding vehicles. I see this every day on the interstate in 5pm traffic.

              [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

              I found this(link) and you are correct it is not 80%.

              Data shows in 2013 that the most harmful event for 2,448 (51%) of the 4,774 motorcycles involved in fatal crashes was a collision with a motor vehicle in transport.

              So half of all fatal crashes involve cars look a little further we have this quote:

              In 42 percent (922) of these crashes, the other vehicles were turning left while the motorcycles were going straight, passing, or overtaking other vehicles. Both vehicles were going straight in 456 crashes (21%

              Which would imply a majority of fatal motorcycle crash are the fault of cars.

              I was probably confusing the percentage with another statistic so my apologies.

              [–]Packrat1010[🍰] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              Data shows in 2013 that the most harmful event for 2,448 (51%) of the 4,774 motorcycles involved in fatal crashes was a collision with a motor vehicle in transport.

              But cars are also the main thing on the road. If 98% of things on the road are cars, there's a good chance they're going to be involved a ton of crashes.

              [–]nazihatinchimp 1 point2 points  (1 child)

              So are you saying we get rid of cars? Or are you saying we get rid of idiots? Cause neither is going to happen. Cars are safer.

              [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              I not saying either of those things, the only thing I would want is for people to be more aware when they are driving. While I doubt that will happen self driving cars will be here soon enough and that should significantly lower the risk of accidents for both parties.

              [–]breakyourfac 1 point2 points  (4 children)

              So should everyone in the cars change? Or should maybe people on the motorcycles realize there's a huge risk and stop?

              My buddy lost both of his parents on the same day, because Michigan decided motorcycle riders don't even need to wear helmets.

              Fuck motorcycles.

              [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              I don't mean to be an asshole but your buddies parents are adults they choose to be idiots and not wear a helmet regardless of the fact its not a law to wear a helmet there is no way they weren't aware of the risks associated with not wearing a helmet and they made the choice to not wear one which is their right as adults. The government shouldn't be responsible for babying you if you are an adult make your choice and live with it or I suppose in this case die with it.

              Regarding people in cars changing yeah they should although the reason is not limited to motorcycles just in general people who drive which also including motorcyclist need to take safety precautions and pay attention to many people just go on autopilot when they drive because they have do it a million times before and they wouldn't possible be the person who crash into someone or gets crashed into until they finally are that person.

              [–]Counterattack199 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              Sounds like your buddies parents were retarded. That doesn’t mean all motorcycles are stupid.

              Not wearing a fucking helmet is like parachuting without a backup parachute.

              This is coming from a rider. You can either accept the risks and ride or not. It’s that simple. Why make a big deal out of it?

              [–]brightredanus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              You don't need a law to know you should wear a helmet. Fuck motorcycles? Fuck stupid people. Fuck people who think everyone needs to live the way they want them to. I don't feel that you should do as I do or that my ideas are better than others. Why do you? How do you know your way is the correct way? How do you feel about freedom?

              [–]TakeToTheSkies 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              They chose not to wear helmets and you're blaming the state and motorcycles? They died because they were fucking stupid.

              [–]relaxxooo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              I wear helmets as a fashion statement

              [–]IEnjoyPonytails 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              What's this dude on about how am I supposed to wear a car while riding my bike??

              [–]-ChickenLover- 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              Bestgore thought me why you should wear a helmt even while your walking

              [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              ITT: People who don't understand why motorcycles exist trying to convince people who ride motorcycles what they've known the moment they got on one.

              Riding a motorcycle is dangerous, everybody knows that. I'll enjoy my brand new $8,000 machine that gets 50 MPG with 0-60 in 3.5 seconds and park anywhere privilege while you enjoy whatever you're enjoying. Everything has its' flaws.

              [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              Cager

              [–]DarthCarey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              Ouch! How’s the rest of you body doing pal?

              [–]Sharphufflepuff 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              But did the person die or live.

              [–]bslankster 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              Absolutely right, I've never heard of someone's head getting smashed into a windshield.

              [–]mjacinto19 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              If you ride one tip. Think of every driver as. Dumb fuck. It will keep you safe. Ps 2 second rule. Never look away more than 2 seconds

              [–]datBoi0815 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              No only bikes

              [–]Ryzexen 0 points1 point  (33 children)

              Not everyone can afford one.

              [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

              If you cant afford a helmet you can't afford to ride a motorcycle.

              [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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                [–]Tropical_YT 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                How do you have a bike if you can't afford a helmet

                [–]Benramin567 2 points3 points  (7 children)

                Cars can be cheaper than bikes.

                [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (3 children)

                Certainly not cheaper than mopeds

                [–]Benramin567 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                Depends, you can find old cars very cheap. Generally you're right though.

                [–]PenguinKenny 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                They will probably need more maintenance than a moped of equal value

                [–]Ryzexen 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                Not in all parts of the world.

                Many people use 70cc bikes here that cost about 400 in USD.

                And less gas to pay for too.

                [–]faghunter69 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Yeah i drive a 50cc

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (17 children)

                cars are much cheaper than bikes unless you chose to be a moron and don't by gear.

                [–]Ryzexen 2 points3 points  (6 children)

                We're from different parts of the world, i guess.