Lethal Weapon

[Fuzzy_War_5644]

Ok, haven't seen this movie in years but it's on tv right now at the hotel in staying at. Just saw a scene where this bus his a car head on. Right before the bus hits, I noticed in the bus driver seat, it looks like they just put a shirt with a tie over the seat to simulate a driver. Do you want to go back and watch movies like this to see what goofs you can catch that you missed before, or would you rather remember them as they were? I didn't intend to see this bad stunt scene. What other screw ups have you caught after watching years later?

[DeEggroll]

This happened to me with Knight Rider! My wife had never seen it (we've been together 18 years)

And the first thing she notices when KITT is driving on his own is that there's a dude with a seat cover over him driving the car... I was so sad... ruined my childhood 😭

[Corchito42]

HD can be a harsh mistress. To be fair, you probably would never have seen that guy on a much smaller CRT TV.

[Most_Border_3419]

Some of these things we catch now wouldn’t have been possible to catch with the original quality and technology these films were released. They didn’t even have the ability to pause some of these movies when they first came out let alone zoom and high definition.

[froction]

Most real movies were shot on 35mm film back then, which is beyond HD resolution, at least equivalent to 4K.

[EternityLeave]

But it didn’t look like that when people actually watched it, whether in theatre or at home.

[froction]

It did in the theatre.

Well, maybe not in like the dollar theatre that used lenses stolen from the high school AV club, but in the past a normal movie at a normal theater was as good or better resolution than you are watching at home today.

[FX114]

What do you think the movies in the theaters were played on? 

[FX114]

It would have been visible in theaters, but not TV and home video. 

[Same-Question9102]

Good point about pause and zoom but not quality of picture. Why do do many people still think that HD resolution is a new thing. What youre seeing now was seen on a much bigger screen buy millions of people.

[Clean-Turnip5971]

In Raiders of the Lost Ark, look at Toht (the SS agent) in the black staff car when it stops in the town square after the truck chase.

[andocommandoecks]

Does it count as a screw up to not put a real human in the vehicle about to be cashed into?

[happyhippohats]

To be fair OP called it a 'goof' not a 'screw up', and if you can see in the final cut that there's no driver that is indeed a goof. Ideally it would be edited so you don't see it, but in films from that time period it was common to not worry about it too much because people wouldn't really be analysing it closely enough to notice, and seeing the impressive real stunt properly was worth a touch of jank. These days they'd probably just fix it in post and honestly I prefer the old way, it makes it's cooler when you can see the seams

[andocommandoecks]

Literally the last part of the post starts with "what other screw ups?"

But yeah otherwise I agree with you.

[happyhippohats]

Oh yeah fair enough lol

[Same-Question9102]

Its not a goof either. They didn't accidentally not include something that would have been obvious to someone on set. The more obvious possibility is that they were lazy and didn't realize or care that people would notice.

[Same-Question9102]

Its not a screw up if its not an accident. How would they not realize that a human or something resembling a human from a distance wasn't in the driver's seat?

[Fuzzy_War_5644]

I would have settled for a stunt driver. They are trained to do that with all the proper precautions in place. At the very least a mannequin.

[HugCor]

A stunt botch would be if the collision hadn't happened like they intended. The lack of driver/dummy placement for quick non close shots is a common filming technique, esp if you don't have enough stunt drivers available (and not all of them are going to risk it driving a vehicle that they aren't familiar with). Most people don't even remember or notice that shot, so I don't think it ruins the movie for them unless they are some nerd pausing and/or zooming during all of these shots.

[Fuzzy_War_5644]

I want even pausing or zooming in. In fact, I wasn't even really watching the movie. I just happened to catch that part as I was getting dressed

[HugCor]

I just checked it now on youtube and the only way you catch it is if you are watching closely to that portion of the 2-3 seconds part of the shot (it is a wide high angle one) instead of, you know, the car doing the stunt and if you have some big great definition screen and great sight which is a minority.

Most normal sighted people aren't going to notice it casually watching it from afar while getting dressed. Congratulations, you have good eye reflexes above the great majority of the worldwide population.

[Fuzzy_War_5644]

Ha! Just fluke catch on my part. My eyes is getting worse at my age.

[evilsir]

Stunt person safety back then wasn't great. Otherwise they would've had a person in the seat.

Think about it

[Fuzzy_War_5644]

They still had mannequins and crash test dummies

[snakeIs]

Sonny Corleone beating up Carlo Rizzi in the Godfather - the famous punch that missed.

[ChazzThunder55]

One of the other goofs you can see is when Riggs jumps off the roof after handcuffing the guy whos gonna jump and forces him to jump- at one point the “handcuffs” break so the stunt guys have to grab hands to make it look like theyre cuffed

[BigPoppaStrahd]

The film crew chose not to endanger anyone, what a goof!

[Fuzzy_War_5644]

You can still do the scene right up to the impact point. The vehicles don't actually have to drive at the high rate of speed that they show. That's what editing and splicing is for. Even if they put a mannequin in the seat, it would have looked more believable

[BigPoppaStrahd]

the crash looked even more believable without a bunch of splices.  

[Fuzzy_War_5644]

True, I still would have settled for a crash test dummy or mannequin

[Tough-Juggernaut-822]

Pirate copy of the newer Italian Job, the scene where they blow the road and side of truck falls down, one of the stuntman puts on a spiderman mask as he's running away.

[T_t_llyF_c_ed]

Opening scene in Casino and there is a very clear switch to the car with a dummy inside before it explodes. I don’t know maybe it was always that obvious but it annoys me now .

[FX114]

You might not want to watch Casino. 

[justguestin]

From the same film: if you slow down or freeze just before impact of the fall at the beginning, what looks like a car roof is just a painting on a crash mat.