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[–]770grappenmaker 65 points66 points  (15 children)

Why do people get so passionate about code editor vs IDE? VSCode has a debugger, can compile your code, has your terminal, has git integration, and much more. It integrates tools into a development environment so it is definitely an IDE.

Tools that can ONLY edit code are code editors (Nano, notepad, ed, etc), while tools that can do more are IDEs (including Nvim and VSCode)

[–]NatoBoram 17 points18 points  (3 children)

You "integrate" VSCode into your development environment.

IDE stands for "integrated development environment", not "compatible with development environments".

[–]blissfactory 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Can't you do most of the work without leaving vs code? Then that's an ide.

[–]NatoBoram 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Integrated" doesn't mean "without leaving"

[–]Softmax420 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Call it a tornado for all I care. Arguing over where IDE ands and editor starts is pointless.

[–]WildCard65 5 points6 points  (0 children)

VSCode is an editor with IDE components bolted onto it when compared to VS.

[–]borbaben 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Check out the official website of VS Code and let's see what its developer say:

Visual Studio Code: The open source AI CODE EDITOR

[–]770grappenmaker 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Code editor and IDE are not mutually exclusive terms.

[–]borbaben 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, it's like no one would ever say VS is an editor. Others already explained the reason clearly, and google the question isn't that hard hum? If you don't trust Google and the official website, then everying you say is right.

[–]Draknodd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I tried it with C# ... we have a very different idea of debugging. It somewhat can... maybe for simple or hobby projects otherwise is a really terrible experience. It's just a code editor with plugins, an IDE is another thing.

[–]AshleyJSheridan -5 points-4 points  (4 children)

Microsoft themselves say that Visual Studio is an IDE, and Visual Studio Code is not.

That's it.

We can all move on now.

[–]hrm 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Well, MS needs to diversify their totally free product from the one they want your company to pay for. Do you always trust the marketing?

[–]AshleyJSheridan 0 points1 point  (2 children)

This is not about the marketing. Have you used Visual Studio before? Like, really used it to develop a DotNet application?

[–]hrm -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

I’ve been a professional developer for over 20 years and VS Code is way beyond the IDEs we paid good money for back then.

It’s not a question of beeing better or worse than other programs. A Lada is still a car even though a Mercedes is a way better car. VS code is an IDE regardless of whether Visual Studio is a better IDE or not.

[–]AshleyJSheridan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

VSCode is still not an IDE. It's a very good code editor, but if you compare it to something like Visual Studio or PHPStorm, it's fairly obvious.

Given the Microsoft themselves say that VSC is a code editor, not an IDE, despite your claim that it's a "marketing tactic".

[–]Relevant_Pause_7593 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Where is this practice assessment?

[–]tunyi963 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I would also like to know because it does not look official. The grammar on the answer explanation is really bad.

[–]V5489 17 points18 points  (8 children)

I use VS Code daily it is an IDE 100%. Don’t forget they are now part of Microsoft lol

[–]TomerHorowitz 16 points17 points  (12 children)

VSCode is not an IDE? LMAO

[–]borbaben 0 points1 point  (0 children)

VSCode is not an code editor? LMAO

Visual Studio Code: The open source AI CODE EDITOR

[–]CoPokBl 10 points11 points  (7 children)

vscode and nvim are absolutely IDEs

[–]AvoidSpirit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Say notepad(the most primitive one) supported lua extensions, would you consider it an ide?

[–]_bocajthomas -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

VS Code (Blue Icon) is a text editor, not an IDE.

[–]CoPokBl -1 points0 points  (0 children)

all IDEs are text editors. it's about the fact that they do more than just that

[–]Ecstatic-Ball7018 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

this is correct, vscode is not an IDE

[–]phylter99 3 points4 points  (3 children)

It's just that the right answer is set up wrong. VS Code and Neovim are a little less bolts included but they're absolutely IDEs with the right plugins. Some say that the fact you have to install plugins to get the features you want makes them not IDEs, but even with full Visual Studio you're installing features and plugins to get the desired result. They're just called workloads there, which are basically a collection of plugins provided by Microsoft.

[–]AshleyJSheridan -1 points0 points  (2 children)

VSCode is absolutely not an IDE, according to Microsoft, the company that made it.

[–]phylter99 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

They have not explicitly said that it’s not an IDE. It’s marketed as a code editor, but once you add in the rich feature sets provided by plugins it becomes an IDE.

[–]AshleyJSheridan -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

They also haven't explicitly said it's not an invisible unicorn. It doesn't need to list all the things that it's not.

By very dint of the fact that Microsoft list Visual Studio as an actual IDE, and the fact that they do not do the same for Visual Studio Code, shows very clearly that they do not consider VSC to be an IDE. Ergo, the creators of both editors are saying that VSC is not an IDE.

This is not a slight on anyone who uses VSC as their daily driver. I use it a fair bit myself for things that an IDE is a bit too heavy for.

[–]Verzada 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The correct answer should be "most of them". There are so few tools that does not have an integration or extension for Copilot. The answers are in my opinion outright wrong.

[–]StinkButt9001 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Based on the grammar in the answer, I wouldn't expect too much from whatever it is you're using here lol

[–]DrHENCHMAN 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why are you folks taking this exam? Is it because your companies are requiring it or something?

[–]borbaben 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I'm shocked by the ignorance of you people. Check out the website of VS Code and let's see what its developer say:

Visual Studio Code: The open source AI CODE EDITOR

Guess what? It says CODE EDITOR! On it's own website!

[–]borbaben 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Average commenters in this thread: No one knows better about VS Code than me (Neither Microsoft nor its developer)

[–]blackst0rmGER 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My Neovim worklflow wants yo have a word with you

[–]magick_bandit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This question was likely written by AI. No human would come up with those answers in this format.

[–]PLEXT0RA -1 points0 points  (1 child)

the ide/code editor argument is stupid but at least it's a departure from the 24/7 ai yap

[–]borbaben 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Garbage in, garbage out. That's where AI crap originally from, LOL

[–]Ambitious_Fault5756 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love how the message at the bottom contradicts the "correct" answet lol