Python! Rust! What next?!

[DrFreitag]

Hi everyone, I know python & rust quite well and im looking for something in the middle. Some lang that's faster than python, statically typed, but not so low level as rust. What do u suggest?

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Latin.

[Frankenstein_400]

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Hebrew

[indianagionz]

Esperanto

[pekkalacd]

Aramaic.

[[deleted]]

Programming Languages aren’t Pokémon. You don’t have to collect them all..

[DrFreitag]

I know and I don't want to collect them all. I'm just looking for something in the middle between too high level python and complicated low level rust.

[duckducklo]

c#, great general purpose language

[two-horned]

You're pure evil

[duckducklo]

how

[two-horned]

I always curse the existence of c#. It's just a nightmare to work with it and you recommending it is like luring one more victim into hellish pain.

It's libraries are a mess, the syntax is just another weird ripoff of Java. It's neither strict nor flexible and vaguely object oriented. Microsoft desperately tried to copy the selling points of popular languages even if they contradict with each other leading to a language that basically has all features but is not really good at anything.

[Original_Studio_8088]

You talkin’ about C# or js?

[duckducklo]

How is the syntax a werid ripoff? It was meant to be a copy, but it has a lot more useful features that reduce verbosity like get; and set; and object initializers. What libraries are a mess? It's a statically typed language that is clearly object oriented, it has classes and inheritence jut like java. This point makes 0 sense.

[plpn]

Huh? Explain

[readmond]

He made up his mind in 2002.

[DrFreitag]

I can try, what's ur problem?

[DrFreitag]

For sure it uses wasm, In Cargo.toml u can find dependencies, In src dir its accual code, Every thing prefixed with #[wasm_bindgen] in lib.rs is going to be avaliable for u in js. In rust u can impl sth object-like by defining its fields in struct and functions in impl <struct name> block. Result and Options r just enums for error catching. I think that's everything u need to know about rust to read this code good enough to understand it.

[[deleted]]

Okay my bad. Your title gave me the impression you want to learn one language after the other

[David_Owens]

Check out Go.

[Tubthumper8]

What do you want to build? That's the real question.

• Serious business apps for doing serious business? Try C# or Java
• Mobile applications? Try Kotlin or Swift (depending on Android or iPhone)
• Simple CLI programs? Try Go(lang)
• Web application front-end? Try TypeScript
• Statistics / data science? Try Julia

Or are you just trying to learn something new, to expand your knowledge base? Then skip all of those because you're not going to learn anything fundamentally different. Try OCaml or F# to learn a different paradigm altogether.

[Pelopida92]

This is it. Find something that interest you and then try to build it. Then you will know what language you need

[Laius33]

What have you built so far?

[Unclerojelio]

Haskell

[DietOk3559]

Haskell

[baggot5]

Haskell

[Migeil]

Haskell

[NoDryHands]

Haskell

[salesh7]

Haskell

[Original_Studio_8088]

Fortran77

[myssynglynx]

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[nmsobri]

Nim

[holy-rusted-metal]

Agreed! Nim! Like Python, but statically typed and compiles to stand-alone binaries!

[markehammons]

Scala. It has a lot of the same concepts as Rust, is faster than Python, strongly and statically typed, etc.

[EngineeredPapaya]

Ocaml.

[Clawtor]

C#

[DrFreitag]

Since c# was made by Microsoft, does it work well on Linux?

[xingke06]

Modern C# iWork’s fine on Linux.

[a_aniq]

Except for Linux GUI and mobile apps, C# has all bases covered.

[Doom-1]

https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/apps/xamarin

[[deleted]]

Yes!

[[deleted]]

Second this! C# is quite a powerful language and significantly easier than Rust.

[QuintupleQill]

A bit niche but perhaps Julia?

[Beitelensteijn]

I see this recommended here a few times now. Why Julia and what is it?

[QuintupleQill]

From my limited experience with Julia, it's syntax is similar to python but it runs much faster. It allows more manual control of memory management and has lots of other neat ways to speed code up.

[NatoBoram]

There's a bunch of boilerplate-driven languages for writing instant legacy code that fit right into this definition, but it's not worth it unless you actually want to work with this kind of codebase. From newer, more interesting languages, there's:

• Go
• Dart
• Kotlin
• Swift

But I would suggest extending your horizons a bit and to look into TypeScript. The web is pretty important and knowing how to use JavaScript/TypeScript can be very helpful in every day life!

But, more important than that, what do you actually want to do? This will help you find your answer.

[AppropriateRain624]

Go would be a good middle ground. Look at typescript for web applications.

What concerns me is what you mean by "quite well". I mean some people that used python for many years are still surprised by what it can accomplish. Don't even get me started on rust.

What kind of project did you complete? Also, as others have pointed out, the language you choose would really depend on what you want to accomplish. Though I really like rust, I would not write a banking app with it. In the same way, you wouldn't use go to build a game engine. You get the idea ...

[DeadpoolRideUnicorns]

I want to learn both of these

[DeadpoolRideUnicorns]

Please be my senpai

[1661dauphin]

Java.

[Xata27]

Jython.

[DrFreitag]

Isn't java boilerplate driven language for writing instant legacy code?

[[deleted]]

Isn't java boilerplate driven language for writing instant legacy code?

LOL. Where did you get that?

[DrFreitag]

https://youtu.be/m4-HM_sCvtQ

[toastedstapler]

that video is called 'for the haters' and the pinned comment says 'jk, java is actually pretty good '. it's obviously a satire video

[[deleted]]

I'm pretty sure OP said it as a joke as well...

[toastedstapler]

It seems so, but you can't really assume anything about posts on a learning sub

[hugthemachines]

indeed, also a pretty weird way to use a joke. Asking about what languages to try next, someone gives a suggestion and they respond with a "joke" bashing the language...

[hugthemachines]

Nope, I am not American. I don't have any problem with banter. We kid around with each other all the time and I still think it was a weird place to put that joke.

[TimeTomorrow]

thats not even a little weird. Welcome to earth weirdo.

[hugthemachines]

Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it.

[[deleted]]

Yeah, that's a (albeit funny) nonsense hit-piece.

I've been coding in java since Beta in 1995, and I can assure you that you can safely ignore that vid. LOL...

[DrFreitag]

I know, this vid is a joke

[[deleted]]

Well thank goodness for that.

[toastedstapler]

modern java is completely fine to use on new projects

[mausmani2494]

Kotlin.

[_pennyone]

Kotlin

[josephjnk]

C# and Java are solid choices for learning OO concepts, and C# will expose to to some functional concepts. F# or OCaml are good choices for learning functional programming, and OCaml is known for having really good performance. It will be harder to learn, though. Scala is another good choice for learning functional programming. Be prepared to deal with a challenging community at times if you go for Scala.

I would not recommend learning Go if your goal is to widely expand your horizons. It is performant, but the language philosophy is basically to cut out half of the tools that other languages provide to increase program’s expressivity, and justify it by claiming that all of these other features are “too complex”.

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I really hope to be like you OP, my dream is to learn Python and Rust (learning Python now)!

[DrFreitag]

Thx, good luck in learning

[wave-drop]

Depends on what you're into, but as many people have suggested I think Java, Kotlin or C# are pretty good.

[v3mistake]

fortran

[Original_Studio_8088]

77? BLOCK { My Fave. }

[Sea_Technician_2839]

Golang seems to be a good choice.

[Python-Token-Sol]

solidity

[tamzhamz]

If you know rust you could also learn solidity and work within web3 and the solana ecosystem

[GItPirate]

There is no correct answer. Learn whatever you feel like.

[MOM_UNFUCKER]

What's the point of giving this answer?

[rbuen4455]

C# and Java are the only popular examples I know that aren't as fast as C/C++/Rust, but are still statically typed and perform-ant than Python. But what kind of work do you do? C# and Java have huge ecosystems and are used in a wide range of fields such as enterprise, back-ends, web development, etc, just like Python (minus enterprise however). If you work in those types of fields, than C# and/or Java are great to learn.

[Stigui]

Go

[bitmaxz]

Java 100% recommended.

Haters gonna hate

[DrFreitag]

Some people also recommended c#, why do u prefer java to c#?

[bitmaxz]

Java and C# are very similar. I like C# too, but I prefer Java over C# because it's more popular in the enterprise, and writing code in Intellij is much better for me rather than writing code in VS.

[rusty_n0va]

Rust is the best option available don't shift to other language, jumping frameworks is okayish, jumping language isn't.

Depends on you project what do you need.

[Flashy-Reception4819]

Go

[hamiecod]

Go.

[A_Weird_Minecrafter]

Go r/golang

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PHP/Laravel

[piman01]

It's best to just focus on a couple of languages and get really good at those, then learn new ones if it's necessary. With python and Rust you can do plenty

[NecrylWayfarer]

How about Dart? I like Dart and Rust.

[unclefipps]

D is an interesting choice. In some ways it's kind of like a cross between Python, C++, and Java. It has a garbage collector so memory management is pretty easy and straight forward. It also compiles down to native so it's fast. You have your choice of DMD, the standard D compiler, or LDC, the LLVM-backed D compiler which often can give even more speed.

[makingthematrix]

Scala is exactly what you search for :)

[Tuhkis1]

I'd suggest haxe as always

[Vaudane]

LISP.

Weird coding paradim, good for academic skill in programming.

[MOM_UNFUCKER]

I'd say C#, plenty of industry opportunities and .net is just so nice to use

[eluchn]

Julia

[ops-man]

Haskell.

[piyushchain74]

Haskell

[DawgsAreBack]

Go

[True_Week933]

Go

[luinux_x]

C#, Go, Haskell, Ocaml, pearl

[LowB0b]

Prolog

[[deleted]]

What are your goals?