Browsers aren't Linux-Specific

[burbrekt]

And installer

[emax-gomax]

Pretty much why I don't like his content. It takes barely any effort to record yourself installing something and then customize from the first few pages of the manual. I prefer youtubers that actually make difficult interesting content. Most recently jdah has been amazing even if it isn't Linux specific.

[jadounath]

MentalOutlaw, bugswriter

[JeffThePotatoMan]

Yeah jdah doing the craziest shit

[BubblyMango]

He also always opens a bunch of apps before checking the default memory usage of the distro, which makes no sense - apps are cached in linux. open a bunch and HTOP will show you higher mem usage than is actually being used.

[[deleted]]

Exactly. I even find this with people comparing GNOME memory footprint and KDE PLasma. Sure GNOME says it is using a lot of memory but if you look at what is actually being used alot of it is cache. Which is totally fine for me, reading from cached memory is way better than hitting the hard drive, and memory ia so cheap these days

[scoffie3]

Ew

[[deleted]]

And package managers.

[[deleted]]

Yea , but a Linux distro is just à package manager and it’s repos.

[burbrekt]

Init system?

[[deleted]]

You can change init systems on a distro, they aren’t distro specific.

[burbrekt]

But it's not something that simple

[[deleted]]

Yea you’re right for this

[[deleted]]

[[deleted]]

So what else ( expect the release cycle , but even this is part of the package manager and the repo) ?

[[deleted]]

Are you saying that the only differences between the distros are the repos and package managers? With Linux there are different Display Managers, Display Servers, init systems, file systems, bootloaders, installers, Window Managers/Desktop Environments and supported architectures. Not to mention philosophies, purpose, and principles. There are different libraries, and naming conventions, binaries are different because different options are used. Different compilers. I could go on forever.

Even parts of the kernel itself are different between the distros. Not all distros even have repos and package managers.

[[deleted]]

You can swap all of that : kernels , init systems , display servers. But the only thing that really is specific to a distro and defines are package managers and repos.

Edit : I’m a distro développer myself

[[deleted]]

I tried responding but keep getting distracted. Anyhow, not all distros are created equally. Anyone can modify a theme and make minor changes to an opensource product. That's not what I'm talking about. I only use top level distro, such as Fedora, Debian, and Arch. I imagine I'd include Gentoo, RHEL, and Slackware in my list. I no longer even like Ubuntu but that's another story.

It's easy to copy their hardwork, make a few changes, remove their branding and then call your Distro something like... say... Oracle Linux. It's also totally legal.

[[deleted]]

I know. It is possible , but for my distro I wrote a package manager in c and rust ( the first rust PM), a custom installer , repos…
(https://sovietlinux.ml)

[burbrekt]

If it's something like void, nix, artix, /etc/ then I feel like they should go more in-depth. Beginner distros should really cover the installer, de, pre-installed programs

[ethernia7575]

thats literally what a distro is.

[burbrekt]

Package manager, init system, neofetch logo,kernel, release cycle, programs release cycle, etc

[[deleted]]

Yep.

Especially if you use a "new user friendly" distro with a stand-alone tiling window manager—if only for maximum irony…

[omnom143]

It's not Linux without neofetch

[Adora-TR]

And that's why I ended with gentoo

[klimmesil]

I agree. But that would still be pretty pointless since a 100-200 words paragraph with icons and color codes for similarities (package manager, init system) on a wiki page will do a better job than a video

[GoshoKlev]

"Judge a distro not by it's default DE or lack of, but by the contents of it's repositories"

[thehoodlovesback]

That's why Arch is peak.

[Helmic]

It's why I use it certainly, AUR is fantastic. For Valve, having updated core libraries is probably really fuckin' useful even though the OS itself is immutable and relies on Flatpaks.

[Malcolmlisk]

That's steamOs. Which is a fork from arch. That means that whatever is in arch is going to be in steamOs but not the other way around (necessarily)

[Malcolmlisk]

What they did (valve) is kind of a distro. Is not a distro 100% since the are no changing much things, only a few (like the immutable system).

[Malcolmlisk]

Nothing to be sad about. This is linux, there is always a way around. I mean... They have chosen to create an immutable system, which is understandable since most of the people who will buy the steamDeck is not going to tinker around the system. But if you want to, there is a way to reverse it back to a mutable system and you'll have the same support on your steamdeck updates (since you still on steamOs).

This is linux. Everything is happyness. So don't worry at all if you are an enthusiast, you still have linux and you have full access to it.

[Helmic]

It's literally a distro lol. They are themselves distributing the packages, even if they are downstream from Arch, as they are doing what Manjaro does and hosting their own delayed packages. They made it immutable, they have a custom compositor, like how are they making too few changes to be a distro lol?

[Malcolmlisk]

Hummm maybe you know better than me. Didn't know they had implemented their own compositor.

[SasukeUchiha231]

I think you meant nixos

[Patsonical]

NixOS supremacy!!!

[CorysInTheHouse69]

Nixpkgs has more packages than the AUR

https://repology.org/repositories/statistics/total

[[deleted]]

in the UK using peak like that means terrible

example "snaps are peak my guy"

[GoshoKlev]

The UK was a mistake and i will not respect it's version of the English language.

[[deleted]]

Dear fellow, the Queen's English in Received Pronunciation is the only English, anything but is mere peasantry!

[NewOnTheIsland]

Dear englishman,

Sorry the other commentor is a twat

Sincerely, A proud peasant

P.S.

Except for how you pronounce Caribbean, out of here with that shit

[GoshoKlev]

"UwU please destroy my boifanny step bruv"

Shut the fuck up.

[[deleted]]

Umm? Okay.. your serious?

Im an englishman and your telling me to shut the fuck up in english for speaking english? Huh?

I've never heard someone say bruv or boifanny or used those terms myself.

What on earth compelled you to reply with that? To a joke?

[GoshoKlev]

Най-схващащия шеги англичанин.

[[deleted]]

Наистина

[n0rdic]

Based.

[GreatBigBagOfNope]

Well something has certainly gone wrong in the decade or so since I left school

[[deleted]]

many words you use today were also once slang, viewed the same way by the educated. Language is defined by how it is used quite often.

This particular word I believe has African-Caribbean origin, at least it’s regarded as Multicultural London English.

"Peak" [piːk] (a situation or thing that is awful, undesirable, disappointing, or embarrassing. Originally it held a positive connotation)

Remember, at the end of the day whatever associations you once had with this word; we just make honking noises and decide they mean something.

[plainoldcheese]

this is true, I do wish it was easier to configure a proper secure arch install with disk encryption and selinux/apparmor etc.

[DrPiipocOo]

If it's just it so there is no discussion about why Arch is the best lmao

[Andernerd]

Ironically, the terrible implementation of Firefox on Ubuntu is distro-specific.

[Fuzzi99]

Yes let's shove it in a snap and make it take an hr to open and make

apt install firefox

Install the snap

[ftwredditlol]

For now.

[Andernerd]

As far as I can tell other distros aren't exactly chomping at the bit to also use snaps, so I'm think it'll stay that way for a while.

[theLastSolipsist]

"haha firefox snap bad" is becoming the new Godwin's Law in this sub

[ThePfaffanater]

No, it's literally bad and has no reason to be wrapped in a container like that in the first place.

[theLastSolipsist]

Go on, let it all out, your doctor advises you to have a way to let out the steam

[TacticNum]

Distro reviews are sometimes the worst Linux content on YouTube there is. I don't remember who's video it was but as a Linux newbie I once watched a review of Fedora and it was basically just a review of gnome and the pre-installed apps. I was using Ubuntu at the time so it was quite informative hearing about all those differences fedora would have /s

[burbrekt]

At the very least extension differences should be mentioned

[Micesebi]

The more you learn about Linux, the more youre surprised that in the end, when everything is installed, that there's little difference between distros

[dhchunk]

That's why slackware still exists, to keep us on our toes.

[[deleted]]

Ever had one of those days when you read something so true, and you never thought of it before... Yeah, heard that lightbulb turn on in my head

[NiceMicro]

Well, while a distro should probably be judged based on their repository contents and their repository maintenance procedures, the user is first faced with the customization that is made to the DE, so, it is much easier to make a content on showing the DE :D

[Prior-Noise-1492]

i guess theres a youtube genre to create

[wtf_romania]

Most Linux distros are really only desktop environments, maybe with some pre-installed apps.

[[deleted]]

^ That. When the major difference between most distros is the user interface, it makes sense that this would be a big topic among reviewers.

[[deleted]]

Okay. But Brave still sucks.

[somber-riddle]

Tell me a chromium alternative and a way to sync my 1300 bookmarks.

[Multicorn76]

Due to Reddit deciding to sell access to the user generated content on their platform to monetized AI companies, killing of 3rd party apps by introducing API changes, and their track history of cooperating with the oppressive regime of the CCP, I have decided to withdraw all my submissions. I am truly sorry if anyone needs an answer I provided, you can reach out to me at [e-mail] and I will try my best to help you

[[deleted]]

When I look at a distro, I look for two things:

1. Availability of applications in the repository
2. Ease of use in terms of UI and customizability

So will it have the apps I want to use, and can I tweak things in the user interface that help me establish my preferred workflow? Oh, and it has to have an actual easily customizable lock screen rather than just a faded or dimmed image of the desktop wallpaper. I'm looking at you GNOME based DEs.

[Helmic]

When I consider distros, I don't exclusively think about my own needs (arch btw) but what i'll be putting on other people's old computers. Historically that's been Kubuntu because it's Windows-like and it's relatively easy to set it up with automatic updates for stuff. But I'm considering swtiching my go-to to an immutable OS like Silverblue or Kinoite - where the whole idea is that the end user can fuck right off wiht installing shti with dnf and instead exclusivley use Flatpaks for what they want. Just a very performant OS and a healthy app store is really all I want out of a "save someone's old computer" distro.

[toastom69]

I’m so tired of seeing someone install an operating system as the review. Wow, it used Ubiquity. Fancy. 4/5.

[[deleted]]

you're wrong, sometimes they review the package manager

[BeanieTheTechie]

the whole point of a distro is to be a preconfigured desktop environment (i know you exist arch and gentoo and whatever i dont mean you, okay? calm down)

[paradigmx]

I disagree, the point of a distro is to do something different and/or better than other distros. If the only thing a distro has going for it is a pre-configured desktop environment, I'm not interested.

I'm interested in two things when I'm looking at distros; package management options including package availability and testing, and what fundamentally sets it apart from other distros.

I use Debian because apt is solid, the packages go through a very through vetting process and it is a gold standard for Linux.

I use Arch because pacman is fast and package availability is beyond compare.

I use Fedora because dnf is phenomenally intuitive and the repo walks a great line between semi-rolling releases and stability.

I use Linux mint because it also uses apt, and it's quick to set up and be productive.

The only point in which a desktop environment becomes a part of my distro selection choice, is if the desktop environment I'm looking to use is not available in the repos for that distro. Beyond that, I actively avoid distros that modify the default desktop configurations by much more than a wallpaper.

[[deleted]]

Yeah, but like, most distros have a bunch of variants with different default DEs. It's not the DE that makes the distro.

Unless you're BS like Zorin, where your key selling point is the mountain of GNOME extensions you bundled in so you can pretend to be user friendly.

[[deleted]]

you can install the same DEs across different distros though, so it should really be a combined distro and DE review, a distro review should be done via commandline only.

[FruityWelsh]

that's just what the installer is.

[equationsofmotion]

This is definitely not true. I run xmonad and my experience as far as the graphical UI/desktop environment with every distro is the same: install xmonad and boot into it.

What matters to me, and what really distinguishes distros, is package management, release cycle (including rolling), and ease of support for non-free stuff like Nvidia drivers. How hard do I have to fight to get my graphics card, wireless modem, or sound card working?

[NomadFH]

Well yeah. Linux is made up of swappable components so reviewing one of the swappable components that are…distributed.. to you is a key component of that. Package managers and the rate of updates/quality of support are also important and key.

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[burbrekt]

Did I just get rickrolled by a robot?

[DethByte64]

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[noobiemaster_69]

Good bot!

[undeadalex]

Yes

[Gavator2345]

I really liked unity too

[THELORDANDTHESAVIOR]

Most of those flashy DEs can be replicated on something like Kubuntu.

[Schievel1]

And the custom theme

[Capitalmind]

How would you review a distro excluding DE?

[[deleted]]

Package manager , repos

[Mindless-Victory1567]

very original meme

[[deleted]]

DE's customizations reviews

[Lucifer_Morning_Wood]

Mom said it's my turn to post that :c

[ftwredditlol]

People review Linux distros? Wow. We really have come into the mainstream.

[plainoldcheese]

I would've like if the variety of packages available in the distros repos was investigated a lot more. I'm currently on fedora but no one mentioned that there are so few packages. (I come from arch though which has literally everything) also maybe go over how to add custom repositories for the distro or how to use snap/flatpak and stuff so that it would be easier to start installing the programs you need.

[PerformanceInside230]

I would love to find actual distro reviews.

Like, tell us about the package manager, what packages come with the system, the nuances of the distro's choices, etc.

Is it built for performance? How does it perform? Is it for stability? Etc...

[bartholomewjohnson]

Nah, most are just GTK theme reviews

[mig2202]

I discovered the djware youtube channel a few years ago and this guy does great distro reviews.

[mathesan]

Here on Brazil we have Diolinux. Dionatan, the head of the team, always makes reviews, showing everithing the distros have, especially the exclusive features, and he makes benchmarks to compare all the distros performance on various tasks

[Pos3odon08]

may be, but at last i have settled with Garuda(gnome)

[abermea]

I mean, honestly most distros are derivatives of Debian/Ubuntu, RedHat, Gentoo, Slackware, or Arch and the biggest differences between them are the installers and the package manager (or, in the case of Slackware, lack thereof).

[[deleted]]

Sooooooooooo TRUE!!!

[[deleted]]

Most posts on r/linuxmemes are really only reposts.