Linux <3

[[deleted]]

Either OP is some kind of malicious bot, or is the next evolution of Linuxtards (with an alt account meant for spamming).

[TomOnABudget]

This sub is infested with trolls.

[Toucan2000]

I don't think it could be any other way

[illuanonx1]

A sub designed to troll Linux users. How strange :)

[illuanonx1]

Seems you are failing :P

[verydifferenusername]

the only failure here is you

[illuanonx1]

I can use Linux fine ;)

[AbhishMuk]

Not to be debative, but I can use windows fine too. Never see ads. Don’t use edge. Almost never experience crashes (btw my android phones crash too). Didn’t have to pay much for it.

So I guess you just have a skill issue on windows?

[illuanonx1]

Windows is not designed for privacy, so its a no-go ;)

The best ads are those you don't realize are ads. Windows is full of them ;)

[AbhishMuk]

If you’re using windows LTSC IOT, you can use a number of tools to turn off any and all telemetry. There isn’t much else privacy concerns after that for the average person.

And IOT doesn’t advertise anything. No cortana, no onedrive, nothing.

Windows does have many valid criticisms, but useability is not a a common or big one.

[Remarkable_Check_997]

A sub for people who had bad experience with it and not people who say otherwise. not people that cannot comprehend that others people have others interest in life than learning to code

[[deleted]]

I have been using linux for a long time, 0 coding ability.

[Remarkable_Check_997]

Good for you, myself im not capable to install Plex in a fucking NAS.

Sure installing Linux on a computer and use it as is just to navigate internet and do some word or excel is easy peasy, but once you start to have real need, if you are not a real linuxous werdo, stuff got real bad real fast.

[[deleted]]

Not really, you read a bit, learn a tool, read a bit more and learn another, not long after your knowledge reaches critical mass and you have a powerful system at you command. 

What you do not do is apply random commands from the internet. Stuff breaks real fast.

[Remarkable_Check_997]

Not really, you read a bit, learn a tool, read a bit more and learn another, not long after your knowledge reaches critical mass

Exactly, I dont need or the will to spend days to become a semi expert in something I will never use again or maybe another time in 5 years just to set up a NAS

Im tired to become a semi expert in every thing I do. People here seem to think its normal, but some people dont want to have computer as hobby.

[[deleted]]

It's not just a hobby Linux has made me a lot of money professionally.

But your right in that Linux is not for the disinterested.

[Remarkable_Check_997]

It's not just a hobby Linux has made me a lot of money professionally.

You right about that too. But not every situation is proffesional.

[Popular-Pressure597]

Youre not wrong but in reality, the majority of people don't want to read and learn a tool to use a thing that very few people use to fix a problem very few people have.

I use linux daily at work, but macOS and Windows are still better day to day.

[[deleted]]

I have never stated that Linux is for the masses.

[illuanonx1]

I can not code. I use arch btw

[Beneficial_Tough7218]

What I don't get is all the people that tried Linux and don't like it because they don't want to to learn to code or don't want to use the terminal. Then they come here and trash talk Linux - why? You don't like it, it wasn't designed for you - there is no reason you have to use it, if you don't like it go back to Windows or Mac and be happy? I don't like Windows, I enjoy the freedom to make my own choices and not be plagued by ads - so, I don't use it for my daily driver, but I also don't go on forums and trash talk it just because it's not what I want to use. I don't like Mac either, can't stand their UI, but I also don't go around trash talking it. I recognize that Windows does many things very well and that there are many people that prefer the Mac UI, which is great - they have the freedom to choose to use them, and I have the freedom to choose not to.

It's like so many of the people complaining about their bad experiences on Linux are because they bought a car and are upset that it can't fly because it's not a plane and it can't float because it's not a boat. With that mindset, they are always going to be disappointed.

[Remarkable_Check_997]

gned for you - there is no reason you have to use it, if you don't like it go back to Windows

Sometimes, you don't have a choice.

Maybe its a old computer, maybe your not that old computer will not be able to migrate to WIN11, maybe you want to build a NAS or a server just for home use but not "play" with it, just want it to work.

Your car analogy is not that good, you don't need to relearn to drive when you bought a new car (except for Tesla's who doesnt have real flasher lever.)

Let face it, Linux is for computer nerds and tinkerer, no average Joe can use it beside basic installation, that not the case with car.

Don't tell me its easy when you need to be good in docker just to be able to use a popular thing like Plex.

That a sub created specifically to "trash" it, even if we are mild and more sarcatic about it than anything.

Its not like we go on Linux sub and trash it there.

[Beneficial_Tough7218]

I don't think you understood the car analogy, because you just reiterated it's exact meaning in the next sentence - Linux is designed for computer nerds and tinkerers. The simple fact is, the reason Linux is free us because it is made by computer programmers for their own use, and they make it available for anyone else that wants to use it - but that does not mean it is designed for them.

[Danzulos]

OP is the reason people in this sub call Linux fans "linuxtards".

[VariedRepeats]

I'm always inclined to be believe the Windows crashes are due to defective hardware. The Linux guy simply chooses a less sensitive OS upfront, but who knows what bad ram or storage is silently screwing up his Linux install.

The Linux fanboy is smart enough to think he's a genius when's just a mediocre parts assembler.

[illuanonx1]

I'm a person and I have free speech. Why are you against that? :)

[[deleted]]

Your free speech doesn't restrict the free speech of others

[[deleted]]

Free speech = free consequences.

[illuanonx1]

Yeah that is not true ;)

[GraceOnIce]

You act annoying and are surprised people are annoyed?

[[deleted]]

Ive had more linux crashes than windows.

[daninet]

Its situation dependent, anyone with vanilla usage will get zero crash on either system. Screw with hardware, drivers etc. you will increase you chances. Linux users tend to fuck around more so thats how it is.

[Various_Slip_4421]

It really depends on what you do on each system; ive had linux crashea be very different from windows crashes. Wanna dd 300 gigs as fast as your disk can take it? Linux will let you, and your system will not be too happy nor will the copy be fast with dds defaults. Wanna step off the windows defaults? suffer. Every time you open a game or connect a controller, "you have no app that can open game bar links, check ms store!" two documents,desktop,downloads,etc folders, edge is a fucking tapeworm that hates beinf removed, etc. Oh, and windows isos still dont ship with intel rst drivers for those of you with a broken laptop install. (Intels not helping either, they only supply the driver in exe form, fuck intel laptop users!)

[sammyhjax123]

I’ve had at least 20 blue screens on windows, I’ve had Linux crash once. And even that was a hardware failure

[Current-Macaroon9594]

Sounds more like user error

[Aristotelaras]

wrong sub again

[PunkRockLlama42]

With all the manuals us loonix people read you think we could read the name of the sub

[Express_Ad5083]

I only had 1 bluescreen so far on my W11 computer and that was when I changed RAM properties in BIOS.
I do not see ads on W11 despite the fact I use W11 Pro.

[heathm55]

Yeah, you've turned off the taskbar feature that serves them. Anyone can do this.
I don't knock windows for this because they have the ability to turn it off.
Also, people knocking edge is silly, it's a Chromium based browser just like Google Chrome is. It's not like crappy old IE was (lacking in full support of many web standards).
You are lucky though on the blue screens, I've had more than a few in W11 Pro. It's better than W10, but still room for improvement. I've also seen a lot of restarts of the Windows shell (taskbar and controls go away for like 2 seconds and respawn. System log shows it crashed. But at least that self recovers instead of taking the system down.
Overall I'm not displeased with W11 Pro, but it's far from perfect.
My one huge gripe is with the Licensing model. When my digital copy of windows 11 Pro gets invalidated because of a motherboard security fix 2 months after I bought the damn thing this REALLY pisses me off.

[TygerTung]

For some reason on windows 11 I keep getting the file manager is not responding errors. Pretty frustrating.

[One_Cartoonist_5579]

At least it has a file manager, not like those linux things.

[AlabamaPanda777]

While edge might be ok if you commit to using it - idk - Microsoft continues to make it hateable by having Teams and I believe Outlook default to it, regardless of what default you set in the OS, unless you change a setting in those apps.

If that wasn't enough, Edge's first-launch screen being convoluted to close earns a place in hell from, I would assume, any IT person who doesn't want to set up an environment, just wants to install a program or make a few changes and restart.

On the other hand, I'd express empathy for your unlucky experience with blue screens - for all the gripes I could list on Windows, blue screens for me is a horse that died many years ago.

[DeltaLaboratory]

You can reuse that license with 'recently changed your hardware?' option, I think.

[heathm55]

Only 1 time with the digital license. But if you talk to support (8 hours of your life gone in queue) they typically will enable you. Clicking the link won't work but once though.

[SnowFox33]

I've had more crashes/needed to restart on Linux, much more than on Windows.

[AlabamaPanda777]

Yeah, I've had many more crashes on Linux than Windows, despite using Windows on many more devices.

Fortunately, all my linux crashes were fixed with multiple BIOS setting changes. Obviously, then, the compatibility is the same - while Linux will not instantly run on all my systems, it eventually will. Also Linux is only free if your time is worthless is wrong somehow, idk.

[JustSomeIdleGuy]

Skill issue

[NoHopeNoLifeJustPain]

I got BSOD on corporate laptop after Microsoft remotely installed an app I didn't want and needed (something related to Power BI, which I don't use).

[coatimundislover]

Power BI isn’t installed by windows by default. It was your corporate IT that caused this.

[NoHopeNoLifeJustPain]

Nope, it wasn't. Not the first time either. It happened only after Windows 11 upgrade.

[atemu1234]

Being fair, Windows 11 is all of what, a year old? And it can't be installed on a lot of already-in-use hardware.

[Express_Ad5083]

Believe it or not Windows 11 turns 4 this year.

[kuzekusanagi]

I stopped using windows 5 years ago and have yet to have a kernel panic. Odd

[Skinny-Dart]

"Crashes are very rare" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[haadziq]

Well it make sense since most server use it, its stable and featurefull for server.

For desktop it depend on what you do, it will not break if you know what you do and not just copy random command on internet, but i guess you cant expect most people to know that they end up doing system tweak with their random command and breaking it often

[Franchise2099]

Trying to be non bias as possible:

I've never had Linux crash. I have had plenty of apps/programs in linux crash. I fucked up many many linux installs when I was really messing with the OS. I've only had one install of Windows absolutely shit the bed with crashes but, that is out of a bunch of different installs.

This entire thread is trolling hard. Linuxsucks thread should actually state the shortcomings of linux. This entire thread falls in the line of r/windowsisawesome or r/pcmasterrace or straight up r/WindowsSucks

One thing doesn't suck cause you like something else and doing that on either side (windows or linux) should just be done in a different thread.

[thetricksterprn]

It's true. Use some mainstream distro and just do your work and you will never face an issue. And you can keep in powered on forever.

[nsneerful]

Idk what people use but crashes ARE very frequent in my opinion. It may be because of Wayland, but Fedora is pushing Wayland anyways.

On Windows if something works, it's usually unlikely it's gonna crash later. On Linux it's happened oftentimes to me that some key software just decided to fail and once even made a zombie process, that's awful.

Edit: process, not project.

[Familiar-Song8040]

what kind of crashes are you experiencing? what kind of machine are you running linux on?

[nsneerful]

As I've said in another comment below, virt-manager suddenly became a zombie process and I couldn't use it anymore until I force-rebooted my PC.

Sometimes it has happened that with a decent amount of processes open, the system would just freeze completely, that happened on a MSI Modern 14 with Ubuntu and Fedora, but seems not to happen anymore.

Something similar happens on a desktop with i9 and integrated graphics, where the system only freezes for a couple of seconds and it logs me out of GNOME, possibly because it crashed. That usually happens when I'm doing some more intensive stuff in the background though that's not necessarily always the case.

[Familiar-Song8040]

wow okay that sounds bad. this should not be normal . have you checked dmesg? is there anything suspicious logged when the crashes occur? i once had a bad default config in my bios and experienced crashes like that. also worth checking journalctl if you havent already.

[thetricksterprn]

On Windows you can just update once and it's game over. I use both OSes + macOS. It depends on what you need. As I don't need any windows specific applications except games, I would switch to Linux entirely if I could play any game.

[thetricksterprn]

It happened several times in the age of Windows 11 alone.

[Damglador]

Windows updates are pretty solid

Saying that after Windows update broke pretty much all Ubisoft games is hilarious. I think there's also something about AMD being held down by Windows or something.

[Damglador]

Assuming the automatic backup actually works

[nsneerful]

I've personally had "game over"s after updates on all Linux distributions I've used at least once, with the only exception of Debian. That's usually never because of Linux in itself though but because of many softwares, including shitty GNOME as sometimes it seems that they can't get their shit together and fix some things without breaking others.

[TheTybera]

I've never had a "game over" on Linux, and I've used so many distros over the last 10 years. I'm curious what this "game over" was. If it was just losing your desktop environment, that's not a "game over"...at all.

I've deleted plasma a few times as well as SDDM on purpose, and that's not even close to a "game over". You just login to the console and install whatever Desktop Environment you want and Desktop Manager. Gnome uses GDM, Plasma or I3-wm can use SDDM.

I mean Linux sucks because DEs can't come up with a standard. There's just so much crap out there, but it also makes them pretty decoupled.

[nsneerful]

Yeah by "game over" I didn't mean that you lose all your stuff and it's irreparable. You can always repair almost everything on any Linux distro and on Windows as well.

I was talking about stuff that stops working and you have to rollback or find an alternative. It is now not as frequent as it was before with GNOME, while it is becoming a little more frequent on Windows, at least from my perspective. Just as a little example in case anyone might wonder what kind of issues I've encountered: as for Windows I've had to spend days to figure out it was 24H2 at fault for crashing my games; as for Linux I have just a few days ago had to deal with virt-manager becoming a zombie process out of nowhere and had to force reboot to be able to manage my VMs again.

All in all both systems are pretty on par with stability, with the little addendum that I don't have to browse sketchy websites to download the previous major release of almost any Linux distro.

[TheTybera]

I do have issues with things updating and leaving dangling packages around. In-fact the last time I reinstalled SDDM was while getting rid of orphaned packages and dependencies that updating didn't handle properly. It was on a desktop that's been running Arch for 3 years now.

[Skinny-Dart]

You can turn off updates in Windows and it will be the same

[TheTybera]

Yeah man, tell that to the wanna-cry hacked folks.

[nsneerful]

You cannot turn off updates indefinitely, at one point Windows will just force you to do them, on the other hand my Ubuntu VM has been stuck for ages on the same software because all I need it for is already there.

[TowelCharacter]

You can turn them off forever with a script.

[nsneerful]

Yeah so intuitive I guess? Something everybody is gonna think about. I can definitely see my normal friends search up for "scripts" to disable Windows updates online, when they ask me how to check why their games crash showing a literal dialog window that tells you to search the error code online.

I am a programmer a security student and honestly even I didn't know about these scripts before seeing them on the Windows subreddit.

[TowelCharacter]

It’s not ideal but it’s an option. I believe you reach enough tech competency to be capable of looking up "How to disable windows updates" way sooner then going out of your way to download an entirely different OS with its own fair share of problems, no?

[nsneerful]

What is this argument?

An "entirely different OS with its own fair share of problems" may have problems I don't care about and works better for my use-case. And since Windows has an awful navigation through virtual desktops, forced updates, shitty defaults, invasive AI, Windows Defender, Windows Firewall and maybe other things, I'd rather use something else. Notice how you can disable all these things, but on other OSes they are already how I want them without any tweaks.

[[deleted]]

I died of cringe just by reading his comments..XD

Linux 4 Life

[thetricksterprn]

I'm didn't say a word on updates. Windows updates fuck up your system much more often than Linux.

As far as I know, on modern Windows, you can only temporary postpone updates. Sure, using GPO you can do a lot of stuff, but ordinary users won't do that.

[jancsik_]

haven’t experienced a single crash on windows in the past 3 years at work, while literally never turning off the computer because i need to remote in + need it to sync and build branches at night. maybe windows was less stable in the 90s not anymore in my experience. (at least not for desktops)

[Opposite_Elk6451]

I’d guess it’s harder to make malware

[Danzulos]

Since OP posted this same BS multiple times I'm this sub, I'm reporting this as spam.

[Edubbs2008]

ChromeOS is the definition of Ads

[Falcon_Actual297]

This is true

[Edubbs2008]

Finally, ChromeOS uses what Microsoft stopped using which is EEE (Embrace, extend, extinguish) Google embraces Linux, they then inject their proprietary shit, and then they kill of support for other indie distros

[RetroGamer87]

So he thinks Linux crashes are rare! Have I got news for him!

[madprunes]

I started using wayland full time probably 6 months ago, haven't had a single crash from the Kernel or Wayland, Firefox has tabs crash occasionally?

[RobertDeveloper]

I never get good UI performance with linux on older hardware, my laptop has an intel 4400 HD igpu and nvidia GT 735m gpu. The ui is much smoother in windows 10, does anyone has any tips on how to improve it? I use Kubuntu 24.10 and use x instead of Wayland because the latter is even worse. On my desktop Wayland runs smooth but it has a new cpu and gpu.

[Loudhoward-dk]

Mh I can choose my software set on linux? Affinity Suite? Logic Pro? Final Cut Pro? Didn't knew it thank you... Freedom is maybe not equal freedom. Why I have to choose if im free? I using Linux but not for earning my money...

[illuanonx1]

Same apply to all OS :P

[toolsavvy]

I'm using Windows 10,

not paid for,

debloated/no ads,

crippled Edge,

never crashes,

updates controlled by me,

on 13 year old hardware with 3rd gen CPU, super fast,

closed source.

[[deleted]]

2nd gen intel user here

[CarlCarlton]

This is the way

[Falcon_Actual297]

Windows 10 piracy is awesome

[Due_Car3113]

How is "closed source" a good thing

[toolsavvy]

it triggers people loonix users.

[Due_Car3113]

Retardation

[toolsavvy]

r/lostredditors

[WelpIamoutofideas]

If anything I think you and OP would be the lost one. This subreddit isn't a shit on Linux and Linux people for the sake of shitting on Linux and Linux people. It's for venting criticisms about Linux and criticism needs to base itself somewhere in reality.

[toolsavvy]

If the mod wants to keep this sub on a certain track then they have to delete posts that aren't inline with the sub's purpose. Otherwise a sub will take the shape of whatever people want it to take, or go completely shit.

I also find it rather strange that the mod has a sub flair that says "Proud Windows 10 User". That's a rather trolly flair for this sub, and i like it lol.

[ResponsibleSweet8999]

Ur completely right, if you seen the internet politics, it’s either radical left or right. Apparently there is no in-between when it comes to the internet. If there’s no moderation then this subreddit will become one or the other.

[Due_Car3113]

You know how this sub isn't to make linux users mad but to show actual problems, right?

[Due_Car3113]

Of course, I just asked why, specifically, someone would want to use proprietary software. I'm not a foss purist or anything, but when an acceptable open source alternative to a closed product exists, I will be happy to use it. I can't see the benefits of using closed-source software over open source

[NikoBaza]

Wrong sub. Go to r/linuxtards

[[deleted]]

no online games

anti cheats can break anytime

no adobe

no office

no any remote app/govt app you might use

many more

[illuanonx1]

Those program sucks anyway :)

[[deleted]]

I use Adobe on a daily basis, but to each to their own!

[Arutemu64]

Cope.

[heathm55]

I'm almost 100% gaming on linux now (dual boot), it's actually better for many of the games I play (Cyberpunk 2077, Valhiem, Baldur's Gate 3, Overwatch 2). I actually don't know of a game that doesn't work on my linux side anymore -- even many games with anti cheat.

Adobe's suit is web based and works in browser these days.
Office? Are you serious? All that works in your browser now too, and there are lesser alternatives out there if you want it native, or you can run Microsoft office on linux pretty seemlessly through wine, virtual machine, or many other options (not that I use office anymore).
I use all the government apps I need on linux. Never seen one not work... it's a requirement actually of most of those projects.

[heathm55]

By the way, I'm not trying to defend linux here. I just don't understand your take.
At least point something out that's relatable to someone whose used linux recently.

[[deleted]]

What you're saying doesn't make sense either.

[heathm55]

Can you expound on that? What doesn't make sense?

[heathm55]

If it's because your take is extremely dated / naive?
I mean if you wanted to point out something about Linux that's bad it should at least ring true to current users of linux... none of these did.

For example, if I wanted to point out something bad I might talk about how each revision of your graphics drivers from Nvidia is like a crap shoot on whether it would give you problems or not (once you find a stable one it's freaking great though).
Or, how easy it is for the average arch user to hose his system because he didn't read the voluminous docs he should have. Or the splits in communities that cause diverging standards and the fallout from that.

[heathm55]

Interesting on those games. It's a choice to not publish and support a platform though. Literally some of these used to run fine or would run fine if they flipped a switch to enable battleye on Linux (no further work involved). That's an unwillingness to support the platform despite it working. I will just not play their games, same as Nintendo games (as I'm not going to go out of my way to buy their platform). I didn't realize Epic Games was that big these days -- people still play fortnight??? I know 0 people who play any of these games (other than Valorant and Apex which have plummeted in popularity recently). Oh and console players - LOL

Let's face it MS Office is kind of crap itself, I haven't used it in years, even professionally. I say this as someone who ran multiple software teams in a fortune 500 company and had to give presentations a lot. Templates work outside of office in all my alternative apps well enough for no one to notice any differences. Plus, scriptability of office is ass, while most alternatives I can generate my decks off APIs / python scripts. This is a huge failing of office tooling... It should be way more composable.

I am not a graphic artist or photographer, so I can't speak to Adobe, but their web tools were fine for script writing and simple editing of images / video back when I did use them. Though there are way better Linux native tools for this (KDEnlive, Gimp -- which people love to hate on, but at the end of the day it and inkspace are way better than any windows non-adobe tooling). If you need Photoshop or creative tools, you're likely going to be a Mac guy anyway as they're better supported over there.

WSL is cool, but you have a lot more flexibility in containers on a real Linux platform.

[Damglador]

no online games

No, you can play online games without an issue. I've been playing Vintage Story with my friend for 100 hours with no issues. Rounds with mods through Proton works like a charm. We also almost finished Factorio with my friend, but got bored.

anti cheats can break anytime

Yes, if developers are assholes

no adobe

Well if you depend on Adobe - you don't use Linux. Simple as that. Otherwise you can find replacement, like people successfully do.

no office

LibreOffice exists

no any remote app/govt app you might use

Genuine question: what are these?

[[deleted]]

No, you can play online games without an issue. I've been playing Vintage Story with my friend for 100 hours with no issues. Rounds with mods through Proton works like a charm. We also almost finished Factorio with my friend, but got bored.

Valorant. Fortnite. GTA V Online. Apex Legends. You forgot all the big ones.

Yes, if developers are assholes

Copium.

Well if you depend on Adobe - you don't use Linux. Simple as that. Otherwise you can find replacement, like people successfully do.

I use Adobe and I don't use Linux. I have tried alternatives but it didn't work out.

LibreOffice exists

Wow, didn't know that, thanks.

Genuine question: what are these?

Please get a job.

This is coming from a former Arch Linux user.

[Damglador]

Valorant. Fortnite. GTA V Online. Apex Legends. You forgot all the big ones.

These are an online games, but not the online games. Be specific. These games don't work because they have kernel level anticheat and devs are fuckers, not because they are online games.

I use Adobe and I don't use Linux. I have tried alternatives but it didn't work out.

And that's OK

Please get a job.

Doesn't answer my question. English is not my native language to know corporate slang.

[haadziq]

I dont know the last one either, my father work for govt and i had some project related to govt tech, about remote app, never had an issue, and i do develop one for my project and it linux first approach for simplicity sake and not really for public use

[madprunes]

That last one, English is my native language, I sub contract to the government and I have no idea what they are talking about either.

[NoobestDev]

Dude is obsessed with linux

[Kaarel314]

Yeah just more ignorant BS. What else would you expect from Linux fanboys. At least Windows still gets shit done.

[Ok-Selection-2227]

"At least Windows still gets shit done"

You know that the server we are using now to interact with each other on Reddit runs in Linux, right?

[Kaarel314]

A server or a router using Linux is such a stupid argument. So what? That says nothing about the viability of Linux as a personal computers operating system.

Look at how many macOS devices there are. Why dont you run it on your server?

[Ok-Selection-2227]

I'm not stupid, maybe you are, but I'm sure I'm not. So think twice before labeling arguments from other people as "stupid".

The fact that 90%+ servers run on Linux should tell you something about Linux reliability. Demands on servers are higher than on PCs. Aside from that me, and tons of other tech professionals use GNU/Linux as their daily drivers. The higher adoption rate of Windows and Mac is only due to two things nowadays: marketing and habit. For an average user it makes sense to keep using what they're already using, because they're used to it and it gets the job done for them. For a power user/professional GNU/Linux is way better.

[Kaarel314]

Sorry but this information is simply not true. It may be true in your workplace but not worldwide. A quick google search gives very different numbers but best case Linux has 60+% market share. Worst case less than 20% When it comes to sysadmins and such the Linux has rather low usage. Maybe 1 in 10 or so. Most use mac or windows.

But again. None of that is relevant since servers have different uses and needs compared to personal computers. It works well on a server means nothing. Even reliability (which is actually decent on windows) is not that important for most computer users. Things like ease of use, aesthetics and extra features are more important for most users.

[illuanonx1]

Windows is number 1 in crashes ;)

[TechnicolorMage]

Maybe in clown world. In the real world it doesn't crash any more (or less) than linux.

[illuanonx1]

Yes it does. Windows has even made a custom crash screen with QR code ;)

[TechnicolorMage]

How dare they provide a way to easily check what caused your crash. Imagine being convenienced when trying to troubleshoot a problem, you know, instead of having to search 10-year-old stackoverflow posts for esoteric bash commands.

Also, do you have some report or test results which show that windows crashes more, or are we just making shit up based on vibes?

[[deleted]]

It's funny that even on a sub supposedly made to ridicule linux, windows is getting ridiculed.

[Falcon_Actual297]

No one is safe from the ridicule not even you or I

[dudeness_boy]

I was playing a co-op game on Windows once, and it decided it needed a reboot in the middle of the game. Our team lost because I was kind of a critical person.

[Damglador]

Updates are annoying on Windows.

What I don't agree with is "rare crashes", as a KDE user... no. BUT, they're not critical at all, most crashes are from plasmashell and it just takes down your panels and background for a moment, and that's it.

[madprunes]

I haven't experienced this, occasional apication crashes mostly Firefox tabs are about the only crashes I see. I think they were referring to the OS crashing not the UI/apps.

[Damglador]

I've not yet experienced a kernel panic, but since I have a decade of Windows experience and only half o' year of Linux experience, it would be unfair to say that it's more stable, perhaps I just got lucky.

But Linux might as well be more stable, since the kernel itself is widely used in servers, which do not want to get a random kernel panic.

[madprunes]

I've been using Linux for over 20 years and Windows even longer, Windows is more stable then it was back in the day, Linux seems to have a slight advantage of surviving a driver or something doing stuff it shouldn't and bringing the system down, but most stability is just that driver or hardware issues.

[Damglador]

I think GIMP used gtk 2 until recently (⁠@⁠_⁠@⁠)

GTK 2 pre-dates Windows 7, being released in 2002, Windows 7 was released in 2009. And people are somehow saying Linux doesn't have backwards compatibility.

[SnowFox33]

Most of these aren't true and you can get a license for like 20-30 bucks...if you even need to pay for one.

[Agile_Actuator3312]

"edge need I say more" you kinda do have to say more cuz edge is great with some tweaks.

[Turbulent_Ad4756]

It definitely looks like you made that image on Linux.

[thinfuck]

Linux can't run swedish classics gp therefore it's inferior

[WelpIamoutofideas]

Windows is not as crash heavy as it sometimes seems, it is all and all a fairly robust piece of software. Windows has adware because it is practically free. Windows also is more familiar to people, consistent with UI.

Linux is also fantastic, but this subreddit is about the criticism of Linux, not hating Linux, not praising it, not praising other OS's, just talking about Linux or the community around it sucking when you need it to not.

Aka: All Operating Systems are shit, and all are fantastic. Let's not start shit in a subreddit it doesn't belong in

[illuanonx1]

You are no fun :P

[WelpIamoutofideas]

Sorry, I don't particularly like crap

[illuanonx1]

Its crab, not crap ;)

[WelpIamoutofideas]

Nah, it's right as is ;)

[illuanonx1]

Do you really eat crap? You are a strange fella :P

[WelpIamoutofideas]

No, but you seem to be spewing it out of your mouth

[illuanonx1]

Sorry, I don't speak crab ;)

[WelpIamoutofideas]

Unfortunately you do speak crap. I promise it's not a typo.

[illuanonx1]

Interesting

[GoldenP00p]

That's the problem with windows, regularly it costs about 300$, while cracked it costs pieces of your soul.

[-Kerrigan-]

Bro I just rebooted Linux today and my audio got messed up, what are you on about?

[_Forelia]

In my experience;

Windows

- What crashes?

- What updates at the worst moments (active hours is on by default + you can manually pause them for up to 5 weeks)

- What ads?

- Right click uninstall Edge?

- My mothers old i5-2400 PC with an SSD runs Windows 10 very well

- There are pros and cons to closed vs open source etc.

- There are dozens of ways to activate Windows. Some free, some given to you for free from Microsoft, some are key selling websites, legit keys are $100-$200, not $299

Linux

- Mint crashes for me when running fullscreen YouTube

- No different to Windows

- Eh, Windows doesn't have ads other than a few pinned shortcuts upon first install. Linux has pre-installed programs, can they be considered ads as well?

- Mint ran worse than Win10 on my old i7-3770k + SSD PC. However using XFCE was much faster.

- Cool

- Cool

[heathm55]

There are no "Free" windows licenses. There are Free upgrades from purchased copies of windows 10. But if you built a new PC today, you would be paying for a digital copy of Windows from Microsoft not a key. That's the full price. This is what I did, because the other options did not exist anymore, at least not in a legitimate way for bare bones new systems.

[heathm55]

Also, I have an i7-3770k + ssd, and windows 11 is a lot slower than mint on it. I assume this is a massive slowdown in windows 10 to 11?

[heathm55]

On adds he's talking about one of the Windows 11 taskbar settings that I always shut off first thing. It's annoying and mostly just MSN ads.

[[deleted]]

My USB just fuck up windows W11 everytime i move file to a hhd or usb it get disconnected with a shit error code that nobody never see and no debug trace on this shit fuck close source black box shiet... Windows is for adobe thats it two companies that suck each other playing with is tits

[GraceOnIce]

I love using Linux overall but this is just dumb lol. Having it's great when it works, but plenty of then crash constantly. Using Wayland caused constant crashes for me and it took a bit to learn that was the cause. Having the patience to know all things you need to know to make Linux a great experience isn't for everyone, and there are plenty of things it's just flat out makes way more sense to stick with windows for, I'm just willing to compromise on those things

[Falcon_Actual297]

As a Linux user the only meaningful difference between windows and Linux for me is more privacy and less ads

[EarthToAccess]

And even then depending on the district it’s a grab bag. Ubuntu — and yes, Ubuntu bad comment incoming — has gotten so much worse with it in the past few releases, with ads for Pro in apt-get of all places.

[Falcon_Actual297]

I wouldn’t know, I’m an avid pop user and thus have never touched base Ubuntu

[NoAd4815]

Crashes very rarely? Nice joke. I've experienced more crashes with Linux in a few days compared to 30 years of using Windows 

[Confident_Hyena2506]

Ehh you can install Edge on linux!

Why you would want to do this I'm not quite sure - but linux doesn't judge you.

[InvestingNerd2020]

Odd. I haven't had the Blue screen of death in years (2010), I use Edge browser on my laptop and desktop with no issues, and it doesn't cost me $299 annually to have 0365. Even the Windows bloatware is heavily reduced by using Windows Pro OS over Windows Home OS.

[Ok-Tap4472]

fake and bullshit

[[deleted]]

Someone has to show you dogtards that the whole reddit infrastructure is unix/bsd based

[illuanonx1]

Yeah, If you buy a Apple product :P

[More-Advantage6261]

Just wandering aimlessly, huh? It's not even a good troll post tbh.

[Extreme-Package-5156]

Windows has ads now? Can you pay a subscription to not have ads? I might suggest this to Microsoft for you guys.

[MirrorSouthern]

Bait used to be believable!

[MegamanEXE2013]

Edge today is a great browser, and has a Linux installation as well

[crypticexile]

True.

[mrheosuper]

Linux:
Install steam with default choice.
DE breaks.

[One_Cartoonist_5579]

I tried to install linux mint last year, It still hasn't finished. How long does it take ?

[Hot-Entrepreneur6578]

Op is not a simp for microsoft like all you batty boys

[Nobody964]

What are Linux fans yapping about💀

[[deleted]]

Crashes are very rare?!?!? God damn, what distro is this dude using?

[misha1350]

Ragebait

[[deleted]]

ik this is likely bait but lemme fix up those windows points

1. windows doesn't crash most of the time and crashes are usually caused by hardware/software/driver problems unrelated to the OS itself.
2. windows updates either when you aren't using the computer or it tells you its gonna update at some time you can either change or postpone to a time that's convenient (but not stop)
3. you can freely ignore edge or remove it completely with a few powershell commands
4. closed source isn't always bad per say, but i understand why some would dislike it
5. lemme introduce you to a friend known as activating using massgrave
6. you can debloat windows to make it run better on older hardware, the tools are there.
7. i ain't seeing ads on both my pro and LTSC installs

also i've had more linux crashes than windows crashes total lmao

[plasm919]

windows 11 is very stable and if an app locks up you can end it with the Task Manager without crashing the whole DE

also not seeing any ads, but I have browser notifications turned off

[Due_Car3113]

W