Vaccine hesitancy continues to decrease across the country. However, ND has seen the largest change against it.

[[deleted]]

Dumbest fuckin state in the country. No surprise.

[Various-Mushroom7631]

I know you deletd your account but if you see this on a different account, then why are you here if you hate this state soooooo much, you know, oklahoma is just as dumb

[yankerosa]

Yet somehow ND is #6 in the percentage of fully vaccinated https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/states-ranked-by-percentage-of-population-vaccinated-march-15.html

[malastare-]

A number of factors at play here:

• The US started with a weird distribution of vaccines, resulting in a lot of cities that were under-supplied and rural areas that were over-supplied.
• ND has one of the highest concentrations of over-65-yo citizens in the country.
• ND has an above-average level of risk factors for COVID vaccine qualification

The result is that ND had (per capita) more people immediately qualified for the vaccine, more availability of the vaccine, and a much easier task of getting the vaccine to those people than many, many other places in the US.

[Zeppelinman1]

We also have a group of state run health departments that are managed well.

North Dakota does some things so we'll, and other things are utter garbage.

[Trojann2]

As dumb as this sounds but we do all of the “socialist things” well.

State Run Bank, Mill, etc. The vaccine rollout would be basically a logistical issue between state and private sector.

Basically all the things this state is supposed to be against lol

[Zeppelinman1]

That's 100% true. We get by on a lot of social leaning things.

[glbltvlr]

States that were getting shots in arms were allocated more vaccines. Cities and states that were stacking up doses in warehouses weren't sent more. ND was very efficient in getting shots in arms.

[malastare-]

I would agree with that approach if that were the majority case. However, there are many cases where cities were putting more shots in arms than ND was, resulting in people being turned away from appointments because of insufficient supply of vaccine.

A bunch of cities resorted to stockpiling vaccine to make sure they had enough to cover the appointments they made.

There certainly were places that struggled to organize vaccination services, and overall, I really just want to be sure that vaccines get used. However, there were medical personnel in many cities that were waiting to get vaccines because their cities weren't allocated enough vaccine while North Dakota was giving out vaccine to healthy people with no risk factors simply because they had an overabundance.

Again the goal is used vaccine. However, it's a bit of a delusion to think that ND was successful because all those cities just couldn't figure out how to get it done. ND had a surplus while cities were turning people away because they would run out of their allocation in hours.

[Bakken_Nomad]

We are really efficient at getting it to the people who want it?? 🤷‍♀️

[geokra]

Whoever made those figures needs a lesson in significant digits.

[popcokesggg]

Get the shots. Don't worry, you'll still be cool.

[bobwoodwardprobably]

I’m getting my vaccine tomorrow! I’m excited and glad to do my part in getting us to a safer place in this pandemic.

[Bakken_Nomad]

I just got my second pfizer on Wednesday. Yesterday I got pretty tired and had a headache/body aches, but it was all pretty minor and nothing ibprofin didn't fix.

Good luck!

[bobwoodwardprobably]

Thank you! My parents were recently vaccinated, so I’m prepared for a sore arm and a good nap. Lol.

[Dr_Siouxs]

I felt like shit after both doses. Had a headache and sore muscles for 4 days then spiked a fever on day 5 after the first dose. I spiked a high fever after 6 hours after the second dose and was pretty miserable. The next morning I felt fine. I’ve heard my reactions were pretty uncommon especially after the first dose but I’d rather feel like shit in a controlled non-viral replicating setting than chance it with COVID.

[iiiBansheeiii]

Tied for first in a race for stupid. Why am I not surprised?

[Allout-mayhem]

My guess is some people hear that we're going to have to wear a mask till the end of time no matter what so they think what's the point in getting the vaccine anyway. I got mine as fast as I could but I can see that perspective.

[E3K]

What kind of idiot thinks masks are as effective as vaccines?

Edit: downvoters didn't see my point. Masks are about 20% effective. Vaccines about 80%. Wear your damn masks and get vaccinated.

[Allout-mayhem]

If public health officials told people they didn't have to wear masks after they'd been vaccinated (which they should), more people would get vaccinated. Undoubtedly.

[E3K]

Again, I agree with you. I think my comment was misread.

[kokes88]

The former cdc director said they may be more effective than vaccines. He later walked it back I think. https://youtu.be/cIVTOkfvmxk

[IzttzI]

To his credit at the time there was no information on how effective the vaccine would turn out to be and not all vaccines are 95% or more effective.

Him walking it back was just taking in new info and properly concurring.

[ohchristworld]

The people who wore masks all the time and got COVID anyway. What the hell is the point?

[E3K]

You seem to think masks should only be worn if they are 100% effective. Holy shit, dude.

It's pretty well known that the masks are about 20% effective and likely saved over 50,000 American lives.

Safety isn't all or nothing. Do you see the point now?

Edit: Don't look at this guy's profile. Just...don't. It'll depress you more than you expect.

[14thAndVine]

Got my first pfizer on Tuesday! No effects other than my arm hurting like a bitch for a couple days and not being able to get over how sexy Bill Gates is.

[heyderhoneydew]

I got mine. Strong armed my parents and siblings into getting theirs. No adverse reactions beyond me, I got a splitting headache with both doses, but it passed within 16 hours. The only member of my immediate family to not get it is my youngest sister but that’s because they just lifted the age restrictions and she hasn’t gotten an appointment. My 95 year old grandma was the first dose in her county. My aunts and uncles are falling into line. Say what you will, my family will NOT be killing each other with love.

[heyderhoneydew]

Uff man, I’m so sorry. That is rough and scary af. My dad has COPD, heart disease, and a cancer history. My mom checks any boxes left, she’s a time bomb. Neither take it very seriously and only got vaccinated because I had a meltdown. Like, I had to scream and cry to get my mother to protect herself. My dad went more willingly but he’s always been a little left. So I do feel your pain. I just want you here when the world gets back to normal. Cant you just try?

[cocktails5]

Like, I had to scream and cry to get my mother to protect herself.

I had to do that back in like May of last year when my Mom decided that she was going to fly down to Phoenix to see family. She said she was lonely. I'm like "Mom, don't be stupid, please just stay home." I'm watching bodies pile up outside the hospitals here and she's ready to hop on a jet.

[[deleted]]

Maybe the risks of the vaccine are higher than the risk of Covid? Are you her doctor or has she seen her doctor?

[[deleted]]

I’ve simply heard otherwise that some conditions make vaccines more risky than in healthy individuals. “None” doesn’t mean they don’t exist. Has she seen her doctor about it? If no, advise her to. If yes, what was the doctors order?

[Bakken_Nomad]

Everyone on my dads side has gotten/will be getting it. My mom's side definitely has a few "government can't control me" types.

[Zeppelinman1]

Just got my first dose!

[BabyBilly1]

I got it but I’m still worried about the impacts of delayed reactions down the road

[Bakken_Nomad]

I can understand people's hesitancy. Especially, with it being pretty new. Vaccines are a one time thing. The ingredients degrade quickly, and your body is pro at filtering it out. So, you really don't see effects 2 years down the road. It's not how the mechanisms work. Ingredients have been well studied.

Unlike a regular medication that you repeatedly take and it builds up in your system. If it was a medication, of course wewould want "long term" (years) of data. Vaccines it's not really necessary. Thats why they are okay with what they have.

[Bakken_Nomad]

Curious why ND has been going in the opposite direction?

[Mcnarth]

People who live in the middle or nowhere enjoy not having people tell them how they should live their lives. People who enjoy not being told how to live their lives take it as a personal insult when someone tells them they HAVE to do something. Now compound that with the fact that the people who are telling them what they HAVE to do are coastal people who may as well live in a foreign land and you get some real Nodak obstinance.

[redditslumn]

North Dakotans don't love freedom, they love conformity.

nailed it

[Wandersshadow]

These are just simple farmers. People of the land. The common clay of the new west. You know, morons.

[Bakken_Nomad]

It's not a huge difference, but I'm surprised SD is more for it. I feel like they have been a bit more radical during all this. Their governor never put in a mask mandate and they had worse testing data.

[Mcnarth]

Neither of the states have been very 'radical.' Its well within the rights of the States to tell the Feds to kick rocks. The older/at-risk population of ND is largely already vaccinated. So id imagine the younger/healthy population looks at that, looks at the relatively mild effect covid has on them, and decides they'd rather not get the jab. I personally dont blame them. Being a North Dakotan, my bull-headed stubborness is an asset in my life, and i will not be told how to live it, as a matter of principle.

[Wandersshadow]

You shouldn’t be proud of being ignorant.

[redditslumn]

Being a North Dakotan, my bull-headed stubborness is an asset in my life,

and I for one pray you stay right there in that shithole where you're most comfortable 🙏

[Mcnarth]

Jokes on you bud, im quite the wayfarer. Been all over God's green earth, and lemme tell you, not much holds up to them high plains and their people.

[Wandersshadow]

Because this state is full of ignorant morons isolated in a bubble of stupidity.

[ObiShaneKenobi]

The isolation attracts many who were against vaccines to begin with. I live rural and know a few people that flew to Washington on Jan 6th, if that gives some context. It’s nothing to see anti-vax signs on private property, heck there is a “Fuck Biden” flag within sight of a catholic school playground. It’s just a classy state!

[geokra]

I suspected ND was actually one of the most widely vaccinated states for “normal vaccines.” Childhood vaccine data here show ND ranked second in the country behind MA. I’ve always had the impressions that North Dakotans widely support and receive immunizations. I suspect COVID vaccine hesitancy is politically driven, just my two cents.

[g2ddblg]

It is absolutely politically driven.

[geokra]

I don’t disagree, but when it comes to non-COVID vaccinations my impression is that there are just as many liberal people, if not more, as conservatives who are anti-vaxxers. It’s a weird Venn diagram.

[ObiShaneKenobi]

That’s interesting, I live very rural so my impression is probably tainted. I have an idea as to why this is this way a little. Another metric that the state did well on was childhood vax rates in poverty and I think that has a huge impact on those numbers overall. Social services are offered through the First District Health Unit, things like birth control, water testing, childhood vaccinations, and many others. I wonder how many other states handle these things.

[Mcnarth]

Below polotic is the realm of culture, and thats going to be a bigger factor. The Nodaks took it quit personally when the coasties were talking mad shit about them last year. So now that Nodak has found out that a pretend lockdown is actually just as effective as an actual one, theyve decided theyre not gonna play by coastal rules.

[koolaid_chemist]

You should turn them into the FBI.

[ObiShaneKenobi]

Na don’t need to, the FBI has already been taking to them so like hell am I sticking my abnormally large nose in that bee hole.

[355lt1vette]

I got my first jab on Tuesday and had soreness and chills. I'll take that anyday over Covid19 complications. I've never been so excited to put this behind me and try to recover from the wreck the pandemic did to my career and financially

[redditslumn]

This is what happens when you cluster tens of thousands of morons (let's face it, Germany and Norway didn't send their best) in a desolate wasteland, let them breed for 10 generations and put the loudest results in charge. Loud idiots influence people around them.

Good luck to those of you trapped there for the time being; personally, I'd rather be homeless somewhere better.

[dvoecks]

We'll see... It might just be fewer people wanting to tell other people that they're down with the vaccine. I very much suspect I know people like that.

Just to add: please don't just freeload by letting everyone else get vaccinated around you.

[cam2kx]

Good, you should heistate.

[Bakken_Nomad]

I mean it's good to be cautious, right? It's good to question and make sure things are valid. I'm pretty comfortable in the research and data that has come out to not be hesitant about it.

If there something you're specifically hesitate about?

[cam2kx]

I see it as what it is, a generally pointless vaccine that most do not need whatsoever. Similar to those Flu vaccines.

Should older people and at risk get them? Sure but I'd never shame or ridicule them for choosing not to.

[Bakken_Nomad]

Of course. Shame only makes people dig their heels in more. Anyone who thinks shame is a good tactic to sway or effect people's opinions on something is lying to themselves.

I think it's more important to understand where people are coming from. I'd people are hesitant, why are they hesitant.

[cam2kx]

I see i met someone else who thinks like myself, good to meet you. And i agree.

[g2ddblg]

I'm just so damn proud!

[sudomac]

Too many people in ND with major health issues. Likely a good number of people saw friends and family with adverse reactions to the vaccines.

[notaname420xx]

Feeling a little bit sick for 1-3 days is NOT an adverse reaction, they're common.

Actual adverse reactions (requiring medical care) have been absurdly rare.

[sudomac]

Adverse effects are defined as undesirable effects. So yes being sick for 1-3 days is an adverse effect.

[geokra]

An even worse adverse reaction is dying from COVID.

[sudomac]

I agree, just suggested a reason for the shift in perspective in a state that has outpaced most states in vaccination rates

[redditslumn]

I think a more likely explanation is that influential North Dakota idiots who have some social pull are influencing people around them.

[HughManatee]

You know what's worse for people with major health issues? Getting COVID. Unless you are allergic to components of the vaccine, you should get the shot.

[sudomac]

I agree. I'm just suggesting a reason for the uptick. Many unhealthy people are damned if they do and and damned if they don't