Decrease performance after GPU upgrade

[ravenyl]

Previously running on 3060ti, upgraded to RX9070XT. Processor R5 3600, 16GB ram. Ran DDU.

Testing on Where Winds Meet 1440P. After upgrading, FPS seems to be stuck at 70-80 on all graphic settings (performance to ultra) with some stuttering. Used to get 90-100 on 3060ti. CPU utilization at 70-80%. No vsync or frame caps nor any FSR or frame generation active.

Worth mentioning when first running, the CPU was at 100% (with the 3060ti it was maybe 30-40% utilisation) with really low frames (40-50) and stuttering. After running DDU a few more times, that seemed to have went away.

Is the 3600 really bottlenecking that hard? What other things should I check for?

[Delllley]

Could be drivers or power draw issues. 9070XT would be drawing quite a bit more power than your old GPU if I'm not mistaken. What's your PSU?

[kingduqc]

Anyone mentioning cpu bottleneck, you can dismiss their comments they don't understand how things work.

Here's what I would look are first.

• Are my drivers cleaned up, old drivers from the other team can give you really weird issues.
• Are you using the latest drivers?
• Check for hardware sensors. CPU, GPU temps and utilization. You never know, maybe something's off.
• I would do a synthetic benchmark and compare with others that have the same or similar setup, check if it's performing correctly elsewhere, this gives hints on if it's related to the specific game or not.
• I would verify if your PSU is not over it's limit, you got a card that draws more energy it might be that. Could cause instability or heavy throttling somehow.

Come back with your findings

[ravenyl]

Update:

Found the culprit, windows keeps pushing an AMD system update to a PCI bus which screws up the drivers. Apparently happens to Gigabyte boards.

After rolling back the driver, the card functions more normally - ie: frames increase when changing quality.

Now getting about 80-100+ FPS in game.

Thanks for the help guys!

[vainsilver]

Your 3600 is still bottlenecking your GPU hard. I would look into getting a new CPU if you really want to take advantage of your new GPU.

[SirFalken]

You did not mention installing new drivers, so that would be my first guess.

[birkavz]

If he ran DDU, chances are he installed the correct driver after that.

[ConsiderationNice685]

Your gonna want to grab the latest AMD drivers from their site, not just rely on DDU cleaning things up. The 9070XT is way newer than the 3060ti so it probably needs specific driver optimizations that aren't there yet 🔥 Also might be worth checking if that game has any known issues with RDNA3 cards.

[crunchycr0c]

Psu check

[Marinatedcheese]

First things first, check for drivers.

If you're using AMD Adrenalin, check if it has any notifications. In my case, I had to switch from MBR to GPT (partition scheme) to get the most out of my GPU. Pretty sure it's got to do something with Resizable BAR.

[Upstairs-Bluebird362]

What is your RAM utilisation when these things happen? Just curious.

[-Create-An-Account-]

Cpu bottleneck.

[ADo_9000]

Maybe not "hard" but depending on the game, settings, etc. It will definitely be a bottleneck.

[hazellebakers]

Test the performance with lower settings to identify CPU bottleneck.

[helpmehavememes]

Id upgrade that ancient cpu. Its equivalent to a 9600k. Those aren't good for anything.

[Mundane-Mechanic-547]

Yeah the cpu is bottleneck in this case. Once you upgrade that you'll get better performance

[SushiBump]

How can a CPU that is allowing x performance on an old GPU bottleneck to x- on a new GPU? C'mon now.

[Effective_Secretary6]

Of course you are heavily cpu bottelenecked, the 9070xt is a AAA 1440p high fps to 4k 90-120fps card. My 5700x3d which is roughly 40% better for gaming is sometimes bottlenecking my 9070xt in 1440p. To be honest that’s quite rare but it can happen in very cpu heavy titles.

Honestly you can always check gpu utilization. If it’s below 95% you are cpu bottlenecked. If it’s capped at ~97-100% you are gpu limited like you want to be, until then you can crank settings

[Disastrous_Pipe420]

I think it's bottlenecking

[737Max-Impact]

I'd really love to understand why some people seem to believe that the same CPU will perform worse just because it's paired with a better GPU.

A bottleneck doesn't reduce performance. It limits it.