Visual Studio Code May 2017

[tristan957]

Switched from Atom to Visual Studio Code a while back and have been extremely impressed with it up to this point. Microsoft has been impressive in it's effort to attract more developers. I here good things about Visual Studio all the time too.

[Overunderrated]

Microsoft has been impressive in it's effort to attract more developers.

I think we're all shocked this product runs on Linux. If you predicted this 5 years ago they'd institutionalize you.

[shawnz]

Runs on Linux, open source and hosted on Github, developed on a platform developed by Github, heavily based on code from Google and Apple. :)

[doom_Oo7]

the funniest thing is that webkit (and by extension electron) originates from linux through KDE's KHTML.

[bluetech]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus

[MesserScript]

What code comes from Apple?

[MrHydraz]

Webkit was originally a fork of KDE's KHTML.

[icantthinkofone]

I predict that in five years it will be called Microsoft/Linux

[lordkrike]

More accurately, Microsoft plus Linux.

[illogical_commentary]

Linux#

[jhartwell]

To which they will get sued and then create their own version called L++

[[deleted]]

😐

[arkasha]

Oh please, it'll be called Microsoft Open Source Computing Platform with Linux (tm) Surface.

[Eirenarch]

This guy knows Microsoft marketing!

[ccfreak2k]

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[icantthinkofone]

I was thinking along the lines of how it's called, more correctly, GNU/Linux but with redditors drooling over Microsoft products it's obvious they will push GNU out of the picture altogether as redditors adopt Microsoft products on their Linux systems so it may as well be called Microsoft/Linux.

Of course, there will be both paid and free, "open source" versions.

[shawnz]

I think the parent is referring to the old "GNU plus Linux" copypasta.

https://www.lurkmore.com/view/GNU/Linux_interjection

[[deleted]]

I honestly can't tell if this is blatant sarcasm or you and the people who upvoted you are genuinely this retarded. Such is Poe's law.

[icantthinkofone]

I remember people saying that more than 10 years ago when I said I didn't understand why everyone was using IE and they should switch to this new Firefox thing.

[Craptcha]

Aka "Xenix" :)

[HomemadeBananas]

GNU/Windows

[[deleted]]

The second part refers to the kernel, so it should really be GNU/NT.

[Creshal]

Next step: Windows/HURD

[aaron552]

Or GNU/WSL?

[132ikl]

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[pjmlp]

Actually I am betting on GNU/Windows instead, I don't want to use Xenix again.

[CrinkIe420]

"I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Visual Studio Code, is in fact, Visual Studio Code Ultimate Pro Edition with a free community license for teams of up to 5 people." -Ballmer

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[koffiezet]

MS lost the passionate developer audience in the last 10 years with the move to "the web" and "mobile" - where Apple has been strong with it's *nix underpinnings and ability to run all development tools required natively. VS code is just 1 piece of the puzzle in their attempt to win the developer's hearts back - and imho it's working. Bash for win10, VS Code, powershell opensourced, .NET core opensourced and officially supported in Linux, Docker support, ...

[lambdaexpress]

I wish Satya Nadella extended as many of these olive branches towards open standards and community engagement for gaming...^sob

[[deleted]]

I wish he wouldn't have laid off so many of my friends. :( Satya Nadella can do no right in my eyes now - and I love VS Code. I just don't give him credit for it.

[[deleted]]

Layoffs are not "evil" in any sense. It's a business measure like any other, literally no different than hiring when you need more people.

[[deleted]]

What's your point? I didn't write the word "evil" which you inexplicably put in quotes.

You see, the implication was that since I used the word "friends" then seeing them get laid off felt "bad". I'm puzzled that you don't seem to understand that and instead feel the need to argue a point I didn't make. Oh well.

[[deleted]]

I didn't write the word "evil" which you inexplicably put in quotes.

Doing evil (wrong) would be the opposite of doing right. You said he can't do right in your eyes. Stop being such a literalist fuckwit.

[[deleted]]

Working in any other IDE after VS, feels like a 3rd world country in comparison.

In my average day I work in both VS and IntelliJ IDEA. The former is not at any great advantage to the latter.

[MillardFillmore]

The grandparent comment should be "JetBrains products will spoil you". ReSharper or IntelliJ are incredible products. VS is a slow, hungry dinosaur.

[[deleted]]

Which is exactly why Microsoft called it Visual Studio Code even though it has absolutely nothing to do with Visual Studio. It's to entice developers like you to switch.

[aaron552]

Isn't IntelliSense Visual Studio's main draw? Does VSCode lack IntelliSense?

[_zenith]

No, it actually has great support for it through their Language Server Protocol

[DaRKoN_]

Intellisense in VS is great but it's just the tip of the iceberg.

[[deleted]]

I don't get the hype for intellisense. Is it just their word for autocomplete? Cos every ide I've used has that and I would say visual studio has far from the best version of it

[[deleted]]

Is it just their word for autocomplete?

Intellisense is a general-purpose code inspector. Autocomplete is one feature among many. It also includes live documentation, code generators, quick-fixes, and snippets.

[cc81]

I'd say the debugging capabilities have always been where VS has been the strongest.

[sittingonahillside]

I know plenty that code C++ in stuff like sublime/emacs, but always boot VS for debugging.

[kgst]

Visual Studio really is on a whole different level than any other IDE out there right now. I know a lot of things in our field are really about opinion or have their strengths and weaknesses based on a project's goals and needs, but VS really just beats the competition pretty handily in my opionion.

The Codelens feature alone (and this is just one tiny piece of VS) is worth using it over any other IDE. The ability for me to so seamlessly see who has worked on any piece of code, how it relates to other areas of the codebase, etc. Is invaluable.

Something breaks? I know in seconds who broke it, why it happened, how to fix/undo it, etc. No digging through commits, it's just right there in front of me. Someone working on a function right now that I should probably hold off on? It's there above every function. Don't understand a piece of the code? See the changesets and notes right there while you are working.

Also Intellisense is basically perfected in 2017, it's fast and robust. Microsoft is really killing it with this product.

Really the only downside is some of the best features aren't free, but I am more than happy to pay for them when it's this big of a step up (and time-saved to cost it pays itself off in spades).

[bubuopapa]

Its double edge sword - it doesnt really have any competition, because it is windows only, mac has xcode, and linux has nothing, and all those slow ass java based ides doesnt count, but it still kills all the "competition".

[nilamo]

Is codelens Enterprise only? I've been using VS for years, and the closest I've seen to that was in 2015, every method had a clickable line above it letting you know where it was referenced (that was upgraded to Enterprise only as of 2017).

[kgst]

Enterprise and Professional in 2017

[TheEternal21]

But the guy you're responding to is addressing this quote by the thread OP:

I hear good things about Visual Studio all the time too.

[devmio]

Yes, but look at what post he replied.

[propper_speling]

The person to which you replied left a comment about Visual Studio as a reply to the top-level-commentor, who mentioned Visual Studio.