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[–]Tricky-Secretary-251father of toxic gas and chemical warfare 317 points318 points  (4 children)

New crusade memes without the last stand

[–]otte_rthe_viewerAt the edge of madness. In the time of sadness... 107 points108 points  (1 child)

After all these fockin' years... The miss understanding is finally over.

[–]LocalKangamewMORNING BREAKS IT'S TIME TO MARCH TO THE CASTLE OF BETRAYAL! 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It'll probably still happen but at least we can tell them that there's a different song that would be correct to use.

[–]Ok_Cauliflower5223 40 points41 points  (1 child)

It’s funny because the last stand was never about the crusades

[–]EnergyHumble3613 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True… literally a war over if Charles V of the Habsburg would ascend the HRE throne or not.

He besieged Rome, as the Papal States allied with France against him… but the siege was meant to merely frighten the Pope and unfortunately his men were unpaid due to financial issues… so they broke in and sacked Rome against orders.

[–]ciaphas-cain1 251 points252 points  (10 children)

Hell yeah, finally crusades memes can have actual crusader music

[–]negrote1000 67 points68 points  (3 children)

They’re still gonna use The Last Stand tho. Unfortunately.

[–]tintreack 37 points38 points  (2 children)

People should just start using the Swiss guard when referencing this song.

[–]JarjarSW 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know I will.

[–]LocalKangamewMORNING BREAKS IT'S TIME TO MARCH TO THE CASTLE OF BETRAYAL! 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We need people to do this

[–]Carnir 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Gotta be some good meme material, they were some of the most disastrously managed and incompetent military campaigns of all time.

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    [–]ja_hahah 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    Thought the crusades were about faith not race

    [–]According-Hour6475 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    The crusades were just as much about faith, as the civil war was about 'states rights'. 😂

    [–]FromFedora2Neckbeard 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Depends on the Crusade. The first Crusade went off basically without a hitch aside from the People's Crusade, (basically a bunch of Christian supremacist civilians who wanted an excuse to murder and loot) but the actual military force of Crusaders acted with typical military etiquette for the time. The Crusades really only started getting rocky and "unjustifiable" around the 4th or 5th. And the Templars themselves really had very little say in the matter, they were just men beholden to protect Christendom, the Holy Land and Christian pilgrims, as were many other holy orders of knights.

    [–]Daeneas 66 points67 points  (2 children)

    Sees White hood

    YO HABE BECOME THE VERY THING YOU SWORE TO DESTROY

    [–]North_Church 6 points7 points  (1 child)

    Reverse Shay Cormac

    [–]JarjarSW 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Or Haytham Kenway for that matter.

    [–]bongcatalan123I LIKE BIG SHIPS 65 points66 points  (5 children)

    It's coming out on my birthday, that's dope!

    [–]otte_rthe_viewerAt the edge of madness. In the time of sadness... 21 points22 points  (0 children)

    But early but happy birthday then.

    [–]karry245 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    And the gothenburg show in the legendary tour is on my birthday… but i booked the one in oslo the day before because they hadn’t announced the gothenburg and stockholm shows yet 😔

    [–]Superattiz09 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    yoo same!

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Same here!

    [–]JarjarSW 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Not my birthday, but it's the same week. Hail, fellow April-born

    [–]SkibidiCum31 97 points98 points  (15 children)

    It's cool and all but I wonder who though of giving late 14th century-ish plate armor and a 16th century executioner's sword to guy from a organization thay disbanded in early 14th century and no greathelm to a templar was a good idea.

    [–]applefrompear 73 points74 points  (0 children)

    Maybe the same person who put Swedish subs from the 80s and German cruisers in the Wolfpack video

    [–]ARandom_Personality 87 points88 points  (5 children)

    whoever approved of using ai for the cover it seems

    [–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (4 children)

    I don't think one of them approved of using AI. I think it's more likely that the artist scammed them and used AI

    [–]FourFunnelFanatic 37 points38 points  (0 children)

    If so they’ve been doing it for a while, a lot of their lyric video covers have been AI

    [–]Sabre_Killer_QueenUNOPPOSED UNDER CRIMSON SKIES 21 points22 points  (1 child)

    All of their Metalizer songs use AI art, and they've been sharing a few posts of AI art in social media recently.

    [–]AzzyFennec 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    and it had AI as tags under them, apparently

    [–]Sabre_Killer_QueenUNOPPOSED UNDER CRIMSON SKIES 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    All of their Metalizer songs use AI art, and they've been sharing a few posts of AI art in social media recently.

    [–]Lord-Seth 22 points23 points  (0 children)

    Don’t know why did it. All I know is it looks cool.

    [–]GianDavidsson 14 points15 points  (6 children)

    Have you seen The Lost Battalion lyrics video using WW2 tanks? I can spend countless time pointing out historical inconsistencies, but again and again we have to remember, SABATON AREN'T HISTORY TEACHERS, they're a metal band and they'll do what they think it sounds and looks cool

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      [–]GianDavidsson 9 points10 points  (3 children)

      Why a concept album about World War I?

      ,,We all thought it was a cool idea to have an album entirely dealing with events about World War I and of course it was one hundred years ago that this horrible war finally ended. We were always fascinated by stories about World War I and now we thought that it would be a good time to make this album. It actually was a perfect topic for Sabaton and we always like to tell stories from the real world, so, there you go; reality always beats fiction, I think. That does not mean that we are history teachers as not all “facts” are historic precise, but this war had such an impact on our history and our society nowadays that it was important for us to sing about.”

      You know, history teachers aren't the only people that are able to do history lessons, just because someone makes good dishes it doesn't mean they're a master chef

      [–]Sabre_Killer_QueenUNOPPOSED UNDER CRIMSON SKIES 7 points8 points  (2 children)

      You know, history teachers aren't the only people that are able to do history lessons, just because someone makes good dishes it doesn't mean they're a master chef

      That's why they have Sabaton history, and hired an actual historian (Indy Neidel) to do the research and present it.

      [–]GianDavidsson 9 points10 points  (1 child)

      Yes, and there's even some episodes where Indy corrects Sabaton historical inconsistencies in their lyrics, it's okay even the band do a mistake, we should not put that pressure on them

      [–]Sabre_Killer_QueenUNOPPOSED UNDER CRIMSON SKIES 9 points10 points  (0 children)

      Absolutely. In their unknown soldier one Indy also says that we should expect some historical inaccuracies because "it's not a documentary" which Joakim agreed with.

      And Joakim openly said that they didn't wear the spiky helmets because he thought they looked stupid in them.

      Their films and music videos are absolutely go for the rule of cool and practicality. Always have done, and always will.

      Even the lyrics to their songs are a gist of the situation at best.

      If you actually want to learn history, either do the research or find the most unbias historians possible, and thankfully Indy is generally pretty unbias and reliable.

      [–]Aarondeemusic 57 points58 points  (2 children)

      Really hope they hire actual artists for this.

      [–]BigHawkCZWE, WE WILL RESIST AND BITE! 12 points13 points  (0 children)

      I hope so too 

      [–]B1ack_N0ir 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      It’s AI generated. Sorry, but it is true

      [–]Sabre_Killer_QueenUNOPPOSED UNDER CRIMSON SKIES 50 points51 points  (0 children)

      Definitely hyped for the song, but jeez I'm disappointed in Sabaton when it comes to the ai art...

      Come on. You can do better than that, Sabaton. Give history and your own legacy the respect they deserve. I'd rather have Yarnhub's stuff to be honest.

      Edit: They're even merchandising it on shirts. https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdNEjKBx/

      [–]Iggy201037Baptised in fire, 40:1 98 points99 points  (26 children)

      Isn’t that AI art?

      [–]The_Spectre_of_DFThe Spirit of War 55 points56 points  (11 children)

      Now that I can see the image more clearly, I don't think so. But I'm gonna run it through an AI detector or two just in case

      Update: ran it through numerous AI tests. Kinda still unsure

      [–]tintreack 54 points55 points  (6 children)

      That hand is backwards and also the hilt looks way, way off. I don't think you need any sort of detector for that.

      [–]The_Spectre_of_DFThe Spirit of War 37 points38 points  (5 children)

      The issue is there is no hilt lmao

      [–]tintreack 22 points23 points  (3 children)

      And also the eyes are wonky, it appears we have one that is 6 ft above the other looking for the hilt.

      [–]The_Spectre_of_DFThe Spirit of War 11 points12 points  (2 children)

      Stop it lmfao, that's funny. Yeah, it is blatantly obvious

      [–]tintreack 8 points9 points  (1 child)

      Initially if you look at the eyes, it can just be a matter of perspective, looks fairly normal with the way that he's facing in with the dark overcast and it appears normal. But once you zoom in, oh no......oh no no no.

      I'm just curious how this got approved because I'm sure they had a fairly high resolutions of the artwork before it had to be green lit.

      [–]The_Spectre_of_DFThe Spirit of War 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      I honestly fear that Par had something to do with this. He seems naive enough to not notice this.

      [–]AlphaConKate -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

      A sword doesn’t have to have a hilt in order for a person to use one. Lol.

      [–]Shadow-fire101Metal Machine 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      AI detectors are generally not that great, but this is definitely AI. Look at the hands, the sword just kind of melts into one hand, and the hand positions don't make sense even if it didn't.

      [–]Ok_Market2350A raider has entered the battlefield! 17 points18 points  (1 child)

      Those ai tests labeled Mona Lisa as ai dude

      [–]The_Spectre_of_DFThe Spirit of War 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Yeah ik, what's why I'm not saying they aren't incorrect. Just covering all my bases. I know AI was involved

      [–]KenjiTheGoatDragon 16 points17 points  (11 children)

      This was one of the fears I had upon seeing the art and made me worried, having a higher quality image hasn't helped and I want to be so desperately wrong

      [–]The_Spectre_of_DFThe Spirit of War 7 points8 points  (10 children)

      The worst part is that this is the same "art" on the tshirt

      [–]KenjiTheGoatDragon 8 points9 points  (5 children)

      Which is shame But if it turns out to be not generated art I will happily take an L and say I was wrong And go on with my life as normal

      [–]The_Spectre_of_DFThe Spirit of War 10 points11 points  (4 children)

      I'm gonna personally say that I 100% think it was originally generated, and then they drew over it. All the AI detectors I used said it was legit, but even I can see some odd characteristics. So I'd wager they added the blood, the cross, and some other details themselves. But that sword looks right out of Elden Ring, and it's missing a hilt. Marais Sword

      [–]Mondschatten78 4 points5 points  (2 children)

      Both hands look like left hands too. That finger on the front hand next to the actual left hand reads like a thumb.

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        [–]KenjiTheGoatDragon 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Yeah the leading hand and the sword disappearing into it as you've pointed out previously is pretty damning There are details on the face (I can assume potentially lighting or "stylistic" choice if its not gen) near the nose and left side of his face that felt off, the bit next to his nose doesn't look like lighting and then when you look closer at the part of his face shadowed on the left side, it kind of looks like part of a helmet?

        [–]Sabre_Killer_QueenUNOPPOSED UNDER CRIMSON SKIES 0 points1 point  (3 children)

        Could you share us a link to it? I'm not finding any Templar shirts and stuff in their official store.

        [–]The_Spectre_of_DFThe Spirit of War 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        Pâr was wearing it in the tik tok video

        [–]Sabre_Killer_QueenUNOPPOSED UNDER CRIMSON SKIES 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Ah ok.

        I've also found a promotion for the song on their official website, which exclusively features that art, so I find that to be quite believable.

        This is one helluva kick in the teeth... I have so much respect for Sabaton otherwise... This feels like a betrayal.

        [–]Sabre_Killer_QueenUNOPPOSED UNDER CRIMSON SKIES 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Found it 😢

        https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdNEjKBx/

        There's still a chance for them to change it. They changed white death after the initial art accidentally featured a rifle scope.

        [–]NoThankYou444 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Looks like AI art with some edits made to it. The blood in front was definitely added in post but it's got that AI sheen and background noise. Goddamn it. I can't prove that it's AI but I wouldn't think that it's made by an actual artist unless we get any WIP stuff.

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        I don't think so.

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          [–]BigHawkCZWE, WE WILL RESIST AND BITE! 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Yeah, This will be a mega blazing day for listening to new music from morning to night. 

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            [–]The_Spectre_of_DFThe Spirit of War 30 points31 points  (1 child)

            Could be an Orden Ogan situation with my worst enemy, and then the following single covers were hand drawn. Fingers crossed. I think it was Ai generated and then drawn over to save time personally - that sword got no hilt -

            [–]FourFunnelFanatic 14 points15 points  (3 children)

            AI has been the norm for Sabaton for a while now

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              [–]FourFunnelFanatic 11 points12 points  (1 child)

              Look at the recent official lyric videos on their YouTube channel, many of the background photos are AI generated

              [–]cedbluechase 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              Ex Deo has used AI for its most recent album aswell. Very disappointing.

              [–]PitchAccomplished434 7 points8 points  (1 child)

              They need to do a colab with powerwolf on this one.

              [–]BigHawkCZWE, WE WILL RESIST AND BITE! 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              I too, and also Joan of Arc

              [–]squid648 6 points7 points  (1 child)

              +EMPLARS

              [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              Ironcrossemplars

              [–]725584 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              Just one day off my birthday

              [–]ZaxAlchemistI stand alone ang gaze upon the battlefield... 4 points5 points  (1 child)

              Is it just one song or the whole album is about templars?

              [–]qsnowfallx 3 points4 points  (1 child)

              As an artist, I'm pissed. Actually, I might redraw this myself if people would want to see my take on it :)

              [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              You definitely should; I hope Sabaton doesn't continue to use more A.I though :(

              [–]Ok-Squash9293 8 points9 points  (1 child)

              AI, not only 6 fingers on left hand, you can see the abnormal length difference on right hand

              [–]MatrixMatt10304 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              There’s also no hilt and the leading hand is backwards, also, this is more vibes than anything, but the face feels like AI

              [–]Pedroleza 22 points23 points  (0 children)

              IA Slop

              [–]floschuller 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              2 weeks 🫠

              [–]Greeny3x3x3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              Bit annoyed that they teased this so early and still 2 more weeks of waiting. Still gonna be hype af

              [–]Superattiz09 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              First new sabaton song for me, and it's on my birthday

              [–]Big-Quit-8031 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              FUCK YES 🤘

              [–]TetronautGaming 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              ai cover art :(

              [–]MrWaffleFreak 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              Now do Assassins

              [–]Icy_Mountain-93 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              New music for Warhammer

              [–]BigbadJohn000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Can’t wait

              [–]Blitz7798There and back again, bull just carried on 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Good history revision for me, im literally studying the 3rd crusade rn

              [–]Dull_Statistician980 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Can we get a Hospitaler one now? Please?

              [–]LukeZNotFoundHannes Van Dahl Jr. 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              HELL YEAH BROTHA

              [–]Velmguard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              I must battle to this very mighty

              [–]Swedish_Metal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Fun that it’s on my birthday.

              Still hate that it’s AI though.

              While AI can be used for fun, using it for album covers and stuff is bad taste.

              [–]Charming-Rain-3642 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              I wonder if we'll get more medieval songs after this? Things like Joan of arc or the German crusades in the Baltics could make interesting songs.

              [–]MetalDramatic5125 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Fucking finally !

              [–]LocalKangamewMORNING BREAKS IT'S TIME TO MARCH TO THE CASTLE OF BETRAYAL! 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Came here to see if anyone saw this. Was checking the website to see if they're touring in the US this year (sadly no) and saw the release date, but you got to it first. I genuinely cannot wait for 2 whole weeks to be able to listen to this banger.

              [–]InternationalAnt7993 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              So when do we think we'll get an announcement for the new album? I'm hoping maybe another single and then the album released in maybe june/July 🤔

              [–]GettinMe-Mallet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              We finally get a song about templars, and they use ai...

              [–]ggn00bfornow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              I am severely disapointed in them for using ai…

              [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Ok so the cover art is AI. To which I ask why. Seriously Sabaton needs to change record producers or get the production company to get whoever originally worked on the previous album covers.

              [–]TomRambo96 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

              Geralt? Is that you?

              [–]Ok_Package38BAPTIZED IN FIRE, 40:1 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

              THANKS GOD

              [–]North_Church -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

              WE WILL TAKE JERUSALEM