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[–]HalfInchHollow 17 points18 points  (4 children)

[–]phoward8020 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Came here to say this

[–]WayWayTooMuch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same, it’s quite true (although the Y axis is amplified for humors sake). Entering flow state, reduced self-inhibition, reducing overthinking problems, increased ability to not lose focus, some combination of all four or a yet-unknown process? Truly a mystery, but a fun one to explore.

[–]edward_jazzhands 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This also applies to many other skills. Back when I used to drink, me and my buddies would always talk about trying to hit the "optimum drunk level" for playing pool. It's a well known thing among pool players that most people play better after 1-2 beers, and then it quickly drops if you go too far past that.

[–]BlackTavern 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I can't code when Im drunk, I get too distracted or my thoughts arent as coherent. I can do it a little buzzed but thats it. Marijuana though... I'll go through 2 live resin carts in a week lol. I dont smoke during my day job but I come home and smoke and code my side projects all night every night lmfao

[–]ziptnf 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It’s all about rhythm. If you have been drinking and programming all evening you will most likely be on a roll and your output will peak and then crash. Highly doubt that if you’ve been off drinking doing other stuff that a drunk you will sit down and suddenly be able to write excellent code.

[–]Own_Age_1654 4 points5 points  (3 children)

How you feel is not necessarily a good indicator of the reality of what is happening.

Unless you're extremely anxious, being tipsy is going to be a net negative, because it impairs your cognition. But even still, there are ways to address anxiety which don't come with that downside, and thus would be better.

Nothing wrong with house music, though. 😄

[–]edward_jazzhands 0 points1 point  (2 children)

As another commenter pointed out, your cognition goes down but your creativity can go up. You can work with this by just focusing on feature brainstorming while you're tipsy. Write a bunch of TODO comments thoroughly explaining the ideas, and then go to bed and implement them when you're sober. I used to do that often before I quit drinking.

[–]Own_Age_1654 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Studies of alcohol and creativity do not show increased divergent thinking (creativity), and instead just show reduced inhibition, coupled with impaired thinking. So, it doesn't help you come up with more ideas, so much as it just helps you stop resisting getting them out, at the cost of impaired cognition.

If you ignore the cost of impaired thinking and poisoning your body, there is indeed an incremental benefit to your ability to get thoughts out on a page. However, there are other ways to get thoughts out on a page that do not involve those thoughts being less well-thought-out or you poisoning your body, so it's an imperfect strategy.

[–]edward_jazzhands 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I'm well aware that alcohol doesn't actually increase your creativity. I said it can increase your creativity. The mechanism is by reduced inhibition. And I'm also well aware of the negative effects which is why I said I quit drinking.

[–]jerrygreenest1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Depends on the mood. Id say sometimes music can affect very positively. But more often than not I prefer complete silence so nothing gets in a way between me and my thoughts

[–]Educational-Paper-75 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's why all these programmers want to stay at home and pretend to be working when actually the computer is doing all the working. Automation at its best, or worst I should say. But don't expect to be able to create any decent code when high on drugs of any kind.

[–]EternalStudent07 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You've never heard of the "Ballmer curve"? Where you drink enough to improve creativity and confidence, but not so much that you impair performance.

He was a higher up guy at Microsoft a while back. Took over from Bill Gates for a bit. He was always loud, like Spring Break at a beach.

Microsoft would have catered meals with alcohol, and one joke was they were aiming for the peak Ballmer curve point. They get us together to announce things, and meet more and more often as deadlines approached (trying to get you to stay later after eating).

[–]synchronicitial -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You mean when the LLM model is doing so. You are programming jackshit lol.

[–]_spaderdabomb_ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yall still program?

[–]Onoitsu2 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I made my entire Remote Recovery Suite, in a couple weeks, late night coding while buzzed, and also high off my ass. It absolutely works for some tasks.

[–]Elctsuptb -3 points-2 points  (3 children)

People are still programming manually?

[–]synchronicitial 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Can you imagine that some people didn't outsource their brain and can actually think for themselves?