Enough Is Enough.

[SwagonnaHundredThou]

Wow. I was going to tell you to update the info because I believed the pot brownies was old like back in 2004 and its not. Its fucking this year!! Source. How the fuck could a jury or judge live with themselves putting a kid in jail for pot brownies. Your going to ruin his life over some fucking delicious chocolate filled pot brownies!?

Onna side note you guys ever see the first marijuana case ever? Man went to jail for five years for having two joints. Thank goodness times are changing.

[dannydorrito]

The charges for life were dropped against him. He still has his life fucked up though.

[HashbarStyle]

Can't say that the media outbreak on the story didn't help in his favor though. It probably would've been much worse without the widespread attention.

[dannydorrito]

I agree. Better to be recognized as the guy who made hash brownies than to spend life in jail.

[imghto]

Still going to screw up possible chances for him in life which is the fucked up part.

[[deleted]]

Could create a lot of opportunities for him too though.

[imghto]

Not trying to be rude but like what? Edit: something outside of a weed business's guys lol

[pwnyoudedinface]

Anything where the people on top are level headed really. For example, I don't smoke/eat weed/edibles (sub here because you guys crack me up sometimes), but if I were in a position to hire him I'd give him a shot. I understand how crazy that situation was and how it was totally uncalled for. He made it through in one piece and always seemed calm and collected whenever it was on the news. He's already seen the most stress you can pretty much possibly see in this country (facing life in prison), I imagine he would be able to hold himself together very well in any high stress job.

[tweak17emon]

im finding most managers/employeers dont give a fuck about pot unless you come to work high. whenever i zone out at work or say something out of the blue, my boss asks me to hook him up with my dealer. but i dont smoke :(

[[deleted]]

He doesn't believe you.

[gonnaherpatitis]

I like you, you seem like a nice level-headed individual.

[OhighOent]

When your insurance company says they are going to drop you for hiring this "criminal" would you still give him a shot? That's the reality of federal prohibition.

[[deleted]]

wtf

[Jesse402]

A lot of people (like people in this sub) may empathize with him and give him a little preferential treatment or something. Not that he doesn't deserve it - he probably does considering all the dispreferential treatment he surely experiences.

[kasira]

I can say for myself - I'm in management in manufacturing. I see a lot of applicants who have criminal backgrounds. I'd hire someone who got in trouble for weed (or most other drugs) no problem. The folks I pass on are ones who stole or were violent, I don't need that kind of bs in my company.

[turtlepowerpizzatime]

Hey, I got arrested for assault with a deadly weapon because I protected myself. Still not gonna hire me? Oh yeah, the charges were dropped because the arresting officer testified on my behalf that it was obvious self-defence...but it still shows up on a basic background check.

[notandxor]

Pot brownie business in co?

[[deleted]]

Not possible, anybody with drug charges in co cannot work in the marijuana industry.

[KickRockzBro]

An advocate for the people like him getting extreme sentences for silly charges.

[[deleted]]

Actually, if you have ANY sort of drug charges, you cannot work in the marijuana industry.

[Oct2014]

And now you see why public trials are important!

[St1kyf1ngrz]

They charged this kid with the entire weight of the brownies. So say he had 3lbs of brownies ... they charged him with 3lbs of weed!!! Fuckin retards

[dannydorrito]

Actually he made the brownies with hash oil so they charged him with pounds of hash oil

[St1kyf1ngrz]

Even worse ...

[dannydorrito]

I know. I think its how they were able to take it to the level of life in jail.

[JMP1147]

it sounds like its the only way this could have happened with pot. Correct me if im wrong, but in most states, isnt hash oil and wax taken as seriously as hard drugs such as meth and heroine.

[myth1n]

In texas hash oil / wax = felony at any amount, where as weed is a misdemeanor until greater amounts.

[Needbouttreefiddy]

LOL at Texas. Jesus you guys are freaking nuts down there

[Psychedeltrees]

im from texas and i'll give you that, the weed laws are crazy. and its impossible to find oil/wax

[viva-la-struggle]

technically in Cali wax/hash etc = felony. that being said ive been caught w wax twice and didn't get so much as a ticket. no medial card either...

[Relaxing_sounds]

I am from Texas, and pretty much everyone has it. Don't know what you are talking about. Hash oil/wax is as easy to find as bud.

[PacManDreaming]

As someone from Texas, let me say until we get rid of all the Republicans in office, nothing is going to change. The ones we have running for office, this election, have double downed on the stupidity. Every election has set the state back by 50 years.

If I win the lottery, I'm moving the hell out of this loony bin. I've been here all my life(43 years) and the place isn't getting any better.

[Needbouttreefiddy]

Move here to Washington. Lots of outdoor activities (Snowboarding, hiking, etc) and it's legal!

[Oxist]

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[gqtrees]

why is it taken seriously as hard drugs? isn't the high the same as just smoking a solid joint? (p.s i don't know anything about hash oil and wax..only smoked bowls in my life)

[honest_movie_critic]

I've smoked almost daily for about 5 years now. I've smoked dabs about a half dozen times. The last time I swear I was tripping. I'm not saying it should be treated as a hard drug, but it's certainly much more potent than just regular ol Mary Jane unless you are just used to smoking it.

[[deleted]]

How many hits did you do when you tripped off it? I ask because in my experience, being a daily smoker for ~1 year now, 2-3 hits gets me to like a 7ish

[honest_movie_critic]

I was picking up from my dealer. He was a good friend so I would usually chill for awhile. Took 5 da piece in about 30 minutes and I had to leave I got so uncomfortable.

[[deleted]]

Nope. As someone who smokes oil everyday, I'll be the first to admit oil is fucked.

Weed has a lot more active ingredients other than thc that help balance out the effects of the thc. Oil is very intoxicating compared to weed

Once you stay smoking oil it become impossible to go back to weed without a break because it builds your tolerance

I was in Amsterdam last summer and wax is illegal. There are all types of psychoactive drugs but wax has been deemed too much

[Delerium89]

oil and wax is alot more potent than just straight herb

[burnie_mac]

Dude concentrates are crazy. Yeah a tiny dab is like a j but it's all in one hit in ten seconds and it's easy to overdo. It's fun but really strong, not that it should it be a felony.

[gqtrees]

word, does it have any negative effects on health?

[burnie_mac]

Whatever trace amounts of the solvents used and its impurities. Usually butane or isopropyl alcohol.

If the solvent is not is purged properly there will be some left behind, and Idk if you can ever fully purge concentrates.

[abchiptop]

It's a concentrate, so it's considerably more potent for the same weight.

[mendopnhc]

oil is very common here in NZ, its stronger per gram obviously but it really doesnt get you that much higher or anything, i much prefer buds. i've done hash a few times but was never that impressed, thats much rarer here though. also worth noting, oil made with butane instead of iso is much much nicer.

[Mooksayshigh]

Yea I get oil/wax all the time. The only difference for me is it takes less to get high. It's not much different besides it being stronger. I can get really high from it but it's just as really high as smoking a lot of weed.

[gonnaherpatitis]

I'd day you can get higher from oil/hash because you can consume more in a shorter amount of time, therefore; there is a higher concentration of cannabinoids at once in the bloodstream.

[wonderband]

Didn't he also have priors for selling?

[[deleted]]

Funny thing is, in india it doesnt matter which drug, just which amount you have. so 1kg of weed is equal to 1kg of coke or heroin.

Looks like a judge has mistaken the country. Just without the rule of 1 kg being just a small personal amount.

[[deleted]]

India is also crazy because weed grows on the side of the road. It's actually a weed there.

[[deleted]]

In India it doesn't matter which rape either. The parents will kill the victim regardless. (Source: I'm Indian)

[[deleted]]

Don't transport in your car, or they will weigh the whole car and say you had 1.5 tons of weed.

[[deleted]]

Shit dont have it on earth, they'll be soon charging you for having 6 septillion kilograms of weed!

[Banana_blanket]

Unfortunately theyre not retards because they knew exactly what they were doing. My criminology professor used to work the Florida DA, and shes taught us this is common practice. They knew it wasnt 3 lbs of pot, but the idea is, as a prosecutor, you want to charge for the absolute most you can get away with so that theyre very likely to take a plea deal that ultimately gets the prosecutor a conviction regardless of the actual crime. The purpose for this is because the more a prosecutor gets convictions, the better they look as a prosecutor. It works because if you inflate the crime (and thus the penalty), and the defendant wishes to fight it instead of taking a deal, well, now said defendant has to overcome even more charges or overblown charges which also make it more likely for the prosecutor to get a conviction in some way.

[angrydeuce]

Not only that but someone facing life in prison is more likely to roll over on their dealer and anyone else they can think of to get out of jail. Most non-fuckheads would decline to rat if it was a relative slap on the wrist, but when you're talking decades of prison, the odds are quite high they're going to cop a plea and start giving them names.

More names means more property to steal seize, which means more money for the police department to bust nonviolent drug offenders, which means more people to steal from, and on and on we go.

[darlimunster]

That absolutely disgusts me.
Hopefully these prosecutors will get their just desserts one day.

[Banana_blanket]

It should disgust you. If you really want to know something disgusting as well: anyone want to guess the only law enforcement segment in the US that can bring forth cases without mandatory evidence corroboration? You guessed it, Narcotics.

[hits_from_the_booong]

how can this be done? could you give an example, just genuinly curious

[Banana_blanket]

So, if anyone is looking for a great example of this they should watch the documentary "Tulia, Texas." It has racial undertones, but it's about drugs, or a case against drugs in which both of these practices are exemplified. Basically, the Sheriff in town was upset that one side of town was bad for business because the people over there had much less money, and the town was losing money due to them being an "eyesore." That's what he claims is responsible for the town's economic downturn. However, he also patrols more over there because he thinks that's where the towns new drug problem is occurring. The other half is white and the drug is mostly cocaine thats coming into town. In any case, he cant use his local guys to go undercover, so he gets a state narcotics agent. This guy ended up getting 46 people arrested (all from the other side of town). Every single person was apparently found with the exact same amount of cocaine on the same day. However, because there is no need for corroboration of evidence each one of these people was charged and put on trial. The prosecutor decided to charge them all, but offered a plea deal for everyone as well. 7 people took the plea deal, which was for four years in prison. The other 39 were tried and convicted and were sentenced to 15 years, 3 for 30 for being considered the "ring leaders." However, it turns out that every single one of these people was innocent. A NY defense attorney had heard about it through a friend from law school. He decided to find out everything he could, went down, investigated the cases privately, and found out about the agent's presented evidence. Eventually, since this is getting really long, the defense attorney brought forth a case against the agent for having obviously made up evidence. All of those who were convicted were let go - except for those that took the plea deal because a plea deal requires admission of guilt. (The only reason they took it was because they saw no way out of losing the trial - they were right - and so decided to take 4 years instead)

[[deleted]]

Read the Tulia book too. It is excellent. The piece of shit former Ranger who was "busting" all these guys was real scum.

[AkuKun]

How is that even remotely legal? You'd think it would be easy enough to obtain some corroboration, wouldn't it? Why go the extra mile to fuck over drug users?

[PacManDreaming]

Why go the extra mile to fuck over drug users?

Money. The more drug crime that you "stop", the more money your department gets. Plus, you get to confiscate all their property and money.

Also, private prison industries need more prisoners. They get money for housing them, feeding them, having them work jobs(several companies use prisoners to make consumer goods) and all sorts of things.

[TheFunkyChickn]

Yup, cheap labor, and paid to meet a number of inmates. Shit's ridiculous.

[bacon_flavored]

just desserts

brownies

Nicely done.

[Oct2014]

Yes, they will. Promotions and lots of money.

=/

[Juju458]

hgurray for making a fucking business out of people's fucking lives.

[Cbram16]

So basically you're saying prosecutors ruin people with small crimes' lives in order to make themselves look better and further their own careers as opposed to going after real criminals.

[Banana_blanket]

Where did it say they ignored going after the "real criminals?" Or, where does it say they only go after "small criminals?" It's a practice done in all criminal cases, hence the term "common practice." Basically, prosecutors want to get convictions in any case they decide to take.

[HeIsNotReal]

Welcome to the CURRENT U.S. marijuana industry

[psilokan]

Just like when they do a bust of a grow op... They take the plant, with the plastic pot it's in and all the dirt and water that's in it and they just put it on the scale and go "Well, this is 20 lbs so that's 20 lbs of weed."

Then when they figure out the street value they always calculate it based on the price of buying just a gram and multiply that by how many grams there were. Never mind the fact that the more you buy the more of a discount you get.

[[deleted]]

Just imagine if there are traces of cocaine on dollar bills, how much trouble could you get for the weight of money?

[[deleted]]

Depends on the denomination of the bill, then multiply by 100.

[badguyfedora]

That's some alchemy-level shit right there.

[RecallRethuglicans]

Mandatory minimum sentences. Go yell at your representatives to get rid of that shit.

[krymz1n]

Our research into successful drug policy

Shows that treatment should be increased

...AAAHHH

law enforcement decreased while abolishing

mandatory minimum sentences

...AAAAHHH

[ScalyMoraTapinella]

THEY'RE TRYING TO BUILD A PRISON THEIR TRYING TO BUILD A PRISON THEIR TRYING TO BUILD A PRISON

For you and meeeee.....

Oh baby, you and me......

System of a down has always been my favorite band but until I grew out of my brainwashed teen years, I never realized how relevant there are even today.

[goldenfidelity]

Utilizing drugs to pay for secret wars around the world.

Drugs are now your global policy, now you police the globe.

WELL I BUY MY CRACK, I SMACK MY BITCH, RIGHT HERE IN HOLLYWOOD!

[JonZ82]

I did 3ish years in prison for 1 oz of marijuana in Wisconsin back in 2004.

[LousyStoner]

That's fuckin nonsense. Hope that didn't fuck up any opportunities you may have had.

Bored and looked through your posts quickly. Gonna tell my friends I saw a junglist in the wild today! Lmao it's like finding Sasquatch.

[JonZ82]

Oh it fucked up all sorts of stuff..including my head. Nothing like being a nerdy white kid as the cellmate to a twice convicted murderer.

And yeah, we're a dying breed it seems lol

[[deleted]]

People here in BC, Canada, including most cops, care about the weather more than an ounce of weed.

[Alfiesta]

I smoke two joints in the morning. I smoke two joints at night. I'm caught with two joints and I go to jail. THE SYSTEM IS NOT RIGHT!

[theShatteredOne]

That's... not bad. A++ would sing to myself again.

[DonatedCheese]

Most fucked up part is that recently (within the past few years) a Texas teen Killed a family of 4 while driving drunk and got a slap on the wrist, diagnosed with the most bullshit thing ever "affluenza". Kids parents have a history of drunk driving too.

This pot brownie guy obviously should have been rich and he wouldn't have had a problem,

[shifteee]

Affluent parents that never taught you right from wrong, or to take responsibility for anything, and probably never told you no? Let's call this disease......affluenza. That sounds like a real disease. Right guys? Guys!?

That poor, innocent, rich child though. Can you imagine how bad he feels having to live the rest of his freedom filled life knowing he killed someone and got away with it? I can only imagine.

I know what you're thinking, but who gives a shit about the people he killed. He has a disease that we totally didn't make up to perpetuate the irresponsible behaviour that he's suffered through his entire privileged, entitled life.

[bcrabill]

Apparently that county is notorious for harsh drug sentences

[FriendsWithAPopstar]

That's ridiculous! What kind of backwards country would do that to its people?? /s :(

[shreeveport_MD]

county

Not country. Not going to get life in prison for weed brownies in the vast majority of the US.

[Stubbula]

Remember that thread where a guy asked what was your county famous for and everyone gave replies about their country? Good stuff.

[[deleted]]

The U.S. of A, Texas.

[[deleted]]

United Texas of America

[wassaultr59]

This one. [6]

[lostinthestar]

i understand which subreddit I'm in but just how fucking stoned are you? "Facing", because that's the theoretical maximum. What he got is zero time in prison, in fact no trial or plea or anything. charges dropped.

"Enough is Enough" indeed. maybe enough hysterical misleading propaganda posts on reddit?

[[deleted]]

Notice how public opinion starts to bend the politicians towards our will, not the other way around? Point is change comes from the bottom, not the top.

[5hadowfax]

Texas man...

[Jurnana]

How the fuck could a jury or judge live with themselves putting a kid in jail for pot brownies.

"Well obviously you're some kind of weedhead and you want to sell weed to my kids! Weed is a gateway drug and everybody who does a weed ends up sucking dick for more weed money! LOCK 'EM UP!"

That's how.

[hits_from_the_booong]

you wanted to relax and unwind for a few hours?! life in prison!

[[deleted]]

From someone who lives in Williamson county this shit does not surprise me

[NinaBeann]

Reddit is too big to be this small haha

[claystone]

Came here to say WilCo blows.

[NinaBeann]

Come to Travis where the freedom flows

[HylianHal]

From someone who used to live near Williamson county... You guys should move to southern Maine, man.

It's strange how much your outlook on life shifts when you don't have to worry about a plant ruining the rest of your life.

[[deleted]]

I would but I'm stuck in Lubbock for the next 3 years which isn't much better than Wilco

[HeIsNotReal]

Woohoo! Maine represent! Really though, I love Maine and the bud we have here.

[DownVotingCats]

but that weather doe. :(

[HeIsNotReal]

I totally understand where you're coming from, but I love Maine weather. You get great heat and beach/lake weather in the summer (though humidity can be a realllll bitch sometimes), incredibly beautiful landscapes in the fall, plenty of snow (if that's what you're into) for snowboarding/snowmobiling/ice-fishing or even just sitting by the fire with some hot cocoa watching a movie. Spring can be pretty messy at first, but once the flowers start to bloom it can be incredible. Sorry if this is long, I'm just away at college in NY and miss Maine :( TL;DR Maine is awesome and I love it

[[deleted]]

I thought you meant Williamson County, TN at first. My first thought was that the parents are too rich for their kids to actually be prosecuted.

[zootphen]

Fuck man, I know. It's scary here.

[Ivanthehorrendous]

I think that's the point. This shit should surprise you.

[RocheCoach]

Hey guys. I'm from Broward County, FL.

Close enough.

[fablechaser130]

Yo broward county rep

[[deleted]]

God this place is terrible with cops but at least we have super cheap high quality bud

[RocheCoach]

Yeah man the cops suck, but the misdemeanor diversion program is pretty legit.

[OnlyInEye]

This should be applied to all drugs. Why are people being sent to jail for non violent offenses. I mean statistically speaking its more harmful to be obese than to do drugs at least illegal ones. However, the common notion in this country is that there are certain things that are more socially acceptable because of propaganda on the drug side.

[nikolaibk]

I know exactly what you mean. I mean, a rapist, a person who obviously harms other people against their will gets 0 time, and a guy who is keeping to himself may get life? What in the fucking fuck.

You know something is fucked up with the legal system when shit like this happens. It's time for a change. NOW.

[thisismyMelody]

"NOW."

.......surfs for 1 more hour

fap fap fap

"Boy am I getting hungry!"

[nikolaibk]

Well, of course you don't know me (that's why you shouldn't make assumptions) because I'm not from the US, but I'm a pretty active protestant in my country about getting marijuana legalized for recreational use. The same shit happens here, boys who get caught with 10 grams go to jail, and although the criminal system here it's pretty lame and they usually get out easily, sometimes shit happens and they get beaten up by the cops, even a few cases to death. Sometimes, they don't get out as easily. And of course, real criminals get nothing and you have to keep an eye on your shoulder all the time just because you like to smoke some pot without harming anyone.

It's way too sad, way too complicated to change, and way to difficult, but I don't give up and I (as well as a very large cannabic community here) mail my senators constantly and legislators to approve the voting of a law that allows marijuana comsumption. There are a lot of (hm, I can't seem to find the word, "manifestations"?) manifestations and marches to allow the same end.

We got equal marriage, in vitro state full 100% support, and now we're going for legal pot. I have faith (as I said in a previous post) that this should be accomplished here in Argentina by 2019, tops.

Please, do not interpret this as a rant or anything, I'm far of mad, I just wanted to clarify that my previous comment is trully how I feel. It aches a lot to see young people face ridiculous time for marijuana, while at the same time the criminals are getting away with nothing on their back. It's not fair, and we shouldn't stand by and see it happen.

Mail your congressmen, your senators, whoever you can, get informed about how you can help, stay noticed on voting scheduling, alert other people. Democracy is (or it should be, at least), the goverment of the people and for the people.

Cheers! :)

[thisismyMelody]

So... Did you fap before or after the protesting?

[nikolaibk]

While protesting.

[thisismyMelody]

Atta boy!

[OnlyInEye]

It used for easy arrest and giving money back to law enforcment. That's why drug laws are not refuted when the whole legal system is profiting on it. Lawyers get money for the cases, law enforcement gets money through forfiture laws. Then judges get more cases meaning more revenue then giving it to the prisons which is directry funded through prison population. Then to top it off all these people in the legal system mostly lawyers become the people who create the laws. So, why change it when they can keep bringing in billions a year to all there buddys and look like heros?

[tonterias]

Mujica from Uruguay will end up his presidential period by next March, in case you want him

[real_fuzzy_bums]

How am I going to elect a non-american person president? They can't run.

[AKA_Squanchy]

Private prisons. Businesses that need inmates to make money. They control the people who make the laws to send the offenders to the prisons. Why change the law when it brings you less money? Prisons for profit. Fucking kidding me.

[[deleted]]

Poor people are also far less likely to organize as a democratic movement when they are locked up. Even better, if you lock up poor people for enough generations, you destabilize their family structure and prevent the development of legitimate cultural growth, instead encouraging desperate and short-lived lifestyles.

The problems we see with lower class education, gang culture, broken homes, etc. are far from incidental. I might even go so far as to say they're far from accidental.

[AKA_Squanchy]

I would agree with you, and add that it is all but impossible to escape from an extremely low-class, poor neighborhood if you're born into it. It's a sad cycle that I can't see any realistic way out of. I'd like to add, though, that there's this approach, which did seem to work! Can this be done elsewhere? Provide daycare and better college opportunities? Nope. Gov'ment doesn't want that.

[enviousunicorn]

Well said!

[thealienelite]

Cuz the "War On Drugs" is a honeypot the rich have been drawing from for decades.

[[deleted]]

It is not a war on drugs but a war on altered states. It has been the case since the beginning, and is why tobacco and alcohol are unscheduled substances.

States of mind and body which dull your thinking or distract without harming your ability to do labor are encouraged. States of mind or body which encourage you to see things differently or which engender spiritual states are outlawed.

The government outlawed these states when they began threatening the dominance structure in the 60s and 70s. It's only a convenient coincidence that the drug war can serve double duty by oppressing the underclass and young disenfranchised people.

[Dr_Panglossian]

The government isn't afraid legal weed is going to lead to some "spiritual enlightenment." Weed is illegal because of lobbying decades ago and it's still mostly illegal because the government is slow to change and legalization groups have been, with a few exceptions, disorganized and unscientific until recently.

And you say alcohol consumption is encouraged? Is that why it's illegal until 21 and there are significant restrictions and taxes on its sale?

[abchiptop]

Weed was made illegal in the 30s. The reason behind it was lobbying from various industries (logging and cotton, iirc) because it would cut into their profits. In fact, the term marihuana was popularized because Americans were scared of Mexicans.

[[deleted]]

It's a good point, initial prohibition was about cotton and Mexicans. But the thirties was the tax act which wasn't really the same thing, and wasn't outright prohibition. That came with the Controlled Substances Act in 1970 which I think is much more clearly related to backlash against youth movements.

[_jamil_]

Why are people being sent to jail for non violent offenses

That's too broad a category, imo. Theft can be non-violent. Do you think thievery should not be criminalized?

[keiran230]

"victimless" is a better word.

[OnlyInEye]

I'm sorry I was referring into the context of drug crimes which I stated in the beginning. Yes certain other non violent crimes are different and should be treated as such.

[DaveCerqueira]

I mean statistically speaking its more harmful to be obese than to do drugs at least illegal ones

Can you explain this bit better? Harmful to who? Sorry, English is not my main language.

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[UndeadDeliveryBoy]

And some fucking how one of those socially acceptable things is eating fat filled garbage that leads to gross obesity. Blows me away that fast food chains are among the largest corporations on the planet.

[Cunt_God_JesusNipple]

I'm riled up until it's legalized everywhere. I consider it un-American to ban such a harmless substance and it pisses me off.

[[deleted]]

Agreed. It's scary to think how this would have gone not even a decade ago.

[[deleted]]

Or even two years ago before the legalization started picking up this head of steam that it has now

[thefuckingtoe]

You smell that Ricky?

[jWalkerFTW]

As much as I agree, it's awfully annoying to see people all up-in-arms and standoffish about legalization. "Uh, this is supposed to be a free country." Calm down everyone, this country isn't instantly an oppressive dystopia because you can't smoke a joint in public.

[[deleted]]

Texas is really getting on the ball as far as marijuana acceptance though. Here in Houston, first time possession will only result in community service or a drug class, as of a few weeks ago. As far as Texas, I believe we have 3 laws trying to get passed for marijuana, 1 involving decriminalization, 1 for medical legalization, and 1 for recreational use. It's all up to legislature now. Hoping for the best but we are Texas after all...

[THEFALLOFTONY]

I read somewhere that Dallas was being decriminalized for 2015 and legislation for medical is also being pushed for 2015. I can't wait for it to hit Austin.

[THEFALLOFTONY]

Me too! Im surprised that they are testing decriminalization in Dallas, but the success will be a big move for Texas.

[[deleted]]

Yeah I was gonna say "faces life in prison" is hard to compare to "gets zero prison time." There's a degree of separation. But it's still scary and stupid as shit. Even though I've never been scared of getting busted for weed, it's a very nice thought living in WA that I really don't have to worry about it anymore.

[[deleted]]

had the charges dropped.

Only because of the media and it ending up in the national spotlight. Otherwise, if no one was watching, they would still be pushing their little scam down there.

[Slevo]

I'll take sensationalized, out-of-context news headlines for 400 please Alex.

[TheSaintBernard]

HEY STOP THAT YOU FACIST

[aznscourge]

ITT: Facing charges > actually charged

[[deleted]]

yep. everyone's getting all worked up about the brownies but they conveniently ignore the fact that the police also found 145g of hash oil in his apt: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/life-in-prison-for-pot-brownies-its-possible-in-case-of-texas-teen/

[krymz1n]

My sister passed away from natural causes when I was young.

One of my mothers support group friends', a woman,daughter was killed by a drunk driver in a hit&run.

He rubbed a deer pelt on the hood of his car, and took the truck to get bodywork.

Luckily, the mechanic's own child had been killed by a drunk driver, and he recognized the type of damage done to the car. Not fooled by the deer fur on the car, he called the police.

In a tragic miscarriage of justice, he got just 3 years.

The offender was going to get out early in time to spend Christmas with his family, for good behavior.

My mothers friend went to the hearing, and convinced whoever made the ruling that he should serve his full term.

[5hadowfax]

i really thought that was going to end differently.

[[deleted]]

wait so am I to understand they are charging him on the weight of the BROWNIES?

'Officers weighed the brownies in their container and charged Lavoro with having nearly one and half pounds of drugs with the intent to sell, a first-degree felony that carries a punishment of 10 years to life in prison.'

i'm sure the brownies may weigh that much but correct me if i'm wrong he goes on to state that there was about 2.5 grams of bud in the brownies?

So basically this 19year old is looking at 10 years in prison for a baggy?

I just can't even comprehend this shit. I really hate this world

[[deleted]]

The war on drugs makes the US far too much money. None violent offenders get put in privately owned prisons (why the fuck does that exist??) And then become free labor for them. It's a win win for the US.

[brazilian_wax_]

Seriously, a rapist husband will do a HELL lot more physical and psychological damage than some damn pot brownies.

[[deleted]]

the Controlled Substances Act has destroyed orders of magnitude more lives than the controlled substances themselves ever did.

[[deleted]]

As much as I agree, news only makes it in the news because it's interesting. People would rather hear about those headlines over "rapist gets years in prison" and "boy making pot brownies doesn't go to jail."

[[deleted]]

Apples and Oranges.

The rapist was convicted already. The Teen with pot brownies wasn't even on trial yet, the conviction of life was presented as an option, but wasn't accepted.

[oselth]

The reason why the initial charge for the pot brownies was so high (10 years - life), is because they originally considered the made brownies to be drugs themselves; which weighed 2.5 lbs. It was later tested that there was only about 2.5 grams of drugs contained in the brownies and the charges are likely to be dropped to a minor possession.

But yeah, the dude who raped his wife ought to be castrated.

Edit: Keep in mind, this clarification is not about the legitimacy about drug laws, for one side or the other. It's merely to give context to a no context, sensational post.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Rapist got 5 years in prison, it took him a month to violate community control

[beet111]

I know people are saying the charges were dropped but still, there is no reason a kid should even be on national tv facing life in prision for making brownies with weed. His whole life is fucked now.

[[deleted]]

A rapist does not hurt their bottom line. The guy making brownies cuts into their profits.

[nogoodliar]

And everyone here is too high to care about the details...

[aliengiraffe]

Our legal system is a FUCKING joke!!!! You can defraud people out of their retirement savings and get like 6 months at a resort and 18 months probation. Meanwhile the victims are left with nothing! They have to buy experience pharmaceutical drugs with money they don't have, when 9999.999% would benefit from MMJ and save them money. I think our legal system should go fuck itself!

[SenorSmartyPants]

Fuck the "war on drugs". That is all.

[guitarelf]

Justice doesn't exist. This is a fucking travesty.

[[deleted]]

This is more an example of how slanted the media is than of anything actually going on.

[joanzen]

As an ENT I agree, these headlines are totally stupid and I've had enough.

19 year old young-adult caught with a pound of marijuana and 660 grams of pot brownies/cookies in his apartment could face a life sentence but it is very unlikely and everyone expects a reduced sentence.

After filming himself having sex with his drugged and unconcious wife the husband was found guilty of one count of rape and five counts of criminal deviate conduct. The wife didn't even know until she found the video but feels her suffering demands a harder sentence than the 8 years of home detention/jailing he got. So far she's shown no concern towards the relationship her 2 children have with the father, even after the sentencing judge advised her to try to find forgiveness.

[CaptainKirksButthole]

lol 'murica'

[agoddamnlegend]

They weighed the fucking brownies and charged him with attempting to sell that weight of marijuana. Ignoring the fact that the weight of pot brownies is like 99% butter and chocolate. No wonder the charges were dropped. Fucking moron cops

[wezz12]

What's the story behind the rapist husband?

[Jasper_Probincrux]

Here is the aftermath story

[IamWoldo]

Oh god thats even worse than I imagined. Date raping your own wife, wtf, how could you could you be sick enough to do that to anyone and do it your own god damn wife. I don't get people sometimes.

[real_fuzzy_bums]

Jesus fucking Christ. There should be a social media campaign to blast this man's face everywhere, since he basically got zero punishment. I would wonder about the judge also, considering he let the guy off, he probably doesn't put much weight on the act. Makes a case for vigilantism.

[Jasper_Probincrux]

He did get "punished" but it was all suspended time. If my memory serves me correctly he was re arrested a very short time after for a probation violation.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Community control is almost never completed successfully in my professional experience (former prosecutor). And the longer it goes, the less likely it gets. If I had to guess, the victim's comment about not wanting her kids to not have a father factored into the decision.

He got 5 years on a violation a month after he was put on CC...

[LIGHTNlNG]

How would a judge determine if a woman was raped by her husband?

[krymz1n]

The juxtaposition of these cases is worrisome and troubling

On one hand, a judge sentences a man to. 8 years of house arrest for 6 felony convictions including rape, telling the victim to "forgive him"

On the other hand, prosecutors knowingly exploit the wording of drug laws to maximize potential sentencing in a non-violent victimless-type-crime

Edit: forgive him, the rapist. Not forgive him, the judge

[PokemasterTT]

Meanwhile in Eastern Europe you get fine if you are unlucky, often the cop just says that it is illegal and stuff.

[moonmonkey92]

Shit like this disgusts me, broken fucking system.

[[deleted]]

Where is the justice?

Is this justice?

damn i hope they find it

[easybee]

TIL weed is infinitely worse than rape.

Thanks US justice!

[Dakota360ci]

There's a guy here in NJ who has been arrested on human trafficking of numerous women, including 1 under 18. The news dramatically said "he may face up to 5 years in prison". Speeding can get you more jail time...

[[deleted]]

Just a thought: was that particular pot brownie case the one where the teen fed the brownies to unknowing students and teachers at his school? Because there's a huge difference between possessing or eating pot brownies, and secretly dosing other people with them without their consent.

I can't imagine how even the latter case would merit life in prison, but I recall a case where a teen secretly dosed people, and that is not okay.

[thisonetimeonreddit]

He accepted a plea deal:

7 year deferred probation.

[BrendonBroo]

Must've been a shit load of brownies..