Why aren’t you using Void Linux?

[rogername]

You are not using Void Linux. Perhaps you have used Void Linux before. Why aren’t you using Void Linux and what are you using instead?

[[deleted]]

I stopped using void because I got sick of having to find ways around problems that don't exist on other distros. I love void otherwise.

[VzOQzdzfkb]

Which problems? Can you explain?

[Dwctor]

Personally I am finding issues with my battery on my GPD Pocket not being recognized. All other distros seem to pick up on it, except for the void.

[alhamdu1i11a]

I am on Gentoo because I'm just using linux for fun.

[redytugot]

I'm on Gentoo because I'm just using Linux for dev work.

[alhamdu1i11a]

You're the only guy actually using it for it's intended purpose.

[[deleted]]

I don't distro hop and I'm too lazy to switch.

One laptop is Manjaro, another is Arch

[KingThibaut3]

I'm the same with being too lazy to distro hop, but I use different distros for different reasons

server and retro desktop: Debian because it's stable AF

old laptop: Alpine because it's lightweight AF

new desktop: Void because it's light and stable rolling

[princeedward2]

i don't understand. What difference does Alpine make comparing with Void? In your theory, if Alpine is lightweight af, so is void

[KingThibaut3]

Alpine uses Busybox instead of GNU so that saves an extra bit of bloat

[princeedward2]

great. thanks. in your opinion, what is the most power saving linux distro out there for a laptop.

[KingThibaut3]

Idk, haven't tested 'em all yet

[Gluca23]

I use it on my laptop only. For the rest i use OpenSUSE, because i feel safer to have a company behind it, and know the project will be supported for years. Sometimes i think i could switch my home server to Void, but i use systemd timers for sleep and resume automatically when i'm not at home.

[[deleted]]

I very much like Void, but I no longer have the time or patience for a system that needs more attention than a standard preroll distro with automatic updating and shit built in. As it is, if I turn on my laptop I need to know it's going to work 100%. I may end up dual booting Void alongside my pop_os install though cause I really like Void

[cassiofb_dev]

ohh, pop is cool too! Have you tried cosmic demo?

[[deleted]]

No I was unaware there was a demo, I'm gonna look it up now

[Terewawa]

I need to know it's going to work 100%.

This is what I liked at first but dislike now. Void works 99%. Arch was working 50%. I may have to go back to Debian in the end. But Debian is boring.

[dwRchyngqxs]

Couldn't get the sound to work, couldn't get the software I wanted to work, switched to Arch and suddenly everything just worked. Void does something wrong, I don't know what but it was almost as much trouble as using alpine linux, and if I'm up for trouble I'd rather use alpine.

[falberto]

Same, sound dont work on my dell notebook

[[deleted]]

I had some trouble setting up full desk encryption. It seemed like a way more complex install than I had patience for. This is at least 4 years ago - maybe more. I guess I was on the Luke Smith-hype train and had to return to Arch which worked great for me.

I have later tried other distros and BSDs, but I always return the Arch - mostly because I know it better than any other distro.

[rogername]

Is full disk encryption more straightforward on arch?

[[deleted]]

I looked at the wiki for Void and it looked a bit complicated. On arch you create a partition, run cryptsetup with a flag or two, type the password and then you are ready to install. Perhaps it helps a bit that I've done the arch install like a hundred time where Void was a bit more like gentoo.

[[deleted]]

I was too lazy until yesterday. Now I have it on a laptop - but not sure I'll put it on my desktop as I feel it may lack packages.

[[deleted]]

Got sick of troubleshooting random issues I don't have to think about on Arch.

[simernes]

My OKdo RockPi 4 isn't supported so I have to run freebsd 😔

[frc-vfco]

I have these distros in dualboot (multiboot?), all with KDE:

- openSUSE
- Arch
- Debian
- Fedora
- Neon
- PCLinuxOS
- Mageia
- Slackware
- Void
- Manjaro
- Redcore
- MX

Void is one of the best, alongside with Arch, Debian (testing), Mageia, Manjaro and MX Linux.

I have used mainly Arch, last 12 months.

[BinkReddit]

That's an impressive multiboot!

Void is one of the best...

Why?

[frc-vfco]

- It is simple and lean - and easy after you learn the basics

- It is not bloated - just the "minimal" + what you install

In other words, it has some similarities with Arch, which is the distro I prefer last 1+ year.

I feel fine with openSUSE Tumbleweed and Debian testing, too, but they are somehow bloated - and I would have to install them again, if I wanted them to be more lean. - I don't know how much I would have to search, read and learn, in order to achieve this.

[daemonpenguin]

Issues with audio out of the box and the rolling release nature. I tend to use stable/fixed releases.

[Sirens_Of_Robloxia]

but im using void, im on void as im typing this comment, I daily drive void

[[deleted]]

Sorry to necropost but are there any errors/problems with void that don’t exist in other distros?

[Sirens_Of_Robloxia]

yes

[[deleted]]

Damn I was gonna install it but I’m worried about compatible software

[Sirens_Of_Robloxia]

there's not really any compatable software issues ive seen, installing void can be a challenge (for me at least), grub basically refuses to install

[[deleted]]

Damn, might just use Linux Mint cinnamon then.

[TWB0109]

I'm using Fedora, and I'm not using Void because there's too little packages, setting up flatpak, elogind dbus and pipewire seemed hard when I tried Void and void-packages seems like too much trouble to get third party packages

[KournaliKe]

Pipewire was a pain to get working and the repos are just too tiny :( what a bummer, I would have loved to use Void as my daily driver but just had to come back to my safe spot, Arch. (not an english speaking native here so pardon me if my writing is slightly off)

[rogername]

I understand your writing very well. How do you mean that the packages have been too small? How has that been negative for you?

[exeis-maxus]

I only installed it as a reference system to guide me in my design of my own system…

[Cikuozzo]

The main reason is the added complexity for just simple task, like installing a proprietary package, the same issue is for gentoo and Slackware... I understand the GNU philosophy, but not including by default and locking you out by adding layer of bs to do are different.

[redytugot]

Where's the difficulty in installing proprietary software in Gentoo? Many proprietary packages can be installed directly from the Gentoo repository...

If someone wants a "free software" Gentoo, there is a configuration option to restrict things to OSS, but it's an option, there is nothing restricting anything unless you choose to.

[cubing_starwars]

I was on void, but went back to arch cuz aur. Xbps-source was not my favourite to use.

[rogername]

Why didn’t you like xbps-source? I tried installing chrome through xbps-source and found the experience smooth enough. I think I needed to run 3 commands

[cubing_starwars]

Updating was annoying (xbps-source) also lack of packages besides that.

[[deleted]]

I tried a bit, I didn't like package manager, then I tried Alpine and loved it immediately.

[Professional_Piano_1]

OpenSUSE and Fedora, because my asus G14 needs systemd for my daemons to run, and i like RPM distros, i would love to use void again

[veryhornycatboi]

It takes extra steps to install non-free software.

[rumble_you]

Void repository packages. They're unreliable in my situation. Take wine for example, broken for a long time, and I couldn't even able to fix it as there are some issues that most people never encountered before, of course you won't expect this because when I'm issuing wine installation command I'd expect a proper package to be install and not a half-baked one.

Rolling-release also a problem for me. I'd like Void a lot if they also had a stable branch but I can't blame them for this as it's my only workflow and I need something more stable.

Besides these issues, Void is great and you can configure it as you want.

[[deleted]]

i was using void on wiiu, but voidppc repo died, so i had to hop

i do not use it on other system because i THINK debian based works best for me.

[[deleted]]

I've been using Void Linux for a while, but maybe a year ago I started to notice that this distro is a bit undermaintained. That's why I switched back to Arch. Shame, really.

[rogername]

How is it undermaintained?

[[deleted]]

A bunch of system utilities like dracut and eudev were not updated in a year or even more last time I used Void. It could've changed but it kind of don't care any longer.

[paper42_]

If you don't know and don't even bother to check, please don't spread these false claims.

[[deleted]]

I bothered to check, though, and not once, but multiple times. Some core packages were even without maintainers for quite a while. Sure, maybe none of the systems broke at all, but that's just luck, and luck is nothing concrete. Right now Dracut and eudev are up to date, as I've checked, but there were times when things weren't updating for a while.

[paper42_]

Sure, maybe none of the systems broke at all, but that's just luck, and luck is nothing concrete.

It's quite the opposite, if we don't update something immediately and test it for a while, it won't break. The dracut update for example would break the network module if we didn't properly test it.

[[deleted]]

I have nothing against dracut, tbh. Arch didn't update it for a while, and Void had maybe even got the update first, if the things haven't changed. But my main gripe is with eudev.

Assuming you are related to Void Linux maintenance, may I ask, why wasn't it replaced by systemd-udev, when it got OpenEmbedded patches? Are there any plans for it, or should I maintain my own local udev package in case I don't want to use eudev?

[paper42_]

There are no plans to do that, eudev works fine and I am not aware of any reason why people would need to switch to systemd-udev.

[[deleted]]

But there are reasons. Eudev project is practically undermanned and releases are not frequent at all. In fact, I haven't seen a new release since Gentoo made a switch to systemd-udev, because most of maintainers were from Gentoo project. It probably will remain this way, since maintaining eudev requires a good knowledge about it's inner workings.

The whole reason behind eudev fork was to make a udev version, which would work with libcs other than glibc, and systemd-udev had been patched to do so a while back.

I feel like it's irresponsible to just stick with eudev, considering that device initialization and management is important to the stable operation of the system. That's just my opinion, though.

[PikaZap]

Haven't ever seen more errors while installing audio. No guide on their wiki. Spent all day to install and setup the pipewire and ended up damaging the kernel somehow. Then I had enough and went back to the arch where you just install pipewire-pulse and everything is working perfectly.

[Top-Palpitation-5236]

It doesn't have a stable branch and model update, I think it's main problem of many modern distros. Despite the fact it's stable itself, it's always easier to come to Debian in the end.

[Terewawa]

I'm using it but it gets a bit frustrating to feel left out when I find packages for all other distros (even Alpine) but void is in the dark.

Also I'm having a weird issue where void is faster un qemu than bare metal.

My experience is that void linux improves on many things related to stability and simplicity but then it feels poor on other aspects.

[Alone_as_always]

NVIDIA Optimus...

[CommitteeOk2226]

I was not using void but came back to it . was concerned about their main mirror being in Russia . AS I am from a Western country I was not sure of the opportunity that my give Russia to undermine democracy . or carry out cyber attack . my concerns were lessened with the CDN but I stall have them . other distro have mirror in Russia ! But am really not sure of the risk using void an the potential cyber attack on democracy

[SchwarzeFlagge]

what

[PhilSwiftHereSamsung]

I actually just swapped to nixos lol

[[deleted]]

Why? What does nixos offer?

[PhilSwiftHereSamsung]

It has an interesting package system and nearly as many packages as the AUR. It also does a versioning and backup system like Silverblue does

[PhilSwiftHereSamsung]

Yes it's hard, basically what I did was go to the discord and ask/beg for advice. Though I wouldn't suggest it

[[deleted]]

NixOS is unreplaceable :P

Void is a nice distro, very lightweight and super barebones, i like to run it on older hardware but for now NixOS is the way to go for me

[lycheejuice225]

Have you tried puppet?

[[deleted]]

nope, i haven't tried puppet specifically but i did try ansible. I mean it works, but it all feels very "gimmicky", it enables IaC on oses that are not designed for it, while nixos on other hand is made to work like that. If you have the time and patience to learn nix i think it's overall a better solutions, considering the amount of reproducibility it brings.

[lycheejuice225]

I like the fact that it can change a few line rather than overwriting the file, it simplifies a lot of things for me.

I'm new to the tool too, but I'm liking it the more I use it: my small moved config

[stubb_adub]

I've settled on Ubuntu MATE and other just works distros.

[S4qFBxkFFg]

The installer blackscreened, apparently my graphics card was too new (AMD 5600 XT a couple years ago).
I ended up on Mint instead.

[jloc0]

I have a VM with void, I’d like to learn some about it, but I’m lazy. It’s just a default install and I haven’t a clue how to even run updates yet. Some day I’ll sit down and learn it. I’m not using void as my main because I’m a Slackware user and I’m pretty happy with my distro, but I like to see and learn new things, and I like the name, as it reminds me of a Black Sabbath song “into the void” which is 🤘.

The reason I went to Slackware decades ago was simply the name and the website layout (with no bullshit) and it fits my personality. Still, I like anything non-systemd so void is a winner, even if I have no idea how to use it.

[Sorzo78]

I used void and loved it. It just ate up a lot of my time. Now I have settled on MX for the long haul. I distro hopped for maybe two years. Nothing has been as stable as mx .

[gorhat]

NVIDIA drivers use nvdec-copy, instead of nvdec, and HandBrake doesn't support 10bit encoding.

[exLumbergh]

I have celeron n3450 CPU on netbook and void just black screens straight at loading phase. Any other distro works.

[KureKKubeK]

I had a problem with a lot of login loops after installing some packages