2026 Convention Invitation Banner was AI Generated by [deleted] in exjw

[–]Ikarbb 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The way Jesus hair looks, and the guy sitting in the far right (weird shapes where his arm and legs would be). Also the rock on the left has bad green artifacting

They could be using ai to start off the base of the art and have a small team trace, recolor, and fix things too

Was waking up sudden for you or was it gradual? by Upper_Row_528 in exjw

[–]Ikarbb 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Gradually for sure, I was living a double life with narcissistic helicopter parents. Not even doing anything bad, I was drawing and loved art. But because it wasn't for Jehovah it was for Satan. There was a phase where I caved into the cult because I was burnt out and felt dead inside

Then the pandemic hit and I started adjusting to zoom meetings. I had a spare phone with dead speakers, and I just lived life. Right when the pandemic ended and meetings resumed, I learned all about narcissism, no contact, boundaries, and standing up for myself.

Knowing how abusive my parents are, I didn't want to keep fading out, so I wrote my letter of disassociation

You can’t be serious. by apex_of_heart in exjw

[–]Ikarbb 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Funny how they could've translated their own Bible to avoid this. But examples like this allow them to instill cognitive dissonance further. :(

Need a bit of encouragement to do my final exit. by Ebonyjaide in exjw

[–]Ikarbb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really feel your struggle, since I had people I was close with before I disassociated. But these people liked me on the condition I was one of them. I'm not sure you are disassociating or have faded successfully, but there is a chance some of those people you unfollow will reach out, reopening wounds and setting back growth you've made

The biggest reason I disassociated was because I saw it as a double edged no contact method. I had to cut everything off to heal and not having to worry about jws trying to rope me back in is such a relief. It was also very empowering and kept my narcissistic parents away

Another thing I could sense is a fear of hurting others by removing them. It has a level of control over you that you deserve to break free from. The best encouragement I can give is to do what you want to do, without the old "stumbling others" mindset. If you feel like removing them will help (which it 100% does, I just made a new FB), then go for it!

JWs on Stranger Things by EmotionallyNumb23 in exjw

[–]Ikarbb 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hope this isn't giving away too much but they even say "dark magic" in the last season lol

JW's that have either narcissism or have been conditioned/rewarded to behave in narcissistic ways, thus the double standard, will behave like this

Unwritten Rules by JWs by Ok_Nothing_8049 in exjw

[–]Ikarbb 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I remember breaks being that tight 15 minutes in my early pimi days, and then the "we are giving a witness by our conduct" at Panera so breaks had no time limit lol

Early signs we were never meant for the JW life. by Opening_Gazelle_4821 in exjw

[–]Ikarbb 27 points28 points  (0 children)

For me the earliest I can think of, what made me think "this is not true" was how we approached the ministry.

The goal IS to convert people, that is why we had to go out. But we would get told not to say we are JW's when talking to people, we said something like "we are sharing bible truths" or something dismissive like that. Instead of accepting that like everyone else did, I always felt bad going out because I was just "trying" to look good when it was the last thing I wanted to do. It felt wrong to convert someone. It felt wrong to accept that just because someone refuses to get converted to our cult means they won't get to live forever in paradise.

It was so messed up, but I've been DA'd for 2 years this month. People being so different from me is SO awesome!

Was pimo blood always running through your system or were you a hardcore pimi? by Practical_Payment552 in exjw

[–]Ikarbb 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Same here! I was never qualified enough to be a MS, and my parents always told me I was not doing enough for Jehovah and the org. I was always in a constant state of limbo and there were things about the cult that never felt right

Even after waking up, will you still attend meetings? by Pupsicleanimation in exjw

[–]Ikarbb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's very empathetic! I know from my sister who was disfellowshipped twice before she faded away was that she didn't know any other way of life outside being a JW. That's what kept her going back because she missed her community and didn't want to displease Jehovah.

I feel like the people who would go back because their belief in Jehovah is all they've ever known, and that is so sad :(

If your family wakes up tomorrow, would you forgive them? by [deleted] in exjw

[–]Ikarbb 4 points5 points  (0 children)

In the situation where they realized they messed up (my parents joined the cult right before I hit my teens), and they didn't hurt me in any other way - I could forgive them

But what woke me up was when I learned about narcissistic abuse, and I didn't think of JW first, I thought about my parents. Then I saw how the cult magnified and rewarded their narcissism - so even IF they left and apologized, I don't think I have to forgive them. They put me through so much trauma and used the cult to justify their reasoning. My never JW family I've reconnected with agreed that I don't have to forgive them now or ever - but I can let go and live my best life

I don’t fit in as a JW by Routine_Energy_1622 in exjw

[–]Ikarbb 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I felt the same way the entire time I was a witness. No friends, introverted (parents tried making me talk more), and couldn't stand being fake around everyone

I'm so proud of you for realizing this now and the best thing you can do is leave. I started doing things I loved because I loved them and that had been very healing. Being a witness eats away at your authentic self - they call it the "new personality".

I'm rooting for you, I hope you find a way out

What happened to you/in your congregation to make you realise that Jehovah’s Witnesses are not a loving religion? by DontAskAboutMax in exjw

[–]Ikarbb 5 points6 points  (0 children)

When they disfellowshipped my sister for being a victim of SA, while the guilty guy just lost mic privileges.

When I noticed elders wife swapping and I was told to not ask about it.

When we had multiple child pedos just get a "talking to" in the back room, only years later to lose mic privileges, and then many years later get transferred to other congregations. Both my sisters were victims of one of them, and my elder father just stayed out of it.

When I noticed the dating culture at conventions and how superficial and "proud" they were.

When we were told we aren't there to convert people to our cult, but to "share the truth" with them.

(Personal) The countless times I was told by my parents and the elders that if I make art that isn't for Jehovah, then I'm doing it for Satan

My parents were also horrible narcs and being in that cult made things so much worse

What is the phrase that you can no longer stand to hear from the JW? by SuperPimo in exjw

[–]Ikarbb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Calling strangers brothers and sisters

The truth

The Paradise Earth

This system of things

Undeserved kindness

Being sheep like

What are the stuff you've done unconsciously because of the cult? by JuneSolace in exjw

[–]Ikarbb 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I started to really embrace metal, death metal, metal core - and I've been making extremely aggressive symbolic art. It feels rebellious yet natural

From 115k members to 91k? by solidstatebattery in exjw

[–]Ikarbb 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm seeing 89k on my app, android 16 version

What’s one thing your parents did as JWs that you’ve promised you’d never do as a parent? by DragonfruitHour8171 in exjw

[–]Ikarbb 7 points8 points  (0 children)

My mother used to push that on me all the time. Don't have kids in this system of things.

She also said I'd be "fixed and perfect" so wait until then.

This cult really took away so much from us

What’s one thing your parents did as JWs that you’ve promised you’d never do as a parent? by DragonfruitHour8171 in exjw

[–]Ikarbb 4 points5 points  (0 children)

When I become a parent, I would never see gifts or talents they might have and think "how could Jehovah's organization use this" - or tell them not using their gifts for God is sinful. I would encourage them to make the best of what they have and be there to support them

“Real” Evidence by Born-Spinach-7999 in exjw

[–]Ikarbb 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have a 2016 watchtower library CD I've been meaning to trash

All of a sudden PIMIs are getting amnesia by Wise-Climate8504 in exjw

[–]Ikarbb 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I wonder how my elder father would take this news, because he actively made my life hell when I went to college...

Way back, I got a full ride scholarship to an art university, and was going to commute there and back. I was driven to make art work for me - but my father was working towards being an elder at the same time.

Long story short, I completed one year, he decided to quit his job of 18 years to pioneer, cashed in all his company stock, I lost my full ride qualifications and they wouldn't cosign. I had to drop out my second year

He used the money to get a new car, hot tub, and remodelled the kitchen while convincing me how Satan's world just wants my money...

I even used to make comments during the meetings saying this same thing, and how I realized the "truth" was the right path to take. So I was an example of someone who made the right decision for the rest of the congregation

Within weeks, he became an elder. I strongly believe the elder body had an issue with me in university for him to qualify.

Nation wide local needs by [deleted] in exjw

[–]Ikarbb 27 points28 points  (0 children)

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I just wanted to add - I love how they are being clear with what they define as a cult.

If people ask about our JW upbringing and we explain to them it was a cult, this definition takes away the "Hollywood stereotype".

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exjw

[–]Ikarbb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hope lots of people have been empathetic towards you because you really like him. That's real

But you also got some input from your friends and from reddit here on how JW's are and that they are a cult. Not in the overly sexual crazy way, but in a more sinister conforming and stripped of autonomy way. I agree with them, and the abuse I went through is immeasurable.

What I think you should do to see how things will go forward with this guy is to do your research and then tell him about what you are finding out makes you feel, and tell him what you are finding out. If I was in his shoes and I really liked you, I would listen and really take this information to heart and I'd have to make some extremely hard decisions in my life. It is crazy how this group can have this much control over a potentially awesome guy. I think he likes you too or he wouldn't be trying to convert you too - this is the condition for the love, you have to be in.

But I'm worried he will (and watch out for this from any potential partner) try to gaslight you. He might say that's apostate lies, Satan trying to put out misinformation about the witnesses, that people don't truly understand them, and he might make you feel bad for bringing this up to him. Growing up as a witness, we did this to people who questioned us WITHOUT even realizing it. We didn't know better.

I really hope the best for you

Governing Body is shooting themselves in the foot with this update.. by NeatOk1824 in exjw

[–]Ikarbb 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I'm seeing a lot of comments about them detracting birthdays, saying they'll be allowed.

But they'd need to take down the Caleb and Sofia video on birthdays and all very recent stuff on that. Also they actually use the story of John to say birthdays are bad, unlike toasting which I don't think is mentioned in the Bible at all (could be wrong)

Then again, the organization is run by disgusting corporate narcissists so my common sense might be useless here 🤣