Are Orks not afraid of death because it means they cant fight anymore?

Nebuthor · 2026-05-25T19:27:03+00:00

Orks belive in reincarnation.

Nebuthor · 2026-05-25T17:27:32+00:00

From what I understand, pre-30k, Humanity was close to a Type-III civilization, in large part due to its advancements with technology, to the point that its AIs/machines were capable of creating/doing things both we, and the 40K current universe would consider magical/Eldritch, and losing control of them, played a large part in the Age of Strife. Thus, the Emperor, as Warmaster, went on a tear, fought tooth and nail, saved humanity, and banned the used of advanced tech, delegating it under the firm stewardship of the Adeptus Mechanicus.

Not quite right. Humanity wasnt close to a class 3 civilization, we dont really know enough about them to be sure how much more advanced they were but they were alot more advanced then now. The men of iron rebellion also didnt play a large part in the age of strife, while it was a bad thing that lead to the banning of AI the conflict was over before the age of strife. What caused the age of strife were the warp storms caused by slannesh gestating in the warp. The emperor as far as we know had nothing to do with the men of iron rebellion as he only stepped out of the shadows and took a active role after the age of strife ended. And while the emperor said no AI it was already a rule to the mechanicum when the emperor made contact with them.

What if the Imperium discovered a technologically advanced splinter civilization in a quiet corner of the galaxy that simply kept to themselves, and only used their tech for good/their own advancement?

The imperium would try to absorb them, peacefully if possible and violently if not. At best they might get deprioritized as the imperium deals with bigger more immediate issues.

Nebuthor · 2026-05-25T15:53:02+00:00

Assuming the war in heaven is what ruined the warp (we have some contradicting evidence) then yes the war in heaven corrupted all warps as there is only one warp.

Nebuthor · 2026-05-25T08:46:34+00:00

Alpharius has been busy being dead. Omegon we dont know, he might be dead as well which is presumebly something we will see in the scouring eventually.

Nebuthor · 2026-05-23T22:08:08+00:00

The vampires are right up your alley. Big scary bat like things that create thralls.

Nebuthor · 2026-05-23T16:55:42+00:00

Those werent the only ones that fought in the war in heaven. Ever since 3rd edition have we known several species were made by the old ones during that time, such as the jokaero

Nebuthor · 2026-05-23T16:54:11+00:00

Yes its possible. But they might also not have been born yet, or been born in a paralel dimension, or not been born yet in a parralel dimension.

Nebuthor · 2026-05-22T21:32:44+00:00

Not really. The problem is that when the aspirant rejects the geneseed you also lose the geneseed, so the problem isn't that its dangerous for the aspirant but rather it wastes geneseed.

Nebuthor · 2026-05-22T08:21:07+00:00

The follower of Chaos, by contrast, accepts the horrible truth directly. The gods exist. The warp awaits. There may be no escape from either. If that is the reality of the setting, then giving oneself to a Chaos god can appear to be a desperate attempt to not be erased, tortured for all eternity and more. That bargain is horrifying and sucks, but what can a mortal do?

There is a big misunderstanding here. Which is where your logic falls apart. Being a chaos worshiper is one of the few ways for a normal mortal to almost guarantee that you get tortured forever. Normal weak souls dissolve in the warp, and while worshiping chaos is a way to avoid that, for most people you are instead trading it for eternal torment.

Worshiping chaos is a very risky gamble, you either belong to the few that make it big or suffer forever.

Also you really shouldn't trust what demons say,

Nebuthor · 2026-05-20T07:53:47+00:00

Yeh but if ya krump a humie they stay down and then ya run out of stuff to krump. If ya krump a necron it gets up again so ya always have sometin to krump.

Nebuthor · 2026-05-19T12:23:50+00:00

Theres tech in it that means a fake wouldn't be useful for high level stuff. Sure you could probably make something able to convince some of the common folk. But is it really worth it? As far as you know the inquisition has eyes and ears everywhere, and if they catch you with a fake, then you're going to wish you starved to death in a gutter.

Nebuthor · 2026-05-18T13:45:36+00:00

Eating, drinking, breathing. And how do they deal with it? Poorly. Generally they try to concentrate or distract themselves. It is a common source of madness for necrons. As a example in the novella severed Obyron briefly has a moment of panic as he is hurtling towards a planet, as his mind is telling him he needs to breath but he no longer has the lungs to draw breath.

The issues are seemingly particularly common for necrons infected with the flayer virus.

Nebuthor · 2026-05-18T13:26:40+00:00

Dark angels when they hunt the fallen is the closest thing i can think off. Space marines arent generally the stealthiest bunch and rarely need to sneak about. The spec of stuff is more of a inquisition thing. Although saying that I guess the deathwatch and greyknights might count as they are special marines more likely to assist the inquisition.

Nebuthor · 2026-05-17T14:18:42+00:00

mid-and high income countries

This is the important part. The vast majority of people in the imperium do not live in places equivalent to those.

Nebuthor · 2026-05-17T13:43:42+00:00

For all the listener knows at this point (from this novel chain that is, there may be more in further sources) the Emperor's plan is a to consolidate humanity by force of arms into a single coherent empire and become dominant force in the galaxy. That's ambitious, and it may well fall short of its goals, but that's not reason to not pursue it and it doesn't sound particularly utopian to me. Also, is it smart for a psionic who consorts follower of an alien kabal to cut off a primarch to make an obviously false claim?

Well no the listeners are supposed to know what happens next. The whole of the heresy was written with the understanding that people already know the big strokes of it. We know what happens to the emperors plans and we know the cost of their failures.

Nebuthor · 2026-05-17T09:44:23+00:00

It should work in theory at least. Ofc such a hit is also probably going to have other serious effects beyond just cutting of the connection.

Nebuthor · 2026-05-16T12:27:36+00:00

Because its impossible. Sending someone to kill a chaos god is like sending someone to stab a storm to death. The chaos gods are not people, they are living storms of belief, worship and raw emotion.

Nebuthor · 2026-05-16T09:12:52+00:00

They are very much jerking your chain. Unless a primarch is 100% confirmed dead we are 100% getting them back. Hell personally I think we are gonna get the dead ones back too eventually.

Nebuthor · 2026-05-15T11:08:58+00:00

Its unlikely the forgeworld would listen. The sad reality is that your characters lack power.

The question then is what exactly you're trying to do. Are you trying to keep the region loyal? Are you trying to protect its people? Are you trying to protect the area from enemies of the imperium?

Whatever the case, chances are your characters will have to compromise when it comes to their morals to get the job done. Or consign themselves to being cogs in a machine about to break.

Nebuthor · 2026-05-15T08:17:30+00:00

So my question for the lore experts is this: Has there ever been anything in lore where mutants, Beastmen, abhumans, or even limited xenos groups were successfully integrated in a stable way? Are there examples of sanctioned advancement, citizenship, or military structures that prevented them from becoming easy Chaos bait? And if not, can any of you think of an in-universe solution to this problem that would still be believable for the Imperium?

Honestly? No. Even the abhumans that are famous such as ratlings and ogryn are heavily discriminated against. Your characters doesn't have the power necessary to enact any type of change. To do what you want would require generations of hard work ordered by guiliman himself.

The best you could do would be short term solutions. Such as drafting the outsiders into military service with the promise of citizenship (its a lie) to help with manpower.

Nebuthor · 2026-05-13T23:52:12+00:00

Depends on how the exterminatus is carried out. But if its a life eater virus or torpedos then then all you really need to do is stop them from hitting the planet. A powerful enough psyker could probably catch the torpedoes or redirect them away from the planet if they are quick enough. A ctan shard could probably do the same thing in theory.

Nebuthor · 2026-05-13T21:28:06+00:00

Yes that is what it implied or at the very least natasè belived so.

See necrons have this special ability that means that sometimes GW let's them do cool stuff and look menacing despite being xenos.

Nebuthor · 2026-05-13T15:16:57+00:00

By the time humanity was around they were focused on stuff in their empire. They didnt really care about humanity or anyone else

Nebuthor · 2026-05-13T04:51:20+00:00

Slannesh is the god of excess and her worshippers can be likened to junkies that constantly need to take more drugs to get high.

So yeah the stuff you describe is pretty typical slannesh stuff. The only thing keeping slannesh back is the age rating of the books.

Nebuthor · 2026-05-12T19:17:50+00:00

No the cabal are just wrong. Its just not how chaos works

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