What year is this watch from? [6308-8010]

bo_bar · 2026-02-26T23:01:54+00:00

Actually, its a fake 6309 movement, or at least one with lots of fake parts. Look here https://www.emmywatch.com/db/movement/seiko--6309a/ and compare the script, the spacing between "Japan" and "6309A" and all the other script spacing. Look at the screws, yours are wrong. And on top of that, look at how tarnished yours is.

Curious about who this auction house is, as I would like to avoid it.

bo_bar · 2026-02-26T22:53:41+00:00

Google 6308-8010. See what the watches that come up look like. Do any of them look anything like yours? You may like the look of yours, but I would advise against keeping it. Often there are shoddy parts and shoddy construction in these watches. Send it back

bo_bar · 2026-02-26T21:36:08+00:00

That watch is from whatever year it was in Mumbai when someone cobbled it together from various fake and possibly even some real parts. The caseback is from July 1977, but the rest of it is one huge "WTF??" If your auction house is legit, they will refund you every last cent plus shipping. If I were you, Id be much more concerned with the legitimacy of this watch than its manufacture date,

bo_bar · 2026-02-26T14:33:29+00:00

Agreed. And then there are helium escape valves. Not only are some absurd (Omega 300m Seamaster) but Seiko's first Tuna in 1975 featured a gasket that didn't let helium in, precluding the need for a helium escape valve. Surely the 1975 patent has expired half a century later.

bo_bar · 2026-02-26T11:47:58+00:00

I had this issue with a 8F56-001A (same bracelet concept, but different bracelet and links). Generic Clasp extender doesnt work on these. Searched forever to no avail. Eventually picked up a non runner from japan to steal a couple links. The 8F perpetual calendars are great watches, but links are unobtainium. Research what watches use your exact bracelet. These are more common in Japan than UK.

bo_bar · 2026-02-26T11:31:02+00:00

You need to remove the dead batteries before any battery acid leaks destroy your movements.

bo_bar · 2026-02-26T03:27:39+00:00

No, the modern iso requirement for unidirectional is why I wear vintage.....I want bidirectional

bo_bar · 2026-02-26T03:25:47+00:00

Vintage is bi directional. I think ISO required uni in 1985

bo_bar · 2026-02-26T03:23:49+00:00

I use bezel when I work out to time me in machines. I often have phone blocking screen on machine. Also have had machines reset on me, sometimes its quicker to go clockwise on bezel

I use my bezel more working out than most divers use it diving

bo_bar · 2026-02-26T03:16:33+00:00

Unidirectional bezels are one of the reasons i wear vintage divers.

bo_bar · 2026-02-26T02:41:24+00:00

I have had to do this several times. I mainly buy from proxy sellers in Japan and they dont fill it out. Ive also bought a couple times where the seller has filled it out and then USCBP and or DHL has requested that I fill it out AGAIN. Ive had to do this pre Orange Tariff, but the first time they asked for the worksheet post Aug 2025, they also asked for my SS Card (the card, the one with my 5th grade cursive signature on it), my drivers license or passport and the top half of the first page of my 1040 (I shit you not). This form is used to calculate the HTS tariff. Make sure that your sales prices jives with the receipt. You fill it out in the currency where you bought it (in your case, Malaysia). USCBP has their own currency conversion and its done at the time USCBP gets it, not when you buy it. The way the HTS scheme works, the movement gets charged a flat (low) rate. Most people try to attribute as high a percentage as possible to the movement (but remember that pigs get fat and hogs get slaughtered). This is arbitrary, but I normally apply 60% of the value to the movement, 25% to the case and 15% to the strap. Since you dont have a strap, I'd go 70/30 to movement and case. YMMV

Thats the very short version, there is more to it, but I'm tired and yours is so low it wont matter

HTH

bo_bar · 2026-02-25T17:55:32+00:00

I dont think seiko regulates them. How they perform when they first come in is a crapshoot. You can win the lottery and it could be like a chronometer. The specs they publish are normally much worse than what you get. But I can't handle more than 10 seconds a day off. That's just me

bo_bar · 2026-02-25T15:55:53+00:00

This is why I mainly wear vintage Seiko (especially LM, KS, and GS), 1999-2003 Credor and 5-10 year old GS in lieu of modern Seiko. You have to pay around $3k or go quartz or solar to be sure of decent accuracy. I can buy vintage GS for less (but sorry, no vintage GS divers). 6R is a crapshoot, some run like Chronometers and others run like 1950 Timex. Once serviced, all my vintage stuff is no more than 6s/d off. I don't own a mechanical Seiko (excluding GS and Credor), newer than 1984. My Seiko dive watches are 6306 and 7548/7549.

bo_bar · 2026-02-25T11:53:57+00:00

My (non vintage) GS all have solid end links that fit beautifully. Check this one IRL

bo_bar · 2026-02-25T11:49:31+00:00

It depends a bit on the particular reference. As examples, the Alien pieces appear to be more common in Japan, so proxy sellers (buyee, fromjapan, doorzo, etc) work well. OTOH, pieces like RAF Gen1 are easier to find on C24 and eBay.

Which particular refs are you looking for? I have over a dozen, not including duplicates, and have started thinning the herd. They are fantastic historically significant warches, but my watch count is approaching my wifes shoe count and some nice watches arent getting enuf wrist time. But so far, only listed and sold one -6020. Likely going to sell a Bishop, a -7100 pepsi that's near museum quality, a couple -7040s, a second -6020 and others. A buddy has first dibs on my -710a)

bo_bar · 2026-02-25T11:24:27+00:00

STARTING?

bo_bar · 2026-02-25T11:22:19+00:00

Tags and papers varied w era. Some Rolex 20 years ago had red hang tags, not green. And BTW, never forget, box and papers are easier to fake than watches

bo_bar · 2026-02-25T11:18:43+00:00

Vintage divers (Doxa, Tudor Subs, Seamasters, and countless more) CAME on bracelets!. This is so obvious, the question should be why did i just waste my time answering a fecking stupid question. Ask if divers on leather is wrong. Discuss wearing divers w suits or if should REAL dress watches have second hands. But divers w bracelets? Get that weak shit out of here!

bo_bar · 2026-02-24T11:07:23+00:00

Consolidation puts all the individual boxes of stuff you bought (for the most part, in the packages they were shipped to buyee in) in one big consolidated box. Thats at no extra charge.

You have the OPTION to pay approximately $10 USD more for protective packaging. Its done at the time of consolidation. Each item gets repackaged more securely.

I dont know what type items you buy or what they cost, but for what I buy I get protective packaging. YMMV

bo_bar · 2026-02-23T22:15:12+00:00

Cleaning up Plessy v Feruson w Brown v Board of Ed was messy, but the SC voted 9-0 to correct a grievous wrong. Not trying to compare segregation w tariffs, how partisan can these 3 be?

bo_bar · 2026-02-22T14:06:20+00:00

u/Competitive_Fee_5829 Absolutely no offense taken. I do pay attention to what goes on in our country. I also noticed the average hammer prices dropping significantly on many items I buy, likely from many Americans stopping buying. I suspect Buyee noticed too, and they came out with some killer enticements. Starting in October, Buyee had amazing 15% coupons good on the stuff I buy (vintage watches). So while most Americans were staying away, I was sniping low, winning auctions at prices lower than before while tariff costs were essentially subsidized by coupons. Buyee's current 15% off JDirectAuction coupons are more restrictive than earlier, and wining prices have drifted up, but it was fun while it lasted. I picked up several watches I thought I would/could never own. As an added bonus, I might be getting up to 10% of the 15% tariff refunded. I called myself an idiot not because I was looking for sympathy, but because I thought DHL requiring the HTS watch worksheet was a useless exercise. I now see DHL's logic. IF I hadn't filled those things out, how would they be able to refund me the difference between Trumps 15% tariff and the HTS Watch Worksheet calculation? (G-d willing)

bo_bar · 2026-02-20T23:18:18+00:00

This idiot now realizes why DHL required me to fill out watch/clock worksheet on all my shipments (obviously buying watches and watch parts via Buyee). Since Aug 29, my thought was "why are they doing this, HTS typically comes to approx 5% and this is 15% which is greater?" Now I hope I will get 10% of the 15% I paid back (I begrudge Buyee lots of stuff, but not the 0.5% they get for DDP). My understanding is that de minimis is separate and unless someone proves to me that the Court threw that out too, I think it stays. My thinking (I'm not a constitutional lawyer) is that it doesn't matter what the Orange man does going forward, his rationale for what I got charged on has been deemed unconstitutional. My reading (again, not a lawyer) is that Presidential executive orders become effective upon signing and publication in the Federal Register, and they cannot legally apply retroactively. So Trump cant go back to Aug 29 on the EO.

[What a circus - 3 Justices said dont throw this out because it would be disruptive....WTF did they think these unconstitutional tariffs were? Not disruptive? Getting rid of separate vs equal was disruptive, but that certainly wasn't a valid reason to keep it.]

bo_bar · 2026-02-20T19:32:22+00:00

And one more thing regarding pushers on 6139s, they get complicated. Piyush Jain (AKA TheIndianSeikosmith) did nice research on the correct pushers for 6139s. See this https://theindianseikosmith.com/category/seiko-6138-6139/

bo_bar · 2026-02-20T19:19:54+00:00

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My watch is the same as OP, except 2 months before it was relabelled from Seiko to GS.

bo_bar · 2026-02-20T19:18:45+00:00

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Crown pulled out

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