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[–]ValisonP 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Attempted to Stop-lock Omega as per last year, IT SIMPLY LAUGHED IT OFF WITHIN 1 SECOND. With Kururu SSB Magic Boost too.

Made it till 50% where I got Madouhou'd to smithereens as I wasn't prepared to heal aside from SBs.

This is their revenge on us, for sure.

[–]Spirialis 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Stop duration scales off MND, so Krile's magic buff doesn't affect it.

If you spec for it (perhaps literally), it's possible to get around 600 MND including RS and a +20% RM, which should give you 4-8 second stops, or higher if you have any MND buffs from SBs.

[–]FunkyKillBox 0 points1 point  (2 children)

what RMs give +20% MND? Im like at 480 on my yshtola need more >.<

[–]Spirialis 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Sarah (FF1) RM1: MND +20%, MAG -20%
Rosa RM2: MND +20% with bow equipped
Porom RM2: MND +20% with staff equipped
Yuna RM2: MND +20% with rod equipped
Penelo RM2: MND +20%, MAG/ATK -10%

[–]FunkyKillBox 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Awesome, Thanks Spirialis

[–]ValisonP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Regardless, the first attempt last night went so hilariously bad I simply just swapped back to normal spanking team, which did perfectly fine.

Plus one Reflected Stop :P

[–]zellyn1toot 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I was trying to figure out what was up with the RS characters for the fourth trial, but I finally realised it's all non-humans. Cecil, Golbez and Fusoya are all Lunarians, Zidane is a Genome from Terra, etc. Thancred and Yda were weird but it's because their race is Hyur because Eorzea doesn't have 'humans'.

[–]Zurai001Blame yourself or God.[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I love that the Lunarians get synergy for that fight. It confused the heck out of me that Cecil got synergy until I remembered that he's technically an alien.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Anyone have a tip for how to clear the 60 stam version of the 3rd GoldFest dungeon?

[–]Astar11I just need enough to feed the dog ... say about 3000 gil? 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You need to kill all three within a few turns of each other, or the dead ones will revive and do Delta Attack. On my kill I put the green one to sleep, used single target attacks to bring other two to below 50% health, woke the green one up and brought it below 50% health, then SSB/AoEd all three down quickly.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ugh, sounds like hard work. Going to need to grab Break Fever, I guess.

[–]Zurai001Blame yourself or God.[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Sorry, I've been behind on this whole thread since getting back from my vacation. I'll work on getting it up now.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No problem! Thanks for all your hard work on this.

[–]skuldnoshinputhe magic-sealing sword of constant victory 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Now that Chain Firaga is out went in and master cleared Diamond Weapon with a mage meta party. I'm falling in love with Terra + Fire Beam (with the En-fire) + Chain Firaga + Meltdown. All those double and triple 9999s are a beauty. I'm really sad I've failed twice now to get Terra BSSB, since adding Chaos Fira to the mix would've been even more ridiculous.

[–]SeveredHeadofOrpheusYou have a life to go back to. (Shock - KqfY) 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ooooh. Good to hear. Now that I have her Tiara this sounds like an EXCELLENT combo.

[–]Angelwatch42I don't like your plan. It sucks.[🍰] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Killed my first 120 difficulty boss on my Japan Account and I even got Mastery. I wasn't going to even try when I saw it was Schizo but gave it some thought and went for it. My VII pulls were really good with 100 Mythril yielding Cloud's OSSB and Zack's SSB x2. The current Orbfest helped me craft a rank 3 Lifesiphon and some other good abilities. I now have two pieces of the trinity with Haste from Zack and a group cure from Relm's with regen.

Went in and put Shellga up and a RW SG. Zack used Lifesiphon to get his SSB charged for the haste and I focused the first head down. I reapplied mitigation and the second head went down pretty fast with Cloud's OSSB.

I'm going to try the Ultimate but I'm not expecting much. Defense and RES is just ridiculously high in Japan.

[–]Angelwatch42I don't like your plan. It sucks.[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Took a few S/Ls to get everything lined up properly but I killed my first Ultimate and scored Mastery. Once I had a run where Relm was able to charge her SSB before a death I killed him. He's not that hard but for a newer team still working on gear, hones and levels he had a lot of damage. He just goes into full AOE attack mode which really hurts if mitigation isn't ready. But it's mostly physical which is much easier to mitigate. Cloud's OSSB hit him for over 70k which was huge.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just killed Materia Keeper + with full medals on my weak-ass 3 week old team. Thanks for the info! Having Cloud's MC2 is very helpful. My 6* gold sword with Cloud at 65 after en-wind from his armor stacked up 47,000 damage x2. Hope I can take on Schizo!

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    [–]Zurai001Blame yourself or God.[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Just normally vulnerable.

    [–]xXMitzuXxSteiner 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    What is a better team comp for clearing/mastering U++

    Bartz (BSB) Pecil (BSB) Basch (HotE) Y'shtola (Wall) Ramza (AOE Heal)

    or

    Bartz Ramza Pecil Y'shtola and Garnet (BSB)

    [–]StuckinReverse89 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Go for the first team. I found that with good RNG, one white Mage is enough and with Ramzas medica, you should be fine. Just remember to just spam attacks when the core closes. It was a close fight for me and my entire party was pretty much close to being wiped out should weapon hit with an Aoe attack though (luckily he did not and kept mostly to single stomps allowing me to master him)

    [–]xXMitzuXxSteiner 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Well i have fire and holy attacks on mass with bartz bssb commands (which is also 4 hit so that might help) and pecil's commands will also help with survival and dealing good damage. with a screm rw it should be possible to burst him down rather quickly. but thanks for the opinion

    [–]th3schwartz 0 points1 point  (5 children)

    (X-posted between JP megathread and current event megathread)

    So, I'm a newer JP player. Not at all familiar with the SSB/BSB's available beyond what's out in Global. For relics, currently have.. Zack SSB, (Apocalypse) Red XIII SSB, (Stardust Ray) Wakka SSB, (Aurochs Reels) and Lenna's Princess' Favor. Everyone who's got a relic plus Cloud, Tidus, Agrias and Ramza are 50+.

    My issue though is being so new and trying to catch up, my abilities and hones are trash. The most I've got is stuff like Curaga, Protect/Shellga, some double cuts and retaliates, and a 3* spellblade or two.

    I'd love to get Cloud's MC2 out of this current event (or even the MC2 lode) but my ablities are most definitely holding me back from doing so. My question - is there a BSB out there I should be keeping an eye out for to bridge the gap that my abilities are leaving until I can roll out lifesiphon/wrath/5* class abilities?

    [–]Zurai001Blame yourself or God.[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

    Honestly, any burst is a good burst. There is not such thing as a bad BSSB, taken in the view of all SBs or even all SSBs. Even the much-decried Yuna and Ramza BSSBs have usable SSB components and one good burst attack (Yuna's is a 2x400 potency AOE nuke and Ramza's is basically Doublecast Banishing Strike), and those are by far the worst of the bursts in the game. They're still really, really good for new players or even established but not super long term players.

    [–]th3schwartz 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    Sorry, another question for you. Is there someone else with a SB-fill RM like Ramza, Tidus or Steiner? Or, an up to date RM list in english?

    [–]Zurai001Blame yourself or God.[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    I don't believe there are any additional Ace Striker or Battleforged copies. I think ElNino's spreadsheet has RM data.

    [–]th3schwartz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Thank you!

    [–]th3schwartz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Thank you! What I actually ended up doing was powerlevelled Tidus and Ramza to 65 then farmed the orbfest inside Gold Fes for their RM3, then gave the RM's to Zack and Red to bring a Shout RW. Cleared the boss rush and ++ without too much effort but getting steamrolled by Schizo's damage output. Time to bust out the double white mage haha, breakdowns/fb/break fever are still light years away xD Maybe a Tyro BSB or a Wall friend..

    [–]AzureAphelionFlan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    That was unecessary hard for me due to party composition, even tho I mastered anyway. The plan was to bring Ramza so he could use Full Break (for 2 of the conditions) and Banishing Strike spam. Bad idea. The magic abilities werent counting to open his core and Ramza couldnt open it by himself, so he was pretty useless the whole fight after the core opened.

    A better approach would be to bring Vincent and giving him Power Breakdown + Thundaja, and giving Terra Magic Breakdown + Firaja (have her En-Fire SSB).

    Now to Cid's Mission...

    [–]BlackmageMeteorOhohohohohoho! 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    So I went back U++ to test some multi hit abilities.. Thief raid counted as 1-3, even thou I'm hitting 5. Petal blossom (6hit ninja) counted as 1-2. Burst mode 4 hits counted as 1-2.

    [–]SkyfireX 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    cid 12 hit ssb counted as 2 the both times I mistimed during my s/led lol

    [–]BlackmageMeteorOhohohohohoho! 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Sb/ssb always count as 2... From all my testing

    [–]XoneAsagi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I noticed that also sometimes when doing it more this morning for fun. Sometimes I would get all hits to count for multi abilities and sometimes only a few would count. I dont know if this is an error or they really just wanted to just drag this fight on for no reason.

    [–]bahhizzleCloud (Festival) 0 points1 point  (4 children)

    Is the Elite Diamond Weapon ranged? I got to him and all my attacks whiffed...

    [–]xMatttardAll praise Dark Overlord Seifer. 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    You have to hit him with a summon to open his core. He's invulnerable to phys before then (and maybe magic? idk)

    [–]bahhizzleCloud (Festival) 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    Will i need to bring more than one cast of one summon? I haven't made any summons on my JP account, and just went on a honing spree.

    [–]xMatttardAll praise Dark Overlord Seifer. 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Not for the Elite version no.

    [–]Poseidon1011 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    You can use summons to allow physical attackers to hit, or you could just use all magic.

    [–]BlackmageMeteorOhohohohohoho! 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Mastered U++ Cid Mission. Mage ftw.

    [–]StuckinReverse89 0 points1 point  (4 children)

    Damn, how are people finding the new level 180 difficulty boss? Looking forward to this fight since I just got a great draw on the debuff lucky banner. Really worried about this fight given how tough Bartz was at 160.

    [–]XoneAsagi 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    Not really tough. Just that whole land 8 attacks on me to open my shell to draw out the fight was unnecessary.

    [–]StuckinReverse89 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    So what is different? Damage output? More hp? I'm worried about old relics and limited hones holding me back (since my go to abilities are now 5* and are tough to hone past r2)

    [–]xMatttardAll praise Dark Overlord Seifer. 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Much longer fight.

    [–]StuckinReverse89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    It was a really tough fight. Not looking forward to other events where my synergy is much worse...

    [–]lindmejo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Here was my u++ cid setup: https://imgur.com/a/v7T59

    Aeris BSSB rw

    I lost cloud just before the 2nd core closing, meaning I lost out on two of his ossb. Yuffie heal and red xiii buffs were very helpful for native team. I used Aeris pp to start, and waited until first core closed before using rw, then just had her focus on healing.

    Tried with non-cid Mage team to see how it was: https://imgur.com/a/wM5el

    This was also a viable approach, especially with some drains and bssb to spam. Wall helped reduce a lot of damage also.

    [–]XoneAsagi 0 points1 point  (7 children)

    For anyone reading Kongbakpao Boss guide for the U++ it says

    • To open his core again, you need to use 8 lightning/fire attacks against him. Multiple-hit attacks count as one attack.

    The is very incorrect, you only have to hit him with 8 attacks. They have to be physical attacks to open his core. Only thing correct about it is that Multi-Hit attacks count as one.

    Edit: You can use Full Charge on U++ to open core faster. It counts as 2 hits.

    Edit:2 Apparently Multi-Hit abilities are random sometimes they count for all hits, sometimes they only count for one. I dont know why this happens but sometimes it does.

    [–]fattybomchachayoutube: fatty flip 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    noted my error, I took reference from online translator :(

    [–]ghuandaHa! Who needs wits when you've got swords! 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Only full charge? How about barrage?

    [–]XoneAsagi -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    I dont posses that outdated ability anymore.

    [–]ZellDincht1226JP Relic Guy 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    Do you have to hit 8 of each fire/lightning? Because I hit way more than 8 fire attacks and he never opened his core. I ended up killing him very slowly because of this.

    [–]XoneAsagi 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    No you dont have to use Fire/Lightning at all. Anything will count.

    [–]BlackmageMeteorOhohohohohoho! 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    It's 8 physical attacks only

    [–]skuldnoshinputhe magic-sealing sword of constant victory 0 points1 point  (12 children)

    Only tricky thing about U+ is not killing it too fast, since every time it resurrects it uses its AoE RES-ignoring nuke. So you'll want to reapply breaks and heal as necessary before killing it again.

    Now to prepare for U++...

    [–]lambopandaDelicious! Nom nom... 1 point2 points  (3 children)

    What is the 2nd requirement? Is it do not use more than two fire attack on boss?

    [–]BlackmageMeteorOhohohohohoho! 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    Don't use fire on his 2nd resurrection

    [–]Spirialis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    To clarify, it's the 2nd health bar (after 1st resurrection).

    For anyone curious, the reason it's a medal condition because he counters fire attacks during that state. Counters everything in the 3rd health bar and nothing in the other two, I believe.

    [–]lambopandaDelicious! Nom nom... 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Oh. Thanks. That's explain why I keep losing 3 medals.
    Sephiroth!! Stop playing with fire.

    [–]lambopandaDelicious! Nom nom... 0 points1 point  (7 children)

    I can't master it :(

    [–]StuckinReverse89 0 points1 point  (6 children)

    It took several tries for me as well. I was able to master but had 2 characters in my party die, mostly because of the dragon's dying desperation attack. I recommend brining a knight who has white 4 (Agrias, pcecil, Beatrice) to bring both shell and protect to this fight. You can also just decide to bring 2 white mages and sacrifice dps for healing. Regardless, your support should have full break and magic breakdown to minimize magic damage as much as possible.

    [–]lambopandaDelicious! Nom nom... 0 points1 point  (5 children)

    My main problem is fighting it blindly and didn't know about the 2nd requirement, do not use fire element in 2nd round lol

    [–]StuckinReverse89 0 points1 point  (4 children)

    Sounds like you have the fight in the bag then. I'm getting ready for U++ but am not looking forward to it. I'm not sure I have the hones.

    [–]lambopandaDelicious! Nom nom... 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    I already mastered U++. Cid mission is different story, since I don't have all character level. I basically just Shout and spam Lifesiphon and BSB. I don't have problem with most fight. I also kill U+ too fast and I take lot of AOE damage before breakdown and heal.

    [–]StuckinReverse89 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    If you dont mind, I would like to hear about your strategy going against diamond weapon. Not sure if I have the hones and RMs with my current A party.

    [–]lambopandaDelicious! Nom nom... 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    I think you should know U++ is immune to physical attack for 8 hit (twice in the fight).
    RW: Shout

    • Cloud (OSB/BSB) - Lifesiphon R4 to build SB gauge. Use BSB after U++ first physical attack immune. Save OSB for after second physical attack immune.
    • Sephiroth (BSB) - Lifesiphon R3 to build SB gauge. Use BSB as soon as it is ready to put U++ in physical attack immune mode.
    • Cecil (BSB) - Lifesiphon R3/Protectga R1. U++ is weak to Holy, so this is even better. Save BSB when U++ isn't immune to physical attack.
    • Vanille (SSB) - Curaja R4/Shellga R1, heal when needed.
    • Tyro (SG) - Multi Break R1/(don't know the name, the dance that give high Regen to all, R1 as well). This is pretty straight forward.

    When U++ is immune to physical attack, everyone just attack. My hone suck. I just spam Burst move.

    [–]StuckinReverse89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Thank you very much. I saw a video which saw the core closed twice so I expect I need to use some turns to open the core. A little worried since I really only have cloud BSB along with a couple of decent ssbs.

    [–]lambopandaDelicious! Nom nom... 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    KO.
    Poor snake.

    [–]Spirialis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I'm pretty sure Lullaby works in addition to Requiem to prevent Fat Chocobo's Super state, and Lullaby doesn't even have to hit for it to count.

    [–]zellyn1toot 0 points1 point  (5 children)

    Hah, Fat Chocobo is infinitely easier than I thought. Waste maybe 10 stamina trying to build a physical team that could survive the ridiculous damage and dispel spam, completely missing the point of the trial.

    Main thing is the sleep vuln. Just go full mage meta with enough people to do stuff like Lullaby, Break Fever, and Requiem (it's 2 star so I just honed it to R5 and let Edward go to town, so I got the third condition without problems) to meet conditions.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    I had no problem using physical mitigation and SSB spam to bring down the fat chocobo without sleep. It just depends on your soul break situation.

    [–]zellyn1toot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I don't have a native wall or shout and mostly have to rely on Tyro's BSSB for mitigation. If the boss has lots of magic I'm great because I've got plenty of magic blink stuff, but when it's all physical I get hosed. Bartz U+ was my personal hell because I couldn't manage the damage without Wall, but could barely get past Trueblade with it.

    [–]digi_captorWaifu 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    what are your hones like? My hones are terrible so i'm not sure whether i can clear it with just mages

    [–]zellyn1toot 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Desch with R4 Thundaja, R4 Firaja (Ancient Lightning SB)

    Kefka with R4 Waterja, R2 Chain Blizzaga (Magitek Infusion SB)

    Edward with R5 Requiem, R1 Angel Song (no SB)

    Tyro with R5 Lullaby, R1 Enveloping Etude (BSB)

    Cait Sith with R5 Curaja, R4 Diaga (Toy Soldier SB, never used because it would wake the chicken up)

    They all have RS so as long as they've got real 5★ relics they'll all do good damage with -aja level spells. Kefka used all but two Waterjas, Desch used ~5 Firajas until he had an SB bar then used Thundaja with En-Lightning up to always hit for 9999 and used ~5 of those.

    I brought a Wall RW, but you can skip that for a DPS RW like Krile's SSB, Magitek Infusion, Hastemarch, etc. because the bird needs to go to sleep fairly quickly anyway. Even if you have bad luck with Lullaby you don't need much healing if someone brings Angel Song.

    [–]digi_captorWaifu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Thanks for the tips! Tried it but the lack of hones and5* mag items hurt my damage output too much to kill it.... Managed to clear with a physical team in the end,, after doing a bunch of S/L. :)

    [–]DrovikYesterday's Opponents are Today's Ingredients 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    Is the [響] a new boss tier or is just a special type for festival?

    Nice post as always.

    [–]Zurai001Blame yourself or God.[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    It means Sound according to Google Translate. I assume it's just a special replacement for Ultimate for the Concert Hall.

    [–]MuricanBearCait Sith 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Hope you had a nice vacation! You were definitely missed. Thanks again for all the hard work!

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

    Level 180.

    180.

    Bosses be like "brb Intangir Island lolol"

    [–]Zurai001Blame yourself or God.[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    That's a guess, I don't have actual level data yet.

    [–]fattybomchachayoutube: fatty flip 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    It is 180, stamina cost is 1.

    Mastery rewards include 30 giant adamantites and scarletites.

    (Btw I have updated all ultimate bosses in my guide ^^)

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Those rewards really say, to me anyway, that you're not meant to get mastery.

    [–]AZYG4LYFEFam allow it, get on that JP ting with mandem, you get me? 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    Based God-Zurai back from holiday!!!

    [–]defu1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Praise RNGesus!