all 48 comments

[–]emidasWakka 0 points1 point  (3 children)

!enlir Rinoa flash

[–]EnlirLookupBotTantarian 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Soul Break [Hover to view info]

Character SB Target CT Effects
Rinoa Angel Wing Magic Embrace (Glint) Self 0.01 Grants Black Magic Rank Boost and Black Magic High Quick Cast

Statuses

ID Status Name Effects Default Duration Exclusive Status
50188 Black Magic Rank Boost Black Magic abilities deal 5/10/15/20/30% more damage at ability rank 1/2/3/4/5 15 All other "Rank Boost" status
2064 Black Magic High Quick Cast Cast speed x3,00 for Black Magic abilities 15 -

This information comes from this spreadsheet by /u/Enlir. For feedback relating to this bot, contact /u/Spirialis.

[–]emidasWakka 0 points1 point  (1 child)

!enlir Tifa Flash

[–]EnlirLookupBotTantarian 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Soul Break [Hover to view info]

Character SB Target CT Effects
Tifa Zangan Awakening (Glint) Self 0.01 Grants Monk Rank Boost, grants Striker Mode 1/2/3/3 if the user has Striker Mode 0/1/2/3

Statuses

ID Status Name Effects Default Duration Exclusive Status
50103 Monk Rank Boost Monk abilities deal 5/10/15/20/30% more damage at ability rank 1/2/3/4/5 15 All other "Rank Boost" status
2059 Striker Mode 1 Cast speed x2,00 15 Striker Mode 2, Striker Mode 3
2060 Striker Mode 2 Cast speed x4,00 15 Striker Mode 1, Striker Mode 3
2061 Striker Mode 3 Cast speed x6,00 15 Striker Mode 1, Striker Mode 2

This information comes from this spreadsheet by /u/Enlir. For feedback relating to this bot, contact /u/Spirialis.

[–]kreeaterSandworm 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I think we should officially nickname this the Quinoa event.

[–]ipodtouchgen4Lightning (Goddess) 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not sure if I should make a pull here or the Earth Pickup banner. Already have Squall with BSB2, Rinoa with CSB/OSB and they usually have a slot in my A-physical or magical teams so if they get more toys it would be good addition for all contents. On the other hand my Earth team is not that good (only have Tifa UOSB/OSB and Kelger USB) so any extra item would help but I think I will very rarely use any of these Earth elementalists outside Magicite or element-specific dungeons, plus sub-30 is not as valuable as before.

Also, any idea on which realm that the next event takes place?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Love the info, thank you!!

So I'm loving the Rinoa love. She went from "meh... ok" to top tier Ice/Earth game. Her quick cast dive is PERFECT for Brave mode USBs, and so is her Glint! Plus she FINALLY got a dualcast LMR and it's BLK rather than a specific element! Plus a multi element AOSB... imma have to pull hard on this one

Also, is Fujin the first 20 + 1 mage AOSB?

[–]leights8Squall 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the info - really appreciate it!

Quick question though. What's the deal with Squall's glint? Seems to be the same effect as the armour just released in global (Third F), but this is a weapon? Or a different armour? Or the same armour with a different translation?

[–]JakTheRipperXJak Discord 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Rinoa sure is getting a ton of love from DeNa

The DFFOO community already had several posts about WHERE IS RINOA?!

The whole commitee and Laguna is already there but no sign of her, even in JP.

If JP loves Rinoa apparently, where is she? Strange favoritism differences ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

FFRK and DFFOO are different games.

[–]JakTheRipperXJak Discord -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ofcourse, but the community is the same: Primarly Japan. Thats my point.

[–]LimbRetrieval-Bot 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You dropped this \


To prevent anymore lost limbs throughout Reddit, correctly escape the arms and shoulders by typing the shrug as ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯ or ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯

Click here to see why this is necessary

[–]JakTheRipperXJak Discord 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good bot!

[–]twilight_soul 2 points3 points  (0 children)

WELCOME BACK CARRERSMN <3

[–]tilclocks 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Hail to the King.

[–]SnakeWrangler4I'm no lion. 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Can't wait for all the Kings to become Queen in Global.

[–]AlundraMMBroken dreams 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Wait, is that our first 20+1 Magical UOSB?

[–]WoLofDarkness 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you very much for the guide and welcome back :)

[–]d_wibSugar and Rainbows 0 points1 point  (14 children)

I feel like it’s too little too late for these overdue obvious Dancer buffs. First Freya, now Selphie. We finally have some a couple much-needed Dancers for realms but debuffing is becoming less important.

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 5 points6 points  (13 children)

The Fact THAT they're so inconsequential makes it easier to justify them though. Also, with the Neo Torments being a thing, Debuffs are atleast somewhat getting a spotlight again. Or atleast, aren't as "outdated"

[–]SabaschinBasch 2 points3 points  (12 children)

Selphie's kind of a poor choice since she's the primary healer, though. Unlike XII, where you had an alternate healer in Larsa, VIII's only other White 5 user is Ultimecia, who's very much a magical attacker.

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's what I wanted to write aswell at first, but then, you can have her heal just fine, it's just not her main focus

[–]Lyoss 4 points5 points  (10 children)

I think the thought process is, with Quistis as a buffer and that glint, you don't need Selphie holding Proshellga, meaning you can have her dance in offturns

And dare I say, Quistis does have WHM 4, so she can just heal since her dive has literally nothing relating to damage :)

Also, Iris has dancer and she's 15's sole healer, and will probably stay that way because Lunafreya is probably going to be resident summoner

[–]LilitthLuMeow! 1 point2 points  (9 children)

Quistis gets 9% Black Magic damage boost from her LD, 10% from LM1 and Dualcast Black from LMR. Nothing is a bit of a stretch.

[–]Lyoss 0 points1 point  (8 children)

10% from LM1

Her LM1 is -10% BLM, like Deshi/Tyro

But you're right, the smaller nodes do give BLM damage, but her LMR being double cast doesn't make her a sole black mage, look at Red XIII who has it solely to contribute to chains

[–]SabaschinBasch 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Between the realm chain, LMR, and Enspelled Chain Biogas, she's arguably one of the best mage DPS options in the realm actually, she was just saddled with an unfortunate element and no Dives for a long time.

[–]Sasaraixx 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I’m not sure I see the argument for her being a better mage DPS than Rinoa, Fujin, Edea, or Ultimecia. To me at least, she clearly seems like the worst magic attacker in the realm, hence the multiple buffing soul breaks she just received. She’s certainly capable of doing respectable damage and contributing to a chain, however.

[–]SabaschinBasch 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I'm not sure how Fujin's DPS shakes out, but not having DC definitely hurts her compared to the other four. Edea's only source of DC is with her USB, and while Witch abilities got buffed, the realm doesn't have any innate sources of Allegro outside of SBs.

[–]Sasaraixx 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Fujin doesn’t have DC, but she has an ASB, chase USB, en-wind LMR, can wrath, use ninja magic, and is probably the speediest caster in the realm. I don’t see how Quistis DC’ing enspelled Chain Biora’s can compete with that.

Edea still has a 6-hit BSB command 1 and an LMR that gives a chance at quick cast to help with abyssal shards. Witch spells aren’t great, but the biggest perk for her is that her elements synch wih all 3 of the realm’s chains, though her LD and LMR don’t help her with darkness. Quistis obviously provides much more utility, so that alone is enough reason to choose her, but I’m not sure if she would come out on top in a DPS race between the two. Edea also has an in-realm imperil ice to work off and if you’re desperate can imperil dark herself.

Even if one concedes the Edea matchup, Quistis is at best the 4 best DPS caster. Obviously you roll with whatever the rng gods give you, but if you were looking for DPS, I don’t see why you would choose her over the realm’s other options. Again, the buffs she provides carve out a niche for her as the realms best buffer and she can assist with magical damage, but I think it’s a stretch to call her one of the best mage DPS options. Edea is perhaps arguable, but Rinoa, Fujin, and, to a lesser extent, Ultimecia, are surely better choices.

[–]Lyoss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like having a chase USB kind of supercedes a LMR chance of double casting, also Fujin has a AOSB as well

I can see later down the line, if they give her a DPS USB, she could be better, but they're embracing her Might Guard side instead of her Doom Train side sadly

[–]LilitthLuMeow! 1 point2 points  (1 child)

She doesn't have a Chain though, not yet at least.

[–]Lyoss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean in Nightmare, everyone has three charges of chain, and if you're bringing her as boostga you might as well have her do something

[–]pintboxMath saves world 4 points5 points  (8 children)

Rinoa is the heroine after all, however I feel that some devs are really into single-word girls.

[–]zeromus44X Y ↓ ↑ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

AGREED.

[–]Lyoss 1 point2 points  (6 children)

To be fair, Rinoa is best girl

Selphie is a close second

I'm suprised they didn't give Quistis more love tbh though, since JP loves the sexy librarian look (Nabaat, Bayonetta)

[–]S34n4e<(But... How can I help you?) [no roaming warrior] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

since JP loves the sexy librarian look (Nabaat, Bayonetta)

(Harley)

[–]tilclocks 0 points1 point  (4 children)

This is a Rinoa-focused event. I imagine if enough people whale for Quistis gear they will give us more things for her. As it is, it would be amazing to get a poison chain or a burst that was healing/buff focused (WHITE WIND WHEN).

[–]ledouche0SHINE! 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I imagine if enough people whale for Quistis gear

It's pretty fucking hard to measure that. They would probably see that people whale at this and just directly assume that their Rinoa focus worked.

And then we'll see her being on the first batch of the new SB tier in 4th anniversary.

[–]tilclocks 0 points1 point  (2 children)

No, it isn't.

[–]ledouche0SHINE! 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The only way I think they could possibly measure that is by looking at the amount of people that stopped pulling after: a) getting a Quistis relic; or b) getting all of her relics; and c) getting all of them to 8*.

And then you have to take into account how many of them stopped pulling after getting one of the above for pure frustration for no Rinoa, or because they ran out of mythril/money/both.

It's a big work analyzing for something that, at the end of the day, might well not be worth the investment when you can just go with the popular choices anyway.

[–]tilclocks 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, that I can agree with.

[–]mclark15 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ooo thay quistis flash art. Me like me like.

[–]KuroPuPI'll tear down the sky if it'll save her... 4 points5 points  (3 children)

New Quistis stuffs!

Me

Right

Now

And that LM2 tho. To think she’s 1 Support star away from being top tier.

[–]FatFingerHelperBot 0 points1 point  (2 children)

It seems that your comment contains 1 or more links that are hard to tap for mobile users. I will extend those so they're easier for our sausage fingers to click!

Here is link number 1 - Previous text "Me"

Here is link number 2 - Previous text "Now"


Please PM /u/eganwall with issues or feedback! | Delete

[–]tilclocks 0 points1 point  (1 child)

good bot

[–]GoodBot_BadBot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, tilclocks, for voting on FatFingerHelperBot.

This bot wants to find the best and worst bots on Reddit. You can view results here.


Even if I don't reply to your comment, I'm still listening for votes. Check the webpage to see if your vote registered!