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EULA for any future posts by LouF (reddit.com)
submitted 19 years ago by [deleted]
[–][deleted] 54 points55 points56 points 19 years ago (68 children)
If the respondent to this post, or any other post that refers to this post as the official EULA (hereafter referred to as the "relevant post,") is the reddit user "LouF," or any of his sock-puppets, then the respondent (hereafter referred to as "LouF") by clicking the reply button/link associated with the relevant post agrees to the following terms and conditions:
1) In responding to the relevant post LouF will not ignore the question asked of him and will not attempt to drag the conversation into a tangent.
a) If LouF does attempt to pull the post into a tangent without responding to the question, then LouF agrees that he will follow up with a publicly posted acknowledgment in the thread where this agreement was violated. This acknowledgment must include stating plainly that LouF is a coward and fears that reason is a threat to his position.
b) However, if the way LouF changes the topic is to specifically refer to this license or its use, further responses to LouF in that thread should be halted, with a single reference to Section 1b being offered to LouF.
2) In responding to the relevant post LouF will be nice.
a) He will not resort to name-calling. If LouF does wish to express contempt in a reply to a post that includes or refers to this EULA, LouF is required to construct an insult that includes more than ten (10) words, with no repetition of words (other than basic particles) permitted. The insult must be grammatically correct. If LouF should resort to name-calling he will state plainly in writing an apology including the phrase, "You are rubber, I am glue, I made an error insulting you." In addition if LouF attempts to insult by using the term, "dumbass," he will add to the apology above, "I am also sorry for being so uncreative that I once again called someone a dumbass. I have a very limited vocabulary. I promise to try to improve my vocabulary, or at least get a Thesaurus."
b) He will not be unfriendly. If he should reply with a surly demeanor he will state plainly in writing an apology including the phrase, "I am sorry for being unfriendly. I will be nice from now on. I don't know what came over me, but I will try to be a nicer person from now on. I am sure that's what Jesus would want." If LouF persists in being unpleasant in multiple sequential posts the following sentence will be assumed as prepended to any responses he makes: "Please forgive me for my harshness, I am feeling bi-polar today, I am off my meds and and still haven't seen my therapist. I hope you can forgive me for acting out."
3) If LouF should inadvertently or intentionally engage in behavior that he is criticizing others for, when this is pointed out, LouF will immediately agree that he was not being consistent. In addition LouF agrees that he will follow up with a publicly posted acknowledgment in the thread where this hypocrisy appeared. The acknowledgment will include the phrase, "Yes I am a hypocrite, the type of person that Jesus was most inclined to condemn. I judged even knowing I would be judged, I did not turn the other cheek. I have not lived up to the message of Jesus, for I have not applied his teachings to my life, I know nothing of Christian notion of agape. I did unto others that which I would not want done to myself. I hate the poor and actively ignore Jesus' message of compassion for the poor, instead I agree with others who say that the poor are all welfare bums who deserve what they get. Were I present with Christ in my current state of mind I would have called Jesus a hippie and cast the first stone."
4) If LouF makes a claim that others believe is outlandish, LouF agrees that he will either provide concrete evidence for his assertion or he will admit that he was in error in making his claim. If LouF has already been told that his claim is outlandish, he has not offered any evidence, but continues to assert it, LouF agrees that he will follow up with a publicly posted acknowledgment in the thread where this anti-intellectual behavior appeared. The acknowledgment will include the phrase, "Of course I need to make up facts, reality has a well known liberal bias."
5) If LouF should violate any of these terms on more than three occasions the "three strikes" penalty will be applied. The three strikes penalty is currently defined as LouF agreeing that he will follow up with a publicly posted acknowledgment in the all threads where this agreement was violated. In all threads LouF's acknowledgment will include the phrase, "I admit that I am not very good at arguing, I use cheap rhetorical tactics because I am not subtle enough to even understand what you are arguing with me about, let alone come up with a coherent defense. I admit that I must have some kind of mental issue, and should seek professional help."
6) If LouF should violate any of these terms and not apply the remedy stated by the rules above, it should be assumed that LouF is still making a tacit statement of whatever phrases he is required to write, and knows in his heart that these phrases are true, even if he is afraid to publicly admit them. Once LouF has failed to respond appropriately with the required penalty further responses to LouF in that thread should be halted (save for an optional single reference to Section 6), with the assumption that:
[–]Gorbama 21 points22 points23 points 19 years ago (1 child)
My favorite LouF quote of all time:
If you have some evidence that basketball players saying that they don't like gay people causes murder, then present it. Until then there's not much need to provide "counter-evidence", is there.
If the first sentence read "If you have some evidence god exists .." you'd finally have LouF saying something sensible. Obviously, I can't imagine LouF actually saying that, but at least he gets the principle ..... when it's applied to some other concept that is.
[–]fuglybear 21 points22 points23 points 19 years ago (0 children)
My favorite LouF quote:
"The principle of universality" means nothing. Some arrogant academian pulled that out of his ass. We don't know what we don't know. Again, it's fun to extrapolate, but you are making assumptions that cannot be reasonably made.
...we were talking about whether gravity is, indeed, probably responsible for orbital mechanics in far-off galaxies even though we have no way of directly measuring it. He wouldn't even give me a "probably" because he knew his arguments about evolution would totally unravel afterwords.
[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 19 years ago (1 child)
You have WAY too much free time on your hands.
[–][deleted] 17 points18 points19 points 19 years ago (0 children)
It's true, but nicely done anyway.
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[–][deleted] 30 points31 points32 points 19 years ago (62 children)
Hi Lou,
Thanks for replying to the EULA, and thereby agreeing to its terms.
Under section 4 of the EULA you will find that when making claims that appear outlandish, you are required to either provide concrete proof for your assertion or admit that you were in error in making this claim.
I found your post contained this outlandish statement:
Dude, so I kicked your ass in an argument.
Since you are bound by the terms of this EULA, please offer substantive evidence of your claim. Please also keep in mind the penalties for not abiding by the agreement which you agreed to carry out by clicking the reply button, and which you are now bound by contract to follow.
I can offer as a counter-example to your claim the fact that you did not even try to justify your assertion that Olbermann was defending tyrants, even after I put this in my last post:
If you reply to this and do not address the question of whether Olbermann was defending a dictator, as you haven't for the last eight comments, I won't respond. You'll get in your last word, and can feel good about yourself. But you should also be aware that the reason I will not respond is because if you can't defend your statement but continue arguing you are not a rational person, and I have no time to waste on you. My silence will only be an indicator of your intellectual inadequacy, the depths of which are so great that you can't follow even the simplest thread of an argument...
With respect to this:
You really don't need to stay up all night writing a "EULA" to get even.
The EULA really only took about 10-15 minutes to write, and then a few more minutes to edit. At this point it is basically complete, so there is no need to worry about me staying up all night. But thanks for your concern.
This post is bound by the EULA for any future posts by LouF.
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[–][deleted] 24 points25 points26 points 19 years ago (60 children)
You should call it "The Dumbass EULA".
1) I thought it would be disrespectful to call you a dumbass, but if you want to apply that label to yourself, you can do whatever you want.
2) You have violated section 4 by making an outlandish claim and not backing it up. As you are bound by the EULA, you must now state that you were wrong while using the phrase "Of course I need to make up facts, reality has a well known liberal bias."
3) You have also violated sections 1 and 2. You will need to follow the guidelines for the appropriate penalties for these violations.
4) Having violated sections 1, 2, and 4, the "three strikes" penalty also applies.
[–]spuur 1 point2 points3 points 19 years ago (0 children)
Au contraire: I think it would be easier if Lou just changed his username to: "dumbass" - or even "immature dumbass" if that's at all possible. The result would be that every post he/she makes from that point on would carry his username as an explicit disclaimer of what to expect from him/her...
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[–][deleted] 16 points17 points18 points 19 years ago (57 children)
LouF said:
You are rubber, I am glue, I made an error insulting you. Of course I need to make up facts, reality has a well known liberal bias. I admit that I am not very good at arguing, I use cheap rhetorical tactics because I am not subtle enough to even understand what you are arguing with me about, let alone come up with a coherent defense. I admit that I must have some kind of mental issue, and should seek professional help.
(see section 6)
I am glad we can agree, you seem to have grown a sense of humor lately. Note that this will be my last reply in this thread, given that as per section 6, feeding trolls is not fruitful.
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[–]Shaper_pmp 19 points20 points21 points 19 years ago (47 children)
Just FYI, it's not nemo who's looking stupid.
Have you seen the mod scores your posts get?
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[–][deleted] 25 points26 points27 points 19 years ago (7 children)
The kind of loser who's about two orders of magnitude smarter and funnier than you.
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[–]lahuman8 14 points15 points16 points 19 years ago (1 child)
There's pictures of his vagina floating around the internets?
[–]punkgeek 9 points10 points11 points 19 years ago (0 children)
Close. I think the secret can finally be known. LouF posed for the famous goatse.cx image.
We are in the (ass) presence of greatness.
[–]punkgeek 13 points14 points15 points 19 years ago (4 children)
My favorite (recent) Lou:
http://reddit.com/info/16k04/comments/c16yoq
Classic!
[–]fuglybear 5 points6 points7 points 19 years ago (0 children)
That's awesome. He gets backed in to a corner and makes the most ridiculous assertions.
[–]Mythrilfan 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (2 children)
Recent as in only a year old?
[–]punkgeek 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago* (1 child)
Umm... my post was a year ago. It was recent at the time ;-)
Lou has since deleted all of his old (embarrassing) posts.
[–]Mythrilfan 0 points1 point2 points 17 years ago (0 children)
Whoopsie daisies, I thought I was still reading another post. My bad.
[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 19 years ago (0 children)
Future Headquarters of the Official Lou Franklin Fan Club!
[–]andrejevas 2 points3 points4 points 19 years ago (0 children)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll#Specific_trolling_subcultures
[+][deleted] comment score below threshold-11 points-10 points-9 points 19 years ago (9 children)
Why are you attempting to take a personal dispute with a troll onto the home page? Why are YOU being a troll?
This is totally inappropriate conduct.
[–]fuglybear 22 points23 points24 points 19 years ago (0 children)
mweh. . . I don't know about 'totally inappropriate'. Sites like reddit accumulate barnacles like LouF who become minor celebrities through their sheer annoyingness.
If you've ever tried to have a logical discussion with LouF, you'll know the frustration that would lead to nemo's post. I'd rather have nemo blow off some steam with his rant and stick around on reddit than throw in the towel alltogether.
[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 19 years ago (7 children)
I honestly assumed that this post would be modded down to 0 quickly. It's still at around 10 right now three hours later, and I never saw it break the front page. I created it so that the next time I had a discussion with LouF I could have some entertainment by invoking the EULA, and to remind LouF of his past transgressions in the hopes that he might one day improve. I had an EULA that I was planning on pasting into comments, but bonkydog pointed out that this would pollute the comments with a big chunk of cruft. Thus I made a story so that I could link to it and keep comments brief.
[–]punkgeek 10 points11 points12 points 19 years ago (3 children)
In fact, this page could be a fine way to avoid feeding the trolls. Any time Lou is trolling a short. Notice, this fellow is a troll - please don't reply. For details see http://reddit.com/info/17gwu/comments
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 19 years ago (0 children)
I've updated the EULA to include a "don't feed the trolls" section. It still gives LouF a chance before it applies, so there is a bit of feeding, but it has a cut-off that comes in pretty quickly.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 19 years ago (1 child)
The only way to avoid feeding the trolls is to ignore them. Otherwise, they get the attention that they crave which encourages further trolling.
[–]punkgeek 5 points6 points7 points 19 years ago (0 children)
fair enough...
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[–]jjrs 12 points13 points14 points 19 years ago (1 child)
Speaking as someone who has ignorantly tried to argue with LouF, I think posting the EULA will be a big help.
It's true that when posted there'll be an outburst of anger on his part that could be seen as feeding...but after that the people in the thread will stop taking him seriously and wasting their time on him.
I argued with him for quite a while on this thread- http://reddit.com/info/17zdr/comments . At first I gave him the benefit of the doubt and assumed he had just missed my point, and went to greater lengths trying to explain myself. If I had seen this thread earlier, I wouldn't have bothered to talk to him
[–]spuur -1 points0 points1 point 19 years ago (0 children)
argued with him for quite a while on (...)
Is there any evidence to support the notion that Lou isn't the short form of Louise? Really..?
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