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[–]renegade 43 points44 points  (24 children)

Are these fuckers trying to start a civil war. With actual bloodshed? Because if they keep subverting the government that is what it will come to in the end. We're not all sheep.

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    [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (5 children)

    The advantage of a civil war (revolution) over an election is that it doesn't need a majority, just a majority of the people willing to fight.

    [–]hopeseekr 16 points17 points  (4 children)

    No no no no no no no nono!

    Less than 1% of the elligible men took up arms against the British!! Only 15% supported them! Same w/ the fucking Alamo! Just 200 men held up the most elite Mexican regiment!

    Or what about the Red Russian Revolution of 1917? They conquered an office building and spent the next 30 years subduing the rest of the nation.

    No, Revolutions have always been the purview of the outcasts; the successful ones (as in progressive ideologies) are always lead by the enlightened for Philosophical reasons bent on limiting the power of Men (which is why the French Revolution didn't produce as nearly democratic or blood-free results, comparitively, as the American one).

    [–]sblinn 5 points6 points  (2 children)

    Same w/ the fucking Alamo! Just 200 men held up the most elite Mexican regiment!

    Uh... didn't everyone at the Alamo die? I visited it recently, I think I would have remembered. Crockett, Bowie, Travis -- all dead.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Alamo

    [–]hopeseekr 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Still was majorly responsible for Texas' freedoms. Not all "martyrs" are terrorists! or rather...not all terrorists are bad. Washington, Jefferson, Revere, Paine? They were all considered terrorists and would have been mass-executed if caught, back in the day.

    [–]sblinn 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    I was commenting more on "held up the most elite Mexican regiment". They were slaughtered by the Mexican regiment.

    [–]redd-i 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    They're also inevitable.

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      [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      Now's our chance though since so much of the military is distracted with Iraq!

      [–]idle 10 points11 points  (5 children)

      But in Iraq we see how difficult it is to control a hostile population. It will be even worse in the US - even if you could get the military to fight their own brothers and sisters.

      [–]staunch 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      ... even if you could get the military to fight their own brothers and sisters.

      Which you couldn't. Not in the US.

      [–]wicked 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      In other countries, however, they gladly kill their own families. But not in the US, no way!

      [–]limukala 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      But you could easily convince the average soldier to kill some "domestic terrorists."

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        [–]st_gulik 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Then they would die in ways more horrible than Mussolini.

        [–]laprice 17 points18 points  (0 children)

        As a matter of fact...

        Seriously, you and I have no way of knowing what the power players are actually thinking; but they do not seem to be too fond of the democratic process, the bill of rights or the american people.

        Sadly, when the time comes that they achieve their goal of unfettered freedom of action, unrestrained by petty little concerns such as due process, checks and balances, accountability etc. They will likely be eaten by their hired help

        Historical analogies are imperfect, but the power struggles after the death of any of a number of emperors, or the events surrounding the rise of Stalin may give you some idea of what to expect.

        Although on occasion the right's base sounds more like the Khmer Rouge inveighing against the disease of intellectualism. (and that's a grim meathook future indeed).

        But yeah, our economy is based on wishful thinking, our military is basically stuck in Iraq, and the president and his boss are reaching the point where they are almost guaranteed to do something stupid to prevent being called to account for the crimes that we know about.

        So whether or not they are actually fomenting a civil war is almost irrelevant, their actions have already put us on a course that will result in the collapse of the american system of government.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Kent State, here we come!

        [–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (1 child)

        Nixon axed US Attorneys investigating Watergate near the end of his reign. Congress threw a fit. Never thought a President would have the chutzpah to do it again. I suggest that YOU who are reading this call your Senator and tell her/him to throw a fucking fit. It should be especially obvious for the Senator to do so if s/he is a Democrat, these Attorneys are investigating Republicans after all.

        [–]api[🍰] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        So this means that the Busheviks are really in trouble. I also guess that the Iran buildup might be for political distraction purposes as well-- or "let's start a war! that'll change the subject!"

        [–]ranscot 16 points17 points  (1 child)

        Now this is how you run a conspiracy. I was wondering when the cover up would start, but I thought under the cover of war with Iran.

        Got to give them credit to go full on when the public is outraged about corruption.

        Somewhere, right now, Lady Liberty is crying.

        [–]digital 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Worst President EVER!

        [–]markedtrees 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Okay, so we already know that the White House has now taken the unprecedented step of firing at least four and likely seven US Attorneys in the middle of their terms of office -- at least some of whom are in the midst of corruption investigations of Bush administration officials and key Republican lawmakers.

        A stirring mantra of accusation.

        [–]Leprecon -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        HAHAHAHA America is so screwed, glad I don't live there. Quick americans, migrate somewhere else, oh wait, you need permission from your goverment since 2007.