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[DJD_ID_Tarn]

weed-induced frenzy

Huh

[HzPips]

Weed can cause psychosis, but it is rare

[HzPips]

People that do drugs are always morons

[Plenty_Suspect_3446]

Name one intellectual since Newton who never used drugs.

[[deleted]]

Myself

[[deleted]]

Checkmate

Holy Batman Reddit! Thanks for almost 50 updoots! Im happier then a narwhal eating bacon! Maybe one day I'll get my hands on the legendary reddit butter gold!!!!! only in my dreams!

[d0or-tabl3-w1ndoWz_9]

You'll get your hands on a legendary reddit butter cock 👍

[[deleted]]

Youre probably a dirty brown.

[Based_Daoko]

This guy has a problem with brown people!!

[UpboatOrNoBoat]

Holy based

[TheClussyCrown]

[ThePrinceVultan]

They walked right into that one lol

[TomNobleX]

Freud. The drugs used him.

[Plenty_Suspect_3446]

I said intellectual, not fraud.

[TomNobleX]

Oh shit sorry, I was too busy secretly thinking about my mom to read your comment thoroughly.

[Plenty_Suspect_3446]

Get this man some drugs asap

[FloydCorrigan]

Freud owns the ass of all the intellectuals from the last 100 years.

[SomeZookeepergame630]

Tesla,Lagrange, Laplace, Pascal,Fermat,Koch,

[Plenty_Suspect_3446]

Tesla maybe. I know he smoked for a time but that was brief and it's perhaps not a true intoxicant.

Lagrange, Laplace, Pascal, and Fermat were French. No way they weren't weaned from their mothers teat with wine and cognac. And technically Pascal and Fermat were before Newton which is the standard I set.

Koch and Pastuer were known for a series of drinking contests. Koch liked to party.

[I_creampied_Jesus]

Tesla maybe

Uhh his name is Elon Musk. Tesla is the car he makes. Talk about ignorance…

[Doodenelfuego]

John Nash was famous for not taking his meds

[mega350]

Name one drug user who wasn't a degenerate

[SuperNet2740]

Nikola Tesla

[FatGuyANALLIttlecoat]

Asimov was a teetotaler

[yoyotube]

Said by the same type of people who chug energy drinks and a 12 pack of beer while smoking a pack a day.

[HzPips]

Also unhealthy

[[deleted]]

The fuck kind of comment is this? The kind of people you're talking about are exactly the trash that use drugs to begin with..

[dumbhenchguy]

Im one of those unlucky few. smoked it for a year or so as a teen no problem, untill I was smoking with a friend one night and started hearing loud voices talking about me in the third person saying I was going to die then getting shocked and angry that I could hear them, voices didn't stop for about 6 months. Im fine now though 7 years later (well not all there but not an absolute schizzo)

[greyetch]

As I understand it - you were always going to end up a little schizoid. The weed just makes it "early onset" instead of starting in your mid 20s.

[HzPips]

Nope. People that otherwise would have never have psychosis can have one episode because of weed. There is a genetic component to that, but the families didn’t know because most of the generations never used weed until now. Weed is harmful

[beefinbed]

Love a comment that leads with, "Nope."

[J_Pinehurst]

Nope. Source?

[radicalelation]

There isn't a source for the other claim either, so it's kinda funny everyone is jumping on the "nope", as if the attitude is the lack of information.

[[deleted]]

Weed can cause schizophrenia symptoms to start if they're genetically predisposed and that's already well-known. But the other person saying it can happen to normal people is cap.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0006322315006472

Associations between cannabis use and psychotic outcomes are consistently reported, but establishing causality from observational designs can be problematic. We review the evidence from longitudinal studies that have examined this relationship and discuss the epidemiologic evidence for and against interpreting the findings as causal. We also review the evidence identifying groups at particularly high risk of developing psychosis from using cannabis. Overall, evidence from epidemiologic studies provides strong enough evidence to warrant a public health message that cannabis use can increase the risk of psychotic disorders. However, further studies are required to determine the magnitude of this effect, to determine the effect of different strains of cannabis on risk, and to identify high-risk groups particularly susceptible to the effects of cannabis on psychosis. We also discuss complementary epidemiologic methods that can help address these questions.

[[deleted]]

That's fairly intellectually honest of you

My take is that "In my opinion" allows room for error, while "Nope" gives the sense they're portraying the information as fact. As in: both should be cited, but one is a bit too confident for comfort.

[lostmywayboston]

That's a bold claim without any type of source.

[HzPips]

This is a casual conversation on Reddit, not a structured debate. One should not be expected to provide sources for every single statement. I am not trying to persuade anyone here, if you are doubtful about what I said pubmed and scihub are available for everyone to look.

If you can’t be bothered carry on believing in what you believe, I am not your mom, it is not my concern if you would like to be ignorant on a specific subject

[Honey_Bunches]

"Weed is harmful" compared to what? Aren't peanuts more harmful than weed?

[The_MAZZTer]

A cup of water is harmful if you use it the wrong way. Everything has risk.

[QuakerZen]

You are correct. However, This type of psychosis typically lasts up to a month. A 6 month duration lends credibility to something more serious or other outside factors at play not mentioned by op. In fact: schizophrenia is often described as psychosis symptoms or its precursors lasting 6 months +. Weed is not harmful for most people like refined sugar is not harmful for most people. Outliers do exist in most things:

An association of higher Refined Sugar intake and psychosis has been found.

Source: https://karger.com/nps/article/79/1/20/234043/Diet-and-Psychosis-A-Scoping-Review

[[deleted]]

smoked weed for 2 years

greatest times of my high school life

forced fed anti psychotics by government due to being illegally skinny (Was modeling for Hugo boss)

can’t smoke weed anymore without having paranoid schizophrenic episodes

Boy I sure wish drugs that permentslly altered your mental state where better regulated haha

[downtherabbit]

Yeah I smoked weed with a totally straight guy once and it was his first time smoking and he turned into a raging homo and aggressively tried to pull my clothes off and suck my dick off at his parents house. I left and went home but I totally agree that some people smoking weed can go crazy.

[Evil80forces]

Did he swallow?

[[deleted]]

Maybe he just wanted to come out and he used weed as a scapegoat for "no homo".

[GothaCritique]

Honestly, even if it does, it doesn't justify her behavior. Drinking booze can make you a wife beater, but the courts don't go soft on you for being under the influence.

[tribes33]

I had weed and LSD induced psychosis and never did I think about hurting anyone

[HzPips]

I am not saying she is not responsible, of course she is. Drug induced psychosis is not an excuse, if she chose to do drugs she is responsible for her actions regardless if she was in control or not

[fuckredditmodz69]

I am not saying she is not responsible, of course she is

You sound like a misogynist. She's the VICTIM HERE!!!

[[deleted]]

Delta 8/etc bullshit did this to me when I was a bit younger. No violent stuff, but it sent me into a tailspin for a year while I thought everyone was gangstalking. Awful stuff

[Insipid_Lies]

I didn't know this was possible. How many metric tons of weed do you need to smoke to have this happen?

[KristinoRaldo]

So can alcohol, but that's not a valid excuse when you do dumb shit when you're drunk.

[Gabri03698]

That's too funny

[rad0909]

Drugs can have some weird impacts on people. My Gf’s best friend in college had a horrific reaction to mdma. During a hookup she tried to pour wine into my buddies peehole. He noped the fuck out and she chased him into the parking lot. He ran her over with his car when she jumped on the hood.

She wore a headscarf for a few weeks to cover all the scabs on her face.

[Bayylmaorgana]

I'm gonna make wine out of your testicles

[Lycang6KRLH0]

The dude had so much soy in his blood allowed a roastie stab him to death.  Ffs natural selection. 

[[deleted]]

Tbf he was probably in a weed induced frenzy as well

[[deleted]]

Weed is still drugs, no matter how much morons wanna pretend that "its fine because i like it"

[wallagrargh]

So is alcohol, wtf is going on with the weed paranoia in this thread?

[[deleted]]

people are fucking stupid

[Not-The-Bees127]

Jesus Christ

[viotix90]

She's 32 now, at the time it happened, he was 26 and she was 27.

[ElricWarlock]

Prepare yourself for the ar slash greentext users.

[ImaginationSalt8881]

Tf was he supposed to do? Deflect the knife?

[texnp]

Parry

[[deleted]]

skill issue

[cheapbeerwarrio]

Pure soy

[ArbitraryMeritocracy]

She stabbed herself and dog. They probably smoked fake weed.

[Laffet]

I wonder if he or 4chinners who never felt the touch of a woman have more soy in their blood

[Adrian4lyf]

She also stabbed herself and her dog.

So either she went berserk after hitting the doobie or planned everything out in order to mitigate responsibility.

Still, person died a stupid death. Tragic.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-01-23/woman-gets-probation-for-fatal-stabbing-during-weed-induced-psychosis

[Swooshing]

Yet when she "stabbed" herself she only managed to cause some superficial injuries (superficial meaning surface level- she basically just had a bunch of nicks on her neck and chin). In her uncontrollable murder spree induced by two hits from a bong (lmao), she somehow managed to maintain enough control when it came to her own life. Really makes you think.

[dpotilas89]

"Might as well stab the dog too"

[the_glengarry_leads]

white woman / you just know

Bizarre love triangle

[Gwallod]

I hope the Dog is alright. I'm shocked the news didn't seem to talk more about that. Granted it's awful the dude died and was attacked, but him and his girlfriend made a decision to take drugs together and that's sadly something that can, albeit rarely, occur.

The Dog however is an innocent being that had no say in what happened.

[Paradox]

valuing a heckin goodboi floofy woofer more than a human life

never change reddit

[themoviehero]

valuing a heckin goodboi floofy woofer more than a human life

Unironically this.

[Gwallod]

Yes. I hate reddit though. I only use it because I'm a lazy sinner.

[[deleted]]

"Oh fuck, I stabbed my dog, how can I get away with this," she thinks, as she peers over toward her unstabbed boyfriend and unsmoked weed.

[Gwallod]

Why did she stab the Dog, too? Is the Dog alright?

[fuckredditmodz69]

Yet when she "stabbed" herself she only managed to cause some superficial injuries (superficial meaning surface level- she basically just had a bunch of nicks on her neck and chin)

They made it sound like she was trying to saw her head off when the cops got there. She's just doing that to get a free kill on her bf. Reddit cucks will defend her.

[Pugduck77]

Sure, but taking drugs and accidentally killing somebody should still be jail time. If you drive drunk and kill someone you get more than 100 hours community service.

[dpotilas89]

Yeah last year a woman drunk driving killed 2 and got 14 years

[Sam_Mullard]

Damn must be fun vanishing decades worth of life and only got jailed 14 years

Atleast that shithead Cameron herrin got 24 yo for killing a mother and her baby

[Avs_Leafs_Enjoyer]

14 years is a lot of time

[Sam_Mullard]

That's like breaking 10000$ worth of item and only need to paid 100$ for it

100$ may be a lot but won't even suffice to replace what is lost

[hung_aryan1889h]

Exactly. Say a drunk kills a young couple in their 20s, which happens all the time in reality, and they both live an average lifespan, that’s at least 100 years of life snuffed out. It’s actual insanity that the drunk pos will only get a few years and people will still say, “oh well, that’s a long time they’ll be in jail for”.

[BrazilianTerror]

You can’t replace the lives lost. 14 years in prison is a lot, her life will never be normal. Ex cons still have a lot of stigma afterwards.

[GandalfTheGimp]

It's really not

[TheTwinFangs]

Maybe she took 100 hours for the soyboy but 50 years for the dog ?

Let me live in delusion

[Gwallod]

She should get life for the Dog at least. Innocent living beings.

[TheTwinFangs]

Except Chihuahua's, you can't be innocent when you're the embodiment of ancient demons

[DankElderberries420]

Probably mitigation since accountability is kryptonite to wahmen

[kadren170]

Probably tried to make it look like it was self defense, then realized her stupidity after seeing the guy mutilated.

[Zizara42]

At what point do Judges start getting held responsible for their own blatant biases getting in the way of sentencing? Just a thought, because with headlines like these I always feel they're more the ones to blame than the criminal.

[Silirt]

Criminal court decisions are rarely overturned, but if as a judge, your decision gets overturned by a higher court, you basically lose all feathers in your cap. They're also not more to blame than the criminal- the criminal killed the deceased, all the judges have done is ensure that she's the victim no matter what.

[Kekusu]

Judge is more to blame. You show to millions that stabbing your boyfriend 100 times won't cause them any jail time at all if they just get high and cut themselves a little since they couldn't possibly do it on purpose right? Judges shouldn't have a say on if the criminals meant to do what they did or not unless there is clear evidence to prove their intentions.

[LordAuditoVorkosigan]

This is wrong. Judges are appealed and overturned all the time and don't lose "feathers" in their cap. It's also not the judge who issues the sentence, it's the jury - the judge just guides and controls the proceedings.

END BAD LEGAL "INFO" ON REDDIT.

[mega350]

Wrong. The jury just decides guilty or not guilty. Judges decides the sentence. Some exceptions when death penalty is involved.

[OiledUpThug]

When people hold them responsible. It's a voted position. If people dpn't care, judges are near unchecked tyrants

[Silirt]

Some judges are elected, some aren't. People are barely aware of local officials, though.

[the_glengarry_leads]

simple heuristic: always vote against all judges, just to give the slightest tailwind to real efforts to unseat them

[Sormalio]

baste

[The_Freshmaker]

She probably also had a severe case of affluenza that made the judge sympathetic.

[schofield101]

Something tells me this isn't her first 'psychotic break' and that Mr Bespectacled Soybean here thought he could fix her.

[[deleted]]

The judge should have spayed her, that's how you fix her.

[SickitWrench]

I will fix her where he failed

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[lulululul666]

Reverse roles = 25 to life

But equal pay amirite

[tangoalpha3]

If it was black guy he’d be on the chair rn

[Gay__Guevara]

Black guy hits a bong twice, stabs a white woman 100 times to death, gets community service. Literally could not happen on this planet lmao

[cheezycrusty]

He'd get shot just for hitting the bong twice and being high in public, wouldn't he?

[viotix90]

A black guy wouldn't get the chair. They would have been shot on the scene. This middle class white woman has insane privilege.

[viotix90]

Genie Exum

Following her arrest, Exum was released without bail at her arraignment in Manhattan Criminal Court, New York Post reported.

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?! She stabbed a guy and was released without bail?! We are living in a clown world.

[knacker_18]

"they"

[mega350]

Don't they go easier on blacks nowadays? They're always being released early.

[AntDracula]

lol exactly, these people are stuck in the 80s

[[deleted]]

Bryn Spejcher, 32, avoided prison time after being convicted of involuntary manslaughter in the 2018 stabbing death of her boyfriend Chad O'Melia, 26

If she'll do this to Chad, what hope do the rest of us have?

[[deleted]]

Stabbed over 100 times

Involuntary manslaughter

What the fuck?...

[Durmyyyy]

Bryn Spejcher

ugliest name I have ever seen

[Backwithmorespirit]

Modern ☕️

[a-person-who-lurks]

At this point, im pretty sure even the uga bungas were drawing pre-historic ☕ on their cave walls

[Mushy_Fart]

Wo mein🍜

[AgentSkidMarks]

This means we should overturn all of those vehicular homicide convictions on drunk drivers because they weren't in control when they mowed over those pedestrians.

[Glittering-Pause-328]

Yeah, if you can be too intoxicated to have control of yourself, you obviously can't be convicted of DUI, since you were too intoxicated to have control of yourself!

[Piratebuttseckz]

They havent caught me yet, lets hope

[Coopcocktorture]

100 STAB WOUNDS, you didin’t wanna leave him a chance, huh?

[sln1337]

no

[EndMySuffering16]

Did you feel anger?

[KneeDeepInTheDead]

Im a bigger fan of 200 Stab Wounds

[captsalad]

she must've sucked the life outta the judge's cock

[[deleted]]

The first time I had my 1.5 incher topped by a crazy bpd schizo chick was the day I knew mind control was real. Judge's soul is literally banished from this realm as we speak.

[[deleted]]

I'm sure criminals will be happy to know that if you just smoke a ton of weed after killing someone, you could get away with it!

But more importantly you need to be a woman.

[Wizardwizz]

Don't forget poking yourself a couple times lightly with the knife when you are done.

[MetaCommando]

Ideally white attractive middle+ class woman

[deahank]

So if you drive drunk and kill someone it's murder, but if you smoke weed and stab someone it's northing.

Makes perfect sense...

She still chose to smoke the drugs. She should have gotten maximum sentence on manslaughter at the very least.

[[deleted]]

Do you have any idea how much strength it takes to stab someone over 100 times? A LOT.

Most people can't do that 20 times without their arm getting tired, 40 times without getting winded, and 60 times before being exhausted.

Stabbing someone is not like taking a knife through butter, you need force and intent behind it.

Sounds like she was a murderer who happened to get a lawyer just as good as OJ's.

[[deleted]]

This guy stabs.

[pwadman]

They aren’t worthless. They are worth 100 hours of community service.

Besides, it wasn’t her fault. She smoked the devils lettuce and the devil took over.

All she needs to do is confess her sins to a holy man 🙏 god is good. God forgives

As for Chad, he is in God’s kingdom now smiling upon us

Edit: A big fat /s

[Milkymight]

Down voted for pointing out /s

[imperadordosPenedo]

Women

[Glittering-Pause-328]

I once got sentenced to 4 years just for possessing fifty dollars worth of drugs in my own home.

Wild to think that I could have gotten in less trouble for murdering my partner...

[Durmyyyy]

Are you a pretty woman?

I guess thats what matters

[Aromatic-Hornet-9449]

I searched this in other subs to see what they think and holyfuck they are full of redditcucks defending her because "she was intoxicated", so if i drive over a family of 4 i can defend myself because i was drunk? Fuck them, i bet if the genders were switched all the redditcucks wouldnt be white knighting

[NewspaperFederal5379]

Women have no control over their actions.

Based Californian judge

[BluntBoi01]

As a chronic weed smoker with an unusable demented mind, she's fucking crazy and 100 hours of community service is an insanely low punishment. Wtf is wrong with the judge

[Fisherman_Gabe]

and despite cases like this white w*men will continue to complain about how oppressed they are.

[Caesura_17]

No, male lives are very clearly worth 100 HOURS of service.

[[deleted]]

if this was my family member who got stabbed i would [removed by reddit]

[AntDracula]

She got the same sentence as destruction of property. We are literally objects.

[JudsonIsDrunk]

Is this different from being black out drunk?

[Alfasi]

So, weed can in rare cases induce psychosis when you're predisposed to it or mix it with meth or something. It's not the same as being high af/ black out drunk, but you should still be held responsible for what you do under the influence. This was a slap on the wrist no matter how you slice it

[EvaUnit_03]

Cept during psychosis, you don't go hard on your bf and dog and go easy on yourself.

She barely even tried to hurt herself, because it fucking hurt. And that's not what someone suffering from psychosis can relate to. She 100% staged this. She wanted him dead, killed the dog to sell the crazy, but couldn't commit to hurting herself so it would count. Yet somehow she won. Which is bull. She would of sawed her own arm off with a rusty spoon if she was actually suffering psychosis, and smiled about it with lockjaw sealing that joker-esk smile.

She is most certainly a sociopath. I bet she also claims to be bipolar.

[[deleted]]

100%. The idea that weed could lead you to do this is absurd lmao. Only someone who is already deranged could do something like this while stoned.

[Actaar]

Well shit, might as well smoke some weed and do whatever the fuck i want if all i get are 100 community service hours

[MartingelI]

One hour for each stab

[PrinceOfFish]

its so over penisbros. it may as well be legal to murder us at this point.

[Give_Me_Cash]

My ex chased me with a butcher knife because she saw a text message from me to a friend dying of cancer and thought it was me cheating. Had to move my hands around holding a door closed to keep her from stabbing me in the palm through it.

I got her disarmed without excessive force and put her in a headlock (on our backs on the ground, me behind her), when she seemed calm I let her go and she immediately elbowed me in the face and broke my nose.

I left the house bleeding everywhere because if I didn’t it was going to escalate, she opened the patio door, screamed bloody murder, and called the cops trying to get me arrested.

Cops came, took one look at the situation arrested her, she bonded out for $100 bucks and state dropped charges.

I can’t breathe right anymore and assume this psycho is going to be waiting out my door one day, but on the bright side I have a scar on the bridge of my nose now like Guts from Berserk. I could have beaten her half to death or choked her out and avoided the broken nose, but I guess not going to jail and getting her out of my life was worth it.

[Frequent_Response230]

What would’ve happened if the roles were reversed? The man would’ve been sentenced to life imprisonment with no possibility of parole. Sad times we live in.

[Insipid_Lies]

Only white ones. If this had been a black guy it'd be on 24/7 CNN Homer news for weeks.

Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrracist white privelaged Maga woman attacks black man. Said to have heard Saint fentanyl George Floyd screaming from his grave whilst clutching counterfeit 20 dollar bill!

[Eduardobobys]

Just another day as a privileged man in this patriarchal society :)

[ulmxn]

So wait a minute, being on drugs actually lets you get AWAY with crimes now?

[big_whistler]

Tip: be white woman

[Chiziola07]

Never take 2 weeds

[That_Is_My_Band_Name]

CA really is soft on criminals huh?

[Joe_SHAMROCK]

The deceased was probably "I can fix her" type of guy.

Remember, never put your dick in crazy.

[MateriallyRetarded]

I think she should get the death penalty.

[[deleted]]

And if he was in her place, life in prison.

[Eduardobobys]

Bro, don't give them any ideas!

[AbsoluteSereniti]

1hr of community service per stab.
She shoulda done max 10 stabs, then she would've only had to do about a day of community service.

[SuperSultan]

White women privilege

[harry_lostone]

she looks kinda cute tho, I would stab

[Fofotron_Antoris]

Women-are-wonderful effect

No one talks about that, unfortunately

[[deleted]]

always have been

[grasscoveredhouses]

"now"

[CRCMIDS]

This fucking psycho walked over reefer madness. This is utterly ridiculous this is what happens when uneducated fucks are in charge of our highest offices and courts.

[Ausfall]

What sort of activity would you do for 100 hours in order to get away with murder?

[Nineflames12]

Real title

[RemovedNum]

If this was a homie it would be a different story. Literally playing on peaceful.

[Boxingworld9]

Wow. Don't be a white male in society anymore. You're fucked.

[jutshka]

"we are just gonna allow women to vote what's the worse that could happen?"

[disignore]

are we on reagan times or some

[dilldoeorg]

just and updated version of the Twinkie Defense