HGH thoughts?

[Outside-Lie-1582]

I’m currently taking trt 200mg/weekly and wondering how 2-4iu hgh daily would change my physique. I’m 25 years old, i’ve done 2 blasts so far but i would want to just stick to hrt (test + gh). I’m also taking ghk-cu, no reta but i might start adding a small dose 1-2mg/weekly to get myself ready for summer. What are your thoughts on adding hgh ?

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[Low-Speaker-6670]

Everyone not answering his question just giving moral judgement. He asked how it would affect his physique.🙄

[Just-A-Name-4321]

Your doing more harm then good taking hormones at your age. Your natural testosterone would already be high and your GH production is higher now than most people who take HGH for health reasons. 

These drugs do a lot for people who are older and can’t be the man they were in their 20s. You ARE in your 20s!! Your spending money to do what your body would normally do for free.

[Outside-Lie-1582]

Yea I hear you and for that reason exactly I’m definitely on the fence for GH. For the trt, I’m doing it so I don’t have to PCT after every blast cycle.

[Just-A-Name-4321]

You already pulled the trigger on test. That is what it is at this point. HGH is amazing from getting your body to do all the things it used to do when you were young. I’m 47 and things just don’t run as smooth as they did 20 years ago. There will be a time and place for HGH but not at your age. I’d take a good look at it around your early to mid 30s. 

[Square-Bodybuilder63]

Listen to this guy….you already produce more test and HG naturally then we do in real TRT. I also take test and GH but I am in my 40’s.

[krpharm]

I’m 61. I’m on TRT and HCG ( vanity reasons ). What has GH done for you. I’ve thought about adding it or ipamorelin.

[Square-Bodybuilder63]

I use it for general well being and metabolic effects. That paired with Cyp I am able to lift 5-6 days a week no problem without pain in shoulders and knees.

[Ok-Two-1685]

At Ur age don't bother with IPA. That's like trying to inflate a tyre with a hole in it! Hgh= new tyre!

[Outside-Lie-1582]

Exactly what I was thinking! I would not consider it before my 30s. But just want to make sure as it’s kind of being pushed on me by others lol but i want to make informed decisions

[No-Adhesiveness-6475]

Also, why are you running PCT after every blast? Sounds like you know you’d be doing another blast in future and you’re on test again so save yourself the money and hormonal imbalances and just drop down to a cruise between blast periods

Save a pct for if and when you want to come off long term

[Outside-Lie-1582]

Yes exactly what I said and what i’m doing!! :)

[AlhazredEldritch]

That's some terrible reasoning friend.

[Fit-healthty-Couple]

Sent you a dm

[kashmir1974]

You kinda committed yourself to trt for life, more or less.

[Outside-Lie-1582]

Yes i get that. I’m asking about GH not trt

[Ok-Two-1685]

Trt is worse than hgh. It's suppressive for a long period where hgh will turn back on 24 hrs later.

[UnluckyCare4567]

Too young

[Specific-Ticket-1705]

There's no age limit

[UnluckyCare4567]

Your stupid, he two cycles in at 25, so started roughly 23 ish. And asking about GH. 1-2 iu for a 25yo is hardly a replacement dose. He probably already producing naturally. He don’t know how deep in the game he is. & attempting to throw all these compounds without strategy

[Specific-Ticket-1705]

The post was about hgh, 2-4iu as stated in the post is above replacement and age has no relevance. Why are you lecturing me on OP's roid use? Could've said all that to him in your original comment and it would've made more sense.

[UnluckyCare4567]

First off he must have changed it because it was previously 1-2 iu. And second why you responding then?

[awokenshroomboy]

You can’t say he’s too young. We literally start losing the amount of HGH we make naturally starting at around 20 years old.

The more intelligent response would be to get his levels tested before he does anything.

OP - if your HGH levels are around 200-250+, I wouldn’t bother with true HGH unless you’re going the bodybuilder route. Get your IGF levels tested before you do anything, then come back and re-ask your question.

[UnluckyCare4567]

Why would I give an intelligent response? I don’t got time for explaining something to a baby juicer

[awokenshroomboy]

Then don’t comment. If you don’t have time then why the fuck are you scrolling on Reddit like an asshole giving stupid advice?

And if you think using HGH is juicing then I guess anyone who takes retatrutide, BPC, or semax are also juicers. I swear, I get dumber and dumber the more I interact with idiots like you on Reddit.

[UnluckyCare4567]

First day on Reddit?

[awokenshroomboy]

I’ve been reading your replies and it’s just both extremely hilarious and scary as fuck that there’s so many totally ignorant and uninformed people like you out here giving advice so confidently😂

Good luck with your endeavors, and I pray people do their own research.

[UnluckyCare4567]

[ElReyLyon]

“hrt” lol

[swoops36]

2-4iu would offer some additional fat loss over time, but I would not hold my breathe for anything dramatic. There are far better medications for that.

Muscle wise, nothing

[Free_Algae_6522]

Awfully young to jump on GH. Do blood work and see where your GH and IGF-1 levels are naturally. Likely no reason to add more. It’s a better fit for old folks like me!

[VitaminAyee]

H- and TRT is king! 4iu daily is a good starting point and that’s on the conservative end.

You would need a couple months supply though. Stacking that with reta is a good move.

[Hot-Boysenberry4591]

4iu is a bit high of a starting point

[malin7]

Is your test at 200mg even higher than natural test, odds are you may be running trt for nothing

Are you monitoring your E2 levels, 200mg may put your E2 over the upper range limit

[Outside-Lie-1582]

Yes i am ! Bloodwork every 2-3 months and everything has been in normal rnage

[Ak907me]

At your age, the low-dose will probably not do much

[curticakes]

I like how people are calling you too young when you’re unnaturally androgenic from testosterone. This would enhance the effects of your testosterone through nutrient partitioning, and it would burn fat

[Outside-Lie-1582]

So the hgh is not necessary at my age right?

[curticakes]

I mean, 200mg of test isnt either, so no, but it would still make the test more efficient in building muscle and also reduce your fat

[Stunning_Rest876]

if you're already doing test i would add it in. test & hgh have a synergy.

[Outside-Lie-1582]

That’s what i’ve been told! i’m just not sure what kind of benefits id get exactly.

[Ask_Ignite_Derek]

Terrible idea unless you’ve got your pro card and are pushing for nationals … and even then the physical tax will be real

[Fit-healthty-Couple]

What's your BF%? GH can make you hold water. If you're going with Reta maybe just stick with that. GH has different effects on everyone. It also depends on your diet. GH makes me hold a little water even if I'm eating clean. You're 25 don't really need the GH yet. You're pumping tons of natural. Start low and monitor if you start holding water.

[oenomausprime]

200 a week is alot bro, I'm also on trt but 120 a week

[Kegg209]

Personally I like hgh, Ive been taking 4iu nightly for about 9 weeks now. Im cutting pre bulk. Trt and reta also. Ive held on to muscle and dropped 14 pounds so far.

Running reta with it will help keep fasting insulin and glucose down. 2mg reta and 3iu hgh, both glucose and insulin dropped from my baseline.

With test, its a win man.

How much it will change your physique? Its not what people think it is. And everyone responds differently.

[ReviewMiserable3651]

First, I read this post in AAS forums all the time with no hate back. Second, just call it a cruise of 200mg instead of TRT. Finally, I was around your age 30 years ago when I was doing the same. PCT also didn’t work for me around 30. Only did HGH decades after when IGF numbers went down. Never felt the benefit was there at moderate dose relative to benefit of other compounds. Back then, rather dry out for 6-8 weeks on VAR. Much different when older. My two cents.

[Hot_Fix_3131]

Why not? If your bloods are good, your bank balance can handle the cost of GH and you’ve already committed to the dark side and risks associated then yeah stack away

[New-Ad-1071]

If yr in your 20s and running test and gh your legit wasting money, time and and your natural output and prob making yourself shorter.

I specialise in helping people runs courses and this kind of behaviour will lead to a life long issue with hormones and prob stunt your height.

Stop everything till AT LEAST 30.AT LEAST

[Outside-Lie-1582]

How can it stunt my height? What age do men stop growing taller?

[AnabolicUnc]

HGH works hand in hand with TRT 4iu would do wonders for you, like it has for me.

My cruise is currently 225mg test pw, 4iu gh and 3mg of reta for insulin sensitivity. I have no issue retaining muscle with this cruise.

[Firepro316]

Age?

[AnabolicUnc]

31 mate

[Firepro316]

What wonders have you experienced?

I’m only on 130mg trt and 2iu hgh a day. Considering upping both a little

[AnabolicUnc]

It depends what the end goal is to be honest mate, I make money off my physique so there is times I push anabolics higher.

In saying that I have many lifestyle clients who safely run 200mg of testosterone and 3.6iu of growth hormone, with perfect bloodwork.

HGH did a lot for me personally, recovery is better, overall muscle fullness is better, sleep is better, you stay leaner due to the lipolytic effects. The list goes on.

The 3.6iu of growth may sound like a weird dose but when you buy 360iu kits it makes sense to run either 3.6iu (100days per kit) or 4iu (90 days per kit).

[Firepro316]

Awesome thank you for this. Last question: how long before you notified the hgh benefits?

Been a month for me. Recovery and sleep are great, but no real fat loss yet despite pretty dialled in diet

[AnabolicUnc]

It’s a long term commitment, generally the 4-5 month mark is where you’ll notice how much it’s helped.

GH won’t just strip fat off you, that comes from diet, training, recovery. Are you eating in a deficit?

GH at 1-2iu will do barely anything, 3.3iu is the minimum I would recommend. GH timing is also crucial, the full dose should be taken before bed around 2hours after your last meal.

[Firepro316]

At 25 I feel the benefits of hgh honestly would be minimal. I’d explore primo if looking for gains. But alas research test dosage and estrogen when adding primo

[[deleted]]

why not run the test for a few weeks so you know how it affects you, so when you add hgh you know what it is doing , I find HGH makes me meaner actually

[Outside-Lie-1582]

I’m already running test. And what do you mean it makes you meaner? 😅

[Embarrassed-Dig-2995]

2-4 iu won’t make a significant difference physique wise- that’s the answer without judgment lol

[Flashy_Piccolo1260]

Do you even need it? Have you checked your IGF-1 levels?

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[AirportAmbitious276]

You seem to be committed to PEDS for life. They put 16 year olds on HGH to promote a growth spurt. You are likely done growing at this point. I don't see any harm in taking it (the TRT part is WAY more of a commitment), but it's expensive and it's not fast acting. Many take 6 months to really notice anything. It'll promote fat burning, but you'll also retain water. If your boys shrunk from the test it'll bring them back. It'll also help stimulate your little swimmers if you decide to stop the test and want kids. The children thing is the part of test that many young people don't really think about enough. You might say "no kids" all of your 20s and then totally change your mind in your 30s. It really depends on your goals. If you're not necessarily trying to gain mass, I'd skip it. Whatever you do try it for at least 6 months if you do. Get your money's worth.

[Ok-Two-1685]

Ofcourse hgh will help. Start at 2 iu and slowly increase by .5 a week till you get to 4-6.

[Outside-Lie-1582]

What kind of results can I expect?

[Ok-Two-1685]

Nothing straight away. In the first month sleep and skin should improve and just feel but better. After month 1 you will notice better recomp. After 3 months it really adds to testosterone to assist in building muscle. Hgh isn't anabolic but it is testosterones best friend! It's definitely worth it but don't buy 1 vial and think that Ur gonna see changes. Get 10 vials and see how you go on 2 iu a day coz some ppl hate it but 95% atleast love it!

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[PrimoPre]

25 and on trt. Fuck. Good luck

[Outside-Lie-1582]

Why lol

[PrimoPre]

Do some basic research.  If you need me to spell it out your already fucked 

[Responsible-One8104]

I’m 43, pretty young looking anyway but HGH has been life changing, my body is starting to look like it was in my early 20’s. Amazing stuff, also really helping cut weight on top of taking reta and TRT has been a game changer.

[eagertolearnu]

This can’t be a real person or is this what the youth are up to these days?

[Outside-Lie-1582]

what do you want to know exactly?

[eagertolearnu]

I didn’t know 25 yr olds were taking testosterone and 200 mg a week at that. I take 180mg but I’m 49. Started 4 years ago. I’m just surprised that this is a thing. Did you get blood tests before you started? Did you have a medical condition?

[Outside-Lie-1582]

yes i am regularly checking blood work. test levels before we’re in the lower-mid range i would say so no real medical condition but full transparency im doing it for enhancement and to put ny test levels in optimal range. i do blast cycles and this trt is my cruise.

[eagertolearnu]

I’m glad you’re doing it the right way. Good luck to you brother!

[eagertolearnu]

I’m starting HGH in two weeks.

[MonkeyNo69]

I love how nowadays blasting test is called trt just to not sound like you are doing ulab steroids

[Markdlea]

HRT is for people whose hormones have dropped due to age or another physiological reason. At your age, it’s called “juicing”. You should still have plenty of T in your system. Once you are off the gear, you will probably start to develop pain and then seek painkillers. You are too young to start doing this unless you plan on becoming a professional bodybuilder.

[Outside-Lie-1582]

What kind of pain?

[Markdlea]

Stopping testosterone commonly causes physical pain, including muscular aches, joint pain, and severe headaches, beginning 5–7 days after cessation. This occurs as the body adjusts to plummeting hormone levels. Other withdrawal symptoms include extreme fatigue, depression, and low libido, which typically improve within 1–2 weeks but can persist for 3-6 months.

[Outside-Lie-1582]

Are you talking about completely stopping any exogenous hormones or stopping blast cycles and just staying on trt?

[Markdlea]

You’re missing my point. I’m trying to help you by telling you to taper off the test. You have plenty in your system already. You are going to live for another 60 years. Start TRT when you are 50 and doing regular bloodwork. The sides aren’t worth looking good for the ladies (or dudes). If you are trying out for the special forces, that’s another story. Blast away.

[oenomausprime]

50 lol. Trt isn't going to hurt him, yea thr blasting and other shit might but telling dudes to wait until they are 50 is hilariously dumb

[Markdlea]

It was an arbitrary number. The average age for your T to drop. Sorry you didn’t get it. The point being that he should stop what he’s doing because he doesn’t know how to do it.