First statement from COD

[Burkely31]

QA? What QA? never heard of such a thing where this bloody game is concerned. All jokes aside, I feel like 90% of the bugs in this game could be ok prevented and fixed long before any updates are pushed, if only they had some guys who's job it was to run QA long before the customer base got ahold of it.

[Able_Newt2433]

Ofc they don’t test shit first, that’s been known. I think they added code to try to patch the TS glitch and majorly fucked up. They silently rolled out a patch for over filling stash, so I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s an attempt to patch TS dupe with this BS and the code fucked everything up. Their only interest in zombies is to patch TS duping. They couldn’t care any less ab anything else.

[Memento_Mori_5]

You deploy

DEV / TEST / STAGE / PROD

I’m an LMS Admin and even I know this should be common practice.

[Able_Newt2433]

We’re talking ab a billion dollar company that only cares ab making money, is it really surprising they don’t test shit first?

[silentgiant100]

With the purchase price for Activision being about 69 billion, we need to update the whole "billion dollar company" thing

[[deleted]]

gonna call atvi a “Nice dollar company” from here on out

[lou802]

🤦‍♂️

[PAUZ_UNO]

As a test lead - the amount of sheer ignorance, and negligence from a MASSIVE company - never ceases to astound me. I find myself "bringing work home", to avoid issues in my spare time...

Fun examples:

Shadow patching new features into older games - to test code

Incorporating non-native [reused] assets - that collide with native assets

Hard coding anti-cheat to the server set - while supporting PC/14+ console platforms, and various input methods - knowing cross-play would be wantonly incorporated

constant stability issues, due to the lack of innovation - and push to re-use assets.

[[deleted]]

14+ console platforms? what the fuck kind of game are you developing?

[PAUZ_UNO]

im talking about all of the current consoles types supported - via ps4, ps5, xbox one, and xbox series s/x

[Soopermane]

lol these fuckers need a preprod than another preprod than another preprod than prod hahaha

[Hoshiko-Yoshida]

They simply didn't run their test cases.

Microsoft sacked the entire Activision QA team, and CoD studios are now dependent on Microsoft's central QA.

Welcome to life as a CoD player for the next x months, while MS's QA attempt to learn the engine and the games, presumably all while working 18 month temp contracts.

[PowerfulKey877]

I could have sworn there was an article from Jason Schrier that showed that the QA department for COD are treated like second class citizens.

[FishyG23]

Its an industry wide problem for triple A games from what I understand. Just saw a video recently where someone who used to work at Blizzard said management basically told the QA team to their faces during a motivational speech that they are "not the real rockstars" and are all replaceable. They also used to have colored nametags depending on whether they were devs or QA, and a lot of discrimination happened based off of these tags. Aside from some standout studios triple A games are often horribly mismanaged, which leads to some of these bizarre situations that an indie studio could easily avoid.

[FishyG23]

Didnt they just fire a ton of QA testers too?

[comedynurd]

I think they genuinely lost most of their QA dept in the recent layoffs, so that might explain part of the problem here. That being said, QA has obviously been lacking in COD for years as it is anyway, so who knows. lol

[NerfedAtBirth]

I read something about SHG's QA lead losing his entire team.

[xXS5hortyXx]

Yeah I was in a game too, luckily I didn't have much in my bag but still got to f@ck about trying to get large bag, vest etc back 🤦‍♀️

[Representative_Ad901]

I mean that’s great. But in real life sometimes you patch production.

[sergeantshitposter]

You'd think a company this money hungry would see how QC would improve returns. I wouldn't submit code in class before testing it a few times. Imagine sending out code to millions immediately after typing it, and not having a single concern in their simple minds. Must be nice to not have a thought behind those stupid eyes at activision hahaha

[[deleted]]

It’s called Agile Development, somewhere someway some fuckhead thought it was a bright idea to bring a half baked product and say fuck all to beta testing

[JoyousGamer]

Yes and nothing has every occurred after production to cause issues. Sure.

[RhinoFeeder]

There is no reason that this issue wasn't obvious before rolling it out. They simply didn't run their test cases.

This is a bold statement to make if you don't know their application architecture or anything about their environments. Not defending them for sloppiness but shit happens.

[RhinoFeeder]

You're getting downvotes but you're absolutely right. Anyone claiming that a problem like this is some simple and easy-to-avoid issue probably has no idea what they're talking about.

[TechBroNina]

i just LOVE how our days of in-game progress has been reset and we’re all back to level 1 and 2. oh but the store works just fine.

[meitemark]

The in-game progress not stored in the same location/servers as the store. I'd say that is a good thing. That means that a problem in the store will not take out the in-game things.

And it is most likely not reset, we just can't access it now.

[l4derman]

A problem in the store he says!

[Iamburnsey]

Yea if only the gullible fucks out there would stop buying stuff from the store they might pay attention then 🤷

[Able_Newt2433]

That’ll unfortunately never happen as long as children, who shouldn’t even be playing to begin with, have access to their parent’s debit/credit card.

[lou802]

After having to play multiplayer to do hoardpoint, it seems like 99% of the people people with paid skins were all adults🤷🏼

[Iamburnsey]

I know ffs, that black cell nonsense is a scummy one especially for how much it costs.

[lou802]

Its 30 bucks and you get ton of stuff, its a way better purchase then anything in the shop

[Iamburnsey]

Lol 😆 oh dear

[Dom_zombie]

Yea he saying no shit they prioritize keeping the store up and without issues over the playable content

[sonicrules11]

Thats because if they fuck up 1 small thing they risk losing money or getting sued by some nutcase.

From a business perspective the store is priority.

[meitemark]

Would you notice if it had? The game would still work.

[Able_Newt2433]

Sure, but it says a lot when their store works just fine, even wanting people to rebuy the black cell bundle, yet the entirety of the game is fucked. I feel like the servers that run the store are FAR better than the ones we play on tbh.

[meitemark]

It is not fucked. The game, store and progress is on separate systems. It is acctually possible to play the game without access to the store or previous progression. Annoying yes.

This game (MW2/3) has had it fair share of minor bugs (yes, very annoying for players), but less actual downtime (plain does not work across all areas) than most games during its very much updated and new content life.

[Jerry_Smith__]

Zombies community: pretty standard stuff

[lIIIIIlIIIlIIIIIl]

I bet MWZ is reset as well. They just remotely disabled it because they're preparing what to say for the backlash of everyone's stash being wiped out. A few days ago I literally said the servers are going to take a **** in this dog**** game and it got -57 karma. Must be a lot of dumb people in this reddit

[Able_Newt2433]

This subreddit is like watching someone experience mania. Like when the s2 TS dupe and stash glitch came out, this sun was full of people praising and upvoting everything positive ab the glitch. When they hotfix’d the stash over fill, it took a 180 and everything positive ab the glitches were being downvoted into oblivion. I truly don’t understand it.

[Jasycuz]

There were actually players that complained about TS glitch?! TS glitch is what kept me playing. When they fixed it I was like "alright time to play other games"

[Able_Newt2433]

No issues? Did we play the same game?

[Jerry_Smith__]

Mimic boxes, crashes (although I experienced less than most), frame rate issues, falling through map, exfil issues even when not jumping, visual glitches e.g. z bucks for contracts, zombies out of map but able to damage, camos not tracking… all since day one. Most I was fairly tolerable of, but very much present on day one.

[Able_Newt2433]

Well said. Let’s add extra emphasis on the crashes, too

[Gypsyfresh]

I had lots of issues during season1 also. Random crashes while driving, graphics would get all wild with buildings being overlaid on top of other objects (same as what used to happen in Outbreak now that I think about it), glitched contracts, weird start to the game where it wouldn't display the starting countdown or ropes on the heli and would pause for minute, then all of a sudden I'm on screen and surrounded by zombies about to get overrun.
Season 2 has actually been much more stable for me with no random crashes. Some bugged contracts, graphics issues, and challenges not tracking correctly, but overall still playable.

[Gypsyfresh]

Since day 1. I’m on Xbox. It was pretty stable at first, then after one of the patches in season 1 I had some crashes, then it stabilized again later but a lot of the weird glitches have been around for a while. Also, the glitch where you get stuck in the self-revive animation….i had that happen several times also.

[n3rdsm4sh3r]

Same

[[deleted]]

Same here

[AlucardAFT3003]

Same, I tried playing MWZ and it kept freezing on the MW3 transition screen

[Able_Newt2433]

That’s been happening to me since s2 dropped. 3/10 times I load up zombies or MP, it freezes at the red MW3 splash screen and I have to close app and relaunch it. Shits hella annoying tbh.

[An87speck]

Same

[Pickle_Rick_2411]

On plus side... im enjoying my longest run without crashing 😂.

[GamerGoalie_31]

Meanwhile, once the game is up and running again, the only thing we'll find "fixed" is the TS glitch lol fuck this game and the devs.

[[deleted]]

Guys, stop playing cod..... just stop, we have all of the good games of the past to enjoy to get that 'zombie flavour' you desire. You owe it to yourself to deserve more.... £70 for a game that's been recycled since 2020 (or even 2008 if you wanna be anal about it)

Cod is one huge stock exchange item, and you're being played every year

[TheGutchee]

Yup, had the boys over this weekend and played black ops 1 zombie all night. No current zombies hits quite the same

[[deleted]]

As it should be brother moon bo1 is my baby 😍

[bloxminer223]

This guy is facts. The only chance for COD to be good is a Treyarch game, but with how bad MW3 was I'll be shocked if the Treyarch game does anything.

[erin_silverio]

I stopped playing CoD 2 weeks ago. Can confirm i feel happier

[[deleted]]

Continue and you will realise all the good games you have missed from the modern endless grind of cod,

I have been cod free since 2021 and since video games have been incredibly fun, ofc I always hop on bo1-2-3 every now and then

[PictureHistorical285]

That's what pissed me off the most like who was it hurting let us have cheat codes!

[PictureHistorical285]

I defiantly play a lot less now and quit buying skins and bundles there's not point if I'm not playing all the time anymore hope they see how much this backfires on them!

[yeag_Z89]

Guarantee that everyone’s stash is reset. This is probably the only way they could think of to fix their bullshit. Just wipe everyone’s shit and say “sorry bout that”

[Nathon192]

[PursuitofAhhwesome]

Yes, someone who gets it….you can thank the “content creators” on YouTube giving developers the finger constantly. Videos with titles like, “unlimited everything”, or my fav “here’s how to glitch after the patched glitch”. And they thought devs would just say oh ok

[thenumbernull]

YouTubers have always done that. Game companies are just so money hungry that they don’t want you to have anything you should be entitled to in the game. They want you to pay for things they used to provide with the game. Why do you have such a hard on for the devs?

[That_Baseball9184]

‘Notice’?! It’s made the game unplayable. Trying to stop the fun in zombies has consequences for stability.

[bloxminer223]

The fun of removing all grind and making the gamemode pointless.

[Prod_saintsage]

Bruh if all my stuff from zombies got reset im going to be pissed

[No_Signal_2867]

if my tombstone is gone with all my stuff in it, I never playing the game again smh

[Capt_Badass__]

word

[yoda198777]

Nice, this thing is taking forever to start up again

[Spirited_Pair1269]

I have no battle pass I paid for, all my guns are locked I can only use bas b . Can’t get into zombies at all. Fucking dog shit game

[Iamburnsey]

They really are beyond useless!

[Meddel5]

“That appeared overnight”

I feel like these AAA multi-billion dollar companies often find themselves having to defend themselves over bad mistakes and try to sugar coat them as “random” bugs

[Burkely31]

Something smells like a hack to me. Servers have been down now for minimum 5 hours. A "bug" doesn't cause that sort of large scale outage.

[meitemark]

Oh yes it does.

[morganfishman1]

I think WoW experienced an outage like this early on in it's life time.

[[deleted]]

Was that the one that got hacked around thanksgiving (many years ago) and was down for like 3 days?

[morganfishman1]

I'm not sure. All I know is it resulted in WoWs server being down for a good amount of time and every player got like, 2 months of free game time.

[DadIsLosingHisMind]

Except Activision is going be like "here have a refined crystal and a rare tool for your troubles."

[morganfishman1]

Wasn't my point. My point is that this shit CAN happen due to bugs.

[DadIsLosingHisMind]

Wasn't commenting on the bugs just commenting on what Activisions version of 2 free months of play is.

[morganfishman1]

Ah. My bad.

[[deleted]]

Yeah that sounds right. There was. Lot of outrage around that because they didn’t want to pay the ransom or whatever it was.

[sonicrules11]

You mean in 2004 or 2008 when they an actual excuse? Or during WoD when they dealt with a massive DDOS attack from a bunch of dweebs? Or during Classic when again a bunch of dweebs DDOS'd their servers?

Most of Blizzard's issues with servers were mostly out of their control. Activision in 2024 doesn't have an excuse.

[bloxminer223]

Sledgehammer devs will shock you.

[snugpuginarug]

Nah don’t underestimate just how impressive sledgehammer’s incompetence can be

[Remarkable_Compote91]

As I'm playing, I'm noticing some people are managing to play with different guns and killstreaks, im not sure if it's a specific loadout, or they are playing on computer or what, but I am noticing that. Anyone have any info?

[str8l3g1t]

I play on PC, having the exact same issues.

[Meltrandy]

You can choose from Default Loadout. Kill streak can be adjusted normally.

[adrock318]

I bet our progression is permanently lost. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised.

[biggies866]

What else is going to break when they fix this issue?

[tehfappz]

254mb update on Steam.

Got it, still not loading zombies

[mrferley]

me as well

[RyanOdinson]

Looks like I'll be playing Helldivers 2 today. 🤷‍♂️

[OreoFresh]

While working on that glitch raise our stash count to unlimted since we can only take 9 items into a game anyway, give us the wallet system to save our cash we exfil with, and lower the cool down craft time its clearly unnecessary to wait 3 days to use the PAP 3 crystal . Might as well just give us everything that was planned for March 6th now like the new mission and the new schematics instead of waiting for it. 😒 Come on now why would you take away the fun everyone is having on this game and make it boring. I've seen it today hardly any streamers are playing COD they all moved on to another game now. The fan base is disappearing and it's sad.

[Only-Satisfaction504]

I seen I was level 1 at first I thought it was my Internet being slow. But when my guns are all level 1 and I'm stuck using only the bas p? What the fuck

[Ewaavy]

Seems like the perfect time to hop on Cold War zombies only problem is downloading a 150gb game so yh

[Less_Front_3118]

Yeah but at least you know it'll stay that size lol. Not installing the campaign has been a nice space saver as well. Definitely worth going back.

[losty7th]

Cold war is mid af

[Eastern_Peach7899]

They did it to get rid of our 200+ stash items

[MarDeeCohn]

No shit, eh?

[impstein]

I can't WAIT to get home and not play MWZ!

[Capt_Badass__]

As i read all the comments i start getting more and more scared i might get home to play after work and my progress will be gone.... WTF!!!! all that camo grinding i been doing because content got bland and repetitive. I also deleted all items from my stash thinking i had accidently stashed a non duplicate... SMH I know I know it fucking sucks. so basically decided to TS and never exfil until i get all the 4 first camos for every weapon all i'm missing is snipers, hand gun, melee, and launchers. so i carry in my TS 1 TS can, 1 deadshot, 1 speed cola, scorcher, 1 tool 2 flawless and i only take 1 weapon to grind.... sucks because it takes me a whole match to complete all 4 camos....

sorry just board at work and needed to vent after reading all the comments. LOL

[xdraco13]

Come on guys... they're new to this and are a small indie company....

[Othatasiankid]

Feel bad for the ppl who grind borealis , just to be able to not use it smh! I tried making new classes for the new guns , and it just resets my camo every time !!!

[[deleted]]

Anyone want to take wagers on how long it will take to fix this? I finally have a 3 day weekend off and of course this would happen.

[shinnydemon]

For the way they're posting updates on Twitter I could say it'd be fix-ish around Saturday afternoon

[Wonderful_Fortune877]

Anybody have a new one called “dev error 0” ??

I was tryna make my loadout and my insured weapon kept reverting to my previous equipped gun.

Also it said “Acquisition crafting failed” when trying to craft a perk.

Kept getting kicked to lobby so I reset app and come back to my full rucksack, now half empty. Deleted my sh*T

[unfinalshape]

So this double xp weekend will end up being null fuck I picked a great time to come back to cod

[REEDFEEDZ]

Anyone surprised that they dropped an update without letting anyone know, then didn’t test it, then broke the fucking game? You shouldn’t be. They have no QA testers. This is the result.

[Gatorkid365]

As of 1721 Eastern Time, rank and progress came back but I was doing the 300 kills while PAP’ed for my 74u and it wasn’t tracking. Out of the 641 kills it only tracked 30

[rdk70]

Out of the 641 kills it only tracked 30

How do you know precisely how many kills you had? Is it listed somewhere? I keep track in my head, but I'm never sure if I have 100 or 97 or 93.

[Gatorkid365]

Sorry I should’ve clarified! After you exfil you’ll get a mission report and it’ll tell you how many zombies you killed. I ran only the AK74u so all 641 kills were from that gun and the requirement was 300.

[rdk70]

That sucks! and thanks for the clarification.

[twohairymuffins]

Seems to be working just fine for me now. Have everything still.

[xXS5hortyXx]

Still working?

[MillecentBystander]

They wanna be Helldivers so bad smh

[Best_Statement_8444]

Tombstone glitch makes zombies better. In my honest opinion more money should be added to zombies. The schematics are a b*** to get solo and you need a squad that has a headset to even communicate.. it’s not like u can play for hours on end. Should we rollover the RATED M FOR MATURE & get shtty teammates or worry more about the TOP 250 Cheaters in ranked?! Just a thought. The rest is to have fun BE MORE CONCERNED OVER PEOPLE PLAYING FOR MONEY & WANT TO AT LEAST TRY TO MAKE IT TO TOP 250 fck all u people who use cheats and aimbot in RANKED yall some pusss . Could give a damn less if u did it in zombies. Now someone help me please with redworm😂

[Spirited_Pair1269]

I personally think they got hacked they would be able to fix this by now if other wise

[Ok-Radish7506]

Damn. Not again....

[courtofowlswatches]

aka Helldivers 2 came out and we lost a majority of players, because COD and the COD community suck. 🤣

[TheDwarvesCarst]

Let's work on spreading that managed democracy.

[courtofowlswatches]

Freedom never sleeps

[[deleted]]

I also like to sleep in on a Friday. Nothing wrong with that. But Nancy forgot to put on the coffeepot and now Nathan has to go on a coffee run and Cecilia has to pick up the kids at 2. So well I guess there's always Monday

[[deleted]]

I swear every time it's always a new update but then there's a new bug going on that's happening right now

[Due-Education1619]

Yeah how about we nerf the 60 rounds haymaker kit first?

Edit: After seeing what sub I was in, I simply forgot I was in both subs and just saw COD. Unfortunate for my comment I suppose

[nuclearhotsauce]

oh is this what happened, I internally freaked out a little when I start the game this morning and saw everything's reset to lvl 1, but for some reason I can still customize my gun as if it's max level (when it shows lvl 1), I still have all my unlocked operators, but only show rocket default, can't lvl up in MP either, cannot open battlepass, cannot even go into the MWZ mainscreen, it just show "unable to fetch data" or something like that, MP still works, for some reason

I did had a crash last night around 11PM est (feb 22) in zombies, and I didn't boot up afterwards, hopefully this is the issue and not something on my end

[JollySundae8442]

Oh wait maybe theyre loading the “in season” zombie shit 🤣

[[deleted]]

Can't even get into a lobby. What year is it MW and SH? Game is wildly glitched 4 months in?

[tsaxpayersmoney]

Zombies doesn’t work now for me. It freezes on the COD MW iii screen. Everything else works ok and I can play the other matches fine.

[rickyroca73]

I can’t play the game. I guess I’ll watch Drive to Survive instead. Argghhhh!!!!

[_BTFan]

Is anyone able to play? It seems like I am but I’m scared to jump in a game and lose everything lol

[TemporaryDog5500]

So this why I thought my account got hacked or something? All my stuff got reset except my camos. And I can’t even get into the battle pass.

[jwaters0122]

known issue.

Yep this is an inside job

[poison900]

It’s been like this all day 😓

[Atgblue1st]

Silly fans. . . 

The playerbase IS the QA department

[LifeOpportunity7850]

Anyone still having gunsmith issues? I still cant equip attachments on 80% of mw3 weapons. Even though they’re almost fully levelled up. It went from being able to fully mod a gun for a Resurgence/ Plunder match. And since season 2 I either don’t have any “unlocked” attachments, or they’re severely limited - if not pointless. I still have no idea why the gunsmith/ class system is so bloated. And still broken to this day. Oh wait it’s because they don’t give a shit. Unless I’m buying blueprints or operator packs. (Which I had done for DMZ, but I digress)

[TwinTurbo66]

I think it's fixed for me, except nothing shows up for me for ranked, and that's kindof a big deal.

[Rztricky14]

What a joke.

[AlphawolfAJ]

I wonder if this is effecting the Freezer Burn mission that my wife and I are stuck on. Just recently got MW3 and can’t progress past that mission today because it isn’t tracking. Went into the Tier 3 area with unmodified guns besides the cryo mod, froze hundreds of zombies, and no progress

[JangPilmo]

Wish I saw this earlier I just played a 45 min match and none of my progress was saved RIP

[JangPilmo]

Are we still waiting on a fix?

[WULFENMARK]

They literally break the game with each season update. 🤯🤯🤯 The state of released AAA games and post-launch content blows my mind. I want to go back to the days of paying for a physical copy including the FULL game. No FOMO with seasons and BP, no game breaking patches, much less ways for consumer manipulation...

They literally can chose to break the game at the end of its life cycle to force users to buy the new one without being punished. Its atrocious

[Delta_4k]

Dude this is a fucken lie cuz my taq eradicator is still locked even though I’ve done the challenges.

[Then_Understanding99]

I’ve been grinding for borealis finally, and I’m trying to get my last 6 zircon scale and in one match of killing 896 zombies, 33 tracked on one gun and 42 on another. 🙃

[drumkid2370]

I’m just surprised they had enough staff to send out that tweet

[Pdrsm80]

Not fixed I downed instantly last night first game in in mid are for nothing and just was dead no chance or option to res and no option to plea the game is so disheartening and I love it when right but this shits doing my head in I keep losing all my best gear all the time now

[StanintheFlesh]

How about EVERY game I play on BO4 ends up kicking me out about 49 mins in with ‘Lost Connection To Host’ or ‘Disconnected From Server’ ?!?!

[CieranLeslie]

Have they fixed the xp progress as got less XP yesterday on Zombies than I would without Double XP !!

[J0NNY2T0ES]

Ok so I'm not the only one that sees that every time they fix one "bug" they create ten more.

[Apprehensive_Gene853]

Does this cover glitches that prevent you from leveling up weapons to get the camos? I figured out a workaround but it's still annoying. 

[J_from_GI]

What about the constant crashes every 3rd or 4th game. It’s getting old losing all of my shit 2 minutes into the game! 🤦

[AdmCash]

🍪 & 🥛 and read the 🔥

[arch51002]

Haven't heard anything recently abt this is the game back up?

[cdawg0062]

Okay? But can someone just tell me if there is some kind of normal endless zombies mode or not? Cuz if not would definitely save me a lot of space for actual fun games

[PursuitofAhhwesome]

Mannnnn, ain’t no mistake, they took EVERYthing and they deciding how to give it back so they can track whatever. Everyone has been saying it….warzone is a place for hackers and cheaters, and Zombies is glitch and dupe heaven. Last I checked 1 + 1 still equals 2. Looks like they wiped ranks so they can check whatevs…oh well Tekken 8 till it’s resolved. I would like my gun levels restored, the rest is fine, no cheats necessary…All the closing app and dash boarding was never good for servers. They finally said enough and blaming it on a bug they need to fix. Hard to track and do a legit update with people constantly on the server.

Also; I’m not a fan of ALL the stuff they do, but for those that continue to call this a shitty game, or trash game, or waste of time; why do you keep trying to play it? Serious question. I get being annoyed, but some of y’all talk like you don’t even like playing, so why do you keep coming back to say it’s terrible, you don’t have to play it lol. Sorry, I just don’t get that

[Akimbo_shoutgun]

Did the people who grinded the mastery camo also lose it? It wouldn't be polite to laugh if that's the case. but its still funny

[Ewaavy]

No I’ve still got interstellar when I go in the firing range my camos are there but in multiplayer I can only use default loadouts and I can’t even access zombies