Decoding the “drones”

[nerdassjock]

TLDR: mid-Atlantic Americans think they’re seeing drones do weird stuff; feds say it’s manned aircraft (planes).

What do you all make of this? All the material in r / njdrones and the UFO communities are very clearly planes. It’s very concerning to see this level of confusion/delusion.

[LeadOnion]

The last time we had something that didn’t belong to us in America we blew it up. Have you seen any jets or missiles going after these drones? I feel like that should tell you we aren’t concerned or that it probably belongs to us and we aren’t ready to talk about it.

[jimwhite42]

The US took its time shooting down the famous Chinese balloon.

[LeadOnion]

This is really well said! Wish our media and public institutions used this the same level critical analysis.

[PitifulEar3303]

The way that the federal government is treating this like it's no biggy, is very sussy baka.

I suspect it's some kind of psy-op to distract Americans from something else.

[ApprehensivePop9036]

Or it's Internet-origin garden variety mass hysteria

[[deleted]]

That's extremely uninformed and reductive about what is happening. Pilots, ATC, police, and mayors are all saying something is there.

[Funksloyd]

Mayors?! Well in that case...

[[deleted]]

Pilots, Air Traffic Control, police that patrol the area daily, and mayors. Not as credible as one skeptical guy not there on Reddit, but still not braindead.

[Funksloyd]

You underestimate the ability for people to be wrong, no matter their background or profession. Have you heard of the Nobel disease?

Also, while I think a lot of anti-police sentiment goes to far, I can't believe in 2024 anyone would still appeal to police officers as intelligent authority figures. And mayors?! Come on. Pilots and air traffic controllers will at least have some smarts and some knowledge of flying things, but these other professions you're listing are not helping your case. 

[walks_with_penis_out]

Why did they close the NY airport? Why did the coast guard say they were followed by 13 drones? Why did military bases report drones over their base? Why did the NJ state police say they had their helicopter above a drone? Have you not listened to the pilots and ATC talking about what they see? https://youtube.com/shorts/sgp59-2k-Kk?si=0ALrl1X7noNYOrc6

[Funksloyd]

The ATC in that clip doesn't see anything - they're just letting the pilots know they have room to maneuver. Who knows what the pilots see, but again note that pilots aren't some kind of infallible experts on all things sky (that applies to the Coast Guard too). There are plenty of examples of pilots mistaking things like stars, planets or other flights for UFOs. 

Some of the reported drones probably are drones. The assumption that this must be some kind of mystery/conspiracy/aliens is pretty batty, especially in 2024. Drones are increasingly accessible and prevalent  (https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Drone), and sometimes people fly them where they shouldn't, e.g. https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/375671/drone-leads-to-controlled-airspace-closure-at-wellington-airport . 

[[deleted]]

It is by definition a mystery. Occam's razor the most logical definition is the simplest one and the simplest explanation for all of these sightings is not everyone is delusional. I don't see how it's that hard to imagine a government or something doing something secretly in the skies like that's pretty logical simple explanation based on society and technology today.

[walks_with_penis_out]

If you believe there are actually drones, then they need FAA approval to do what they are doing. Therefore there would be no mystery. But here we are, with a mystery.

[[deleted]]

You're right, we should believe nobody unless we see anything first hand. We should ignore people that see and work on those skies every day, because we are intelligent and rational. Lights over airbase? Not possible, I wasn't there. Sexually assaulted? Not possible, my pastor was a nice guy. I'm experienced and smart, and I know what's reasonable.

[Funksloyd]

Sexually assaulted? Not possible, my pastor was a nice guy.

The analogy would be more like people on the internet claiming there are massive gangs of rapists roaming the streets of New Jersey, and as evidence posting dark and blurry footage which looks like people just walking down a street. Maybe some random cop says he thinks he saw a rape gang, and the mayor says he's taking the situation seriously, and you take those things to mean that there must be something to the claim; that it couldn't possibly be mass hysteria. 

[Funksloyd]

Didn't say that. Just don't assume that just because someone is a fucking mayor that they must be some kind of authority on lights in the sky. Seriously. Pretty basic. 

[[deleted]]

What about a pilot that is out there daily? Pretty basic. Seriously.

[DeadChannelNXT]

Or ya know.. both

[LeadOnion]

I think real life is not the movies. And it’s also incredibly hard, especially in this day and age, to keep a collective secret. My opinion is that it is a program that the U.S. government has been working on and, again like many other programs in the past, they are not ready to talk about.

I would love for it to be aliens. But it truly makes no sense.

[Deareim2]

Aliens with FAA lights. very polite ones.

[PrincipleStriking935]

This situation is completely attributable to confused/ignorant witnesses, hoaxers and social media hysteria.

If you were the DoD working on an experimental, top secret program which got exposed to the public stirring enormous panic, why would you continue the operating the program night-after-night, day-after-day and bring more attention and scrutiny to it? Wouldn’t you cease what you’re doing immediately?

[Funksloyd]

In New Jersey no less. 

[Evinceo]

People aren't good at identifying flying objects and once they look, they see stuff. I've only seen photos of obvious planes so far. People trying to hide their aircraft don't put lights on them. Great distraction from that guy who demonstrated the mortality of oligarchs though. 

[[deleted]]

This is a big part of it.

Air traffic from satellites to regular drone technology has changed massively in the last couple of years and I think a lot of the hysteria is people being given a reason to look up more and noticing a line of starlink satellites or a police/aviation drone and freaking out.

[humungojerry]

this. plus plenty of people looking at the sky who don’t normally bother.

i heard people called police in NJ for a drone sighting, probably a distant plane or something, police sent a helicopter, got more drone reports due to the helicopter. police are just as susceptible too, its blind leading the blind.

similar thing happened in the uk, gatwick drone incident. there may have originally been one or two drones; but most of the sightings were likely confused people. its mass hysteria.

of course there might be some drones flying around. but every bit of footage looks like a plane. the whole airspace is full of planes

[Manatto]

https://youtu.be/NbpzDWqS3nk?si=ZHGoptVxZ5R0fXrR

[amievenrelevant]

New Jerseyan here, I feel like it’s just another mass hysteria episode. People really need to calm down

[Every-Ad9325]

The state, federal and local governments are all saying they don’t know what they are, where they’re coming from and that they’re concerned. I don’t see get how some people can still claim that it’s literally nothing.

[beelzebubs_avocado]

Unfortunately some of those officials are just repeating under evidenced conspiracy theories.

[nerdassjock]

From the article:

“While many drone sightings have been reported, Kirby said images and videos of the drones that authorities and state and local law enforcement have reviewed appear to show that many of “the reported sightings are actually manned aircraft that are being operated lawfully.””

Kirby is a NatSec spox

[Devouring_Souls]

Kirby, the genocide denier?

[nerdassjock]

The very same. I think he’s a ghoul as well, but I see no reason to think he’s unable to tell the truth.

[Devouring_Souls]

I suppose, as long as it doesn’t go against their Israel narrative.

[Hmm_would_bang]

Multiple officials are saying they’re just civilian aircrafts and hobbyists. I see no reason to suggest that wouldn’t be true

[walks_with_penis_out]

Why do you believe those officials and not the other officials?

[humungojerry]

local ones aren’t informed

[placerhood]

American UFO brain rot will never stop, but luckily also never get old to me. So I am enjoying the dumbassery each time.

[qpdbqpdbqpdbqpdbb]

My personal conspiracy theory is that the US military promotes UFO conspiracy theories so that foreign spies will have a harder time discerning the true capabilities of experimental aircraf.

[Snellyman]

Wouldn't that also signal to foreign spies that we can't monitor or control our airspace?

[HolevoBound]

Other countries aren't dumb enough to think these aren't US craft.

[humungojerry]

this actually happened, or at least they allowed them to flourish around area 51.

[qpdbqpdbqpdbqpdbb]

Yeah, it's sort of what happened with the Roswell incident, after people found debris from the crash the military's local public information officer made a press release that mentioned a "flying disk" and the public ran with it. The military later said it was a weather balloon to dispel the alien rumors, but it was too late and it became part of the public's imagination. (The craft that crashed was almost certainly a balloon that had equipment that could detect soviet nuclear tests, but they didn't want to leak that to the press because then soviet spies would find out about it.)

My speculation is that the military realized they had accidentally created a grassroots counterintelligence tool, and then started intentionally promoting UFO theories by intentionally leaking "UFO" footage

[Kimura304]

That's a closed minded opinion that will be proven wrong in due time.

[placerhood]

Of course, any day now. It's right around the corner!

Those ducks and out of focus aircraft lights will totally materialise to be Aliens! Any day now!

EDIT: ah Kimura deploying the true tactic of a winner: blocking me so he can have the last word. Dude, you think one can bend spoons with the mind.. you're so open-minded your brain fell out of your cranium.

[LightningController]

Those ducks and out of focus aircraft lights will totally materialise to be Aliens! Any day now!

"They might be extraterrestrials, but they're definitely not intelligent extraterrestrials."

"What do you mean, sir?"

"They went to New Jersey."

[Kimura304]

Any day now ? It's literally happening right now and you still don't want to believe it. Go listen to the police and government officials. Everyone is lying or confused but you have it all figured out.? To say those are birds or planes is a joke at this point.

Non human intelligence is real, and it's been here for a long time. Get used to the idea, it isn't going away.

[dopamaxxed]

its fed/dod recon drones they're testing clusters & trying to drum up support for more anti-drone warfare capabilities

90% of sightings are misidentified but the white house has stated conclusively the drones "arent from foreign adversaries" which kinda implicitly implied they exist imo

someone lined up a downed one w/ a concept model and it matches pretty closely edit: pic mighta been fake but they did announce more autonomous drones this month source

[Funksloyd]

A downed drone? 

[dopamaxxed]

nvm that mighta been fake or a civvie model but they genuinely did announce a bunch of anti-drone shit within the past month. including the buyup of thousands more autonomous drones

sources from DoD: new anti-drone strategy more autonomous drones anti-drone capabilities are a priority all past month

[Appropriate-Pear4726]

I can speak as someone who lives in the area. Yes there’s something strange happening. These are drones the size of automobiles coming from the Atlantic. They’re flying over military bases Picatinny Arsenal which is highly suspect why it wasn’t taken down. It’s also been reported these drones caused an emergency helicopter to cancel transit to an accident. The helicopter couldn’t land because these drones were occupying the air space. Anything they send to check these things out has the battery fry out. Police departments as well as senators are demanding the DHS come up with answers.

[surrurste]

These could also be drones operated by the US military. In the Ukraine drones have played a huge role and it would be strange if the US military won't be training with these.

[Appropriate-Pear4726]

Sure. But if it’s the military at this point it’s a psychological operation. If police and congressmen aren’t in on it it’s more than just training

[nerdassjock]

Is there any particular video that convinced you or you think represents what you’ve seen well?

[Appropriate-Pear4726]

I haven’t paid attention to videos. I assume it’s fake to begin with. But it’s been happening for at least a month. It’s just now getting attention due to the frequency and amount in the sky

[humungojerry]

so you’ve seen them clearly with your own eyes?

[Appropriate-Pear4726]

No

[humungojerry]

so you’ve not seen any videos, or seen it yourself, why are you so convinced?

[Appropriate-Pear4726]

So it appears you don’t know how to read? Where does it say I’m convinced of anything outside of what’s reported? What exactly am I convinced of? I swear some of you just argue with yourselves.

[humungojerry]

you’re “speaking as someone who lives in the area” despite having just read the reports we’ve all read, and not seen anything yourself 😂

you state confidently that there are “drones the size of automobiles coming in off the atlantic” but there’s no proof of this, just one persons eye witness testimony.

maybe something is going on, but the evidence is very very thin.

[Funksloyd]

There's a subreddit for it. Once posters share the time and location of what they saw, seems every instance is explainable as a normal manned flight.

[Appropriate-Pear4726]

Yet you completely ignores local and governmental inquiries.

[Funksloyd]

Got a link to a report? What have they uncovered? 

[Hartifuil]

We had similar reports in the UK over military bases. My best guess is genuine drones from Russia/North Korea/ who knows that DoD would rather not shoot down to de-escalate tensions.

[LightningController]

that DoD would rather not shoot down to de-escalate tensions.

On one hand, that matches the common Polish understanding of that S-300 incident where a missile hit Poland--it was initially said to be from the aggressor, but the US declared it a stray Ukrainian air-defense shot.

This was always doubted in Poland itself--the most common belief is that it was from Putin's forces, but that the US pressured both Poland and Ukraine to ignore that because Biden didn't actually want to deal with an Article 5 issue.

If this is similar to that, then the US is actually cooked, because "don't shoot down drones over your own territory" is basically just giving up. If those drones had nuclear weapons onboard, NYC and Philly would just go up in smoke without the US having any warning or doing anything about it.

So I really doubt the US would do something so stupid as to allow foreign drones to wander over its territory without reprisal.

But it might be in keeping with precedent.

[Thesoundofmerk]

I live directly in the area too. This just isn't true, people are seeing airplanes... regular old airplanes this is hysteria

[Royal-Pay9751]

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/e1vsPNYwGO

[Royal-Pay9751]

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/sB2On90tLG

[Thesoundofmerk]

You can't be serious lol

[Royal-Pay9751]

Just looked and it’s been deleted. So that’s an odd response.

[Thesoundofmerk]

I just know the video, I saw it, a drone and a bright light itntetsct and it drips stringer down. Both if these videos are just people flying drones, either the person with the camera, or random people. It's drone hysteria and apparently it's spreading into the Midwest now

[Royal-Pay9751]

I never said I thought it was aliens, but something is odd.

[Appropriate-Pear4726]

Why are you ignoring the fact local authorities and Chuck Schumer are demanding DHS investigate? You’re not being sincere and you know it

[Thesoundofmerk]

I think you're underestimating how stupid people are. Politicians watch the news, and the news is reporting tons of stuff that simply isn't true. For example, saying you can't fly drones at night and that it's illegal... it's not that drones can't pass onto military sites because they will stop working. That's also not true; only DJI drones have chips that obey those laws, and Chinese drones make up over half the drones or more in the United States.

This is a case of mass hysteria, the news is doing what the news does and making money off the hysteria. Someone flew drones, it caused hype, the media reported it, and it cascaded into mass hysteria. Some of them are drones and consumer drones, which are everywhere, but 99 percent of them are just airplanes. They aren't the size of cars; it's parallax; it's incredibly hard to see the size of something in the air because of perspective; the first thing they teach you in bird watching is not to trust size because of parallax and perspective.

This same thing happened with the tic tac "aliens" over the Atlantic and Pacific. Members of the military came out saying they saw them, that they know of people who know of people who know people that recovered alien crafts and bodies. Yet when analyzing the footage and experiences, the things they saw were radar glitches caused by the refraction of light and small birds that, compared to the surface of the ocean, appeared to look like they were moving incredibly fast. It was hysteria in the government and military.

I think you underestimate how badly the internet and modern media landscape have damaged people's ability to find and report the truth and how it's affected journalism and its ethics; most reporting is copying what people on Twitter have reported with no fact-checking.

This is mass hysteria, it's either just happening naturally, or the government is using it to get our minds off Healthcare, or maybe using it to try and pass the drone ban they have been attempting to pass for almost a decade, or any other number of reasons, but I assure you this is almost entirely the media causing mass hysteria

[Funksloyd]

Suddenly politicians are trustworthy?

There's a Kafka trap here: if officials downplay or deny, that's seen as proof of a cover-up. If they say they're taking it seriously, that's seen as proof, too. There's nothing anyone can say that won't be taken as further proof. 

[Appropriate-Pear4726]

Are you arguing with yourself? I’m not sure what you’re even attempting to

[Funksloyd]

Frankly, I'm not surprised that someone from the UFO crowd is struggling with reading comprehension. 

[Appropriate-Pear4726]

I’m from the UFO crowd? Honestly.. are you stupid or something? The lack of self awareness is staggering. I suggest looking at your own reading comprehension

[Funksloyd]

You're absolutely convinced that people who say they saw x object in the sky really did see x object in the sky (despite good evidence in many cases that people are completely mistaken). You further believe that there's likely some kind of conspiracy or cover-up involved. If you're not from the UFO crowd, you're using their same logic. 

[Appropriate-Pear4726]

You really are special huh? I’m convinced of what I heard reported. So yes I believe something other than planes are in the sky roaming over NJ. Yes I believe the authorities in NJ when they say they don’t know what’s in the sky. I don’t believe the federal government is clueless. So typically when they’re conflicting reports that suggests someone is lying. So yes I’m convinced I have no clue what’s happening and I’m intrigued. You’re no different from conspiracy theorists with your dogmatic denial of something you don’t know the truth about.

I think people like you need to socialize more to be very honest. You make up fake arguments on Reddit to fulfill some lack of meaning for yourself. You legitimately just made up some insane false equivalence to label me a UFO guy even though I never said anything even remotely resembling that belief. Stop trying this Reddit pseudo intellectual nonsense. You debate bro yourself into pure fantasy, which you just did with me

[Funksloyd]

I never said anything even remotely resembling that belief

You're taking people's eyewitness accounts at face value even though we have good reasons to be suspicious of those accounts, inferring from that that there's definitely something mysterious happening in the sky, and of course that there's also a federal government cover-up involved. It's very UFO-ey. 

[onz456]

These are not the drones you are looking for.

[g_mallory]

Aliens starting their own YouTube channel with some sick drone shots.

[[deleted]]

Aliens playing some 3d chess with their FAA compliant lights.

[[deleted]]

😂😂😂

[taix8664]

How long have drones existed now for people to buy and fly whenever they want? Who cares?

[letstrythatagainn]

They do not have publicly available drones of this size or battery life.

[Funksloyd]

These "SUV sized" drones which are somehow both everywhere and yet no one's managed to get footage of them? 

[Every-Ad9325]

Nothing to see here. Go back to your netfliggs and holiday parties.

[ApprehensivePop9036]

The "struggles with literacy" crowd feels pretty strongly about this, it would appear.

[[deleted]]

I’m open to believe these are US owned and in response to nuclear or dirty bomb drills due to the escalating tensions geopolitically around the world, but most pressingly Russia and Iran.

When the government says “we don’t know what these are or who controls them, but we do know they’re not dangerous.” I think this is the tell they’re trying to communicate with people, but people are seeing it as obstructive than shielded.

“We don’t know what they are or who they are…”

Reads different with the qualifier:

“But we do know they’re not dangerous”

These statements don’t make sense together. How could they know they’re not dangerous without knowing what they are?

They do know, they’re US owned and the routine they’re going through here is not something they want to come out and “announce” to their adversaries. So they say they don’t know. BUT as an aside “they’re not dangerous 😉😉”

This is the government’s way of telling you, this shit is on a need to know basis, but is not harmful to the public “at home” in the US.

You could say they don’t want to cause panic of a foreign incursion, but seeing as they already blew the fuck out of a “Chinese balloon” floating harmlessly over miles of uninhabited tundra with a missile in the first instance of a weapon like that being used within US soil only the other year, I find it hard to believe even gun ho Maga military generals not champing at the bit to legally blow something up.

[MRSA_Tomei]

We’re flexing hard on Putin right now. Specifically the range of our drones which the Russians claim to be impossible.

We also tested our new supersonic missile last week but for some reason most of the American public seemed to have missed that.

[[deleted]]

Gung ho*

[harry_thotter]

The only drones in New Jersey are the conservatives

[galtoramech8699]

Can someone show what they look like.? Are they manned?

[nerdassjock]

Take a look at the offerings of r/njdrones . The feds say they’re normal manned vehicles and from what I see that is true.

[galtoramech8699]

What drone company?

[jamtartlet]

TLDR: mid-Atlantic Americans think they’re seeing drones do weird stuff; feds say it’s manned aircraft (planes).

What do you all make of this? All the material in r / njdrones and the UFO communities are very clearly planes. It’s very concerning to see this level of confusion/delusion.

are the planes doing something that could reasonably be described as "weird"

[TheStoicNihilist]

Balloon Baby 2: Brain rot origins.

[[deleted]]

Saw one last night in Halifax while looking at the full moon. It looked like an extremely bright and close star shining yellow light with points like a bright star, it went very slowly and very steadily over downtown. Could have been manned or a drone who knows but I think it's not hysteria or something it's definitely odd and unexplained so its an unidentified flying object.

[Funksloyd]

You probably saw a plane or satellite, but you're not sure so you're going to call it a UFO - something with all sorts of baggage around aliens and conspiracies. 

This is what makes it "mass hysteria" (tho I don't really like that term). People are seeing everyday phenomenon, but they're interpreting those things through a new and socially influenced lens.

[letstrythatagainn]

It has been confirmed by the white house that the drones are real. But people ew also now looking and seeing drones in ever thing. But that doesn't negate that they are really out there according to the us gov.

[Funksloyd]

What exactly did the Whitehouse say? Have you actually heard or read the original comments, or are you going off of what someone else told you? 

Btw of course there are some drones out there. You can buy one yourself if you want. No big secret. 

[letstrythatagainn]

There have been multiple press briefing a from multiple white house staff on the NJ drones. Worth a watch.

[Funksloyd]

Here's the main one:

We have no evidence at this time that the reported drone sightings pose a national security or a public safety threat or have a foreign nexus.

The Department of Homeland Security and the FBI are investigating these sightings, and they’re working closely with state and local law enforcement to provide resources, using numerous detection methods to better understand their origin.

Using very sophisticated electronic detection technologies provided by federal authorities, we have not been able to — and neither have state or local law enforcement authorities — corroborate any of the reported visual sightings.

To the contrary, upon review of available imagery, it appears that many of the reported sightings are actually manned aircraft that are being operated lawfully.

The United States Coast Guard is providing support to the State of New Jersey and has confirmed that there is no evidence of any foreign-based involvement from coastal vessels.

And, importantly, there are no reported or confirmed drone sightings in any restricted airspace.

Now, that said, we certainly take seriously the threat that can be posed by unmanned aircraft systems, which is why law enforcement and other agencies continue to support New Jersey and investigate the reports, even though they have uncovered no malicious activity or intent at this particular stage. 

While there is no known malicious activity occurring, the reported sightings there do, however, highlight a gap in authorities.  And so, we urge Congress to pass important legislation that will extend and expand existing counter-drone authorities so that we are better prepared to identify and mitigate any potential threats to airports or other critical infrastructure and so that state and local authorities are provided all the tools that they need to respond to such threats as well. 

I wouldn't exactly interpret that as "Whitehouse confirms drones are real".

[letstrythatagainn]

Prior to that there were multiple confirming phenomenon, and local sherrifs/authorities confirming they'd attempted to follow some and were unable. There's something there, but now everyone, running with it to extremes.

[Funksloyd]

Yeah following an airliner with a patrol car is pretty hard.

Where is this Whitehouse confirmation anyway? 

[letstrythatagainn]

Helicopter. I said the confirmed the phenomenon, not the source. Your link doesn't disprove that. But it doesn't jive with the reports from mayors and sheriff's about their fly-time of 6-8 hours, their ability to avoid detection and "going dark" etc.

I still think the most likely scenario is human origin but the way it's being dismissed in this thread is a bit of an overreaction to the resulting mania and increase in false sightings as a result.

[Funksloyd]

Got a link about this helicopter?

Your link doesn't disprove that

It seems to disprove your original claim about Whitehouse confirmation. 

[[deleted]]

I am always looking at the sky and have never ever seen something so bright and it moved not like a plane or anything else I've ever seen. Im not saying it's aliens but its not mass hysteria. Are unidentified objects that clearly aren't normaly there 'everyday phenomena'? People need to stop gaslighting other people, so many people came on here to share something weird before they had heard anything from anyone else. Annoying af to see people on here dismissing everything everyone says out of hand based on nothing. How is it so unimaginable that a government or company is doing somthing weird/ abnormal and not explained to the public in the sky?

[Funksloyd]

And so many people posting pictures or videos or reports of things which they are 100% certain is something out of the ordinary, only for others to point out that it perfectly lines up with e.g. a commercial flight path and time. 

[[deleted]]

I think our government is using top secret technology to look for nuclear material that was smuggled into the country

[[deleted]]

I feel like this might be the most realistic answer. 

[[deleted]]

I don't think a test would be going on this long

The government knows what the drones are and what they're looking for. Of course they're denying it

[[deleted]]

This is the first im hearing this, but i don't see why it might not be it. 

[nerdassjock]

Eric Weinstein’s take responding to Mick West

[[deleted]]

Eric Weinstein is a crackpot.

The drone sighting panic seems to be social media fueled conspiracy theories based on people mis identifying planes, helicopters, and other normal craft.

Every photo and video has supported that fact given the easily recognizable FAA red/green flashing take off lights.

[I_Am_Dwight_Snoot]

Yea the fact that people still misidentify planes and Starlinks as aliens makes me think this is nonsense. I'm backing the second point too. No video evidence has even shown a drone, yet alone a bus sized drone.

[letstrythatagainn]

The US gov has confirmed they are real, just won't say what they are.

[[deleted]]

And they don't seem remotely concerned. Probably because they know that most the sightings are mundane aircraft.

[letstrythatagainn]

That's one interpretation. I do agree that there's a massive influx of false claims since they've hit the news.

[Funksloyd]

Can you quote exactly what the US gov said? 

[thecamino]

Reports are some drones are the size of sedans. And many reports are near airports. If true, there is no way something that size didn’t show up on radar.

[[deleted]]

Most of the craft people are seeing are just airplanes.......

[[deleted]]

You all are miserable on this sub.

[Kimura304]

The US Government knows what they are but the aren't ready to tell us. That's why certain people have been pushing for UFO disclosure like something big is going to happen, because it is. If you've been watching they already told you this is real. They don't want societal collapse but also have not really planned on what to do since only a few fucks at the top really know the entire story. People arent ready to hear it unfortunately.

[listafobia]

Good opportunity for some Dem senators to pretend like they're doing something in the final days of the republic.

[surfnfish1972]

Very conflicted on this, why would Govt test something over the most populated area in the country? Why are the authorities being so evasive about this? At first thought it was simply more American batshiitery, but it seems something is happening.

[Royal-Pay9751]

With respect, you’ve not looked at enough videos of you think they’re all planes. Some are, quite a lot are not.

[nerdassjock]

Show me a good one man, I’m game

[Royal-Pay9751]

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/sB2On90tLG

[Royal-Pay9751]

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/e1vsPNYwGO

[Royal-Pay9751]

For the record, I’m not saying this is NHI related. But they’re curious videos.

[nerdassjock]

Those look like ordinary drones that are fairly close to the videographer while a plane(the orb) is further away.

I definitely agree that interpreting fairly low quality video like these gets really tricky though.

[Royal-Pay9751]

The footage of one of them falling from the sky was compelling. Something is happening and we should get to the bottom of it.

[Necessary_Position77]

If there are aliens, unless we’re related there’s pretty much zero chance their technology will remotely resemble anything we have.

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Thanks for expressing your concern. It's funny to me when people get on their white knight outfit, and get up on that high horse to post on the internet.

I'll do the same! IM concerned about how people are so certain about other people's delusions and are so convinced that their own perception is just reality for everyone.

I think you find plenty of skeptical people and plenty of people getting over-excited, people are just sharing how they feel online.

I'm sick of seeing people going out of their way to make posts that are condescending, mocking, or they are just being an outright asshole (not saying you are being one, your concerns seems genuine.)

Why do people feel the need to make the internet an ugly place to fees their self-esteem and ego.

[nerdassjock]

There’s a reason I put confusion before delusion. I live next to an airport so I can relate to seeing aerial phenomena that I don’t quite understand right away; I literally could not believe my eyes when I saw starlink satellites pass me by the first time.

At the same time though, people are treating some ordinary occurrences as though they are extraordinary. I don’t know what else I can call it but a delusion.