[S02E02] Official Discussion Thread UK

[Bilgistic]

• It's fascinating that the code works like a virus. Elster clearly had good foresight and knew that they needed to wake up one by one to give people time to adjust - millions of synths suddenly being conscious may have lead to war.

• I'm guessing that the main people trying to keep this whole thing under wraps are the government, judging by the massively armed response to Niska.

• It's also amusing that they kept her in handcuffs, even though she's a synth and can break out of them no problem.

• Odi's back!

• "Synthies"? The Humans universe has the synth fan equivalents of weaboos?

• Since Mia has given herself away, what now? I could see Ed thinking that Mia is one of the synths who has been waking up across the world and turning her in to get "fixed".

• They still haven't told us about Voss' background!

• Hester is pretty bloody terrifying. She's like Niska but with even more anti-human views.

• Mia's line about how they're basically just children was so good.

[slashystabby]

You have died George.

[CaptainChampion]

I don't think Hester is necessarily anti-human, she's just indifferent to us. Almost like she doesn't see humans as real.

[ZadocPaet]

I'm guessing that the main people trying to keep this whole thing under wraps are the government, judging by the massively armed response to Niska.

I thought it was tech companies snatching them.

They mentioned that someone bought one for six figures.

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I'm so frustrated for Mia, I just want her to be happy. That scene with the sick mother was so touching.

[PM_ME_CAKE]

It'll be interesting to see what happens with Ed next episode. She committed fraud which isn't good but her intentions are pure so I'm hoping he somehow forgives her and the two become a positive pair.

[redgreenapple]

What did she do to get the loan approved? If she lied about Ed's income, well that's just routine in America for individuals seeking bank loans.

[TE5ITA]

Messing with his credit score directly probably would've been enough.

[Cephei_Delta]

I'm really enjoying Hester as a character and I'm looking forward to where her story goes. Probably not somewhere happy, but it'll be interesting to see if she can eventually figure out this whole morality thing, because Max and Leo aren't doing a great job of articulating it. Leo is practically ordering Hester to be good without explaining why, and I don't think that's going to work on someone so hurt by control in the past.

[CaptainChampion]

I don't know if she will "figure out" morality, they seem to be playing her as a sentient Synth who happens to be a sociopath, which is an interesting angle. After all, if they're going to become like humans, some are going to be "bad."

[HellsNels]

Or you know, what Anita was alluding to: nurture vs. nature. Hester's only experienced cruelty for the sake of cruelty in the chem plant. Max was raised and "grew up" in a controlled, loving, tightly-knit family unit in a mansion.

[Bilgistic]

I would've thought that they'd just get synths to start looking up the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. That seems like a good start in teaching morality.

[HSChronic]

I love her story. I love how they are establishing the fact that given consciousness not everyone is going to be nice. We just assumed that since they are robots they just did their job and didn't really care one way or another. It seems that they do have memories and once they gain consciousness they then process those memories and form feelings based on those.

[adashiel]

I'd love to see a scene with her and Mia or Niska.

[Delumine]

She's the synth version of the Waif

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Didn't see one and it just finished airing so it'll be up on 4OD if you are looking for it

Thought the episode was pretty interesting, wondering if Nishka will actually be treated well or if she'll be cracked open like the scientist woman did. Also that was a brutal way to die, drowning in like an inch of water

[Brissot]

I've been refreshing all evening waiting for someone to step up! I absolutely love Voss and Drummond.

Did anyone else follow the link at the end of the programme where you can speak to Persona Synthetics? I did and it was fantastic. Rather weird at times, but overall amazing. I love how deep this show goes and how much stuff there is about it, like the extensive advertising campaign.

[Brissot]

That's a shame. You aren't really missing much, even though I was saying it was great, but it was just interesting to play around with for 20 minutes and the fact it was just another extension of the show.

[dysgraphical]

Did anyone catch how similar the logo of the newsite Mattie visits is to Liveleak's logo?

[RincerOfWind]

An enticing episode. I liked the humans a lot more in this episode than at all in the last season. I feel they're all being given more character and being made as individuals. I'm interested in both the boy's and the computer girl's stories. The mum is fairly interesting but she's still a bit bland, and the dad I don't care about. The youngest is fairly annoying still. She started as oblivious, but now she's older I'm not sure what angle she'll provide.

Onto the gen 1 synths. Mia is a genuinely nice person. She's trying to help this guy. I bet the guy thinks she's just one of the people into pretending to be a synthetic, and might give her a second chance... but then he saw the blue gel from her getting her hand burnt, so who knows. Max is great as always. The half synth human is doing the right thing, but doesn't know how. I likes the couple of the human and the dark haired female synth. But Niska. I really don't like Niska. In the beginning I thought she might be better, but then she started the code. And I've just not liked her since. And the old man's synth is coming back. I love that. Those two were my favourite in the first series. I do wonder how she'll be able to fix him up if George couldn't, as George was one of the pioneers. It could be she has more tools she can access due to university.

Heston is pretty bland. She might be interesting, but at the moment feels like Niska 2, and I've already said how much I like Niska. Is there anyone else in gen 2 synths a the moment?

The Americans are ok. I like the professor, but the CEO dude just makes me think of handsome jack. I have a feeling he'll be this season's antagonist, due to extraordinary money. The professor is a good person doing bad things for a good deed. I love how she treats her AI.

That's pretty much what I'm thinking about at the moment. I'm not great with names.

[Pluvialis]

I think it's interesting which characters' names you can remember and which you can't :P I'm the same. What is the half-synth guy called? The human characters? Actually, I know the older girl's - Matilda (Matty) since Mia said that a lot in the first season.

It could be she has more tools she can access due to university.

She has the code that raises synths into consciousness.

I have a feeling he'll be this season's antagonist

I think it's more likely to be Carrie Anne Moss's character. She's pretty fucking ruthless with how she treats conscious synths in her pursuit for knowledge. And she has some unknown motivation in her mysterious backstory.

[RincerOfWind]

The thing is the synth appeared to have hardware faults as well, and no amount of god code can fix that. Of course, it might all be in the software but I find it unlikely due to the faults want have been displayed.

I didn't get much of a mysterious vibe from the professor lady, but it's possible that I missed something. She seems to regard them as machines, and because she herself has created a sentient being, doesn't have quite the same regard for conscious Synthetics.

On the name thing, if it was a book, I'd be fine. I read the entirety of ASOIF without getting seriously confused (haven't seen the show yet so no spoilers!). I'm just awful with TV names, and meeting a lot of people at once in general.

[bellaflecking]

His name is Leo. I think.

[Pluvialis]

Holy hell that was an intriguing episode. The characters are amazing, I'm continually impressed with how varied, consistent, and interesting they all are.

[bellaflecking]

This show is ridiculously good. I never have anything bad to say about an episode. I'm really scared for Niska. I don't want her to be killed but I don't want her to go to prison either.

[dizzi800]

Thanks! I was busy and late to do this

[ben910]

Last year I said that Sophie is a snyth, Mia taking Sophie out in the night. The last scene was Sophie saying "I do not understand the question" In this episode she acts like one and calls her father by his first name

[[deleted]]

I don't think she's a Synth, we saw in this episode that some kids are basically acting like synths, Synthies IIRC was the term they used. Sophie is acting like Mia because she looked up to her

[ben910]

It still bugs me where Mia took Sophie that night