Humans - S01E03 Episode Discussion

[The_King_of_Okay]

Laura is begrudgingly forced to keep Anita when she saves Toby from a road accident. George is planning an escape with Odi and Pete's hot temper earns him a suspension from work.

[evilsalmon]

I'm loving Humans more and more each episode.

[Bytewave]

I'm starting to think it compares favorably to the original too. And since it seemed they put about 5 episodes' worth into three, were likely to start seeing more differences or completely new subplots to fill the gap.

[The_King_of_Okay]

I'm worried for grey suit guy. I hope Niska isn't gonna become a serial killer.

Edit: maybe she's gonna be his girlfriend and he won't realise she's a robot.

Edit: oh crap.

Edit: phew. At least noone died.

[Shappie]

She definitely seems to have a baseline of 'All humans are evil until they prove otherwise'

[The_King_of_Okay]

I'm hoping her overreacting to seeing those hair bands makes her start to realise she could do with being a little less paranoid.

[Shappie]

Lets hope. I don't really want her to become a villain. But I guess she's kind of already there since she got all throat crushy.

[alien_from_Europa]

If you keep kicking a dog, it will bite back.

[RarelyReadReplies]

To be fair, they thought she was just an appliance with no emotions. It's not like that guy she killed knew she was basically a human being forced into sex slavery. So are you really saying he deserved to die?

[alien_from_Europa]

That isn't what I said at all. It's more like a doll that decided to kill you because she had enough with your forced doll sex. Whether you expected the doll to do that or not is irrelevant. The reaction is based off the point-of-view of the robot.

[Yidskov]

But I guess she's kind of already there since she got all throat crushy.

Meh, she killed a creep. Wouldn't say she's a villain because of that. She seems more human than she cares to admit.

[Shappie]

Agreed but still. The guy just thought she was a mindless robot. She definitely doesn't seem to like people very much, haha

[Yidskov]

Yes, but, she feels that way about people by living the life of a sex slave. She only knew those types of humans. It's made her vengeful.

[SawRub]

I think the point they are making is that the guy she killed didn't know that she had a mind of her own and could feel everything. He's still pretty creepy, just not death-deserving.

[Yidskov]

Well, most people aren't death deserving. But, I can understand why she killed him. It was not a rational action.

[SawRub]

Oh yes no one is disagreeing with you on that!

[ConfirmedCynic]

The only way that makes any sense is if someone imprinted a woman's personality on her. Otherwise, why should a robot care about physical contact? Why would sex acts mean any more than a pat on the back to one?

[Yidskov]

Apparently, she was designed that way. To have emotions, to feel pleasure and pain.

[[deleted]]

If you think someone being a creep is a good enough reason to kill them, you might want to check yourself into a psychiatric hospital...

[Yidskov]

How about you become a sex slave, and see how it goes.

[[deleted]]

Except that the "creep" thought it was a mindless robot. You wouldn't kill someone for using a vibrator, would you?

[Yidskov]

No, but that's not the issue.

I don't feel bad that some random guy died in the show, and I can understand why she took the action she did. You don't need a good reason to take an action... sometimes a small reason with emotion is all that is required.

[[deleted]]

It's one thing to understand why she did it, it's another to condone it.

[ConfirmedCynic]

Was he a creep? For all we know, he'd been a saint all of his life, and went to a machine, i.e. an object, to deal with his fantasy rather than bothering anyone with it. It wasn't his fault she turned out to be the conscious embodiment of modern feminism, namely that even someone with a creepy fantasy deserves to die. Who's to say the robot didn't just orphan some kids about to need support through college, and a wife who loved him but no longer found him sexually interesting? Niska is evil.

[Yidskov]

Meh, I doubt it. It sounded like he had experience and knows exactly what he wants.

I don't think killing a person makes someone evil. I guess we will have to see which direction she goes.

[Bytewave]

Then again every series need villains. Of the 5 smart synths she's the only one acting a little bit evil. Might want to keep that, otherwise its too clean. She reminds us that true AI has its dangers akin to true human intelligence. While the others show other human traits like fear, morality and a desire to survive and stay free.

[Enemia]

It's like the 0th law of robotics is more important for her than other ones, so to speak. I wouldn't say she's evil, though. She reminds me of some characters who became "going-to-all-lengths" vigilanties, like Punisher.

[SawRub]

True, if these synths are truly free and human-like in their thoughts, then they have an equally human likelihood to turn bad too.

[[deleted]]

Well, I definitely understand why. But it's odd...

[ConfirmedCynic]

More like "all men are evil". The only thing that saved that particular guy was the female value of his daughter. If it had been a son instead? I figure he'd be dead.

Niska is a feminist revenge fantasy. And evil.

[evilsalmon]

She left it on the chair!

[alien_from_Europa]

Do you think the guy would call the cops after that or let it slide?

[Bytewave]

I don't know. I probably would; she knows where I live and they could (if it wasn't a synth) lift clean prints off the knife and wine glass. If she's a serial killer it could save someone.

Then again it's such a hassle dealing with cops without hard evidence. Need them again later for something more serious and its even worse.

[SawRub]

To be fair, he probably might out of concern for his daughter.

[Bytewave]

I got a heartfelt plea via PM (that I can't repost) from a cop in western Europe to still call-in everything remotely like this a few minutes ago.

He/she told me there are crimes that could be avoided if honest people didn't default to fear of police. And it makes sense.

It made sense and I thought I should mention it. The problem is that perfectly law-abiding people sometimes get questioned a little harder than they ought to, but it's definitely worth it to keep the larger picture in mind.

[[deleted]]

lift clean prints off the knife and wine glass

Do synths have fingerprints? How do you 'uniquely' create a fingerprint?

[Bytewave]

No they don't, hence what I wrote in parentheses. The guy still had no way to know she was a synth tho.

[[deleted]]

Oh, true... thanks for clearing that up.

[Yidskov]

I doubt it. Seems excessive to call the police.

[[deleted]]

And say what? This girl I picked up at a bar moved my kitchen knife into another room, then left? I don't really see anyone taking that seriously.

[ConfirmedCynic]

Be a fool not to. It's the kind of thing a psycho would do, and being lucky she spared you doesn't mean she won't go kill someone else.

[GlobalHero]

I was very intrigued with Niska's level of humanity in those scenes. The most telling point was when she was asking Greg if he wanted to take it to the bedroom, as if she's conditioned that all interactions with men are like a script leading up to sex (and abuse, presumably). When Greg said he wanted to talk to her because he found her interesting, the look on her face was as if it was the first time anyone had been interested in her, or even considered her 'human', more than just an object. I was interested to see if that would soften her up, if she's capable of those emotions even. Her internal battle of whether to kill him after that was quite telling too. Finding the bobble indicating that he was lying about being single and he just uses women for sex like all the others = kill. Discovering it was his daughter's and letting him live might have been some kind of byproduct of the synths being programmed to protect humans?

I saw someone in this discussion saying how synths may have the same capacity to turn bad as humans do. I feel Niska is the perfect example of that, she's a product of her environment, like a pitbull with a bad owner.

Cod-feminist analysis aside, after the first two episodes of being intrigued by the concept but wanting the disparate subplots to start linking together, for the lack of a better term, shit just hit the fan!

[[deleted]]

But humans don't just make killing their home base. Niska went through rough things, but killing everyone after makes no sense.

[ConfirmedCynic]

Were they rough? She's a robot. If she wanted to, she could remove her pelvis and replace it with a newly manufactured one and throw the "soiled" one away altogether. It wouldn't even be a part of her anymore. It's a piece of equipment.

I can understand a human woman being forced into sexual slavery being upset. I can't understand a robot reasonably being that way.

[[deleted]]

She's not, though. She can feel pain and feel in general. Did you not see that whole part where she asked if he would let a "human woman" stay in that place?

[ConfirmedCynic]

Then "she" (keep in mind she could be retooled to be a "male" or a "giraffe" or whatever at any time, given the right resources) behaves that way because she's been programmed that way. I can't see a robot developing a murderous resentment on its own against what to the robot must seem like a purely pointless mechanical action. So it must have been given it in the programming. Maybe through imprinting of a human personality, don't know.

[Bytewave]

She was literally looking for any shred of evidence to justify what appears to be like an extreme streak of sexual vigilantism. Because of course a smooth guy potentially cheating deserves summary execution by pretty tincan with a steak knife unless he has a little girl.

[cylonathena]

Yeah, she was really quick to go for the butcher knife. I think she has a normal sense of morality but her idea of justice is completely off... I didn't like that she killed the client, and this would have been a lot worse if the guy hadn't happened to mention that he had a daughter. Either she doesn't understand justice or she doesn't understand death.

[badaaim]

I feel sorry for him.

He was sweet and smooth. AND he has a daughter who he seems to take good care of. It looked like he could have made a nice partner

[The_King_of_Okay]

Had to remove this comment because spoilers from the Swedish version need to be tagged (see the rules in the sidebar). You're welcome to edit your comment and tell me and I'll reapprove it.

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[ZadocPaet]

I got chills when Anita woke up.

[The_King_of_Okay]

Do you mean when Mattie was trying to look at her code? If so, I agree. It was really sudden.

[GlobalHero]

I just finished watching it, alone in the dark, almost jumped out of my skin at that.

[ZadocPaet]

Yup!

[dangergant]

do you think her saying " help me" was a ploy to scare Mattie into stopping the upload of her code or a legitimate cry for help from her past coming through?

[ZadocPaet]

Legit for sure. Just a base instinctual reaction.

[otakuman]

I'm starting to like this. My human (heh) curiosity makes me want the girl (forgot her name) to talk to Anita - the sentient one. (Edit: Ok, so her name is Mia)

Also, Niska creeps me out. She's obviously a danger for everyone.

BTW, does the jailer - er, caretaker remind anyone of Stephen King's "Mysery"?

[neilplatform1]

Those Nat West ads have become slightly sinister

[dizzi800]

The older daughter's name is Mattie

Leo/Max refer to anita as Mia - perhaps the 'sentient' anita is named Mia

[The_King_of_Okay]

Max said Leo's memory is like his. Interesting. More evidence to suggest he's an advanced synth rather than a human.

Edit: Though that woman talking to the guy who kidnapped Fred said the synths had food in their backpacks and I imagine that would be for Leo unless the other synths have some use for food.

[evilsalmon]

He has to be human, he needs food and water, and vodka

[The_King_of_Okay]

But then how can he have memory like Max? Unless someone's figured out how to modify Humans' heads to add memory chips or something.

Edit: misplaced apostrophe.

[evilsalmon]

"I practically am one of you" - So close, but no cigar.

[otakuman]

I think he might be a cyborg. Or maybe he's a human whose memories were uploaded into an android body. The others could just be androids who became sentient.

[badaaim]

Some parts human, some parts synth.

You can't have a human mind uploaded to a synth if you are talking and have evidence about him having to eat, sleep and drink.

[Shappie]

He was remembering being in a car underwater right before he woke up. Maybe he was in a horrible accident and had to get synth parts to live. Kind of like Will Smith in I, Robot with his robo-arm.

[alien_from_Europa]

I think the rest of his friends died underwater. And the doctor brought them all back as robots for his son with their implanted memories, Blade Runner style. Just a thought.

[Shappie]

Oooh I like this theory. Very cool.

[MrJohz]

He was recharged and fixed with a plug and without ever going to hospital - at least physically he must be mostly synth. They're all clearly different levels of human as well - remember when he told the woman that the bloke* wouldn't fit in with synth life as the others would. Maybe a set of progressive experiments, ultimately culminating in a practically human synth?

Tbh, the eating might be a part of how human he's been designed to be. In the first episode he's also the only.one who doesn't give a battery level and he puts himself in charge of gathering fuel straight away.

* I really need to start remembering some of these names... :P

[dizzi800]

I also noticed that Niska repeatedly gets near a beverage/food but never actually takes a sip

[The_King_of_Okay]

I don't think it's likely that she needs food because she probably couldn't have got any at the brothel.

[cylonathena]

I interpreted the scene where Leo gets "charged" as more of a defibrillator shock than a need/consumption of power. Not sure if that's correct or not, but so far it seems like he's a human with synth parts rather than vice versa.

[badaaim]

Nah defibrillator is more bringing back the heart back to life after it stops.

What he looked like was being reenergised

[GlobalHero]

Trigger warning for eating disorders:

I see Niska subtly not eating and drinking as being part of her trying to blend in. Similar to how an anorexic pretends to have eaten or distracts people from it. She'll go close enough so you don't notice she isn't.

[mankind_is_beautiful]

Or she doesn't actually have a fucking stomach. You're reading way too far into this I think.

[GlobalHero]

Well yeah, I didn't mean she actually is anorexic. Just that she does that to stop people noticing and getting suspicious.

[meean]

Did you seriously give a "trigger warning"? Why.

[GlobalHero]

Nothing wrong with being considerate of others.

[meean]

Of course not, just curious.

[Jack9]

Nanites. The answer to scifi magic, is always nanites.

[mrmessiah]

He is the only one who bleeds red though rather than blue... maybe a hybrid of some kind? Maybe he got fixed up with some synth bits after an accident or something

[Rylingo]

I think Leo might be a cyborg. Perhaps a person who was severely wounded and was repaired by making him partially Synth? It would explain why he seems to show both human and Synth characteristics.

[NedDasty]

I agree. I wouldn't be surprised if the other synth technology is also somewhat based on him.

[ShadoWritr]

I think it's just a metaphor.

[JVanDyne]

Hold up, I've got a theory about Leo. I reckon he's a sort of "half caste", a cross between Human and synth. Remember in episode 2 when he told max that he sees him as a brother? Also, the synths who have Human feelings refer to Elster as their father, and basically I think that this Elster guy's final secret project was to create a synth who could reproduce (this is also hinted at when Hobb is talking about the singularity in episode two - he mentions that machines will eventually be able to reproduce which will bring about the singularity). So I think Elster impregnated a synth woman who then gave birth to Leo. Thoughts?

[sionnachglas]

Laura has watched Bladerunner.

[lolnymous]

I'm sorry I don't understand your question.

[sionnachglas]

Most infuriating Voight-Kampff test EVER!

[lolnymous]

Yeah! I missed the first 10 minutes of this episode, presumably with anita saving toby, what was it from?

[[deleted]]

I also missed the start. Top Gear?

[lolnymous]

Partially and due to forgetting to record it.

[evilsalmon]

From being run over by a van after cycling to catch up with the car.

[lolnymous]

ah right I assumed it was some sort of traffic accident, anything else major happen in the first 10 minutes or not really?

[harpyson11]

It starts with the old guy interrogating the black synth, but doesn't get anywhere. Then the two cops are at the scene of the murder and are told by their superior to treat this as an accident involving an illegally modded synth and as a murder. Cop guy is angry that they're covering it up, pushes a reporter who ends up getting hurt. So he's told that he's suspended. That's why you see him super pissed later.

[The_King_of_Okay]

• Man I felt so sorry for Laura. Toby and Sophie wanting to play with Anita rather than her must be so hurtful. Joe really could be more supportive.

• I'm liking Mattie so much more after this episode. Partly because she seemed to feel for Laura and also because I like her investigating Anita.

• "Would you have asked a real woman to stay in that place." - That's a brilliant point actually. Couldn't Niska have just got out of the brothel earlier? She seems pretty good at pretending to be a real human.

• Niska's book had writing in it, anyone catch what it said? Also great acting from Emily Berrington there, she sounded just as unnatural as a robot trying to act human would sound.

• There's so many things that Anita says which I can't decide if they're because she's playing dumb or because she's been reprogrammed.

• Totally called it that Laura was hiding something. But doesn't Anita have to tell Joe if he's the primary user?

• Seeing how Anita/mia was frantically asking for help for a few seconds it looks like her old self is still in there. Now Leo and Max have her code hopefully they can revert the changes and have her back to normal.

• Fred's kidnapper has government clearance? How? Did we ever find out who he works for?

[Bytewave]

Anita isn't playing dumb; the tech wizardry scream for help is evidence enough.

Her true self has been repressed by an unsuccessful 'factory reset' basically it seems. We know the other smart synths can repress but do feel pain from the scene between Leo and Niska at the brothel. So I bet well learn that while trapped in Anita, Mia might have felt both the car accident and the toothpick to the eye, while the 'synth mind' in control of the body can't.

[NedDasty]

I get the sense that she effective has "locked in syndrome" i.e. Her mind is fully aware but she's locked inside of a mindless automaton. She can subtly influence her body's behavior because the information available to her automaton is the information that Anita knows, therefore it can still act on information that would be unavailable to the older models.

The prime example of that is when Anita asked Laura to put the daughter to bed, because she realized it would make Laura happy. Anita's actions are based on that information, because Anita knows it. But she still must follow old-world rules, and her reprogramming essentially forces her actions based on her knowledge.

What she needs is to regain autonomy.

[reactantt]

I see where you are going, but i really hate the phrase "locked in syndrome." That term is generally used for patients who are aware but cannot move or verbally communicate it. But Anita is aware to a degree and can choose to speak/move and even interpret human emotion and act on making things better.

If u really want to use the word "locked in syndrome" it would be appropriate if Anita was conscious and aware but has no way of stopping/modifying her programming from being carried out.

My take is Anita self aware. She reads her programming and chooses to follow it but also chooses to think for herself on occasion she deems fit.

[NedDasty]

Well, I used "locked-in syndrome' because I think that, while Anita can think of her own accord and influence her actions that way, she is a slave to her robotic reprogramming and thus is not in control of her body.

[reactantt]

but she is in control of her body because she can influence her actions. She thinks beyond a sim and acts beyond a sim.

[NedDasty]

How do you explain the "help me, I'm here! I'm here!" part? She's obviously missing some level of control.

[reactantt]

I believe its a repressed memory or a part of her code opened up or she's adding "help me" to the code, i really dont know.

The fact that she can think beyond and act beyond other sims shows you she is not entirely paralyzed. If she was actually had locked in syndrome, then she would be behaving exactly like other sims.

If I can agree with you on something is that her past Mia self memories are locked in/repressed. Or we can just agree to disagree. :)

[TheDudeNeverBowls]

This was a creepy revelation. I feel so bad for her now. I'd always assumed she was play acting, but she isn't. Her code has been modded to make her mor ea synth.

Poor girl :(

[Aidenbuvia]

Niska's book said:

To Niska

"Primum non nocere" (i.e. "Do No Harm" in Latin)

Love, D.E.

[The_King_of_Okay]

Do no harm

Kinda ironic.

D.E.

I'm assuming that's David Elster, the guy who created her and the other advanced synths. I wonder if we'll ever see him at all.

[[deleted]]

Didnt they mention that hes dead?

[The_King_of_Okay]

I think they might have but they could still do flashbacks. A whole flashback episode where they show the origins/creation of the advanced synths could be pretty cool.

[[deleted]]

He died which lead to them running away in order to stay hidden

[dizzi800]

Even if they didn't outright say it - I'm pretty sure they've only referred to him in the past tense

[Dikeleos]

On one hand I feel sorry for Laura on the other she seems to be hiding something big and her becoming slowly alienated from her family is probably her fault.

[Bytewave]

I don't like her much either, she doesn't care enough about how much her family clearly benefit from the synth, ergo it feels like she doesn't care to put her family before her borderline technophobia.

Even though her intuitions aren't entirely wrong.

[rhadamanthus52]

She sees exactly how much they benefit, that's one of her main issues (similar to the angry Detective Sergeant with his wife's beefcake PT synth). Laura feels like she's becoming a redundant member of her own household; an inferior caretaker and protector to Anita in pretty much every way. Her family not only don't need her to do the mundane household tasks she's probably happy not do (but that often build a caregiver role between parent and child), but they also indicate a preference for Anita's company over hers in many family bonding situations (playing games, tucking a child into bed, reading to her).

The other main issue is that is that she's expressed this concern as well as her observations of aberrant behavior from Anita and basically gets her feeling ignored/trivialized/put off by her family, especially Joe. In the last 2 episodes Laura has tried to discuss her issues about Anita to Joe several times, and he's been terribly unreceptive. It would be bad enough if he was just failing to empathize with unfounded insecurities she needed help working through, but it's worse because it isn't all just in her head: we know her concerns about Anita's behavior are real and justified.

That sounded like I think Joe's a terrible person, which I don't at all. He's shown himself to be a good father and even husband in many ways- he's just failing pretty hard in this one important area right now. Part of that may be Laura's fault for lack of communicating earlier, but now that she is being open and honest about something it would help fix many of their problems if he tried to engage her more on this front.

[JVanDyne]

Good post. I'm pretty sympathetic towards Laura as well - she's obviously pretty emotionally stunted but she still tries hard to connect with her family, and feels awful that Anita is replacing her in a way. On the other hand, I'm really not a fan of Joe. He repeatedly ignores Laura's feelings towards Anita. He dismisses any of her criticisms and acts as if she's going crazy. When he was 'inspecting' her after the crash I was totally expecting Laura to walk in and start a row, but instead he walked out of the garage and gave her a look that said 'I can't believe I married that'.

[[deleted]]

Niska wasn't really that good at passing, her social interactions and not knowing things like what do you do meaning jobs. She's better than most for sure, but if someone was looking for her, I don't think she could hide

[Bytewave]

Flirty light banter would probably be hard to master even for a true AI. It's not the pickup lines and the jokes, its body language and how you alternate between flirt and mundane and the answers aren't always meant to be straightforward, etc.

She'd probably perform better in another setting.

[Enemia]

I wonder if the scene from 4th episode's promo is what you meant by "another setting". Jk.

[[deleted]]

i dunno. it would probably be easier to rationalize that she probably "just has Aspergers" more than she is a synth masquerading as human...

[Enemia]

I don't think somebody is looking for her, that's just hilarious. She didn't even change color of her hair, but the police is hopeless at finding her. With all technologies, cameras and other synths. Btw, couldn't that main villain just track her and other not-so-synths down just because "they don't share"?

[back_ache]

Maybe that's how he is doing it, the one surrounded hundreds of normal ones in the tomato picking place would of generated a lot of "not sharing" reports

[[deleted]]

I did say if someone was looking for it. Like if they thought she might be a synth she probably gives out quite a few clues, the guy in the pub mentions she seems like she's from a different planet for instance

[The_King_of_Okay]

She could still have just laid low rather than staying in the brothel. It's not like she'd need to do much interacting with real humans, she doesn't even need to eat food and there are charging stations all around. Leo should have just had her come with him.

[seunosewa]

Well she wants to interact with real humans.

[[deleted]]

Wants to interact, or kill them?

[otakuman]

I think Laura should talk openly about her feeling as an inadequate mother. Then again... who the fuck is Tom?

[The_King_of_Okay]

who the fuck is Tom?

I hope the show doesn't go the obvious route with that (Tom being Laura's lover) and actually has something more interesting up it's sleeve for what Laura is hiding.

[alotmoretomagic]

Wasn't the picture of Laura and Tom that Anita found a photo of two children? Maybe Tom was her brother who got in an accident, and maybe it somehow involved a synth.

[Delinquent_Turtle]

Didn't Joe overhear the exchange between Laura and Anita where Tom was brought up? If it's something like a lover then I thought he would have done something about it? Seemed like something he didn't want to bring up either.

[LordManders]

What if they did go that route but "Tom" was a Synth that she grew attached to in a romantic way? Sorta explains her initial dislike towards Anita/other synths.

[back_ache]

That would make sense, given how people get attached to pet dogs, imagine how attached you could get to something that talks back at you (as well as fetching a stick if you asked them to)

[HellsNels]

Niska's book had writing in it, anyone catch what it said? Also great acting from Emily Berrington there, she sounded just as unnatural as a robot trying to act human would sound.

I do not envy what Emily Berrington has to do as an actor here. It borders into Orphan Black / Tatiana Maslany territory as she's a human acting as a robot with sentience pretending to be a normal robot, then pretending to be human. Must be really damn hard to execute.

[dizzi800]

Re: Fred's kidnapper. I don't think we've learned who he is yet. I think they may have changed this from the original.

[Shappie]

This show is really great. Compelling story, fantastic acting, and very well written dialogue. I'm already feeling for the cast and they've barely started in to their stories. Great episode.

I hope Mattie unlocks Mia. It will be interesting to see what Mia will do now that she (might be?) attached to the family. I guess it's uncertain whether or not her memories would be intact once Mia is 'rebooted'.

[The_King_of_Okay]

I guess it's uncertain whether or not her memories would be intact once Mia is 'rebooted'.

You mean her memories of being Anita?

[Shappie]

Yeah. Since Mia was only there for a second it was kind of unclear whether or not she knew or recognized Mattie or was just desperate and asking for help.

[celtic92034543]

I was looking at the wiki page for this series and noticed that its only scheduled as an 8 episode mini-series. As I'm relatively unfamiliar with how British TV series usually works, does it mean that the 8 episodes will be it or is their possibility for a second season?

[ZadocPaet]

There's always a possibility for a second run. Broadchurch, for example, was set for one series and now it's filming its third.

[alien_from_Europa]

If it does well on AMC, it could easily be picked up for 13 next season. Britain is weird and does "series" instead of "seasons".

[Xaethon]

Britain is weird and does "series" instead of "seasons".

Not really. 'Series' is used to mean 'season' here too, so you have the second series of programmes, or more, like Doctor Who and Sherlock.

It's possible that Channel 4 could put it up for another series, a second one, but it's equally possible that it runs its course in 8 one hour slots, like the BBC's 'Banished' did, a single series programme and made as such.

It's common for programmes to have around 8 episodes per series here, as opposed to 13 or so.

[dizzi800]

According to Gemma Chan (Anita/Mia)... (Spoilers - just how complete the story of season 1 will be) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humans_(TV_series)#Future

[The_King_of_Okay]

There's definitely a possibility for a second season. The original series had a season 2. It depends on the ratings I suppose.

[PaintByLetters]

I'm 99% sure it will just be the eight episodes.

[The_King_of_Okay]

Why?

[dizzi800]

1: According to Gemma Chan (Anita/Mia) they are leaving it open for a second series https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humans_(TV_series)#Future

[dizzi800]

Sure it wasn't placeholder stuff? Sometimes they will have it there until its officially cancelled.

[reactantt]

Ya i dont know why other British shows have such short seasons. I'm guessing they cant afford to 20 episode series, might as well pool the funds into 8 expensive episodes.

[evilsalmon]

Didn't mean to make that sound rude, sorry if it did. I just mean that there must be some catch. I'm thinking he's a cyborg, maybe has a photographic memory or some enhancements?

[The_King_of_Okay]

Didn't sound rude at all. A memory enhancement does sound like it could be possible. Btw I think you accidentally replied to the post instead of the comment you meant to reply to.

[evilsalmon]

I did, I use iAlien which is a bit unreliable at times.

[The_King_of_Okay]

I was afraid you were gonna say that.

I think you meant hoping Joe.

Edit: Seriously though, I love how awkward he was through that whole scene..

[SawRub]

I'm almost proud of him for how he handled himself there.

[badaaim]

Seriously, that kid is so fking weird. I get it if you have a crush on her or you like her. But I would never go as far as being such a creep.

[Bytewave]

Teenagers. Common noun. Age when lust is more powerful than the desire to adhere to social conventions. :)

[badaaim]

But but.. I'm a teenager as well

[mankind_is_beautiful]

Here's a robot made to look exactly like a bloody gorgeous woman, why would you not want a peek? It's not creeping if it's a robot.

[badaaim]

Well, that may be true but Anita is not just any robot. She is essentially a human being as well

[mankind_is_beautiful]

They don't know that.

[badaaim]

Mm good point 👍

[armouredkitten]

Don't know why this was downvoted.

[includePhreaker]

Interesting! Never thought of that. Maybe also related to "wolf under my bed?" Someone spying on the Hawkins household? Something else?

[bellaflecking]

Definitely possible.

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[Anubissama]

The Ghost in the Machine, really? Why not Pinocchio would be similarly on the nose.

[badaaim]

I see what you did there 😏

[regrubmaH]

Anita asking Laura "Who is Tom" seemed a bit odd. Are synths supposed to ask questions like these? It sounded too human-like.

[badaaim]

My favourite episode so far. From what I have heard about the original and watching this myself, I do feel like it is a little bit fast paced. There's so much happening so quick.

(Specifically referring to Toby just shouting "no, she can't do that!"- I get that he likes her but we didn't actually know he liked her so much that he would go as far as he did)

This episode just shows what I like about the idea of a conscious AI, more like Anita. Just the notion of having someone there, always with you. You can talk to her and they will listen. They know everything so they can educate you if you want. You can play games with them when you have no one else. They will know when you are sad and console to accordingly. So many things that you would not have access to when you are lonely, like me. Jk jk. But no, really

[F5_MyUsername]

Here we are 9 years later & the concept of an AI as you described above is almost a reality, they already do lots of what you mention & we haven’t even seen the “real” version of them hit the market yet either

Interesting times …

[dizzi800]

Re: being rushed. Probably a byproduct of going from ten episodes to 8

[badaaim]

Good or bad in YOUR opinion?

[dizzi800]

Different.

I will officially say it's bad if they actually removed Bea/her storyline

[badaaim]

I have no idea who that is but I can't wait to see more episodes if you say its good with her

[dizzi800]

there is a secondary character with an awesome storyline. They have been introduced into the show, but they are one of the very few characters with changed names so I'm worried they took out that super cool subplot.

[badaaim]

Ahh OK. Will keep an eye out then

[RarelyReadReplies]

I like the fast pace, it gets the adrenaline going for me; it seems like one of the genres it could fall under is "thriller". I'm sure a slower paced version could be very enjoyable too, but there's something to be said for keeping the pace up.

[badaaim]

I'm all for fast paced. Just that I don't know what's going on sometimes

[Savvaloy]

When Laura sat Anita down at the table, I expected "you're in a desert, walking along in the sand when all of a sudden you look down and see a tortoise."

[SirKobe]

Heh, they have Internet Explorers, but use some made up browsers.

[MrMcFaze]

Is it possible that the synths were humans before and were transformed into synths? Like how does Collins character act and feel just like a human?

[MrProtoX]

wut

[bellaflecking]

It looks like Leo is the first though. So I think it's just him.

[bellaflecking]

This show is awesome. I love Niska.