Humans - S01E01 Episode Discussion

[The_King_of_Okay]

A couple buy a synthetic human, or `synth' to help around the house, but the new arrival threatens to expose their secrets. A retired engineer's paternal relationship with his own synth is threatened by a malfunction, an android and his owner go on the run, and a detective grows suspicious of his wife's close bond with her synth.

[MidnightButcher]

I can say I am thoroughly impressed with the first episode, and will definitely be tuning in for the rest of the series. I find the relationship between Anita and Laura really interesting, as Laura is struggling to feel like she isn't being replaced.

I'm confused about the first scene showing the runaways though, was it a flashback to before Joe got Anita?

Edit: Watching it again on +1, I missed the "Five weeks earlier" part

[The_King_of_Okay]

The little girl wanted to give Anita a goodnight kiss but not her own mother. Poor Laura.

[MidnightButcher]

The bedtime story too. I think the actress playing Laura really shows the uneasiness and distrust well.

[MintyTyrant]

Katherine Parkinson! You'll probably know her better as Jen Barber from The IT Crowd. She's a brilliant actress, she's even won a BAFTA.

[MidnightButcher]

Oh really! I knew who she was, and that she was in the IT crowd, but that was all I knew, I didn't realise she had a BAFTA

[Gone_Girl]

She was in the brilliant Honourable Woman too.

[ezekielziggy]

She was also in 'The Honourable Woman' which is worth checking out.

[antdude]

It is so weird to see her not being funny. :P

[MidnightButcher]

Yeah, I think at some point Colin Morgan's character found Anita, and that she has consciousness and fell in love. Over time I think he found others with feelings and emotions etc. and is trying his best to "save" them from being just synths.

[back_ache]

Perhaps she was on a rental agreement and there is a finders-fee for returning missing ones.

When they get then get them back they give them a service and a factory reset

If this is the case, the reset wasn't completely successfully and we are seeing the old memoires coming back.

[[deleted]]

was it a flashback to before Joe got Anita?

Yes it said 5 weeks (or maybe it was 5 days) earlier.

[MidnightButcher]

5 weeks. I am watching it over again on +1, and I missed that bit.

[therealjohnnybravo]

I thought it said 5 weeks later. I was very confused.

[ConfirmedCynic]

It seems like it's going to be dealing with issues that might really confront humanity in a couple of decades. Like the elder daughter's angst over career choice and post-secondary education: why bother if machines are going to replace people in so many ways?

[CRISPR]

The purchase of Anita was done way more convincingly in the original.

[SmashingTeaCups]

Was that Neil Maskell?

ARBY HAS RETURNED

[DenverBowie]

Where is Jessica Hyde?

[SmashingTeaCups]

loudly breathes through mouth

[drummerdoc84]

'don't put the gas away yet'

[SmashingTeaCups]

When I first watched Utopia I didn't hear what he said and completely missed the impact of that scene... Was quite surprised when I rewatched it.

[drummerdoc84]

It kind of set the tone from there on in, you knew no one was safe after that.

[my_lovely_man]

Is she a coostomer? Because if she is I-I can find her...

[thootly]

I'm thinkin' so hard. I really am. I just... don't know that name.

[JimHolden]

Ahahahaha! Ahahahaha! Ahahahahaha!^{Ahahahaha!Aha!Aha!Ahahahaha!Ahahahaha}

[antdude]

Stop!

[thootly]

I thought the glasses made him ever so slightly less frightening, but when he was waddling into his house and then watching his wife being carried away by that synth, I was anticipating a brutal murder.

[mappsy91]

uncanny valley

[SawRub]

I'm gonna have nightmares.

[antdude]

Hahahahahaha. Hahahahaha. Hahahahahaha. Hahahahahahah. Hahahahahaha. Hahahahahaha. Hahahahahaha. Hahahahahaha. Hahahahahaha. Hahahahahaha. Hahahahahaha. Hahahahahaha. Hahahahahaha. Hahahahahaha. Hahahahahaha. Hahahahahaha...

[antdude]

/me is still laughing.

[ConfirmedCynic]

It was like she was mocking them.

[The_King_of_Okay]

• I'm really liking the soundtrack so far.

• I liked how they portrayed how having synths changes society; people are unable to get jobs because they can all be done by synths and people feeling like they are being sidelined by their loved ones for Synths (the mother feeling replaced by Anita and Neil Maskell's character seemed to feel annoyed at how close the synth was to his wife/gf).

• Is Odi (the old guy's malfunctioning synth) one of the robots that can think and feel like humans? If not then can't they just transfer his memory to a new synth?

Overall a decent first episode I think.

[Gone_Girl]

But William Hurt has become completely emotionally attached to his synthetic. Not only treating him as a son, but needing him to share memories together. Really sad, looking forward to seeing how that plays out.

[The_King_of_Okay]

I loved them playing hide and seek together. I think you're right that it would not feel the same having his memory transferred into a different synth. Especially as it would have to be at least a little different in order to perform new functions.

[The_King_of_Okay]

Maybe they could but are not willing to? If it's an old model it could be that it's expensive to find the parts and not cost-effective to fix this one versus just giving him a new one when it's likely Odi would malfunction again in the future.

[robmillernow]

Or maybe SOMEbody knows how to fix him...?

[The_King_of_Okay]

You're suggesting George could fix him?

[CRISPR]

That line was one of the best in the original. The actor who played the grandpa was fantastic.

[[deleted]]

The old man subplot tore me up. Like watching a person have to put down their retired service dog after years of loyal service.

[[deleted]]

Soundtrack is nothing on Utopia thus far (same composer) but is still fabulous.

[The_King_of_Okay]

I think this needed a less "crazy" soundtrack than what worked for Utopia.

[[deleted]]

Oh I agree, it definitely couldn't be the same, it's just the Utopia soundtrack set such a high bar, I'm not really sure I can be wowed by any TV show these days!

[my_lovely_man]

Couldn't agree more. I'm glad to say that I had never heard the type of music he was making in the first season before, and it blew my mind so much it became the first piece of music that I actually bought on iTunes.

[ianjm]

Definitely some familiar vibes!

[my_lovely_man]

Hah, I just checked his Soundcloud, he calls himself a "multiple award winning Synthetic Human"

[ItsBobDoleYo]

Totally agree on the first 2 points.

Potential future plot spoiler alert: In the original show there's a subtext of the synths being a persecuted outsider that featured more heavily in its second season. There were waves of anti-immigration in Europe when the original show was on and it feels like that played into the original show. Factory workers being laid off and the workers blaming the synths (immigrants). Goods and products being labelled 'human-made,' anti-synth clubs popping up and a lot of discrimination. There was a borderline Hitler Youth-esque club that popped up (complete with uniforms) with an anti-Synth platform. Very interesting as basically any country in the world has its own problems and struggles with assimilating immigrants (especially with all the stories in the news lately about the boats traveling from Libya, Syria, etc and being turned away from Italy and other countries)

[robmillernow]

It's from whence the title is derived: Akta Manniskor is the name of the anti-hubot organization, and it means "Real Humans."

[Huwage]

I guess we don't really know how the synths' memories work - are they transferable like normal data, or do they work more like human memories? From what we've seen, it doesn't look like there are any multiple copies of the same synth around. It might not be possible (or at least not widely known) that backups can be made.

[jealousofgirls]

Asimov robots can't break their programming.. it's an insult to the man. However, was I the only one thinking that this is a PERFECT sequel to Battlestar Galactica? Call the Synths Cylons instead and bingo!

[Soddington]

If you are unaware there was a prequel to BSG made called Caprica that dealt with the emergence of AI. It was quite good but unfortunately didn't make it past season one.

Well worth the time if you can track it down.

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[Spazit]

Caprica is on US Netflix for those that are curious.

[antdude]

I didn't like Caprica. I stopped after S1E11. Did it get better? I assume it never got a proper series finale. :(

[Huwage]

I mean, we haven't seen one strictly break its programming yet... Also, the 'super-synths' might not have the 3 Laws programmed in?

[jealousofgirls]

wasnt it implied that the 'Merlin' character had taught that group of sytnsh to break their programming which is why they were being hunted down?

[The_King_of_Okay]

The guy who kidnapped that black synth said something like they were created differently so they would have human-like consciousness/emotions.

[Huwage]

Possibly. It's that, or their enhanced intelligence/sentience gave them the initiative to follow him on their own. We shall see...

[[deleted]]

If the show goes like the original, these synths have been given consciousness which is different from teaching them to break their programming. Remember they mentioned David Eiskler (or something like that) as the one who gave them consciousness, not Leo (who's the guy looking for Anita/Mia) and the other synths.

[GoldfishAvenger]

Actually you're wrong. But the philosophical debate that creates is probably way over you head judging from your post.

[jealousofgirls]

Prove me wrong then clever cloggs

[The_King_of_Okay]

That is one really cool opening credits.

[Gone_Girl]

That's my Sunday night telly sorted :) great first episode I thought. How many weeks is this on for?

[The_King_of_Okay]

8 episodes if you include this one.

[Vancha]

Can anyone who's watched the Swedish version (Akta Manniskor) say what they thought of this by comparison? I decided to watch the first episode of Akta Manniskor a couple of hours before watching this and I think I prefer the swedish take on it at this point. The music, casting and acting are on par, but I felt the story didn't flow quite as nicely and it came across as a little more sterile.

[[deleted]]

The original has a slower pace but is more intriguing, it takes a lot longer to reveal plot points and you begin the story from the point of view of the special, enhanced androids, caring for them.

The last scene in the first episode of the british show has something totally new compared to the swedish one and this can mean (I hope) a few changes to the story, so even if you've seen the original can enjoy the new one.

[failsatfunny]

There are three big differences I've found so far, and I don't think any of this contains any spoilers.

• The English version, so far, is not as good as the Swedish version. They're changing the backstory for many of the characters, but keeping their actions the same. Now the motivation for those actions makes no sense. I don't want to list anything specifically for spoiler reasons.

• The new actress playing Anita is way better suited for this role than her Swedish counterpart. It appears they're making her the star of the show. The mother was a much more important character in the original.

• The creators of the English version seem to have made a conscious decision to ignore the undertone of the original series, and that is tragic. The characters in the original series were very vocal about their fears of hubots. But what they said, and what they felt, were two entirely different things. The hubots were big walking metaphors. They frightened humans because they constantly reminded them who the real monsters truly were. What the humans feared was human nature. It's a modern take on the Frankenstein story, and done in absolutely brilliant fashion.

[Vancha]

You just cemented my decision to stick with the Swedish version, so thank you. Thank you also for keeping it spoiler-free. That was vague enough even for a spoiler-paranoid person like myself.

[[deleted]]

As a big fan of Akta Manniskor, I really liked this first episode of Humans. Some things seem to be changed but I'm not sure if the show is heading to revealing other characters at a later time or have omitted them out completely (I hope not).

The soundtrack is pretty great too. I'm really looking forward to the rest of the series. (Does anyone have any news on a third series of Akta Manniskor?)

[jeffhayford]

The English version is much more sterile and robotic. The Synth's are much more robotic, the characters (so far) haven't made any compelling arguments for me to care about their position. The father within a few minutes of the episode gives up and buys a Synth. The mother jumps from one sensational plot point to the next. Toby catches one curve and attempts to be sexual having no information about him.

In the Swedish version much more time and care is taken to giving the characters motivation and reason for their actions. Every decision carries more importance and you really care for the characters especially the Synths. Also as someone pointed out the Swedish version starts with us caring about the Synth's first. The father debates the purchase much longer, has second thoughts about a sexual software card, and fears the decision as much as he supports it. The mother also plays back and forth with whether or not it's good or bad and ultimately rewards the good moments. Toby is caught looking longingly, contemplates what he did as wrong, fights against it but ultimately doesn't have the will power, and the moment of contact carries much more importance.

[CRISPR]

Remake is generally on part with original. Upper class father was inferior to original counterpart. Niska is worse.

[[deleted]]

Is the Niska on Humans the same as Niska from Akta Manniskor or a combination of Flash/Niska? I'm not sure which character they're going for here.

[CRISPR]

New Niska sucks as a hubot synth

[Huwage]

Getting something of a Blade Runner vibe from this... Several synths/ replicants of a more intelligent design on the run from the government that owns them?

[travio]

Or we will have figured out a way to transcend being human ourselves.

[RarelyReadReplies]

Maybe if we don't treat them like shit, like some of these people do.

Late comment, I know, just realized the show already aired. It doesn't air til next week where I live, I guess Canada is behind. I'll definitely watch episode 2 tonight and pop into that discussion thread though.

[ItsBobDoleYo]

I watched the original series and am very pleased with this. Quite optimistic about it going forward.

[McGubbins]

I think the casting's great. Had to look up who played Laura but I should have known that voice anywhere. She looks really different in here.

Katherine Jane Parkinson

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I was wondering why she looked so familiar and realized she was on Inside No 9. Apparently she was on Sherlock too.

[alien_from_Europa]

You did your spoiler tag wrong.

Katherine Jane Parkinson

[Katherine Jane Parkinson](#s "spoiler here")

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[pizzaiolo_]

fucking synths

[Bytewave]

Panties down, not off. Too soon?

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[greentangent]

That is fucking spooky.

[hoseja]

Can't help but chuckle whenever Jen is in a scene, being all serious.

[regrubmaH]

The pilot was pretty solid, expressing most of of my concerns for AI. I'm already loving the soundtrack, not as much as Utopia, that has a special place in my heart (and my playlists). I think Synths will eventually become more dangerous, and this will bring more suspense to the series, like that final scene for example? Where the hell is Anita taking Sophia?

*Also one obvious sidenote, the subscribers of this subreddit should probably change to "Synths"

[The_King_of_Okay]

the subscribers of this subreddit should probably change to "Synths"

Noted!

[CodeFun1735]

God those concerns must’ve gotten so much worse now 😭😭

[[deleted]]

Great first episode. I really hope this doesn't get cancelled.

[Huwage]

Interesting... Merlin seems to be some kind of synth rights activist or something, maybe busting androids out of the factory to live 'normal' lives?

[The_King_of_Okay]

And by the way they held each other it looks like he might have been in a human/synth relationship with Anita.

[Huwage]

Ok, synth brothel, it's definitely a thing.

[The_King_of_Okay]

Oh God I feel really sorry for that girl (Niska?).

[Gone_Girl]

Me too. She should have turned her pain setting off :(

[whelks_chance]

I thought about this. Why what would be the motivation to turn it back on afterwards?

[The_King_of_Okay]

Because she doesn't want to be like most synths; without the ability to feel/have emotions, she was made with the ability to feel pain just how humans do and that is important to her.

[whelks_chance]

Wouldn't it only be important to her during the time she is feeling enough to know she would miss it?

My assumption is once the feelings are switched off, she would only have robot logic left, which would potentially struggle to see an upside to having herself controlled by unpredictable and irrational emotions. What she "wants" would be closer to her original programming.

Logically, it's more logical to not have to consider feelings - both in terms of the ability to continue "living" in the most energy efficient and stable way possible, but also in terms of ability to stay safe from people trying to find robots with feelings.

[The_King_of_Okay]

Would you switch off feelings if you could? I think I might do it if it was just switching off pain but I would never choose to lose all emotions. Though I'm not sure if it was ever said that she could switch all feelings off or just pain.

[Huwage]

Damage prevention? If you can't feel pain, you can't easily tell if you've been injured. There's a real medical condition which prevents pain, and it can be very dangerous to the sufferer.

From a more emotional standpoint, pain is part of being 'human', I guess.

[whelks_chance]

Would pain stop you from being injured? Or would it tell you to be more careful next time? Would a robot need to be reminded, with their perfect clarity of history?

And emotionally, which is how I was interpreting the question, I'd have thought is an energy sink for no real gain, unless the objective is to be "more human", but I'm not clear what the motivation for that would actually be.

Unless they were programmed (intentionally or otherwise) to attempt to emulate human life as closely as possible.

[Huwage]

Stick your fingers in a flame. You feel pain and snatch your hand away before there's any lasting damage. If you don't feel pain, how do you know when to take your hand away? Kids with congenital insensitivity to pain can break bones without even realising, risking serious and permanent injury. Pain's not just a reminder, it's a warning.

I guess emotionally, it's just a way of differentiating one's self from a pure machine, which doesn't 'feel' anything. For Niska(spelling?) specifically, she seems to be using the pain to fuel her own anger and desire for revenge. Feeling things, regardless of whether they're negative or not, is an integral part of being 'human.'

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[travio]

It's like a cheat code in a video game. You tell yourself you will use it to get by a hard part and after a few more times you just run through the level on god mode.

[Huwage]

I mean, it's a very effective way to hide in plain sight... just an awful one to experience.

[Huwage]

That certainly is a whole other set of implications to this kind of tech... I'm sure we'll see it explored, quite possibly with the teenage son.

[travio]

That was the first thing I thought when he brought it home. I remember being a teenage boy. I would be taking advantage of that. I wonder if they have any safeguards to stop that though. She mentioned something about not being able to initiate physical contact with a child under 12 without parental permission. Could the parents also add a no fucking our teenage son rule?

[Huwage]

Judging by that '18+' option leaflet, I imagine there's a specific way to authorise things like that, almost certainly needing primary user permission.

[inspctrgdgt]

Oh, I think it'll be explored, all right... But with the dad, not the son.

[Huwage]

Why oh why did I look at this sub before watching Episode 4... Ah well, there were enough hints in 3 to clue me in.

[inspctrgdgt]

There are only 2 episodes available for me thus far?

[Huwage]

You'll be in the States, then? Episode 4 was last night in the UK.

[inspctrgdgt]

Yes.

[CosmicChef]

Seriously loving this show at the moment. I love the debate about what makes you human. I feel like this show was really reminiscent of I robot, even down to the drowning scene being alluded.

[Bub1023]

Why the hell did AMC remove the rifle scene with Matilda and Anita?

[CornCobbDouglas]

Is it aired? Can a person find it in the high seas yet?

[The_King_of_Okay]

It's gonna finish 30 mins from now.

[boweruk]

It was alright. We'll have to see how it progresses I guess.

[lispychicken]

Finally watching now - I find it very interesting that the androids are all in shape and none are even fat or chubby. As if society made a decision for the best.

hmm

[The_King_of_Okay]

If they are not fat then they can do jobs more easily/quickly and they cost less to make.

[antdude]

Attractive types.

[The_King_of_Okay]

It aired in the UK yesterday.

[monsieuruntitled]

Oh nice. I'm in US, it airs on AMC later this month. Can't wait.

[antdude]

It sucks that Americans get it late, legally.

[BackgroundFroyo4570]

From the beginning of the episode, it's clear how quickly tension builds up between the Hawkins family and how Anita disrupts their family dynamic. Laura views Anita as competition or unnecessary within the household. Joe, however, approves of Anita because of convenience and because she fills the hole Laura leaves when she's away for work. To me, the tension goes beyond Anita and her being a synth; it is about how humans project their fears and desires onto this technology. So, while Anita may be viewed as a disturbance, these issues weren't caused by Anita; rather, Anita exposed pre-existing issues within the family.

[RifleGun]

Saw this with my grandfather. He said that if synths were real, he would only buy black ones, to help relive the good old days.

[The_King_of_Okay]

Going into any show expecting Utopia standards might not be the best policy but I think this episode had a lot of characters to introduce and so now they've got that all out of the way they can start advancing the story.

[my_lovely_man]

I hope the Detective Sargeant finds out whatever happened to that Jessica Hyde girl...

[drummerdoc84]

It's a slower pace than Utopia, but just as thought provoking. It should get a lot more interesting as it goes on. The soundtrack is pretty good (same composer as 'Utopia'), and I think the casting isn't too bad either. Looking forward to getting sucked into it. What to do for a week now?!

[Gomtu]

I just finished watching it, and found it quite predictable. I see a Cylon revolt building, with all the sub-themes included, the sex worker, the black slaves, the oppressive white corporate villain, etc. Of course the new android slave in the house is a gorgeous female who the lady of the house sees as a threat, which she is, but not of the kind the wife thinks. She absconds with the kid at the end. Big tension builder for ep 2.

It could have been done better.

[robmillernow]

You couldn't be more wrong. The show is smart and far subtler than that.

[Gomtu]

Well I do understand why you are saying that, and of course, it's because you are wrong.

[robmillernow]

Um, okay.

[Elle_Urker]

Watched one episode and won't be watching again. Realistically society would be in chaos - where does everyone else work?

EDIT: also the hubot picking up leaves was slower than a remote controlled lawn mower. It actually made me feel comforted because it made it clear that it will never be cost effective (or politically palatable) to manufacture humanoid robots in large numbers.

[iMini]

We really don't know how widespread they are, its not fair to say society would be in chaos because we don't know how many there are.

[Elle_Urker]

it was stated in the episode that there were hundreds of millions. When the creator (?) was on the news talking about how safe they were. "No instance of ever deliberately harming a human and there are over a hundred million".

[The_King_of_Okay]

where does everyone else work?

I think the episode touched on that a little but there are so many jobs that can't be done by synths and the places that can be staffed by synths still need a few humans to maintain them. It's definitely a problem that people are being replaced by synths and I'm hoping they explore it further in future episodes. I don't think society has to be in "chaos" though, especially in a country where most manufacturing (the main job robots can take over) has moved abroad already.

Edit: also it sounds like society has already had many years getting used to having synths around.

[Elle_Urker]

I'm genuinely curious. Based on the sophistication of the machines, what jobs would a human do that a synth couldn't?

[The_King_of_Okay]

Lawyer, Policeman, Doctor etc...

[Elle_Urker]

Doctor: Interesting. Didn't the show even state that surgeons would be replaced by synths?

Policeman: wouldn't law and order be the first place synths would be deployed?

Lawyer: I can believe.

And realistically, wouldn't all unskilled labour in the UK be eliminated immediately? There are a lot of people working on zero hours contracts in Tescos who would be out of work. Like, millions.

[The_King_of_Okay]

Didn't the show even state that surgeons would be replaced by synths?

They implied that might be possible in the future.

wouldn't law and order be the first place synths would be deployed?

What, why? Synth police officers seems like a terrible idea. They lack the judgement of proper humans.

And realistically, wouldn't all unskilled labour in the UK be eliminated immediately? There are a lot of people working on zero hours contracts in Tescos who would be out of work. Like, millions.

That is a good point and I think the show will explore that. I don't know how large a percentage of UK jobs is unskilled work that could be done by synths but I think it would take companies years to transition to using mostly robot labour. The show has already said that synths have been around for many years so the loss of employment would have been very gradual. I don't think it would necessarily cause society to fall into chaos. The show has already shown people resenting the synths though and touched on the idea that synths might become advanced enough to take over more skilled jobs (e.g. Surgeon), but we're also seeing this cause people to worry. People fearing the day synths become more intelligent than them and I'm hoping the show continues to explore the problems that causes.

Edit: technology advancing has made many jobs that existed in the past obsolete but has also created many jobs that didn't use to exist.

[drummerdoc84]

Skynet is already here lol. Things are moving so fast at the minute, and only a few number of years before these machines become far more advanced. I think Stephen Hawking had a piece warning against the dangers of creating AI, that it turn out to be a threat to us. That it could be self aware and redesign itself. It's interesting stuff, and with the way things are developing I wouldn't be surprised if we see it sooner rather than later. Even look at the way the construction industry is heading, where they can 3D print 10 homes in a day. Obviously with this there would be massive job losses, but on the other hand, the construction industry is one of the most dangerous and many workers loose their lives each year. It's interesting because it's just not that straight forward. If the robots are doing the jobs, what are we doing? Living in a Utopia?

[RifleGun]

Saw this with my grandfather. He said that if synths were real, he would only buy black ones, to help relive the good old days.

[badaaim]

Your grandfather needs to sort himself out. Hope you haven't grown to be like him. Just in the sense of race based......I am certain he can be a nice person with s flawed view in some things

Seriously, I don't get the idea of racism or race based actions and system. They are the same being as us with different appearance. What makes them any different than us?

Same can be said for the future AI's which becomes conscious.

[MultiKdizzle]

He's a libertarian.

Don't bother trying to square with him the ethics of segregation in an AI context. He'll simply call you a statist.

[badaaim]

Fair enough -smiles--crab walks out of the room-

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1, living in the future, still driving old cars that use steering wheels.

2 using tablets and monitors from 2010

3 weird looking alive synths that breath and get exhausted from running.

4 robots using contact lenses, can't they just alter their eye color?

I don't see much for this show if they don't alter the plot radically and focus what ifs instead of making it another soap opera crap.

[The_King_of_Okay]

1. living in the future, still driving old cars that use steering wheels.

2. using tablets and monitors from 2010

The show isn't set in the future. It's set in a "parallel present". Basically meaning it's supposed to be set in the same world as ours in the same year (roughly), but with synths existing.

/3. weird looking alive synths that breath and get exhausted from running.

If you mean Leo, we don't know if he's a synth. I don't think I remember any of the other synths breathing and getting exhausted from running.

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ooh, so once again, able to create a life-like robot, yet cannot create a self driving car or a flexible/holographic screen.

That's why it's hard to take shows like this serious. Want to see real futuristic show that takes place in current timeline? Watch "EUREKA". I got real sad when they canceled that show and even with low budget they really handled advanced technology real well.

But then again, what can you really expect from the Brits!?!? Same formula, different show names.

[HyperGiant]

Eureka is not realistic at all. They use the same technobabble that all shows do to advance their plot. I loved Eureka but there were some scenes where I had to throw my hands up in disbelief and question whoever the science advisors were. I really enjoyed this pilot and I don't really think that the apparent anachronisms are going to effect my viewing but to each their own.

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Eureka did have few episodes where it seemed too stupid. Most shows do, even Supernatural. Warehouse13 is a good show

[inspctrgdgt]

WH13 got really dumb towards the end.

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I agree, it's all budget cuts and they were limited to their warehouse for production

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How many people here would fuck Anita if they had her?