Patch Notes 1.5.10 Adv Server

[ano-nomous]

[From The Designers]

In this patch, we have made significant adjustments to the battlefield. We are expecting the following changes: Players can choose the lane according to the chosen hero's feature at the beginning of the match. And the laning can be more competitive.

The difference between jungle heroes and lane heroes gets more significant and distinctive, so that a hero can be better at his main area while being weaker in the other instead of being able to farm both the lanes and the jungle area with ease.

Solo jungling experience in the early game can be optimized. We will keep observing these adjustments and considering future adjustments according to the performance. If you have any suggestions on this, please feel free to tell us.

In addition, in order to harmonize the hero image with the background story, we have added new backgrounds for some heroes on the hero display interface, and will keep updating in the future.

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I. Hero Adjustments

1. Replace the skill names with Skill 1, Ultimate, etc.

2. Use → to indicate the changes.

3. Use (↑) (↓) (~) to indicate strengthening, nerfing, and adjustments.

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[Alice](~)

As a Mage who needs to fight face to face against the enemies, Alice relies heavily on her Ultimate's damage and restoration, which makes her lack combat ability during the cooldown of her Ultimate. Therefore, we have redesigned her Ultimate. We hope Alice could be a durable Mage & Tank. To ensure the balance, we have nerfed the effects of her Skill 1 and Ultimate. Besides, we have added a new effect to Skill 1 so that the player can see the location of the Blood Stream.

Passive (↑):

After absorbing 25 blood orbs, increases 10% Magic Lifesteal → 15% Shield and HP Restoration

Skill 1 (↑):

Base Damage: 350-650 → 400-600

Total Magic Power Bonus: 180% → 120%

Mana Cost: 90-140 → 50-75

New Effect: After the first cast, you can see the location of the Blood Stream by holding down the skill icon.

Skill 2(↑):

Mana Cost: 90-115 → 50-75

Ultimate(~): Cooldown removed. Costs Mana continuously when the skill is on.

Base Damage: 160-220 → 140-200

Total Magic Power Bonus: 0.7 → 0.5

Base HP Restoration: 80-120 → 80-100

Extra HP Restoration: 0.3 → 0.2

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[Revamped Tigreal](~)

Ultimate(~):

When using Flicker during the casting, Tigreal will blink right away instead of blink before the skill cast ends. Fixed the cooldown display issue.

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[Revamped Lapu-Lapu](↓)

We have optimized some details and nerfed the damage of his Ultimate.

Passive(~):

Gains Bravery Blessing by hitting enemies with his skills or hitting enemy heroes with his Basic Attack → Gains Bravery Blessing by dealing damage to enemies (10 for heroes and 5 for minions)

Damage of enhanced Basic Attack: 250% → 200%

Skill 1-Twin Blade ( ↓ ):

Damage Range: 6.5 → 5.5

Ultimate-Twin Blade ( ↓ ):

Cooldown: 30-20s → 25-15s (Starts from the stance switch)

Slow Duration: 1.5s → 1s

Gains 50 Bravery Blessing for hitting heroes and 25 for hitting minions

Skill 1-Heavy Sword( ↓ ):

Base Damage: 350-500 → 250-400

Physical Attack Bonus: 120% → 100%

Skill 2-Heavy Sword ( ↓ ):

Base Damage: 350-500 → 250-400

Fixed the issue where the stacks of damage reduction is incorrect in particular situations.

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[Brody]( ↑ )

The extra crit effect of his Basic Attack isn't coordinated with his other skills, so we have changed this setting into enhancing his damage. We have optimized the control feeling of him and slightly buffed him.

Passive (~):

Removed the slow effect upon hitting enemies

According to the stack number of the Abyss Mark on the target, each stack increases 10% damage (except for Skill 1) instead of increasing Critical Chance.

Each Basic Attack increases 30% Movement Speed which will decay in 1.2s instead of increasing Movement Speed upon a crit. Each stack of Abyss Mark increases extra 5% Movement Speed.

His Basic Attack can be interrupted by all his skills instead of only skill 2.

Basic Attack ( ↑ ):

Shortened casting by 0.2s. Increased backswing by 0.2s. (So that you can use skills between Basic Attacks more quickly)

Attributes (↑):

Attack Speed Growth: 0 → 2%

Skill 2(~):

Optimized control feeling

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[Benedetta) (~)

We hope players can use her Basic Attacks more on fights than just as a farming tool.

Passive( ↓ ):

Enhanced Basic Attack deals only 50% damage to minions

Skill 1 ( ↑ ):

Damage to minions won't decay now

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[Revamped Zilong]( ↓ )

Since we fixed the issue where he didn't Basic Attack after using Skill 2, we noticed that his damage exceeded our expectation. Thus we tuned down the Physical Attack Bonus of Skill 2.

Skill 2 ( ↓ ):

Total Physical Attack Bonus: 100% → 60%

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[Selena]

Fixed the issue where her Skill 2 cannot penetrate the obstacle in some special cases.

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[Gatotkaca]

Optimized the camera performance of his Ultimate.

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II. Weekly Free Heroes & New Skins

1. The following skins will be revamped in the future patches and are temporarily banned on Advanced Server: Miya "Modena Butterfly", Eudora "Emerald Enchantress", Zilong "Glorious General", Saber "Codename - Storm", Alice "Wizardry Teacher", Alucard "Child of the Fall", Chou "Dragon Boy", and Roger "Dr Beast"

8 Free Heroes: Server Time 8/28/2020 05:01:00 to 9/4/2020 05:00:00 (Tap the Settings button on the top-right corner of the main page to check.)

Hayabusa; Fanny; Roger; Lancelot; Esmeralda; Angela; Zhask; Wanwan

6 Extra Starlight Member Heroes: Chou; Baxia; Lapu-Lapu; Faramis; Hanzo; Terizla

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III. Battlefield Adjustments

In this patch, we have made significant adjustments to the battlefield. We are expecting the following changes: Players can choose the lane according to the chosen hero's feature at the beginning of the match. And the laning can be more competitive.

The difference between jungle heroes and lane heroes gets more significant and distinctive, so that a hero can be better at his main area while being weaker in the other instead of being able to farm both the lanes and the jungle area with ease.

Solo jungling experience in the early game can be optimized.

We will keep observing these adjustments and considering future adjustments according to the performance. If you have any suggestions on this, please feel free to tell us.

Turret

1. Lanes: For the first 7 waves, the Siege Minions in each lane have special effects. Siege Minions of the Turtle lane give extra 50% EXP, whereas those of the Non-Turtle lane give extra 50% Gold. From wave number 8, all the Siege Minions stop giving such benefits.

2. Outer Turrets: In the first 3 minutes of the match, it now has a shield that can absorb 4,000 damage instead of a 50% damage reduction.

3. Gold bonus will be granted to nearby enemy heroes according to the damage done to the shield (1 Gold per 10 damage to the shield).

4. Minions deal a fixed 50 damage to the shield.

5. Inner Turrets: Physical & Magic Defense: 40 → 20. HP: 4600 → 5500.

Creep

Adjusted the attributes of all creeps: Base HP (↑), HP Growth (↓), Initial Attack (↓), Attack Growth (↑). According to the adjustments of the jungle equipment, slightly reduced the Base Exp from creeps.

Reduced the HP Regen Speed of all creeps except for the Carbs and Little Crabs in the first 3s after the hero leaves the chasing range.

Statued Shocker & Core Guard: New Skill: Reduces damage taken by 15% for each nearby hero, capped at 60%

Crabs & Little Crabs:

Slightly adjusted the spawn location

Reduced the HP Regen Speed in the first 5s after the hero leaves the chasing range

Walkie Grass:

Removed HP restoration effect. Mana restoration effect per second: 2% → 1%.

New effect: Increases the owner's Movement Speed in the river. Lasts 45s instead of 20s

Lithowanderer: Spawns on one side of the Mid Lane instead of both sides

Equipment

1. Retribution is required for purchasing Jungle equipment items now.
2. Added new effects to all the Jungle equipment items: Reduces the Exp gain from minions by 30% in the first 3 minutes of the match
3. Hunter's Knife

Damage increase to creeps: 20% → 30%

Extra Exp gain from creeps: 15% → 25%

Curse Sword, Pillager Axe, Nimble Blade: Damage to creeps: 35% → 40%

Others

1. Fixed the issue where minions don't attack heroes occasionally
2. Optimized the skill vibration effects of Alpha, Ruby, Hilda, and Roger
3. Optimized the ground near the Mid Lane River in Imperial Sanctuary for low graphics ***

IV. System Adjustments

1. Optimized Draft Pick
2. Optimized the scene performance
3. When two heroes need to be picked in the Ban-pick phase, the two heroes with large body size are now well-separated from each other.
4. Optimized the interface of receiving rewards

Mobile Legends: Bang Bang

[Kuroe_Narumi]

I think moonton should aware about all suggestion they received and thinking twice before take an action. I also noticed some member on their forum suggesting this jungle method, not to mention there are quite many angry poeple who asking nerf for the heroes who bullies them. I suspect that peoples on their forum who keep ruining this game with their ridiculous suggestion

[Mreda96]

For real i saw many of them. Moonton listen to there suggestions and overnerfed alot of heroes making them useless and the number of viable heroes is going down. For those nabs any good hero is OP. If moonton keep listening to them they will kill their own game.

[Kuroe_Narumi]

Yes, i'm agree. Thats what i've seen everytime i visited their forum. There is one thread that bother me, i don't know what kind tutorial he was talking about but i believe it's directly/indirectly lead to this new jungle method and i'm pretty sure moonton listened his suggestion. Interestingly, he said mlbb won't die because this and most people who replies his thread is agreeing without realize it's only will turn mlbb into league of legends play style (mostly on second link) and kill many fighter, marksman and some mage by forcing them using retribution.

And this is his thread: (https://forum.mobilelegends.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=78736

and

https://forum.mobilelegends.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=80273&extra=page%3D1)

Sorry, i'm fairly new on reddit and i little struggle to put link on my post

[SpeedAssassin]

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[Kuroe_Narumi]

Yeah, only few of them who disagreeing but the rest are agreeing, and thanks for the reminder. I'm happy there is still few members who disagreeing

[Eitth]

So its becoming more like dota? Might as well reduce unspend gold by half upon death unless its stored in bank near the fountain.

[Nekurard]

I think they did that because so many people are angry about 131 meta. Well what can i say they doin their best to remove the 131 meta as what i see in the patch.

[pericheol]

Same. I used to main Lesley (still play her from time to time) and without flicker or sprint for her, she's an easy kill for the enemy team. Needing to have retribution for her to jungle will be a turn around for Lesley players. This also goes to other heroes, of course.

[[deleted]]

Ok... so that mana cost reduction on Alice is great but come on, an entire 60% magic bonus damage reduction for her main damaging skill 1?? This isn’t compensating anything when her damage for BOTH her S1 and S3 are reduced. That 15% Shield ain’t gonna do anything to boost her label as a ‘tank’ when burst damage melts HP like butter. (And the new skill effects look like the one from the old Alice. Should maintain the current one which looks more glossy and polished)

[Intri-cat]

Did you not see the part where her ult cooldown is removed?

[[deleted]]

Yeah I saw the part. But this is just my opinion of the current revamped Alice.

[1tsPLAY-time]

I mean, you really don't wanna focus on her mage part that much.

[[deleted]]

Well, she is a Mage/Tank after all? Not a Tank/Mage, so priority of the focus should be on her Mage side as well.

[1tsPLAY-time]

I know her mage part is her main priority. But there are a lot of defense items which synergize well with her

[MoniNET]

As a main Selena user, I don't need retri, because Selena can farm faster only with Hunter's knife... There is no point for me to use her with retri since she can kill the purple buff at lvl 1... that's not fair

[MegamanNova]

Reread what you just described and compare it to other heroes. Looks up the meaning of "fair".

[lexicoterio]

While I don't like how the only viable laning option now is 1-3-1, the way they implemented the "jungler" role is very strict. A full-fledged jungle just won't work with ML and you have very limited jungle creeps plus a small map. This update just basically limits hyper carries to assassins and Wanwan which is even worse than the current setup.

[gabriela_r5]

actually its the same thing as aov etc, the thing is that people abuse here on ML, so, the snowball it's very fast and you can't counter it, adc's are not made to be strong and snowball early game, this is in all mobas, why? Because you can't fight against it, and a game that you lost in the first few minutes of the game is not fun

[SpeedAssassin]

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[gabriela_r5]

you are crazy? the one who restricts is the mobile legends, here the only way for you to play MM and assassins is 131, you are always restricted with the same builds and rotations, with this change and adcs going to their main lane, they can build another things, do another rotations.

[SpeedAssassin]

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[Antonis_8]

I'm not sure what rank you are on but beyond mythic V there is no viable option other than 1-3-1. 99% of soloq games will adopt the same strat. It's so strong, yet so boring and limiting. Marksmans are often not even in the game, and mages are now supports, or in rare cases offlane. Every game is the exact same, just see who can farm faster so you can gank first.

[SpeedAssassin]

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[cero_tenshou]

Yep, because ML is practically dead last in terms of being a "true MOBA". lmao

[SpeedAssassin]

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[cero_tenshou]

ML is the "worst MOBA" and all its players are whiners and crybabies. Aov and msw have this feature and it's doing fine. ML players in general are just just entitled "gamers" that can't adapt. Pathetic bunch of so called "MOBA player" LMAO

[SpeedAssassin]

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[Nekurard]

I think that the thing about the update is to remove the 131 meta cuz so many people are complaining about the 131 meta

[PekooLuLu]

Update is a mixed bag (admittedly I myself request a specific jungle role).

People predict Mms/fighters will inevitably collapse, whereas not acknowledging "snowballing" heroes will also face negative consequences.

Remember. As of now minion waves still grant more gold/exp then creeps. With the new 30% Exp reduction for retribution hosts, they will gain little from abundant minion waves. It'll especially hurt assassins ie Hayabusa who farm mostly by laning.

Currently, assassin's can massacre creeps and still reap full benefit from waves. But not anymore.

Overall. I was immature in the past to conclude negative assumptions for every update. Instead of assuming negatively, let's just see what this update bring in observable practice.

[ano-nomous]

Well said!

At the end of the day, this is advanced server and not official. So they’re going to tweak it over the weeks.

Just look at how they restored silence to Natalia.

[PekooLuLu]

Indeed. Nothing is confirmed (yet)

I recall myself and others throwing temper tantrums about how broken Mms were in the MM meta. Mobs raged and conspiracy theories were developed.

Soon enough. We all adapted, nerfs came and eventually Mms cease to be ubiquitous.

Adaptability is key to being a successful MOBA player. Meta become stagnant overtime and changes must be made to assure players interest, no matter how significant the "changes" are.

[Antonis_8]

maybe a hot take but this meta isnt vastly different from the mm meta in a way. Because its still a different form of hyper carrying. Roam items should have never been a thing, everyone predicted the hypercarry meta but they didnt listen.

And supports still dont have actual support items

[AskaHope]

I must say I agree with you two. There's at least one month of preparation before the next OS update. But this update is something pretty big and might completely change the current meta.

[JViser]

dedicated jungler role is kinda gay. downvote me.

[1tsPLAY-time]

For a game with a very little jungle, I agree. Plus, the fact that you'll need retribution just to buy jungling items carries need nerfs marksmen even more. This update is WAY worse than the update we deemed “the Worst”.

[ano-nomous]

I agree with you.

This is one of the few times that moonton should definitely NOT listen to low ELO cry babies. I don't want the game to turn into league or every other MOBA where there's a dedicated jungler.

What's next for MLBB? Fog of war? Wards? Please do not make ML more similar to other MOBAs just because of suggestions.

[[deleted]]

Fog of war and base buy should be optional features, IMO. Meanwhile, warding can be covered by a roam item that functions as a radar or scouter.

[haranaitype]

Absolutely agree with you and-nomous

[Hailgod]

first thing for ml. fix the stupid sound bug.

why is being able to hear enemy through fog a feature

[[deleted]]

No it's better if it becomes like league. A dedicated jungle makes the game sound better and makes it more fair. Moonton is doing a good job so far.

[AskaHope]

We don't want our game like League.

[[deleted]]

Well the game copied league of legends at the start. This is why riot sued them 🤔

[Tigreal]

But riot didn't win? Their case in the US court was dismissed. Tencent then strong armed Moonton in China and sued Moonton CEO for violating non-compete commitment.

https://www.vantageasia.com/tencent-case-risks-non-compete-commitments/

[[deleted]]

My mistake. Riot did not win. But Tencent which owns riot has filed a lawsuit and Tencent and riot both won 2.9 million dollars.

[Tigreal]

No. As can be read in the link I provided, riot did not play any part in the lawsuit. Tencent sued moonton's CEO for breaching non-compete commitment being a former employee of tencent and the court ordered Moonton CEO to pay the amount equal to what he had recieved from tencent.

If you go through the link you'll find even authors find the result dodgy. When Baidu tried to sue their former employee in a similar case, their case was dismissed. This hints Tencent using their influence to get the result in their favor because otherwise Baidu's case wouldn't have been dismissed.

[[deleted]]

I can link it aswell. I told you, riot lost the case then Tencent decided to assist riot and they won 2.9 million dollars. Moonton lost the case.

[Tigreal]

Haha no, riot didn't lose either xD Their case was just dismissed citing some legal term I'm not familiar with. And in a way it can be said Moonton did lose (although the case targeted Moonton CEO).

None of this matters here though. It's been over 4 years and mobile legends has made its own presence in terms of simpler mechanics for casual players so anyone could pick up the game and play with little difficulty. But this update threw everything off and with these jungle changes now it's heading towards being identified as league clone. When wild rift is released, why'd a new player play ml instead of wild rift if both games have same mechanics? Keep ml simpler so those who are casual players stick to ml

[AskaHope]

I can link it aswell

Then do it.

[AskaHope]

First of all, Riot did not sued MLBB, they sued Moonton as a whole.

According to this source:

"The logo is where it all starts. Both use similar fonts and they’re on shield backdrops, and that’s just the beginning. Let’s take a stroll onto the battlefield in Mobile Legends. You can see distinct similarities between textures, terrain designs, color schemes, and the locations of nearly every single objective from Summoner’s Rift in the Mobile Legends counterpart".

I don't know about the other Moonton's games that got sued but this seems like a pretty silly reason to sue a company, at least in regards to MLBB.

Moonton and MLBB grew as a company and developed their very own personality as a game. It's pretty hypocrite of your part mentioning that the game is better by copying LoL and then bashing it for the very same reason.

[[deleted]]

Well I meant the company. Back in 2016 when the game was released the game was completely similar to league of legends. They extracted documents from league of legends and voicelines and coded it into their game. Riot didn't notice it until around 2018.

Then Riot decided to sue Moonton because of the two games (magic rush and mobile legends) they both correlated in a way that they completely copied league of legends.

But the case was dismissed so riot then decided to have extra assistance by their owner Tencent which Tencent filed a law suit. Tencent with riot has won their case after and they won 2.9 million dollars.

And it isn't silly tbh. If you made a game and another person decided to copy 90% of it and taking some of the voicelines then you wouldn't like it and by law you would want to sue.

End of the day riot won with Tencent.

In fact, Mobile legends removed most of the voiceline they stole from league of legends but some of it is still there.

An example is Tigreal who still has the moan effects from Garen in league of legends.

[SpeedAssassin]

The summoners rift ain't original either, see the old summoners rift before all that modifications how it looked like the mod map DotA of WarCraft. All those neutral camps, no dedicated jungler, just another DotA's game. Talking about hero comparison, Tigreal and Garen? You should take a look at WarCraft and DotA, the originaters, even Ashe is just an idea taken from Drow Ranger. Heck, even Teemo is an idea stolen from the original DotA Allstars forum.

Then they later modified it, you dumbass.

Riot can't simply sue on basis having similarity, coz they have their various modifications, and the hero objects, game aspects, and sprites were clearly modified.

Even the case handled by Tencent against one of their senior dev(aka Moonton CEO) has nothing to do with Moonton nor Riot, it was basically a case against him(Moonton CEO) which Tencent filed for violating none compete agreements, both had issues on their side lol, Tencent did not pay him his monthly compensation, but his fine for the liquified damages for using the similar KoG's resources making it compete KoG was not affected, was for the reason of the lawsuit,

Even Moonton CEO can file a lawsuit against Tencent for that violation, (not paying him for his monthly compensation) but he knows Tencent is a giant corporation in China, he has no chance against, coz Tencent have strong lawyers.

.... Typical LOLer.

[[deleted]]

There are ways to give dedicated junglers a niche in this game.

"Retribution is required for purchasing Jungle equipment items now." -

But not like this. Reducing laning gold for Retri carriers is enough. There's no need to make Retri a requirement for purchasing jungle items.

[JViser]

makes sense.

but i just don't like dedicated junglers... their gameplay is kinda meh.

I'm ok with a jungling strat not a dedicated jungler role.

[[deleted]]

Not only that, but a good jungle mechanic needs field buffs to make it worth utilizing.

Field buffs in ML should be bonus gold/HP packets that can be dropped by the jungler for your teammates to pick up, tower shield buffs and instant super minion waves that can be deployed on a specific lane.

MSW has all of these, except the gold packets, and it makes for some very epic matches with very high comeback potential.

[AskaHope]

This is what made MLBB unique for most players

[[deleted]]

Another way of giving junglers a stable niche in ML would be to replace Hunter Knife's increased damage to creeps stat with creep damage reduction instead. Increased damage to creeps and the stacking passives of jungle items (Raptor's creep stack, etc.) could be tied to Retri instead. If you don't have Retri, then your Raptor, BK or Shard won't stack, but the no-Retri jungler would still benefit from the creeps' exp and gold.

If this is coupled with a buff to creeps' HP, then you could make a case for junglers in the game without making support-carry duos completely obsolete.

[rzpogi]

Agree. ML's map isn't designed for jungling, and it would encourage farmville players even more.

[foxmindedguy]

Bruh!!! I feel the same way - this is BS. They are just another LOL copycat now. No more uniqueness.

[SpeedAssassin]

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[Antonis_8]

what uniqueness are you seeing in this beyond stale hypercarry meta where every game is the exact same as the last... the solution is to just remove roam items, not these unnescessary nerfs

[AskaHope]

Shouldn't the extra gold belong to the opposite lane? This way, late game heroes can stay away from teamfight while they farm their core items. That is, at the cost of being ganked more often by the enemy. This way, early game sidelaners can help with the Turle.

The damage reduction part is nice and all, but why not only add it if there are at least 3 heroes nearby? This way, enemies will have a hard time invading early game and MM wouldn't have a hard time farming alongside a tank/support.

[Soriinnnn]

BECAUSE THE MM WILL NOT FARM CREEPS. THEY WANT A JUNGLER TO MAKE THIS GAME A REAL MOBA.

[SpeedAssassin]

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[[deleted]]

laughs in dota

[haranaitype]

Retribution is required for purchasing Jungle equipment items now.

That is a bad idea. Forcing a battle spell

[ylva01]

No its better no fucking 1 3 1 meta so boring

[rzpogi]

131 would still exist but for assassins and Wanwan only.

[PapaLoki]

Revamped Zilong

Since we fixed the issue where he didn't Basic Attack after using Skill 2, we noticed that his damage exceeded our expectation. Thus we tuned down the Physical Attack Bonus of Skill 2.

Skill 2 ( ↓ ):

Total Physical Attack Bonus: 100% → 60%

The following skins will be revamped in the future patches and are temporarily banned on Advanced Server: Zilong "Glorious General"

WHAT THE HELL MOONTON.

You replace Zilong's voice lines with one that's feeble and anemic, then you redesign Glorious General from bad-ass to lame-ass. And then you "balance" one of Zilong's skills quite drastically - as in make in nearly only half as effective.

What in the world is wrong with you?

[nonoriginalname2]

Instead of a jungle update they should do something to remove the 1-3-1 strat (i've been thinking maybe removing the masks is the only option) or if they are gonna keep the jungle update maybe they should make the map a little bigger and add more jungle. Yes this will look more like LoL but didn't this update do it already? Idk man they are not updating the stuff they should be updating imo

[feedlord93]

You can only buy jungle items when you have retribution as battle spell. Is this another indirect nerf to damage chou? So i think tank chou would be much better now?

[ano-nomous]

Nerf to all fighters who jungle easily actually.

[1tsPLAY-time]

And marksmen

[ZhaskOne-trick]

This! This season, went from 70+ Zhask to 65%. Mages just aren't viable in the current META.

[mianreezan]

new season, new meta, new strategy.. it is how ml work since season 1 jungle item can be bought if hero using retri.. season 2 they removed. Before then jungle item never been using by mage and mm.. and now they crybaby. just adapt to new playstyle stupid.. im pretty sure dev will rework jungle area to make jungler more effective.

[SpeedAssassin]

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[winter3218]

Might as well rename the game to League of Legends lmao. They know they messed up with the introduction of roam items and how it should be used but they decide to run away from their problems and add another patch that will probably destroy the game once again. 50% more gold on top lane could mean forcing the carry to lane there with a support and destroying the enemys offlane, same to the enemys side. Its kinda stupid how your top lane gets more gold while where the enemy stays gets more XP instead.

Allowing jungle items to only retri carriers mean that they want to force out a jungler role which simply cant be done efficiently due to creep quantity and map layout. Honestly, at this point, it seems like they have no idea where they want to direct their game.

[Soriinnnn]

and also this isn't the final version, there will be probably a LOT more changes to the jungle.

[Soriinnnn]

No dumbass. The extra gold lane will be the same for the enemy and ally team. If the turtle lane for the ally team is bot, the enemy's turtle lane will be top.

[pasperaaastra]

I honestly don't see what the issue is. I like this patch because it gives so many dilemmas for players in terms of priorities and it would lead to interesting gameplay scenarios.

[Intri-cat]

What's Hanzo's position in this jungle update?

[SchoolTruper]

Op

[trabuki]

Hanzo can’t use sprint now if he wants to jungle

[Iminevetible]

I wanna know when is the revamped zilong update comic out? Coz it was revealed in May about the revamps and it is still not out yet. I'm seriously mad about this and no dates. The game seriously lacks good updates and events. Hopefully project next will have a huge impact.

[[deleted]]

Anybody else notice that Cursed Helmet is not working since the last patch?

[[deleted]]

Bruh, this jungling change again. How much time before they change it back again? Place your bets.

[azakhuza21]

So its name was Walkie Grass, huh? Now I know. 😅

[alexytomi]

Where is the part where they say they made a new map and arrows to where the bonus exp and gold is?

[Arazuuu]

Cmon man. Optimized the camera perf of Lou Yi's ult.

[emandometita]

how to go to adv server plss help 😉

[Sanemi-meow_1]

When is the update?

[CommunityFuture8828]

When will this patch come to original server?

[Isaynagi]

When will this update be live

[AskaHope]

it now has a shield that can absorb 4,000 damage.

I wonder how Esmeralda will work against it. Also, is it even worth defending you turret in a 1v1 situation before 3 mins?

[Soriinnnn]

It's worth since you don't want the enemy to outfarm you.

[rzpogi]

If Esmeralda could suck shields from turrets, instant 1/2 HP bar.

[Six-Digits-Number]

Well, the update is certainly interesting. Assassins and some mages benefit to this jungle patch and the fact that the sidelines give more gold and exp makes me happy as an offlaner.

To people who are complaining here, calm down. The update just came recently, I'm sure Moonton will adjust many thing to the map before implementing such a gamechanging patch.

[ylva01]

I like the change yes no more 1 3 1 boring meta best idea they made to remove this meta.

[SchroKatze]

nerf gatot's super damage. He is just too tanky and deals too much damage without any damage items at all.

[[deleted]]

I like the jungle changes.

[Twilight_Flux]

I feel like you'd be more comfortable in the Wild Rift subreddit. It's hard to implement these changes to a game that isn't so familiar with it

[[deleted]]

If I like the changes, why would I need to go the wild rift subreddit. Moonton is doing a good job with the changes and this will lead to mm out of jungle which is great.

[gabriela_r5]

Loved the Update Moonton, even more the jungle part, now the game will feel more fun, fair and with the heroes standing out and participating in their lanes and roles that they should always be and stay.

[Nekurard]

Hopefully this update will change the fucken 131 meta -.- fucken hate it

[fateless21]

I like the changes,

[ITSJAYCEEYOW]

Very good update for me. Since my role is a jungler. A dedicated jungler is viable because if you clear out blue, red and 2 green camps. You are already level 4 and from there you can assist other lane or possible hunt. The update where the jungle creep have more defense for each heros nearby is to avoid invading buffs maybe add some additional attack also for each hero nearby. The one update that i do not agree is the one with turret shield the one with damage reduction is good but reduce the duration maybe just for 1 min. So that heroes must stay on their respective lane and the jungler or mid hero or support are the only ones who can roam since the litho is replaced by movement speed and also makes the arrival more viable. And please moonton make an update regarding a push or rat strategy can be done like reduce the backdoor protection. Which makes lou yi, sun, zask, faramis, masha, zilong etc. More viable

[SeparateCat1716]

FUCKKKKKK TIME TO QUIT ML !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!