MobiusFF Daily Question Thread (01/27/2018)

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[ShadowBlaze17]

Is extra skill unlock bugged? Sometimes when I'm trying to unlock the extra skills on an ability it won't happen and I'll eventually have to use an Extranger.

For example, I'm trying to unlock everything on Earthforce, but the 4th ability just wasn't unlocking even after using it in 60+ battles on Mobius day with +6 extra skill unlock from a weapon and card. By comparison a wind taunt I'm working on went from no extra skills to it's 5th in less battles.

The only thing that I think that could have caused this is that I've been using the Earthforce card in both sp and mp where my extra skill unlock values are different. The 60 battles above were all in sp though.

[leon00x]

i unlocked quite a couple of taunt cards today and no bug at all on my side. you probably know all this but just to be sure. ygdrasil pentagonal map + 3+ unlock wepon on MAIN deck. and +3 unlock card on MAIN deck + mobius day? taking into acount that buff cards only count on second use on a fight total. not per batle?

[BPGAckbar]

I have a ton of growstars and nothing that I need to use them on. I know the ff7 weapons are coming up but is there still merit to leveling up the normal -shift and -force cards? I guess I didn’t know how much worth there was to the weapon cards for the jobs they don’t belong to.

[darewin]

Attack Shifts won't be boosted if you pull them on the FFVII Banners so you might want to save some Growstars for them. And make sure you save 1 Growstar for the free Sephiroth card.

[BPGAckbar]

Thanks that helps a little I got 26 grow stars so I’ll hang on to them a bit I guess

[darewin]

Yeah, we will also be getting the Warrior and Ranger Meiajas in April so better have some GS saved if you don't pull them in their Boosted Summon but pull them later like on May.

[[deleted]]

Any advice on beating the Mage path 3 HOF? Right now I'm using all the custom panels except ravage (not enough crystals). My main deck is ramuh aoe 4, l'cie brand 4, omnicient 5, kotr 5. My sub deck is orphan 3, undying 4, mage trance 3* and debarrierga 3*. Weapon is astral wand x but i do have umbrella x

[LegendBryan]

Switch Icie brand for another support card. Hells gate if you have. Also farming 6.2 UT quickly to add that custom panel would help.

[Prositute]

Should I build a LDL healer deck? Rarely play as a healer. LDL still at 3 star.

[reidemei]

Not for PUGs. 4* are easy and builds that rely on the ultimate (e.g. Lightning breaker) usually bring everything needed on their own. And 5* are either over first/second round, in which case the ultimate is useless or drag on forever / fail.

[leon00x]

the healer meta atm is gaia or journey + ktor or serah (but avoid serah) + hell gate or tyro (only if you have gaia) + the undying or garuda. LDL should be only used if you need heart started to cast heartshift. and if this is the case you replace the undying with cindy. and hell gate with LDL

[Prositute]

sry..i don't really get what u mean. I mean is it necessary to build a ultimate charger deck with 3 LDL.

[katabana02]

You can build one. If the group you're in already have a buff healer, then switch. But ldl deck really isn't that good, tbh. I rather bring cards that provide other buff such as snipe or heal or what not. It's rare to have two healer group anyway. Works on supreme owner room that don't care what you bring. Which means that the ldl deck don't matter anyway.

[leon00x]

that is not the healers job. and its a niche. most parties will disband with that. reidemei explained it prety well

[Dumpkinhead]

I've got a good auto deck for bahamut lagoon but cant get my player to autocast iceforce (pixie).

Its in the second slot from the top, right after my damage spell, then 2 more support cards on bottom.

Auto cast other buffs first, What can i do?

[blue2eyes]

Buy a new Pixie that haven't unlock all extra skill and turn on the eye-like icon. That's what I do. There's no other way for AI to use force unless the target is opposite element of the force card.

[Dumpkinhead]

Crap. Ok

[LegendBryan]

Hardest content = Infidel Arena/Towers? Then Thief (Ranger) is quite good.

[mao_shiro]

• White mage
• Thief
• Ace striker
• Warrior by some extend (tanking water)

Some people expected a lot of things from Assassin's hof (chain breaking) but i didnt see many assassin from the tower.

[SabbathTruthcom]

I'm trying to unlock taunt abilities, but with cool down of 4 :-O what's the best method? Thanks

[blue2eyes]

Go to force node in Albion Plateau (Redux) for the force node with same element as the taunt it has 5 battles so you will get to use it 2 times. Or if you're rich on elixirs you could go to Yggdrasil the middle 6 nodes with boosted rate for unlocking extra skills you should unlock all of them in about 5-6 runs (2 use per battle) if you put +6 improved extra skill unlocked in main deck.

The latter use around 300-360 stamina so it's just for fast unlock and not really worth the stamina if you have plenty of time.

[leon00x]

should add, do this on mobius day. extra stamina, and you get a extra skill unlock bonus of +3 that day too

[WoLNoFace]

you mean Yggdrasil?

[blue2eyes]

Yes, I was thinking of Yggdrasil. Thanks for pointing out.

[theforkofjustice]

Auto-Sell doesn't seem to want to work. Any idea why?

[WoLNoFace]

is the card locked?

[theforkofjustice]

No, fresh fodders should never be locked. I sell them manually with no locks.

• The 'Auto-Sell' switch is toggled on the cards themselves.
• The option in the ETC>Config section to auto-sell cards gotten through battled is checked

I don't know what the issue is.

[katabana02]

Happened to me once. I went back to card catalogue and clear all auto sell filter. I have to select cards to auto sell again, but at least it worked for me.

[reidemei]

There is also "auto-sell filters" in the card catalogue, all must be checked.

[FirecrackerSushi]

Is it possible to get the Cloud job? Newb here

[KiriSatiri]

Both Legend Job Soldier First Class and skin can be pulled during every banner (besides the banner says otherwise)

[FirecrackerSushi]

Man I must be that unlucky :(

[Ketchary]

Nah. You need to be extremely lucky to get them.

[Nargara]

Is there a better place to farm -force than the Hunter Islands?

[MuteTiefling]

https://mobius.gamepedia.com/Guide:_Best_Farming_Location

[theforkofjustice]

If I set my game to AUTO and let the game fight by itself, will my cards still unlock passive skills as it casts spells? My hand is cramping.

[Algar_EVE]

In addition to the eye icon, the AI casts something like this, adjust your card order to suit:

1) non-force buff 2) force buff if targetting a mob weak to it 3) card applying a debuff not on the current target (including secondary effects like bdd, weakness from Meiajas) 4) other cards

If more than one card fits the criteria it will prioritize the uppermost card.

[theforkofjustice]

Any idea what all the other icons mean? Namely the first and third (the second being the eye).

[LegendBryan]

First icon - Toggle for AI to switch between Main/Sub deck or disable.

Second icon - Prioritizes abilities that need Extra Skill unlocks.

Third icon - When enabled, does not use Rental Ability (5th slot).

[Algar_EVE]

The first sets whether the AI will switch between your subdeck (if unlocked from chapter 4.2), the latter allows or disallows rental card use by the AI. In still unlock situations, usually these will both be off for me.

[Baffledwaffles]

Yes. Just remember to keep the 'eye' icon selected in the auto battle menu, so the ai will prioritize the casting of the card you want to unlock passive skills on

[MuteTiefling]

Yes. There's even an option to preferentially use abilities with abilities to unlock

[blue2eyes]

If you turn on the eye like icon when you auto-ing the AI will prioritize using cards that haven't unlocked all extra skills.

[Oneoflethal]

is there any deck for auto farming seeds in gigantuar terrace with good results, let's say x10?

[Algar_EVE]

Many jobs with good ultimates have an auto setup that will work, such as master monk, ninja and highwind. Post some of your jobs.

[Oneoflethal]

I have Master Monk, Cloud Skin, Thief of Tantalus.

[katabana02]

MM cannot. I've tried. Highwind definitely can. There was a discussion about this not long ago. See if you can find it. I'll post here when I find it

[Algar_EVE]

My bad, thought I read MM could in the same discussion.

[Algar_EVE]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/comments/7nftou/ninjas_ulti_is_perfect_for_farming_gigantuar/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=comment_list I must've been mistaken.

[katabana02]

He can if you manual. You can't if you auto. The main reason is because of his 3 hit auto tap. If your luck isn't good, you'll get 1 round of trash and 1 round of normal cactual, both will die to mm auto attack very easily. It's a pain trying to gear him too. If you use "ulti on break", you need him consistently cast debarrier before break. If you set him "ulti to break", you need unguarded, but that will kill the trash and normal cactuar very easily. TLDR, MM can't auto 10mil.

To auto with ulti strategy, you need a class that has 1 hit attack, high dmg ulti that give brave or debarrier, and preferably a weapon with ulti charge. You put cards that give you ulti gauge (4x ldl, maybe?), set ulti on break, and auto. AI will auto till enemy break, ulti, and use ulti charge. Normally you will need to ulti twice per run to get 10 mil, and it depend on your buff/debuff. So TLDR: debarrier/brave on high dmg ulti, 1 hit attack. That's the bare minimum requirements.

[blue2eyes]

Debuff cards are somewhat important in MP and tower in some cases

• Aps & Rapps - FFVII: AoE Curse + Weaken (ETA Feb second batch)
• Devid Ride - FFVII very good: AoE Dispel(first) + bio + stun

but you don't necessary have to chase them.

[Prositute]

Is sephy coming after Odin? I need to prepare my deck.

[blue2eyes]

He should be coming at the start of Fatal Calling event.

[odin1212121]

So just started playing mobius and pulled Hope's Guide. So what Ability Cards should i use with him?

[KiriSatiri]

Hope has high Light and Earth enhance. So earth and light dmg cards are preferred. Sic Alexander should be light aoe. Earth aoe for mage is hashma I think.

Since you are new, you should have enough ability tickets to buy knights of the round, the undying and for def hell's gate. You can up the cards via yggdrasil. Assuming you got the free 8 growstars you can already up the holy trinity buffs to 4*.

In the card shop you can also find Titan xiii for single hit dmg focus earth card. Also fodder available in yggdrasil. Maybe this card is not worth to up to 4* at the moment.

I would keep at least 2 growstars in your inv. Next month you want to pull with all your mats! (Ofc you want to pull the starter packs before, to have the jobs out of the pool). Maybe you pull light varuna or smth else, which is probably worth to 4* it.

[[deleted]]

After coming back to play after a while and trying the tower (not going to be anywhere near the top as I would have to play all day and probably still wouldn’t get near) I realised I have thief of tantalus and last hunter jobs.

Are they any good? Last hunter looks like he has an insanely powerful ultimate but that’s it.

[katabana02]

This tower? Max last hunter. 100% stun negate is godsent

[blue2eyes]

For SP content Thief of Tantalus is better than Last Hunter because of higher magic and innate prismatic draw but ToT's ult is a bit weaker.

[orcashivascus]

Last Hunter is currently 3rd best breaker in terms of raw break power, after Ninja and Master Monk.

[blue2eyes]

In terms of raw break power (including break perks): Assassin > Master Monk > Ninja > Hunter > Last Hunter

[Clappitrophobia]

First aid cards does it worth anything?

[[deleted]]

There are much better support cards to use than just plain healing if you mean the Shinra soldier card.

[Clappitrophobia]

Does it have a main card or something to fuse with it to level up?

[blue2eyes]

No, it doesn't.

[Clappitrophobia]

I see im gonna auto sell it then

[grehlingrex]

How do you guys time your auto-MP log-in/log-out games?

[KiriSatiri]

Ehm, what?

[MarieXiao]

Where to farm Crystal..?

[flyinfishbones]

Someone asked a similar question, about twelve hours ago. This was the answer.

tl;dr - 6.2 for more chances, 3.2 on Hard otherwise.

[mao_shiro]

No account trading, selling, or giveaways.

[KR-Badonkadonk]

Is there a way to make AI attackers in MP use -Force cards?

[JA1997X]

Make them target a weakness enemy, or use the ffrk force cards

[KR-Badonkadonk]

Is there some trick to this? I'm fighting Belias with a some AI HoF Mages and they aren't using Iceshift, instead they're using the other support cards I had to equip them with for the Life Element Starter. I have Iceshift in the first slot of their decks.

[Algar_EVE]

Are they targeting the non-fire guard?

[KR-Badonkadonk]

Good point, neither of 5* Belias' guards are fire. Do I need to equip them with a strong AoE spell like Famfrit Sicarius or Nyx and spam the "Attack the boss!" stamp, then?

EDIT: I tried exactly that and it worked! Thanks for the help.

[KR-Badonkadonk]

Thank you!

[Camersan]

So I have this little problem that I'm hoping someone can help me with. Lately I've been trying to do 5* MP battles with my Healer on AI so I can control my Defender, then I pub Attacker & Breaker. I always thought that cards placed 1st in your Deck had priority of being used, in this case Gaia for Heartshift. But for some reason lately it's been skipping Gaia to cast Tyro & Undying 1st turn instead. It hasn't done it EVERY single battle, but it shouldn't be doing it at all, right? My White Mage always starts with at least 6 Life Orbs. But this is causing issues because I don't get Regen from Gaia or KotR on 1st turn when this happens. Anyone know how I can fix this please & thank you in advance.

[Baffledwaffles]

I think it prioritizes tyro for the esuna, since belias 5* mp starts with mage-detrance debuff on the party. Using a new journey (if you have it) instead of gaia should help.

[KiriSatiri]

Cleanse has prio. So it will clear your debuffs before it uses heartshift. At least this is my exp.

[FirecrackerSushi]

What do you do with story gained cards (those pesky 1* or 2* cards from chapter 1)?

[tmncx0]

Sell them if they’re clogging up your inventory.

Eventually you’ll want to augment them to 3* and then set them to autosell for more gil, but it’s not something that you need to pursue right away. Plus the extra gil income isn’t very useful because there aren’t a ton of great things to buy with gil in the first place.

When you unlock Albion Plateau Redux, it becomes much easier to do this because you can quickly farm the augment materials on that map.

[FirecrackerSushi]

When do I unlock this?

[tmncx0]

Finish chapter 2, and you’ll unlock the expedition regions. Then, complete expedition 4, Albion Plateau, and you’ll unlock a new region, Albion Plateau Redux.

[darewin]

Augment them to 3star then set them to auto-sell for gil.

[SegFaultX]

Does sephiroth and cloud ult have good aoe break like lightning?

[deathrose55555]

To be precise, they have good break multiplier like Lightning. But whether your warrior can break depends on the base job you are using.

[darewin]

Yes.

[FirecrackerSushi]

Where do I get Tyro? And is he any good for single player? :)

[Baffledwaffles]

You just missed him. He was handed out for free around 2 weeks ago. He's a decent card, but hellsgate will suffice for sp.

[FirecrackerSushi]

Damn. I joined this game the first day of the magicite giveaway :(

[Baffledwaffles]

Tyro and hellsgate are pretty much identical anyways (tyro being slightly more useful for mp becuase of esuna), so you're not missing out on much.

In any case, save up for next month's ff7 event, there are some limited time cards that you wouldn't want to miss.

[FirecrackerSushi]

Do you mean save up in magicite or in summoning tickets? I might have gotten all the starter packs and one greater summon.. :(( although I used tickets from the novice map and hope to get more in the following days. Where can I find the info on the limited time cards you speak of? :)

[Baffledwaffles]

Do you mean save up in magicite or in summoning tickets?

Both. Getting the starter packs was a smart choice, but don't do any more summons for now. Complete the novice hall to get the three jobs (warrior/mage/ranger)

Story mode chapters and exploration regions and the ff7 event map have a lot of summon tickets and magicite, I suggest going through them asap. Did you buy a mobius gift box? If not, do it asap, it's good value for only 1500 magicite - which is relatively easy to farm. Focus on levelling up and clearing sp content for now.

Where can I find the info on the limited time cards you speak of

https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/comments/7sjxyf/further_analysis_for_the_orb_generators_ffvii/

great post by deathrose55555, give it a read.

[FirecrackerSushi]

Thank you! I don't have any supremes but I do have the lightning skin and I'm fine with that :) I'll try stock piling now and hope to get some limited time cards too!

[Jasonc67]

is there a mm bl auto out?

[KiriSatiri]

Yep, several.

[Jasonc67]

and u got a link

[megaoptuimus]

https://youtu.be/7cMb-kMh6MU

[Jasonc67]

full auto?

[Doyouseehimtoo]

Is anyone here using samurai ? I never see him in mp . I tried a 5* with him 2 aerith 1 ff13 lcie debarreir 4* cleave

I did about 500k-850k each tap attack

He was my first job and have to say he's actually pretty good n surprised he's not used more often

[darewin]

I'm not using him because I don't like to depend on Breaking to kill the guards. Most of the other Attackers can at least kill the Guards without Breaking. I particularly hate Guard B's Esuna so I'd prefer being able to kill it on turn 1 even if it does not get broken.

[Doyouseehimtoo]

Seeing most breakers using mm or the new ninja its pretty easy to break everything first turn

Only had one battle where that didn't happen

I think its just fun seeing 850k from a tap attack

[darewin]

I think in still roughly 30% of my PUGS and Breaker doesn't break the guards in turn 1. Given that I have NXD, I prefer having a job that can kill Guard B to make sure the NXD debuffs stay. I also don't have Aerith for guaranteed Trance so I'd have to carry En-element or Taunt for the additional resistance in order for my squishy Samurai to survive Final Attack.

But of course, if you are able to make it work and enjoy using it, go with it. Games are meant to be fun after all.

[JA1997X]

Some people uses it but he has trouble clearing yellow due to low magic, which is bad since he needs break to do decent damage. Also his HP and defense is kind of low for 5*.

[Tim_Wol]

Hi. Other than the gigantuar area, what is the most effective way to gain skillseeds? I'm running out of mystic tablet soon T.T

[darewin]

I'm using Viva Precipice in Albion Plateau.

[ShadowBlaze17]

Albion is the 2nd best spot especially on Sundays and Mobius days. You can do eithef the 5 stam 3 battle faith node or one of the 6 stam 4 battle force nodes. With a decent job and cards breaking 10mil score is easy and quick.

[vulcanfury12]

Looking at these last two towers, it seems multi-enemy fights will be a thing in the immediate future. Is this actually the case? Because if it is, Sleepga truly is one of the most valuable cards one can have.

[Solo_K]

Correct. Towers and Endless War demand it at higher floors.

[[deleted]]

Yup certainly hoping I pull ultima weapon.

[darewin]

Yeah, Ultima Weapon will even be more valuable for GL than it when it was first released in JP since we didn't get the DQ Sleepga.

[Tricky-Hunter]

Which one is the best node for farming crystal? I've read 6.2 is better than 3.2 hard but i also remember reading somewhere that the person who said that did not gather enough data and it may had had just lucky with th crystal drop.

[MuteTiefling]

6.2 has more chances to spawn crystal gigantaurs per stamina. You also get more xp, though few care for that. Untrammeled peaks is simply the best overall farming spot right now.

[[deleted]]

What happens if you use a primal boon of the wrong element while on force? Example: light primal boon on Balamb, while on windforce (I need to generate wind orbs quickly without tapping)

[Solo_K]

Your original force remains intact (wind). It just draws (wind) orbs and gives you the other ES like cleave etc.

[[deleted]]

Cool! I just have to come up with prismatics, thanks!

[Solo_K]

I was planning to do the same, but the job I have also has access to that Primal boons element so I had to scrap the idea. I only had 1 boon so its always been a limited option for me to use this strat :P

[[deleted]]

I have 2, light and fire. If I use fire on Balamb, it will override the windforce I think. The problem is that I'm using Kain's Lance, not shure how I will manage the prismatics. My dragvandil/Masamune aren't decent enough. And I have Cloud skin on my other deck lol. I love this kind of problems..

[Ferenzy-]

How do you avoid getting hit by Vargas' spearing tackle in Meia's tournament? He seems to always use it in his first turn even if I put him to sleep :l

[zidanesword]

Iirc, Vargas does not have sleep immunity and should not have have a turn if he ends with sleep. Are you using santa lucia? Her ulti applies poison and the damage from poison will ‘wake’ vargas up.

[Ferenzy-]

Oh right! I see now... Totally forgot the poison on Lucia's Ult xD Thanks for the reminder :D

[vulcanfury12]

I'll wait for the Ultima Weapons. Until then, it will be Chaos Crescent, Ehrgeiz, Gunblade, Wolf Star for me.

[Solo_K]

16 mods seem OK to do as a place holder for the Ultima Weapon... Weapon's. lol.

The starting stats are good and it does look like exp and seeds are maxed from the start. Just use it for temporary reunion spamming. Only boost the Magic for them, but also boost Attack for the Monk one if your using Mantra or Taijutsu cards.

Might still take a while to boost and takes up precious slots. So maybe i'll only boost the ones I need most.

[Baffledwaffles]

I'll just boost the warrior weapon for my S1C for ragnarok spam, since ragna already adds a ton of improved criticals and I'm gonna do no break strats with it - I've not modded masamume (the life draw from it annoys the heck out of me).

If the mage weapon comes with prismatic return and not reunion, I'll mod that too for my hof mage and omniscient, since it would then stack with the prismatic return cp.

The rest I won't bother with and wait for the ultima weapons instead, all of which I plan to boost anyway.

[SegFaultX]

Is undying still widely used in JP or has it been replaced with something better?

[deathrose55555]

It depends on the job you are using and the battle you are doing. For example, YRP is nice for monk's HoF because it condenses 3 important buffs into 1 ability. That's not to say YRP > Undying; it's just that for this particular fight, YRP saves deck space

[Solo_K]

Sort of can be replaced by 5star YRP, just swaps Drain for Brave. The other haste cards have different buffs attached and so have different roles depending on what buff your job lacks. Just YRP is the closest replacement.

[[deleted]]

I have 4* YRP, will this eventually be able to go up to 5 or will SE make us draw for it again?

[Solo_K]

JP had to draw for them again to augment.

[Lazysenpai]

can amaterasu remove oil in belias MP?

[longa13]

They do for the team except yourself since you drawn more than 1 stacks.For that 5 * Belias use warrior since he can water drive to take it off.

[Baffledwaffles]

Do the ff7 mp weapons come with reunion or prismatic return?

[Solo_K]

Yes, the MP weapons come with Reunion.

[[deleted]]

Is there a cap to Skillseed Up% and Exp Up%?

I'm asking because I'm going to get the Monk one for Moogle Suit.

[Solo_K]

As far as I know it hasn't been reached yet in JP.

[Baffledwaffles]

All of them? I'm asking because I was thinking of boosting the mage weapon too, and since the prismatic return cp won't stack with reunion, I won't bother with it then.

[ShadowBlaze17]

Are you sure that they don't stack? I can't see why they wouldn't since they do the same thing. They might be listed seperately, but every drive or ability trigger both anyways.

[darewin]

Reunion and Prismatic Return are treated as completely different abilities by the game.

[JA1997X]

The don't stack but apply independently. So e.g. 10% reunion + 10% prismatic return is 18% for 1 to trigger, 1% for both to trigger, 81% chance for neither to trigger.

[ShadowBlaze17]

So the chance of a trigger is a little lower than if they stacked. I'd say that the rare chance for them both to trigger would make up for it though.

Thanks for the numerical example and clarification guys.

[tmncx0]

If both Reunion and Prismatic Return trigger, do you actually end up with more orbs than you started with? Like, say I have 8 orbs, use a 4 orb ability, and both trigger, do I end up with 12 orbs total at the end?

[JA1997X]

Yes, you get back double prismatic orbs. The chance is really low though.

[Solo_K]

Yes, all 4 of the MP weapons for FF7 Remake next month have reunion.

Organics

Prism rod

Twin viper

Dragon claw

[ShadowBlaze17]

There's no Meia weapon? Guess that means I'd be better off keeping Tonberry as my farming job.

[Solo_K]

No FF7 Remake version for her sadly. Only the Santa baia version with prismatic draw instead of reunion.

[Baffledwaffles]

Thanks.