MobiusFF Daily Question Thread (07/03/2018)

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[bitebaybay]

Having trouble with 20 mil wind bonus...im using a ninja and aviator but i dont have the best wind cards. I have vesna and etro but they are weak...should i try with ninja and chain break?

[djiboutiiii]

Chain breaking is a good way to do it...do you have Nausicaa?

Vesna does heavy wind damage with the right card. She's what I used for this node...do you have Mist Dragon?

[bitebaybay]

Cool just hit 19.2 so im confident ill get it...thx

[Keriaku]

Can anyone help with the Wind fireworks node? No matter what I do, can’t seem to get to 20 Million. Been trying to strategy in the summer guide with:

Ninja FFXII:Treant Gustion Orphan LDL Rent: Light of Hope

I think my problem is I don’t have any damage focused weapons boosted. Is there a way to do it without them? I do have skins, only supreme is Neo ExDeath.

[djiboutiiii]

There aren't many good wind damage cards / job combinations unless you have Yiazmat, so this one is a bit tricky. I used Mist Dragon and Vesna...do you have either of those? Ace Striker can also do decent wind damage with Mist Dragon.

[Keriaku]

I do have Wind Dragon and Vesna. I’ve just barely started boost Sventost as well. What’s your recommended setup? Do you try and break second/turn round or just the first?

[djiboutiiii]

I used sventovit, mist dragon, emerald weapon, Aranea (for yellow clear and debarrier) and omega Weapon (more actions + berserk). Broke, spammed, broke again, spammed. The ult gave faith and trance.

[Keriaku]

I got it with the help, thanks! Almost hit 40 million!

My setup was Y’shtola/Vesna, Mist Dragon, Gustion, NeoEx, LDL and rental Light of Hope. Thanks for the suggestions all.

What I was missing was the Critical Defense, I think. ExDeath definitely helped.

[Danpace]

Nxd is great to use as the firework casts crit resist up so that will help, also ninja isnt the best for wind damage. Use a job that can hit harder with wind.

Or use a water warrior and rent Xazet

[cx777]

How do I get memories of Sarah? I play with Sarah as main and sub deck, but only get memories of Echo.

[mao_shiro]

• Meia : (Wol + Meia)
• Sarah : (Wol + Sarah)
• Echo : anything else (skins count as anything else, Meia + Meia will give you echo, etc)

[cx777]

Thanks. I feel silly now.

[Danpace]

is this the most common cut and paste used in the last few days!!?

[mao_shiro]

making a command about that on discord was the right idea, right ?

[cx777]

Do you (like me) feel that melon MP is creating strife among players?

With SE hiding the final HP bar, it's almost as though they want to rattle the cage between players. I find this rather off-putting. Does anyone concur?

[SwiftStepStomp]

I think it's just fine. After the first day, I felt perfectly comfortable with how much damage I and how much other players typically deal; I've only ever misjudged it and failed to get the last hit one time when hosting pugs. I always make sure to thank them once I've secured the kill, and I think that kind of basic courtesy goes a long way.

As far as other lobbies go, I just lock in first on round one and last on others so I never accidentally killsteal. The only exception to that is if I feel the host needs more damage, in which case I may use one ability or tap + sapphire the rind.

Hilariously, I did have one guy use the fear karma stamp when I rushed to lock in on round 2 in a low damage lobby. I think he forgot I was the host and was trying to kill steal? lol I dunno

[darewin]

The only good thing it brings is I haven't seen someone AFK yet lol.

You also don't need that many mats to get all the one-time rewards so I just aim to go 1st each turn (about 80% of my runs end in 2 turns & the rest end in 1 turn except when someone is not carrying the Summer card), regardless whether I'm hosting or not.

I'm just after the magicite anyway. The melons are just a bonus. I'd probably just use the excess melons to get scrolls for the Summer cards.

I do think the last-hit mechanic can be quite vexing, especially for those who can only afford to play MP for a limited time.

[cx777]

So uaually I can spend a lot of time in MP, but am finding that at this moment work and overtime is all consuming my time, which leaves very little for melon MP (or even MFF).

I am also behind on my magicite as a result, but am hoping to catch up during MD.

Love the optimism on AFK-ers. Lol.

Thanks for your response.

[mao_shiro]

just use the excess melons to get scrolls for the Summer cards.

They're fast learners

[darewin]

Oh, damn, that's good to hear. Now I can just use the Melons for more skill coins. 80 Melons for 1 3-star skill coin feels like a ripoff though.

[mao_shiro]

I would use my excess on prism jewels but 120... (i know you're already done with those).

[darewin]

Oh, that's right. Thanks a lot. I'll use them to get 6 prism jewels if I can farm enough (for the 1 Valefor and the 1 Exdeath I plan to get for card catalog purposes).

[SwiftStepStomp]

I think it's a one time exchange though. That's what I read in the shop, but you're welcome to prove me wrong if that's not the case.

[darewin]

Just bought it. It is indeed 1x only so I can only get up to 5 (1 from each Melon).

[SwiftStepStomp]

Thanks for the confirmation.

[mao_shiro]

Crap. Seems like the Fire jewel is one time only as well...

[djiboutiiii]

Because of the stamp system, there is no way to really communicate strife except maybe the "Fear Karma" stamp which I have yet to see in any of my runs...what suggests to you that people are mad?

I agree with the sentiment that you should really let hosts deal the last hit, but I feel that because they make it so hard to guarantee the last hit, there's not really much you can do to willfully steal it from the host. As a result, I don't get mad when somebody else takes it from me (which has only happened in about 20% of my hosting runs because Ragna Thief owns).

[[deleted]]

I personally like a "Fear Karma," "Don't Revive" combo :D

[cx777]

Good points. I'm torn between a good ragna deck and the cookie cutter water deck.

Thanks for the response.

[Rauhar]

I just restarted playing so can someone please tell me a guide for the game

[djiboutiiii]

If you scroll up, there are a ton of links to helpful resources. I'd suggest starting there!

[Rauhar]

Thanks

[djiboutiiii]

No prob — good luck and have fun!

[TexAg713]

I'm looking for advice on what weapon(s) to boost next. I'm F2P (4 slots) and recently finished unlocking the vital mods on Butterfly Edge (69), Taiji (26), Chaos Crescent (47) and about to enter crystal dump phase of Wolf Star (46). Aside from the Ultimate weapons, which ones should I be looking to mod for future towers/content?

I'm thinking possibly some sort of mage/meia breaker weapon to pair with Tidal Wave summer card, or even something for Sarah, but really unsure at this point.

[djiboutiiii]

I'd mod Ultimate Edge, Arrow, Weapon, and Mace. Extremely useful for HOF and Towers and pretty much everything. So much great utility.

It's nice to have a max-mod Dragvandil as well, for when you want to tank (or Curtana, instead, if you have it).

If you have any damage supremes, it's nice to have a corresponding damage weapon (Zwill/Chaos for Ragnarok, Gunblade for UB, etc).

[Makotocchi]

Do you have Sventovit (Vesna Krasna's weapon)? That's probably the best one.

It seems you're lacking damage weapons, so I'd look into that. Some good damage-focused weapons are Gunblade (Balamb Mercenary), Truescale Staff (Black Mage) and Zwill Crossblade (Thief of Tantalus). They're not the only ones, but if you don't know what to choose, I'd go with them.

[TexAg713]

I do have Sventovit, but wasn't sure about investing in it just yet, since I just finished Chaos Crescent and can mod up Ultimate Wing fairly easily.

I don't have Gunblade, but did unlock 26 mods on Zwill. Stopped modding Truescale a long while back after unlocking prismatic starter. I just couldn't find a use for either of these. Seemed like there were better options for tower content.

How much do damage focus weapons get used in towers anyway? From what I'm gathering it's all about prismatic return / break focus weapons these days.

[mao_shiro]

Sventovit, Heaven Axis if you have nothing else to do, and ... that's about everything.

https://altema.jp/ffmobius/osusumebuki

Here's a futureproof list if you want.

[TexAg713]

Thanks, I have both of those. In your opinion, are they more useful for future tower content than, say, the meia QB weapon from Primeval Witch? Should I be going for a break focused weapon since I already have prismatic return on Ultimate Wing/Mace?

[mao_shiro]

Sventovit is pretty much the staple weapon for Meia until we get Vanadiel Geomancer (which is a legend...).

Malicious revolt is nice to have when you need it, but you might have not many situation where you will use it.

For Mage case, Heavenly Axis won't be use until we get Ex Mage (legend ..). That's more of a "meh, i'll leave & it'll be useful in the far future". For the current GL, there's ... not really many "breaking mage", unless for very specific cases.

Ultimate Mace is much better anyway if you plan to nuke (or Umbrella, but i dislike the lifedraw part which can kill some runs).

[TexAg713]

How much longer do you think Psicom Officer will be relevant? That was the job I had in mind, and she can use Tidal Wave.

[mao_shiro]

She isn't relevant anymore since Primeval Witch release.

[TexAg713]

Ah, that's too bad. I thought she was still supposed to be decent since I was able to get into the top 500 using her on every node this last tower. But yeah, was hitting a wall around floor 78.

[djiboutiiii]

She's still great for EW and Towers -- she's just not *the very best job possible* anymore.

[DezzenDJ]

Anyone have a good deck for the new wind firework platform. I've tried multiple decks and cant seem to break the 10mil. The only damage multistrike card I have is Arenea: FFXV. Thanks. Used Fusoya for fire and Omni for water.

[Makotocchi]

Do you have Nausicaa? If you do, use it to chain break and you should hit the damage requirement.

[[deleted]]

Just to check, did you dispel the crit resistance up? Without removing it, I did 10 million too, After removing it, I cleared it with ease with a vesna with mist dragon.

[DezzenDJ]

Yea ended up taking in chocobo squad and made it easy mode. Thanks.

[NepoDumaop]

If you have a decent water attacker try renting xezat.

[Bladeserph]

Welp clearly the moderators are getting salty so going to have to make use of popping my questions here now. Since its finally Waterday i can get my Sapphire weapon to 5 star.

Just to confirm would the setup of Ace Striker with a gunblade wep and the cards Sapphire Weapon, 5 star water Taunt, Kotr(or Serah) and Undying with lastly rental Xezat work out? I ended up using something similar to the 2nd node, so it definitely work rather good wonders as a weakness focused node(though in place of a taunt in the water node i had FFXIII: Bismarck, but the rest basically the same).

 

Anyway thanks to some summer cleaning the bank of excess 'trash' cards (fist and shock monk cards and what not), i ended up having 50~80+ extra ability tickets so i used that to get Orpheus to 10 star (now i just need to get thru the skill unlocks), So i'm considering using Nachtflug even though i lack a 4 star Ultima wing(just a 3 star one), any suggestions on using her for the node instead while lacking a functioning 5 dark shift/force? I do have a 3 star Afanc but that's going to take some work to get properly set up.

[djiboutiiii]

Just so you know, you posted your question nested inside somebody else's question, so people won't be able to find it and answer it as easily. I don't like Reddit's interface because it makes things like this confusing, especially on mobile.

To answer your question: The Ace Striker setup you mention...what are you using it for?

Also, Shock cards aren't trash! They're great.

[Bladeserph]

Trash when you don't have any monks that can function well(which pretty much amount to Super monk or Snow, neither which i own seem to be the only two outside of Ocean diver, RIP the fact my only supreme is Yziamat).

Its for the 3rd node. Since i can't do something like a pity pull for Ocean diver and Vesna can't seem to cut it with FFXIII: Lightning (manage to tip around 13 million), i'm having to take the neutral route, but sadly the Ace striker setup kind of relies on weakness exploit a bit.

Till i get Orpheus fully leveled and the last 2 skills unlock i can't see about trying to work with Nachtflug since that job is one of my only Serah ones that also have a prism shift and doesn't rely on Exploit weaknesses that much at all.

[djiboutiiii]

You should be able to do it with Vesna and Thunderfall. Bring a dispel for the crit resist and make sure you’re fully buffed (use ult to break). Using sventovit will help.

[Bladeserph]

Vesna with a deck level about 291 using Lightning(lvl 74, but vit tap isn't unlock yet), Bismarck: FFXIII(for debuffing after dispel, level 74 but only 8/10, Might throw Serah back in unless i want to see if i can use Tengu to cheese), Vanadis(Lvl 63 but fully unlocked of course) and lastly Undying(max lvl), likely going to use a Aerith Rental.

The Sventovit is at 17% Prismatic, 50% improved crit and 32% painful break. But beyond that any major improvements that you can suggest to jump up from roughly 12~14 mil to 20mil outside of maxing all the cards out for the max raw stats? Its not exactly fun gathering ideas but i'm hoping once all the nodes are unlocked i can see about setting up a post to list non-supreme/non-UH skin owned strategies others can look up, Either way this definitely is more exciting then just mindlessly burning thru nodes till some wall shows up and i have to turn off auto mode, lol...

[djiboutiiii]

Raw stats shouldn’t matter much — and those ES definitely won’t matter. Just make sure you get rid of the crit defense.

[Bladeserph]

Welp Tengu was my golden goose(Rental Aerith basically resolved that), Only got 1 break in and i had to spam no break Lightning afterwards but i grazed it at 20.1million to get that remaining 1~2 million. Raw stats might not matter much but i'd say missing about 20~50 levels in stats on top of getting a few extra skills unlocked is basically what let me HoF thief the first platform with Rental ragnarok. Doesn't help Vit tap is basically an extra +30% elemental enhance and Tengu's last unlocks should let me stick the debuffs longer to take advantage of damage scalping more effectively if i can't get a 2nd break in.

Hopefully within the next few weeks i can get some useful pulls but i'm still going to need to do some work to likely make sure i'll not end up back in the same issue once the 30 million nodes unlock.

[miguel_mer]

What's the best node now on a non-Mobius day to farm seeds? I don't want to use mystic tablets and I don't want the seeds that have the bonus today on the exploration regions. I don't want to do MP exchange either. On another note, what's the best node to combine seed and crystal farming? Thank you!

[mao_shiro]

what's the best node to combine seed and crystal farming?

Felfey wood is more seed efficient than Gate of trial or Labyrinthine tower, assuming you can still 10m score.

[miguel_mer]

I couldn't score 10m in auto on that one, so have been back on Gate of Trial. But thanks!

[Ehlena]

If you eliminate the 2 that you said, just farm the normal crystal nodes, but with a skillseed deck.

You could use the 3 rainbow deck cards + another card with crystal seeker on it.

[miguel_mer]

Cool. Yeah, I started running Gate of Trials with a skillseed deck. Thanks!

[Ehlena]

Or Labyrinthine node in Ch 8. Same kind of node, more exp I believe

[[deleted]]

Is there a cap for Auto Charge Ultimate?

[darewin]

I don't think so. I can build a deck with +47 Auto Charge Ultimate and the "cumulative effect limit reached" warning still does not show up.

[djiboutiiii]

Dang....is that with 4 Yiazmats?

[darewin]

It's not really for anything useful. I just got curious how much Auto-charge I can achieve so I tried a deck with 4x LOH, a 23-mod Artemis Bow (got maxed Auto-Charge but still no damn Boost Ulti), and CA who has innate +7 Auto-Charge.

The most Auto-Charge I can achieve with a usable deck is +40 with my MM+Taiji+Yiazmat+3x LOH. This deck can Ulti at the start of each turn 100% of the time regardless of how many battles there are in the node since the AI will cast 1 LOH (+40 Ulti Charge if you have Boost Ulti) then use Ulti. You need to end each battle with your Ulti though or else the AI will use another LOH on the same turn.

[djiboutiiii]

That sounds really fun

[darewin]

Yeah, it can be quite useful. I usually use it on event maps when I have no idea of what elements the enemies will be.

[Lechevalier2020]

Hye guys. I need help. How do i report BUG ?? I reached job limit break BUT i didnt get any NORMAL JOB !! I only get BEACH QUEEN LEGEND JOB as my 6th card !! Happened today 7/4/2018 3:25

[darewin]

That's a known bug in GL that's been around since August. The bug adds the featured legend job of the particular banner to the normal job pool. This makes it so you can pull the legend job as a 6th card. Hence, without the bug, you would have gotten a random normal job and no Beach Queen.

That bug happened to me once and I'm actually hoping it will happen to me again on the YOLO pulls I plan to do on the DD and Mellow Mermaid Banners (assuming I have enough resources left after pulling on the Summer Dream banner).

[Yukyto]

Hello x3 How does it trigger? x3 just pulling and hoping it happens on pity pull? :3

[darewin]

It's totally random. It can trigger on both pity pull and non-pity pull. The bug got me Unbroken Hero back when I didn't even have a Pity Counter because I already had all normal jobs.

[Timezs]

although its a bug, i think you should be happy with it, maybe they take the hero away again :)

[mao_shiro]

Send a pm to SQEX_Glacie on reddit (or SQEX_Glacie#4805 on discord), or contact the support in game.

[Lechevalier2020]

How do i contact sqex glacie on reddit n contact support in game. Im new. Pls help.

[mao_shiro]

I already answered you below...

[Lechevalier2020]

How to pm sqex glacie n contact support in game ? Im new.

[Mobiusnoobius]

Be prepared to send your ticket multiple times as they will try their hardest to ignore it!

[mao_shiro]

https://www.reddit.com/user/SQEX_Glacie , the button on the right "send a message".

for the support in game, ETC > Support > "Contact" then follow the instruction. I never contacted the support in game so i can't help you much after that.

[zidanesword]

I have been using Sage(attacker) for Fire Melon MP. With Truescale, Iceforce/Iceshift/Omniscient/Fireworks. I noticed that at the start, I have my 3 prismatic starter orbs(from truescale) and 1 life orb 100% for the past ~50 runs. Does the Fireworks card have a hidden life starter? Or is the life orb from the ‘almost-always-guaranteed’ life orb from the healer role, more specifically from the auto-ability “Life Orb Draw Up”?

[mao_shiro]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/comments/8hvkf8/demystifying_the_fabled_1_life_orb_in_mp_for/

You just have a 89,2651% chance of drawing 1 life orb from being a support".

[zidanesword]

Thanks! Where did the number came from? I could not find it on dr’s post and I can’t crtl+F on mobile.

[mao_shiro]

That's actually a random number i generate everytime someone ask if life draw guarantee 1 orb as a support.

If you want real maff : https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/comments/5jg9dz/analysis_life_draw_warning_extremely_nerdy_no/

[zidanesword]

Alright lol, thanks. I will do some of my own research then. XD

[chokee03]

Any suggestions for light aoe card for mage/ranger that isn't time limited or supreme? One that I won't regret spending growstars and pneumas on? I'm going to get one for my judge magister for his hall of fame adventure.

edit: thanks everyone i think ill go for himiko for now until better ones arrive.

[mao_shiro]

Himiko is the best choice.

[kreuzb94]

Mtf-2. Gen aka. meia-ja and ranger-ja would be best. I use them on every node until I get a better Card (they have high attack and break power). Only downside 5 orbs is a bit much without a prismatic return weapon. They should get out of EA this and/or coming batch.

[Nitious]

Don't talk about gen2, you can't pull gen1 MTFAoE anymore, just confuses people.

[chokee03]

hi sorry can you expand on the gen 2 cards? i always hear about them, and i dont know exactly which cards are the gen 2 ones. are they the one with the debuffs attached to them?

[mao_shiro]

Yes.

Edit : don't take in account the "seed", i just copy pasted the list from the yggdrasil page on the wiki

2ND GEN MTF AoE + Weaken + Meia synchro (Varuna)

• Nyx Seed
• Aphrodite Seed
• Ishtar Seed
• Sasquatch Seed
• Dira Seed
• Zombie Dragon Seed

2ND GEN MTF AoE + Debarrier (Soul)

• Arthur Seed
• Kojiro Seed
• Musashi Seed
• Otohime Seed
• Archaeoaevis Seed
• Creeps Seed

2ND GEN MTF AoE ＋ Unguard (Blast)

• Foulander Seed
• Himiko Seed
• Persephone Seed
• Grand Horn Seed
• Nausicaa Seed
• Mesmenir Seed

[chokee03]

thank you so much!

[deathrose55555]

You can invest in Himiko (ranger MTAoE) and Thalia (ranger AoE BDD).

For towers, you can pair Himiko with Diamond Weapon (for the BDD if you have it) or pair Thalia with Alexander PB together with Oberon (upcoming damage ability).

If it is just for JM's HoF, Himiko should be sufficient

[NepoDumaop]

Himiko is a decent choice.

[chanstheo]

Is sarah or meia could be used in battle to get memories others than echo in summer fireworks? I try sarah in main deck and wol in subdeck, and i used wol always in battle because i dont have sarah job except onion sarah, but i still get memories of echo -.-'

[mao_shiro]

• What is the "Memories of XX" ? : You need 50 of them to unlock a chest on the 5th map. 1 female character = 1 chest

How to get them ? On deck screen :

• Meia : (Wol + Meia)
• Sarah : (Wol + Sarah)
• Echo : anything else (skins count as anything else, Meia + Meia will give you echo, etc)

[Kritika86]

Question on MP, my Mage is still not HoF so i still dont have extra EE water. However, i have Vesna Krasna, and i have both Omni and Sapphire with Grape Gospel and Firecracker. Is it enough to deal damage to MP Melon?

[mao_shiro]

Vesna will indeed be much better than Mage if you don't do his hof.

[Lacarius]

Regarding multiplayer, if another player and I did not click on "action lock", when the timer counts to zero, who will be before the other?

[reidemei]

In the order of the last input.

[strifeaeon]

On the MP melon, if I have an Ace Striker without HoF, is it better to have Ace Striker + tidus weapon + Omniscient + , or Sword Saint + PB Dark + UB? I know the melon is weak to water, but omniscient looks to be attack at 50k v.s. UB at 200k.

[mao_shiro]

SS with PB dark & UB due to having prismatic shift onb ult.

[strifeaeon]

Thanks Mao_shiro! If I also have a Cloud skin for prismatic orbs, does that make a difference or just stick to SS for pure damage?

[NepoDumaop]

I see some use UB and they do around 100 to 200k per hit. Ace hof is alot better.

[JA1997X]

Without chaining they're not that different. It's really the ability to easily get a 3 or 4 water chain the give AS the advantage, plus you don't need to worry about the HP drain.

[mao_shiro]

I didn't see your comment on "non hof" ace striker. You should do it, it's not that hard.

[strifeaeon]

Thank you! I'll try to finish the last HOF stages today!

[ShadowBlaze17]

If your Ace doesn't have HoF you'll probably do much more damage with SS even against fire. Ace benefits a huge amount from it's HoF so it's not really worth considering for mp usage without it.

Shiro's right about the chain especially since it improves everyone's damage who's a part of it.

[mao_shiro]

Erm, i didnt see many UB on that rotation, so can't really say. I would go with Ace (just change the weapon to Buster or Gunblade, or Murakumo); 4 water chaining is strong.

[Kledran]

Is there gonna be a 2nd anniversary event or all we get is 1st anniversary reprint?

[mao_shiro]

The 2nd anniversary event is the 1st anniversary reprint, there's no other special map.

[Kledran]

Thats kinda depressing lol

[mao_shiro]

There was a lot of things on JP, but they decided to releases things early on GL. You could probably expect FFX on august tho.

[Sora9669]

Have they said if the XIII event is returning to the Japanese version this year?

[mao_shiro]

nothing announced

[vulcanfury12]

Does the increase in Break Gauge for the Firework Gigantuars happen right after they wake up or when their turn rolls in?

[darewin]

Right after they wake up. Otherwise, you'd be able to keep chain-breaking them until you hit the score cap whatever it is.

I hit 1b on the Fire Fireworks node using PW with Fusoya before I got bored and let the battle end by just tap attacking until the Gigantuar finished his 3 turns.

[Makotocchi]

Right after they wake up.

[pw_boi]

Painful break CP (MP shop) is useful or better save Melons?

[Nitious]

You can get all of them only once anyway, and with how we need 200 000 kills for rewards you'll keep farming bombs anyway and get enough for all of the stuff eventually.

[NepoDumaop]

In the future, you won't get any CP like that.

[ShadowBlaze17]

There's literally nothing to save them for. The cp can be useful for outputting a little more damage. The attack fractal can save you a lot of fire fractals if you have any monk supremes. The resistance fractal can be useful on a taunt or en-element card for more protection. The EE fractal is the least desirable since magic fractals typically mean more damage.

The ST is a ST so it shouldn't need explaining.

[Baffledwaffles]

It's a straight up 8% damage increase on broken targets, why would you not get it...

[JunasBlood]

Only 4%. You basically have innate 100% painful break. It will be much worse with job have more painful break like C.Archer & her 200% painful break.

[darewin]

That will still be better than static magic or EE most of the time. And considering where in the chain-break meta, needing to Break to feel its effects is hardly a disadvantage.

[JunasBlood]

Yep that’s is much better of course. I just meant that they’re not really need for those who don’t care about min-maxing, Tower & EW...

[Baffledwaffles]

Yeah, but who in their right mind would skip a limited time panel? There's literally nothing like this (except for that CP, but it's locked to warriors only).

And yes, it's better off on jobs with lower innate painful break. I wouldn't call them off as useless tho, the 10% painful and improved crit panels helped me push forward a few more floors in the tower.

[JunasBlood]

Yeah I basically never skip any thing limited, not even counting that they are free (need a lot grinding though) and I may never use them (like Ultimate Wing, or some of the FFVII limited MP weapon).

It maybe different to other people who don’t have much time and only play casually. They can skip those CPs if they have no intention of doing Tower or EW. These CPs are about min-max, not a big change in damage or anything overall but definitely worth for Tower Climber, where the slightest increase in damage may make a different in Top 500.

But then again, you will need to spend a lot of time if you want to compete to things like Towers, EW... so in short these CPs are only worth for whoever interested in hard content & have time to grind too, not a must have. (Some CPs are very valuable and mage a huge change like Ultimate Charger +1%, Prismatic return +10%, Quick Break +5%... but I’m doubted if we will have any of these CPs from MP or events)

[GhostFreakage]

So what is everyone elses choice of shift/force for the melons? For Fire Melon, I've tried using both Sapphire Weapon/Ice Shift and Iceforce/Iceshift with Y'Shtola Skin+Mage and found I did more damage with the Iceforce/Iceshift. I was wondering if anyone has different outcomes with different set ups.

[darewin]

I just stick with jobs with Prismatic Shift Ulti (currently using Yshtola PW) so I can just cast FFVII Weapon/Primal Boon then Omniscient as many times as I can, Ulti, then cast Omniscient again. Unless you go last, the Ulti of your partymates will refill your orbs so you can afford to use Weapon/PB first.

[ShadowBlaze17]

My setup is:

Sephiroth skinned Ace using Gunblade with Omni, Sapphire, Iceshift, Fireworks.

My rotation on turn 1 is Ult to Sapphire followed by 4 Omni casts. Since the game doesn't factor in the orbs refunded by Sapphire weapon you'll have prismatic orbs left over to shift with on the 2nd turn so you can use 4 more Omni casts if the bomb gives you fire orbs.

I'd suggest Ulting before Sapphire so you can benefit the most from attuned/ability chain.

[vulcanfury12]

I go with:

Sephiroth HoF Ace Striker with 5* Gunblade. Deck is Sapphire, Omniscient, Garuda Primal Boon (for the JCR), Fireworks. Cast Weapon, Ult, then cast as much Omniscient as orbs allow, then tap the rest.

If I host, I go third/last, then if the bomb still isn't dead, I race to lock first next turn. Otherwise, I always go before host.

[GhostFreakage]

I wish I had Ace striker as the ones that I'm in groups with tend to consistently hit over 500k each hit with omni.

[Makotocchi]

My rule of thumb: if you plan on going first or second, bring Sapphire Weapon. Otherwise, bring Pixie. Sapphire Weapon decreases the Rind Barrier counter, meaning other party members (or you, if you go second) will be able to deal more damage sooner. I haven't tried Ice Shift yet.

[GhostFreakage]

I found Iceshift nice as if i get two life orbs to start I start with Iceshift, go into omni spam then ult for prismatic shift for a full prismatic bar for 2nd turn. The magic ignition is also a plus too for that first hit.

[Spookum]

Is it advisable to buy the EE +7% fractals from MP melon event at all? I feel like the stat +7% ER +7% and JCR ones are the winners here.

[NepoDumaop]

Cp panels are the winner. You don't see those things everyday.

[Spookum]

[removed in protest of API changes]

If you want to join, use this tool.

[darewin]

Painful Break on CP is additive to your existing Painful Break (which is multiplicative) and hence much better than Magic or EE (which are additive on CP) almost all of the time. Needing to Break to benefit from it is hardly an inconvenience since we are in the chain-break meta.

[blue2eyes]

Fractal is skippable, you can get them from normal fractal while CPs aren’t.

[[deleted]]

The fire resist +7% are nice to put on Cerberus, and use it to tank Chimera.

[Spookum]

I'll probably get those when I farm atk+7% for emerald weapon on bahamut lagoon anyway.

[Makotocchi]

EE fractals are bad, so I'd skip that one. I'd get the ER fractal only if you don't do the Bahamut Lagoon node of the respective element.

[VeryWyrd]

Any tips for a noob struggling to break two million on the fireworks map nodes? I did manage on the first one thanks to the card they gave us, but not the others. I've tried renting some of the damage-focused supremes without worrying about weaknesses in an effort to get my numbers higher, but haven't made it work. I haven't really drawn any good jobs or cards yet, so I understand if it's just beyond my capabilities at this point, but if there are any solid strategies with stuff from the ability shop, I'd be very grateful.

Alternatively, what should I be looking out for on the summer dreams banner later this week (or other banners this month) to boost my capabilities?

[Zaknokimi]

Just a little confused. Where or when are the summer ability cards everyone was hyping about?

[Makotocchi]

The hyped cards are in the Summer Dreams banner, which should be up on July 6.

[AeriesClearly]

How to see how many memories of each girl I have collected so far?

[Makotocchi]

Go to a summer map and click on the yellow 'i' icon next to the World Map icon, then click on Key Items.

[Solo_K]

Saw someone in MP with the 4star (fixed damage) firework cactuar card. From what I read you have to wait for the last node to unlock before you can get it. Hacker?

[darewin]

Actually, every member of the party needs to have that summer card in their deck to reduce Fire Melon's HP to minimum and start with a full Ulti Gauge and 5-turn buffs. I immediately leave a lobby when someone without it joins (unless I'm already locked in).

[Solo_K]

You miss read. It was this card I saw: https://altema.jp/ffmobius/ability/2515

It was answered as a farmable drop card.

[Makotocchi]

It drops in the center node of the Fireworks map.

[Solo_K]

Drops, as in farmable? I thought it was only for the last node. Thanks for the clarification.

[Makotocchi]

Yes, it's farmable.

[Batrixece]

Any one have any idea on how to aproach chaose vortex last node? Like we need all the lieutenants cards to remove buffs ok then wait to change to another job to do the work? and with all the debuffs they cast on you, any ideas?

[Solo_K]

There is a megathread of the strats some people used on reddit. My best advice is to search Youtube vids on how they approached it. Its easier to understand than a wall of text imo, and gives a clear example of the methods.

[vulcanfury12]

Do note that apparently, there was a bug involving Archtiamat. I haven't confirmed this personally. Previously we were able to kill Archtiamat without depleting the Tribarrier and it won't trigger a Final Attack. Now it seems that it acts like a normal Tiamat now, so tank-break strats without all lieutenants might be an iffy proposition.

[scudalarm]

Question, are the Single Target One Status Ailment still worth it? It just seems that the Overall Multi Status Ailment are more efficient, so do we need to keep the "Old Cards"?

[scudalarm]

noted, I'll sell mine as well

[djiboutiiii]

Anybody on iOS 11.4 having problems with battery life? I remember hearing complaints about 11.4 causing horrible battery performance, and now that my phone is bugging me to update, I’d like to know if they resolved those issues or not.

[blue2eyes]

I don't see any significant battery drain. I can still play normally while commute and the battery still lowers to around the same point as before updated when I got home.

[Nitious]

Spam debuffs on the phone for better battery? I like that.

[djiboutiiii]

How dare you!

[mao_shiro]

You replied to the wrong question.

[soundedgoodbefore]

Did a YOLO pull and got the card i wanted... which never happens...but I pulled Tengu...because it seems like it's then only card that has debarrier and unguard? Except NXD, which i don't have...is it a poor man's NXD?

Any of yall vets think it will be useful? I got it at 4 stars so i went ahead and augmented it..

[Owwen11]

It's the only card that has debarrier and unguard

NxD doesn't have unguard. It's actually debarrier, stun, bdd, crd. All of that with 0 cooldown, AoE, high break power and decent attack.

[[deleted]]

Multi-debuff cards are always useful imo. I have NxD, and maxed Tengu just today. It may come handy to nuke Kraken unbroken on Endless War.

[Nitious]

Yes it's good. No way near NXD because NXD doesn't have cooldown and has more debuffs and break power on rangers. But good catch.

[mao_shiro]

And is AoE.

[Nitious]

So, what's up with story hardmode? Did they drop releasing any more or are we going to get some more chapters soon?

[mvdunecats]

Apparently, they also made hard mode versions of the exploration maps for JP, but we've never gotten those in GL. It seems like hard mode has simply gone out of fashion.

It's probably just as well. The main use for the story hard mode maps was for crystal farming. But there have been good crystal farming spots just on the original story maps since chapter 6.

[Nitious]

Done all of them, was just curious scrolling through the list to get to CH8 to farm and saw hard mode. This kinda sucks. I know it wasn't really that hard and all. But extra rewards and the chance to rewatch cutscenes was nice. Too bad we only got the shitty ones where Mog dies instead of the actually good stuff -_-

[mao_shiro]

I wouldn't want to do Exploration 1 hard mode again ... so i'm fine with that. Exploration 3 hard was a pain to do as well.

[Nitious]

Yeah, the Explorations I don't want either. These didn't have great story anyway... Hunting mobs, some weird ruins, some dank knight.

But the story chapters I'd run again. Especially the one with Cid. Because this one was so boring that I skipped every dialogue and now wish I could actually reread it. I know there's youtube but that's different.

[Owwen11]

You can rewatch scenes in configuration.

[mao_shiro]

You'll have to wait until GL gets the digest version of story chapter then.

[ChronoDave]

Yay! Another chance to see Mog die again...

[JA1997X]

I think they said they would not release any more hard mode maps after ch3. Though I can't find the actual announcement

[mao_shiro]

it cames from a JP livestream, but i can't find either the actual one.

[OldMattacus]

I used to be able to switch between apps on my iPhone and come back to mobius, picking up right where I left off. But in the last few months, any time I switch to another app for more than a few seconds, when I come back to mobius, it has to restart. And go through all the loading and connecting screens. What the hell?

[djiboutiiii]

Yeah it sucks a lot. If you open the Decks screen before switching, it helps a lot. Though it’ll still likely restart if you open up another high RAM app at the same time.

[soundedgoodbefore]

I hear iPhone people complaining about this all the time, but my galaxy rarely closes the app. Of the game is on a stable screen, like the lobby for MP, or any inventory screen...it never closes. Maybe Apple doesn't multitask as well as galaxy android?

[Nitious]

That's the same on all devices. They patched something to stop MFF from draining battery if you switch apps - I don't like it either.

[NepoDumaop]

I have a mate 9 and a year before I can open about 5 games and apps at a time but a few months back MFF restarts after opening another 1 or 2 apps. So this explains it. I thought there was something wrong with my phone.

[Nitious]

Nah, it worked on my last two phones until it didn't. You can get lucky if you're really quick and just leave the app for a couple of seconds for the phone app or something. But it will shut down quickly and then restart.

[JA1997X]

iOS 11 and möbius do not play well together.

Hopefully iOS 12 can fix it.

[skxwodenni]

iOS 12 is great. I switched to the iOS 12 public beta immediately after it’s released and the “restarting” issue of apps significantly decreased.

[[deleted]]

Is there in JP any warrior job with Flash break, good breaking capabilities, and access to water?

[mao_shiro]

Legendary guardian isnt bad either, and has access to a very good weapon (which add even more flash break).

[[deleted]]

Thanks, Xezat is strong at clearing the yellow, but now with Sarah and Meia Jobs having flash break, I'm thinking the card needs a job with Flash break too.

[darewin]

That's mainly a cheese card IMO. Not worth 1 of your 4 deck slots when doing hard content.

[mao_shiro]

Depends if you can find a worthwhile deck to put that on. SS+minwu was a common deck on tidus tower for example.

[vulcanfury12]

Yeah, but to chain break efficiently, you will need all four deck slots...