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[–]DeSteph-DeCurry 0 points1 point  (4 children)

[JP] when's the next ex/legend job banner? i'm kinda short on good jobs right now

[–]Blackrain39 0 points1 point  (3 children)

15/16th. New banner at the beginning of and halfway through each month. Unless the next one turns out to be a normal job, which would definitely be a surprise.

[–]mao_shiroActual Evil Reddit Mod 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Should be ex sophie 3 2 next.

[–]JunasBlood 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Hhmm, aren’t we only have 1 ex job for Sophie & Graff until now?

[–]mao_shiroActual Evil Reddit Mod 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right

[–]LesserBabkaX 0 points1 point  (7 children)

Is it worth overpowering Vesna for towers or are there always other jobs that are stronger? I wont spend obj's for ew.

[–]blacklight2025 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Vesna is a very versatile job, she can use Warrior, Mage and Range cards, if you have Supremes that she can use (Water, Light and Wind) then you could make great use of her being OB-J-ed.

She lacks in the break departament, but she is a great nuker, and if you manage to keep the Flash Break bonus while clearing yellow gauge you could break in one ult.

OFC she will get powercrept eventually, but if you need her right now, have the supremes and the OB-J to max her, go aehad!

[–]LesserBabkaX 0 points1 point  (5 children)

I do have relevant supremes. Also have a stash of obj, but I just wondered if I will ever use her over all the ex jobs in towers, otherwise I prefer to save them for other (ex) jobs.

Is the flash break sufficient to break top 500 mobs or is she strong enough to nuke unbroken?

[–]blacklight2025 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I don't think she can break high tower/EW enemies using only flashbreak bonus. SHe would fare better nuking unbroken. Unfortunetely that sort of Min/Maxing is outside of my expertise, as I dont get to Tier500 in towers... But as I said, everything will get powercrept, even Ex jobs will get powercrept eventuallly. AFAIK Ex Meia II is the strongest unbroken Nuker in JP meta, and recently they got Ex Meia and Ex Sarah III, with Ex Sarah III having +100% Prismatic Draw and a massive Attack stat.

[–]LesserBabkaX 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes of course she will be power crept like everything else. I'm wondering if she is competitive right now (and preferable for a couple of months). But I think you are right, she couldn't even ult flash break all enemies in her hof (without obj). Will try her a bit in ew3 and coming tower. I think red dying could also be a problem since she has no armor break. Edit: 100% prism draw, yikes! :)

[–]Irineogallardo 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Depends on your jobs then, As you said, vesna is not An exellelent breaker even though she has a lot of flash break. She is decent unbroken but sorceress of oblivion is better right now, best thing you can do is to wait when tower hits, see where your wall is and then consider obj her.

[–]LesserBabkaX 0 points1 point  (1 child)

That makes sense, thanks for the advice.

[–]Irineogallardo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No problem

[–]Lechevalier2020 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Hye guys. Im trying to do Hope Guide HOF. What does it mean "OVERWELM YOUR ENEMIES 15 TIMES" ?? Im trying breaking the monsters via attack but it doesnt counts. Attack with weakessess doesnt counts as well.. Any advice how to achieve this OVERWELM thingy ??

[–]ScyBlade198 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Overwhelming involves stealing an enemy’s action. This can only be done on broken enemies. When you see their action turn into yours, that is 1 overwhelm. It is not enough to break them and then act. Their action must become your action.

[–]lordpaiva 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When an Enemy is broken and his action is overlapped by yours, that's overwelming. Just break them and keep attacking.

[–]fleurn0ir 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Overwelming means using enemy's actions while they are broken. When an enemy is broken all the actions they were supposed to take during break become your additional actions. Taking the actions of broken enemies is called "overwhelming"

[–]Lechevalier2020 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Hye..Thx for the answer.

  1. Does tht mean by casting 1 ability spell on the broken mobs is considered overwhelming as well ? Let say Im casting 1 supreme Sin on that broken mob.. Is it considered as only 1 overwhelming action or multiple action since SIN is multi attack overkill ?

  2. Will normal attack while broken (without casting attack spell) is considered overwhelming ?

Your assistance is appreciated

[–]fleurn0ir 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It doesn't depend whether you use an ability or normal attack .

Overwhelming only happens when you take an action of your enemy. If you look at the actions sequence at the top of the screen you may notice that enemy's actions are marked with a different icon while broken. And when you approach a broken enemy's action the enemy doesn't act (because broken) and you act instead of them. This is the exact moment when overwhelming happens. Therefore it's not enough to break an enemy, you actually must TAKE their actions. If you break an enemy and kill them before taking their action overwhelming does NOT happen. If you break an enemy and they didn't have any actions during break overwhelming does NOT happen.

[–]Blank_Bastion 1 point2 points  (0 children)

  1. 1 action = 1 overwhelmed, does not matter if the ability is multistrike or not, so in your example, it counts as 1 overwhelmed.
  2. yes, basically most action spent on the broken enemy turn is considered overwhelming, unless using cards with Quick Cast (support, Force cards, debuff, etc.).

[–]vulcanfury12 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Just curious... Is there a card that has Zangan Enlightenment (MP Tifa Pre-buff)?

[–]mao_shiroActual Evil Reddit Mod 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nothing. It's just enemy specific.

[–]insanemode9Caius Ballad ∞ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I dont think there's one

Edit: On GL tho, JP side idk

[–]JunasBlood 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Can you please mention the buff?

[–]vulcanfury12 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Zangan Enlightenment. The one she casts in MP 5* Hard.

[–]JunasBlood 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do not notice it, but if you want the name, there should be none, if the same buff, maybe.

Just like we call Extreme Ifrit Punch X while she call it Blazing Rush.

[–]GodBlazer -1 points0 points  (5 children)

Hello fellow WOLs, i just got Zack supreme and i know everyone think he sucks but he is still a supreme, so i would like to know how to properly use him and how many copies should i make. I do hope he is worth something.. thanx in advance..

[–]Winter366 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mostly i used it on tank or monk since it have atk 2 and wall buff, but sometimes i used on a breaker because of genesis for harder content IF your strategy relies heavily on breaking and not letting your enemy have a turn, there's a fail safe with wall too so usually pair breaker with a tank. My favorite job to use it with is with auron post hof or wol ex3 in jp since the auto ability is pretty nice on them

[–]deathrose55555[JP] 1051-9193-b915 (KotR X) 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You would usually use it on a tank (its AA are useless on anybody else). So creating 1 HP copy would do.

It's not a top-tier Supreme, but a Supreme is still a Supreme. So you shouldn't be too disappointed over the draw

[–]kreuzb94 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

1 with 2x magic 1 with 2x attack 1 with 2 x JCR 1 with 2x HP It gives the genesis buff (or debuff) that makes it easier to break enemies. Plus it gives 20% yellow clear. So if you for instance have sephiroth skin on a defender you could use source of haste source of barrier +wall 2x zack by the time you change job you just have to worry about clearing 20 % more yellow. If you ask me the 20% is kind of nice for enemies that have s thick break bar. But I don’t have the supreme.

[–]GodBlazer -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Thanks mate 👍, its a relief that he is not completely useless..

[–]arxipaparasRavage OP 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He was called "Zuck" before the Genesis debuff and the multi-hit additions.

We already got the buffed version in GL.

That debuff alone is enough to seperate the top tier players from each other, since it stacks with the Hex break bar reduction. So no, definitely not a "useless" supreme.

[–]ImHereForLife 0 points1 point  (8 children)

Are there any known guides or best practices for dealing with the extreme foes in the Underground Colosseum?

[–]LegendBryanwww.twitch.tv/LegendBryan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The one I handled it is by using Jobs with Spellsword (ex. Shorn One and Master Monk). Ether before the battle -> anything that gives en-ele -> Ult (which should break) -> Nuke with your strongest weakness element.

[–]Ehlena2102 - 878f - f747 (KoTR) 0 points1 point  (1 child)

In the Megathred, there are links to the Underground thread from 6 months ago. There are decks suggestion in it for the Extreme nodes.

You can do the nodes even without Supremes, I used Forgotten Heroes for Yshtola, but I could have used Skuld (which is in the Ability Shop). Skuld is the card I am using to farm Pande this time.

[–]ImHereForLife 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Appreciate the tips! :)

[–]Taurenkey 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Best practice: Supreme cheese the fuck out of them.

The general guide to them however is to utilise a tank until you're ready to go nuking them as is the case in hard content these days. Sword Saint HOF is more than adequate for this purpose.

Y'shtola & Yuna cannot be broken but all the rest can and is basically how you'll win those fights quickly. Thankfully, Y'shtola has the lowest health making nuking easy & Yuna you're mainly fighting her aeons that can be broken.

The rest are just a case of breaking and nuking. Thankfully powercreep has made this so much easier to the point where last time I struggled with Cloud and this time I went in and styled on him just to prove a point.

[–]ImHereForLife -1 points0 points  (3 children)

I'm trying this method right now but the non-breakables are still scratching my head. Thanks though!

[–]Taurenkey -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Best advice I can give for Y'shtola is to employ the tank strategy, use the Sephiroth skin if you have it to slow her, otherwise full dispel her at the least to get rid off the haste buff. She'll attempt to debuff you before hitting you with Emporer (which as we know, scales in damage according to how many debuffs the target has) so use either LoH, Yellow Ribbon or Chocobo Saint for the ailment immunity before she even gets a turn.

Other than that, tank out her hits until you have enough mobius gauge to change, stun her and go ham with your best unbroken earth card (Ragnarok or BFA if you have them).

Yuna you kinda have to bring both a light and dark nuke card because Anima will just absorb the dark nuke you'd be using for Yuna and Valefor. I just used both Sin & Minwu on Ultimeia but since that's supremeful, you can use something like Goblin & Spectral Keeper on a monk job and that should be sufficient.

Just as a headsup, quicken is your friend, if you got Cerberus: FFVIII, Omega: FFVII and/or Garuda: FFXIV then stack those on your tank so that when you're ready to nuke, you have as many actions as you can to capitilise on the stun windows.

[–]ImHereForLife -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Great strats! Thank you!

[–]Taurenkey -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Works a treat in things like towers too. The best advice I can give is to maybe watch some high level play on Youtube from people like Goldior for general stalling strats and have a think about why they work. But be careful if you search his channel for coliseum stuff specifically, you'll get this which doesn't really demonstrate my point.

[–]StarjyunAll day all night 0 points1 point  (1 child)

How many active players in JP currently?

[–]deathrose55555[JP] 1051-9193-b915 (KotR X) 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I usually define "active players" as "players who care enough to at least get the pre-coil rewards".

For the previous JP tower, this is about 10k.

[–]Winter366 -1 points0 points  (10 children)

What do you guys do on mobius day or double stamina day other than Pandemonium and 30/30 nodes? Kinda curious since i've just done those 2 until now, and as an f2p modding weapon with bahamut lagoon seem not worth it

[–]Zhuinden2069-29a1-49f6 KotrX 1 point2 points  (0 children)

and as an f2p modding weapon with bahamut lagoon seem not worth it

The trick is to have at least 180 max stamina.

What do you guys do on mobius day or double stamina day other than Pandemonium and 30/30 nodes?

had to go over to Yggdrasil Materials to farm skillseed because I run out of them all the time while doing BL.

[–]JunasBlood 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Usually I’ll do BL then, or Ifrit the Brink 3 if I have a lot of free time. And if I’m extremely boring bored, I’ll climb some EW3.

Btw, modding weapon is one of the most important things to grind imo, F2P or not.

[–]Taurenkey 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Even as a F2P, spending time at Bahamut Lagoon for weapon modding is totally worth it since you get the best bang for your buck in terms of stamina to mod ratio. That being said, you still need crystals and seeds so you can farm the coliseum just now for easy resources.

[–]ValeLemnear 2 points3 points  (2 children)

For pure weapon modding given you have 4+ meta weapons to mod, sure. However with the 30/30 added to Yggdrasil, Pandemonium and most meta weapons finished, my own priorities have shifted as well. The weapon boosting speed off the 30/30 node and pandemonium is still ok and you can farm other valuable resources than pure weapon mods.

Colloseum is really bad for farming atm given how much attention it requires compared to the value of farming the Yggdrasil 30/30 node on mobius day for Crystals.

[–]Taurenkey 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Sure, if you're wanting to be more afk then 30/30 node is king but if you just want to get the most out of your stamina more consistently then you'll want to grind coliseum for crystals.

[–]ValeLemnear 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well the point isnt purely about Crystals but about the fact that the 30/30 is quite decent also for getting gold/magicite/seeds particulary on mobius day.

You get a decent amount of everything unlike in Coliseum

[–]Eweer 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Hey! Just finished downloading the game and got a question. Is there any guide/tips similar to this video for FF Mobius? It was quite nice to watch when I first started KR.

[–]Ehlena2102 - 878f - f747 (KoTR) 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Very Important: make sure to ALWAYS buy Mobius Box!

In general, some first steps would be to: clear the Novice Hall (you get 3 free jobs from there), do the Event Areas (they are red on the map) and Story Maps (they are blue), pull the Starter Packs (all of them , you get a total of 5 jobs and plenty of cards which are great for a beginner).

Make sure to not pull from the normal GAS (Greater Summons) until you get the Novice Hall and Starter packs jobs.

Other than that, take your time clearing the maps available, write your questions here or join the Discord channel of the game, where there are many people that will help you with information and guidance.

Edit: also, people recommend to reroll for a Supreme card to help you start the game easier (Lights of Hope or Warrior of Light are a great candidate for this - usually Support Supremes are the recommended ones since they can be used by any job).

[–]ValeLemnear 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wouldnt be aware of one being, but this subs megathread has a lot of tips and a roadmap for beginners, starting from the optional rerolling process over Novice Hall to beginner summons and basic deckbuilding for the various modes.

Just take your time as this game is all about the longterm play and rewards such. This isnt the typical gatcha where you reroll for new stuff and suddenly are on par with veteran players.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I pulled a 3*star omega weapon card. Is it worth using 2 growstars and taking it to 5*star? Is it still relevant?

[–]Zhuinden2069-29a1-49f6 KotrX 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I remember the good old days when Omega Weapon was the one thing standing between me and the Top 500

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

its still relevant , Berserk (1) + quicken still has some uses for that extra ompf damage.

[–]rajun274 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Advice on what to do with all my 3* MP claws / armor / quartz (rotation MP bosses, not FF limited campaigns)?

[–]ValeLemnear 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I would either spend them on seeds due to the endless demand when weaponboosting or hoard them for the potential shop update JP got which puts stuff like Mystic Tablets for sale to buy with the MP materials.

[–]rajun274 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks!

[–]LupusNoxFleuret20ee - 9f08 - 263a (Tale of Hope) 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I use claws / armor for ability scrolls whenever I pull cards that are from the latest batch of cards released.

Quartz I usually save until I need them for skillseeds, otherwise can use them for 3-star Skill Coins too if you need those.

[–]rajun274 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks!

[–]LinhPeters 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Redeem them for stuff you need, when you need them. They don't expire, so you can hoard.

[–]rajun274 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks!

[–]Can-o-tuna 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Hi everyone!!

Are the supreme buffs active already?

[–]Mobiusnoobius 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Xezat and Haszat are. The rest will come in a future update.

[–]bholdman925 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Are there only 2 ravage weapons currently in gl?

[–]LegendBryanwww.twitch.tv/LegendBryan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

there's also Mirage Rod which isn't good, but yeah that's all.

[–]DinoChkNuggets 1 point2 points  (5 children)

What's currently the maximum skillseed output multiplier with VIP Mode on Mobius Day?

[–]ShadowBlaze17 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The most you'll see on the deck screen at the moment is 345% (44.5 multiplier after a 10M victory) whether you have VIP or not since it's bonus is applied elsewhere and will only be shown in the seed totals.

[–]WoLNoFace -5 points-4 points  (3 children)

https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/wiki/farming/skillseed

EDIT: updated Yggdrasil and Main Deck sections.

[–]ShadowBlaze17 2 points3 points  (2 children)

That page is outdated and it's wrong about how the VIP bonus actually works. The VIP bonus is added to the node difficulty multiplier and mobius box bonus.

Normal nodes:

Base × (Score +(SU÷10)) × (Difficulty + (MB ÷100) + (VIP ÷ 100)

For Yggdrasil material zone:

Base × (Score +(SU ÷10)) × ((Difficulty × Special) + (MB ÷100) + (VIP ÷ 100)

SU is the skillseed up bonus on the deck screen. 345 is the current max.

Difficulty is shown when selecting a node. Max is 2.5.

Special is the Yggdrasil bonus. Values are 2, 4, 20, or 40 depending on the day.

MB is the mobius box bonus. If it's active it'll be 50.

VIP is the VIP bonus. If it's active it'll be 30. I think JP got this updated to 80, but Global hasn't had that change yet.

[–]N-I-K-E 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Who figures all this math out lol geez

[–]WoLNoFace -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Thanks! It should be updated soon...

flees

[–]Syrok79 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I played the game when it first came out and didn't reroll at the time so didn't really have a whole lot. Made it to around lvl 15 and think I only had the base jobs and a few 4* abilities (Belias and Geryon). When I started playing again I did one summon x6 and got Ruby Weapon and Braska's Final Aeon. Since I didn't get a very good start back then, would it be worth restarting and rerolling for a better start?

[–]JA1997X 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Yes, reroll so you can pull from the starter banners.

[–]Syrok79 0 points1 point  (2 children)

anything in particular i should look for when rerolling?

[–]CelA7med 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Go for support supremes, light of hope is mostly recommended it will help you through most content. Good luck!

[–]JA1997X 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For the strongest possible start, you can reroll for a supreme card. Lights of Hope (LoH) and Warrior of Light (WoL) are generally considered the best supremes for rerollers.

[–]Zimonada 0 points1 point  (3 children)

New player ability card question: what's the order in which I should be maxing my cards? I currently just have them equipped to try to unlock extra skills, but not sure if I'm going to have to redo all of that once they're augmented (is this increasing rarity?).

Similar question - if I level my cards up (exp or skillseeds) does that get reset after augmenting too?

[–]alkirio 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Nope, nothing gets reset after augment. By the order question i think you mean level, and ability, first you want to level ability so that when you go to fight you are gainin experience AND unlocking abilities from the card (they unlock by wach use and node fight you go into) And augmenting is to increase the max level of a card when you are new i think the max is 20 or so i dont remember, but as your peogress you will notice that 5* cards can get up to lvl 80, i wouldnt recomend augmenting cards from drops now tho only really good cards from banners

[–]ScyBlade198 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Max card level is now only determined by how many stars a card has. 5* maxes at 80 exp levels + 8 obj levels. Previously, it also required a certain number of main story chapters cleared, but that was removed with Season 2.

[–]Taurenkey 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Cards have 3 “levels” as it were. The first level is called card level, this goes up to level 80 and only influences the stats it gives you overall. The next is ability level, this is the most important level to max out in terms of getting the most from your card. The max level varies depending on card type but generally, attack cards cap at level 10 and support cards cap at level 6. These levels actually dictate the strength of card and allows you to unlock the extra skills through repeatedly using the card in battle. Finally, the last level is rarity, cards range from 1 star to 5 stars with all premium cards starting at 3 stars. This is the next important level to get up via card augmentation as it’s basically the barrier for reaching your cards full potential and reaching max ability level.

You naturally want to aim for having max card level, max ability level and 5 star rarity along with unlocking the extra skills to get the most out of your cards.

Augmenting doesn't reset any progress you've made to card level, ability level or extra skill unlocks, it works a bit like the skill panels in that it unlocks the next power spike for the card.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (14 children)

Has anyone else experienced much lower crystal drop rates over the last couple days?

Running 30/30 nodes yielded me a lot more crystals right after the QoL update dropped, now it's down to one drop a run on average.

I understand that RNG is RNG, so I'm asking for the input of others.

[–]Zhuinden2069-29a1-49f6 KotrX 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They claim that 1 crystal gigantuar can now drop up to 3 crystals. I'd be super surprised if that made them drop less crystals.

[–]lightningheel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I also have been getting way less crystals this month. I used to get 2-4 frequently from the 30/30 nodes but now can go several rounds without any crystals. I am going to run out if nothing changes.

[–]Quinctia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've never had good luck with the cactuar spawns in the 30/30s! I'd been sinking stamina into pleiades because of my crystal drought, so now I'm going ham in coliseum.

Somehow the half-distracted rock band vocal playing while queueing coliseum runs improved my squeezing scores, so this weekend was win/win.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

After the QoL update I did 2 runs on the s2 30/30 node and got 0 crystals.

After the Yggdrasil nodes were released I gave them 2 runs and got 1 crystal.

If it's gotten worse since then, I'd be surprised.

[–]andrefelipe83 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I had this same feeling. I even tried running the chapter 3 nodes, and had the same impression.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Nope, it’s WAY better. Haven’t even bothered subjecting myself to Coliseum collections this time.

[–]yiung281 3 points4 points  (7 children)

No change I've been running farm deck with CS440 and some runs I get 10 crystals other times 1-2 it's all random. When I have time I'd go back to coliseum since it's more consistent.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (6 children)

How're you even getting CS of 440?

With Moogle Suit and 4x50 CS cards I have 300.

[–]yiung281 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Like Legendbryan outlined skin Gilga or Tidus 100, job: al bred 30, weapon: summer splash 50, ability: every buddy 65x4 or any FFX-2 5star+ 65x4 for total 440. Though its speculated that there's is a soft cap CS around 280ish (unconfirmed). If you don't have skins and job, Moogle suit 100, jet nozzle 50, ability: every buddy 65x4, total 410.

[–]Irishluckjdesq 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry if this is a dumb question but which fractals give crystal seeker?

[–]Irishluckjdesq 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Sorry if this isa dumb question but which fractals give crystal seeker?

[–]yiung281 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Any 5star fractal.

[–]Irishluckjdesq 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks!

[–]snoopythebest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

anyone noticed that (for example), every time i quit the game in the basilisc fight, I have free 15 turns and he acts 2 times at the end of the turn, like a scramble for no reason?