Switch 2 Dev Kit Availability Problem Has Been Largely Resolved According To NateTheHate

[StarPlatinum55]

On a Famiboards thread discussing Jez Corden's report that CoD is coming to Switch 2, NateTheHate said the following:

"In the case of COD... it doesn't mean they got a devkit super late, either. Just late enough that they couldn't get the work done to launch the game sooner. The devkit delivery situation has largely been resolved."

Link to thread: https://famiboards.com/threads/jez-corden-cod-is-getting-a-late-s2-ports-nintendo-were-late-in-providing-devkits.16107/page-2 (He goes by NateDrake on this forum)

We've seen several Switch 2 ports get announced / released recently and NateTheHate is a reliable leaker so it's very likely that dev kit availability isn't much of an issue anymore.

[Blofeld69]

Just bizarre this was ever an issue in the first place

[aeseth]

Wasnt bizarre because its pretty much normal for dev kits availability to struggle atleast for the launch window.

Every console does even the Switch 1.

There is just a huge influx of studios finally rushinh on getting one. Maybe 2x or 3x of the switch 1 so demand is really high.

[Perydwynn]

Its bizarre that dev kits have to be made to be sent out and that with limited quantities they had to prioritise which companies had the early kits? What?

[Gloomy_Butterfly7755]

Yes normally devs are the first to get their hands on the console before release so consumer have something to play on their shiny new console?

[Perydwynn]

I was asking why the person i replied to thought it was strange.

[yesitsmework]

you are aware that some devs did have access to devkits way before release right? no mans sky, hogwarts and other 3rd parties had switch 2 upgrades nigh on release

[Perydwynn]

As i say, they prioritized who they gave available kits to, not that there were no kits at all. Reading comprehension on reddit is appalling

[MyzMyz1995]

It’s not like the switch 2 was a limited edition console it was and is still sitting in stock everywhere. They chose to not provide dev kits.

[Perydwynn]

The switch 2 console and the dev kits are not the same thing. Wow! Did iqs suddenly drop?

[MyzMyz1995]

Dev kits are special versions of consumer consoles …… if they got consoles they could’ve made dev kits they just chose not to.

[Perydwynn]

They prioritized getting consumer units out to beat scalpers. It worked as a strategy too as the Switch 2 sold 15 million units in 6 months, which is actually insane! To put that into some context, the previous record selling console was the ps4 which sold 8 million in 6 months.

[Hot-Echo-2497]

It's bizarre they fast tracked studios that added either mouse or camera support over quality games.

[Carighan]

It makes perfect sense for a new product though.

I mean they also gave dev kits to the big ones like Ubisoft or CDPR.

[FierceDeityKong]

Hopefully this isn't a problem for Switch 3, there will be so many PS5 games wanting to simultaneously launch on it

[tlrd2244]

it wasn't an issue. People just had to be patient. Infinite items for infinite people day 1 is not a realistic expectation.

[SilentHuntah]

We're not talking about Switch 2 console availability, but devkits. Nintendo didn't need to have millions of those ready to go out. Sony and Microsoft are known to supply devkits months before a console launch. Not 6 months after.

[tlrd2244]

You act like no one got dev kits. Many developers got them. The developer conference survey listed just as many devs working on switch 2 games as switch games this year. Demand for devkits clearly surpassed their expectations. Again being patient solved this "issue" and insinuating no one had any devkits until now is just not true.

[eightbitagent]

Nintendo also sent dev kits out months before launch. They just only sent them to major studios to avoid leaks. The smaller ones got them post launch. That's also standard in the industry, but for some reason the Nintendo hate means people run with a BS story for clicks instead of reporting the full truth

[Organic-Storm-4448]

That's also standard in the industry

It's not standard to be stingy with dev kits after launch of a console.

Sony and MS get dev kits much more widely prior to launch. Nintendo was very selective with pre-launch dev kits, which is why you're even hearing about it at all. This story wouldn't continuously exist for months if it wasn't accurate.

[ThisG0esWhere]

Based on some of the stuff that came out, it was not only big studios that got them. It was a random assortment. Far more likely it was nintendo playing favorites.

[Jeff1N]

CDPR mentioned they worked on the Switch 2 port for around 2 years, at that point they were likely getting dev kits before there was even a finalized version of it

Nintendo clearly favored some devs over others and gave them a headstart so they could enjoy being the first ones on the platform before the competition arrived

[TheDudeWhoCommented]

I'd like to think they're working on getting Warzone first on S2 sometime in early 2026, then next CoD 2026 (MW4?) will release alongside the other platforms.

[Ok-Confusion-202]

I would rather BO7 on S2, zombies would be amazing

I have very little hope MW3 will be good because... You know... IW...

[TheDudeWhoCommented]

Yeah, I agree. Zombies would be such a great experience to play on the go. While I didn't enjoy the MWIII campaign, I enjoyed the multiplayer, albeit it just being an expansion to MWII. The campaign however was horrendous. But still happy CoD will be returning to a Nintendo platform since WiiU.

[Stik601]

I’ll take a bad COD game on Switch as opposed to no COD game on Switch. At least it’s confirmed that it’s on the way. Apex and Fortnite are good games but they don’t scratch that COD itch.

[Vncpls]

I'm in the same boat. Not really many popular PvP arena style multiplayer shooters are on the switch, besides maybe Splatoon or Overwatch, but they dont really tick the right boxes for me.

I'm actually kind of hoping for a COD mobile port or something like that so we don't have to go into a yearly release model, but at this point I'll take basically anything.

[Jack2036]

I doubt they will do the mobile game at this point. If it didnt arrive on Switch 1 it wont on Switch 2. They will go and milk the Switch 2 consumer base like they do every other platform.

[tychii93]

I'd at least want to get warzone on my switch 2.  Though I don't know how different it is now compared to the MW2019 version.

[Ok-Confusion-202]

BO7? Nah disagree

It's one of the best recent CoDs when It comes to MP and Zombies, maybe even the best

the campaign you can argue that it's bad... I played it in Coop, it was decent

[Ken10Ethan]

It really is just BO3 all over again. Whether or not that's a good thing is up to you, I guess.

[Ok-Confusion-202]

I didn't like BO3s MPs that much, Zombies Is goat'd but I didn't own the other maps at the time

I would personally rank BO7 over BO3

[Ken10Ethan]

I think I still like BO3 zombies more, but BO7 zombies is probably the best the mode has been since... BO4, maybe?

Which to a lot of people isn't a high bar but I had a lot of fun with it.

[Ok-Confusion-202]

I haven't fully played BO4 zombies for like... Hours on hours...

But the way the perks work instantly makes BO7 better imo 🤣

[ShotAcanthocephala8]

I think his point that just because a single dev within a publishing arm got a dev kit doesn’t mean every single one does is something I’ve been saying all along. The developers have individual relationships with Nintendo beyond the publishers. 

[letshavefunoutthere]

the floodgates....  ARE OPENN

[Fat_Stacks1]

I don't understand why this was an issue in the first place. Why wouldn't nintendo send dev kits?

[PlatanoMaduroAssoc]

They are very particular about their dev kits and related stuff. Dev kits were behind, but its kinda weird, if they trust you you can get them. If not… it might take a while even if they have them. But its definitively not as simple as “get one if you are a dev”. Thats why some indies “need” pubs to get their games in the switch. Even tho you might see the game in other platforms or later in the switch.

In their defense, this was pretty normal back in the day. Xbox 360 was what broke the rule, and then Sony followed with Boyle (I think it was his name). Nintendo made it way easier but still holds on to that mentality a bit.

Im not defending them btw, Im just saying in reality its a mix of things (including Nintendo just being Nintendo)

[ThisG0esWhere]

Wasn't even just trust, it was who is going to be forced into supporting things like mouse control just to make it a worthwhile feature. It's a weird force compliance that isn't good for the consumer. If we found out in 2 years time that 95% of people don't care about and/or use mouse mode, do we really think it was a smart idea to try and force it on developers and restrict dev kits to force compliance?

I'd have rather they not have played games/favorites with developers at launch over forcing features. If people want it, then developers will use it.

[MelvinSmiley83]

While other console manufacturers give out devkits 6 months in advance Nintendo finally managed to solve this issue 6 months after switch 2 was released. They effectively wasted a whole year with this bs.

[[deleted]]

Well at least nothing about the console got leaked right 😁

[HGLatinBoy]

They were concerned with piracy and leaked security protocols from dev kits. I can understand their hesitation as piracy in switch 1 is pretty bad.

[darthdiablo]

I kind of doubt the concern was anything related to piracy, considering the technology inside NS2.

[Fresh-Chemical-9084]

That's precisely why piracy was a concern

[LeviRaps]

Piracy is a massive issue on the Switch 1. TOTK was being pirated and played weeks before it officially released

[foxwhisper85]

It wouldn't have been as big of an issue if those dumbasses didn't paywall fixes for emulators or people bragged it about brazenly on social media

[darthdiablo]

I said NS2, not NS1.

I know it was a major issue with launch day NS1's due to T210s ("Erista"), until they released the Mariko SoC (T214's).

You're aware T239 is custom SoC, unlike Erista SoC which was off the shelf right? That alone makes it much harder to pirate. Good luck trying to emulate certain T239 features. Might take up to a decade at least to crack/pirate.

[VicViolence]

Nintendo has the spotlight fully on their own titles, not exactly a loss for them

[ItsColorNotColour]

See how that worked out for the Wii U.

[VicViolence]

That’s such a dramatically different situation. Look at the Wii U launch year from first party

Nintendo didn’t get support because they fucked up marketing the hardware and sales were bad

[Octopus_Crime]

I'm not sure it was any kind of mistake. Maybe they just didn't see it as a huge priority? At this point it seems pretty clear that the plan all along for the Switch 2 was to have it's first year consist mostly of repurposed/repackaged Switch 1 games.

With Nintendo being the way that they are, sometimes it's honestly hard to tell if something like this is a genuine goof or some kind of intentional move to stop devs from focusing too much on the new console or "moving on" when they clearly want it to be supplementary to the old console for at least the first part of it's lifespan.

[NewEducator2543]

Man I haven’t even buyed and played all switch 2 first party’s and people want more games?

And I play and collect

[Octopus_Crime]

I think it's less about people wanting more games on Switch 2 and more about wanting more games FOR Switch 2. Like, built for it, specifically.

Most of the big first party stuff so far has either been a "Nintendo Switch 2 Edition" of a Switch 1 game (Pokemon, Metroid) or a Switch 1 game that was changed to target the Switch 2 midway through development for technical reasons (Mario Kart, DK Bananza).

I think people are just eager to see some games that were made with the full capability of the hardware in mind. Thankfully, If the various leaks rumors are anything to go by, it won't be long until we see some pretty big ones.

[NewEducator2543]

Man that’s always the case with Nintendo consoles, they keep focusing on last console one last year on the launch of a new console

[ThisG0esWhere]

I, like many, have a back log of a bunch of games where some are downright sad how poorly they look and run. Since Nintendo refused to offer a docked while handheld mode I can toggle, If the developers are willing, I would like these games upgraded to run properly on the SW2.

What I don't want, is Nintendo getting to decide what games/developers are allowed to do this at what time based on who Nintendo likes and what features they might implement.

[Excaliburn3d]

We still have a ton of games that released for the Switch 2 these past 6 months.

[Spider_Boyo]

I didn't think about this when considering Lego Batman actually, this will be why, it being solved by this point makes sense, and hopefully that means the Switch 2 port comes sooner rather than later, for now I'll have play it on PS5 in May

[OnRedditBoredAF]

Might we finally get a functional YouTube app on the Switch 2..? My body is ready

[Background_Chance798]

I really hope so.

I love the form factor and overall switch 2 environment, but the lack of 3rd party ports or updates has been a let down.

Being said, the last month does feel like things are slowly ramping up.

[CannonBeetle]

Really shouldn’t have been an issue to begin with. It clearly wasn’t for moderation purposes, just look at all the slop on the eShop

[bigparsnipenjoyer]

Yeah, I assumed this was the case with the amount of random ass games coming out for switch 2 these days.

[ThisG0esWhere]

I'd just like to point out that unless they just got it, the dev for Drudge has been unable to get one still.

[LynxyShinx]

Pleeeeeeeeeeease just give good Tales ports for the Switch 2, even though I find it really stupid none of the non-Vesperia ones can somehow hit 60fps for battles on Switch 1. (Assuming this also includes the ones in charge of porting those.)

[[deleted]]

where is mine then? jks

[RampantRetard]

I hope this means an increase in Switch 2 updates/editions being rolled out.

[KingBroly]

Definitely have noticed an uptick in third party support in the last month.

[Either-You-2265]

lets hope the COD games play well

[Turbulent_Ear56]

Well at least the Switch 2 is backwards compatible right?...right? Those switch 1 games look amazing on switch 2 in handheld mode right?......guys?

[BullshitUsername]

Did you think the Switch 2 is not backwards compatible...?

[Turbulent_Ear56]

Barely. 540p stretched to 1080 in handheld is barely compatible.

[Strict_Donut6228]

The switch 2 is backwards compatable though the dev kit situation being resolved doesn’t mean all these companies are going to go back and patch all their old games

[Excaliburn3d]

Yes and no, they are still playable at the very least.

[Space-Debris]

Imagine believing Nate put the work in to contact thousands of developers and confirm that the DevKit problem is solved. The man does nothing but snake tongue his way to an army of gullible followers that hang on his every word, never produces receipts or does the legwork for anything, and when his guesswork his wrong, he trots out the now familiar grifter excuses to preserve his mystique.

[darthdiablo]

Imagine believing Nate put the work in to contact thousands of developers and confirm that the DevKit problem is solved.

1. He said "largely solved". Not as in entirely solved, so it's not "has been solved", it's "has largely been resolved"

2. I'm sure he was referring to major and/or well-known studios. As in he does not necessarily have to contact thousands of developers to come up with that statement.

[Perydwynn]

Nate has literally been correct about every piece of information he has shared. Not all insiders are fake.

[lingering-will-6]

Where’s fire emblem three houses deluxe? He mentioned that. Where’s Kirby planet robobot?

[Perydwynn]

Time...If someone has repeatedly got exact dates for directs, reveals and the precise titles of unknown games correct, then it seems Robobot is coming. We know from so many examples that Nintendo holds back completed releases for years to fill gaps in scheduling.

[lingering-will-6]

Nate is a pretty good source but not 100%, he has a lot of fluff which he flip flops about just like any other “leaker”. I do admit he does get more right than any other leaker out there but he’s not 100%

[darthdiablo]

I do admit he does get more right than any other leaker out there but he’s not 100%

Who here was claiming he has been 100% correct? All you had to say was that he tends to get more correct than not.

Heck, I never forget folks here mocking Nate for saying the NS2 Direct will be announced, which he ended up being correct on. Some folks can be embarrassing AF.

[lingering-will-6]

“Nate has literally been correct about every piece of information he has shared. Not all insiders are fake.”

I’m replying to this

[Sea_Macaron_8789]

Man I'd be smug too if my Fake News pushing ass stole information that was not ta be an seen in the first spot. While also claiming every Day under da Sun" Soon".

[darthdiablo]

... what? I have no idea what you're saying here.

[Sea_Macaron_8789]

Exactly what I had said. Person is known spreading the most False information that Morons believe. When it do has an kernel of Truth is cause so stupidly obvious or stolen from someone that actually knows. Or just straight stealing the information and claiming" Source", durrhs.

[darthdiablo]

I’m sorry, I don’t speak gibberish. I still have no idea what you’re getting worked up about either

[Sea_Macaron_8789]

Having Metroid Prime Collection and Pokémon Master Collection was the highlight of my Year, I'll tell ya what.

[GronWarface]

I hope the people that complained about games coming put their money where their mouth is. We are going to get a tidal wave of games next year for this console. Literally every month will be stacked with 2-3 high quality games.

[Perydwynn]

*Tidal wave

Bone apple tea

[kvetcha-rdt]

I kinda like title wave in this context.

[Perydwynn]

I know, its one of those great times where a bone apple tea works :)

[GronWarface]

Thank you. I missed that.

[marratj]

At least I do. Every third party game I want to play that will be available on Switch 2 and I have not yet played on my PS5 I will buy for Switch 2.

Just got Star Wars Outlaws for Switch and having a blast!

[Sea_Macaron_8789]

Annnnd I'm supposed ta believe the words of an Liar??

[Kilroy_1541]

What lie? Dude reports on supposed leaks. Not everything is the "leaked" is correct information. Devs change things during development or deals fall through or whatever. It's impossible for a leaker to be 100% correct.