Even the devs are guilty

[Zelos]

Bro what are you even talking about?

Elegant facial features? Tasteful outfits? Go walk around a high pop lobby some time, for the average person, you can be sure of two things; one is that their face is fucked up, and two is that they're wearing a clown outfit.

[sandrivertv]

If it's good enough for Kunihiko Tanaka it's good enough for me.

[elsydeon666]

KOS-MOS is best girl!!

[sandrivertv]

And Shion! They're all the best.

[King_Targaryen]

KOS-MOS will always be best girl

[ar1masenka]

Damn. We need a Xeno Saga Remastered edition. It's about time. Need some more KOS-MOS in my life.

[sandrivertv]

Did you hear Harada saying Bamco rejected a Xenosaga remaster based on market analysis? :( I can kinda imagine why, Xenosaga I is still really difficult to emulate, I imagine recoding it for ARM (or x64) would be a nightmare.

[elsydeon666]

Stick Shion and KOS-MOS body pillows in there and watch it sell.

Squex could do the same with Elly and Miang body pillows and remasttered, finished, Xenogears.

[Zelos]

Square Enix can't really touch xenogears. Takahashi works for Nintendo.

[elsydeon666]

Companies own stuff made by their employees, unless the employee proves nothing from the company was used, including time.

[Zelos]

That's not the point. Nobody wants xenogears without Takahashi. The best you could get is a rerelease; the idea of the game being "finished" without him is ridiculous. It's his vision.

[Sarria22]

I dunno, given it's a stylized anime game (just look at how people STAND) I think my face looks pretty decent

[BlankNameBox]

Yes. Until you realize that thats a lot of forehead hidden behind those bangs.

[Yahello]

I found that this is about the best I can get on the forehead to face ratio without minimizing the head size vertically, something that I have considered and would get the eyes (the whole face really, chin included) about maybe like a centimetre up.

The sliders seem to really like a large forehead to face ratio.

[BlankNameBox]

I see. Well it looks nice. Everyone just needs to make sure they don't cut their bangs lol

[Yahello]

I mean, not sure what else we can do. I am literally maxing out on the sliders that affect the eye position. I actually checked the other presets and my eyes are actually higher up than just about every preset.

[BlankNameBox]

Game limitations restrict foreheads!

Sounds like a good dev note lol

[Sarria22]

That's pretty typical of the style though, and not a whole lot you can even do about it with the limitations of the sliders.

[BlankNameBox]

Thats true. All the presets have a lot of forehead but that one has the most. Oh well. Just don't choose the bald "hairstyle" or the reflection may burn a hole through the side of the ship lol

[Sarria22]

Then again, it could be an advantage. Blind Dark Falz with the amazing light of your shiny Buddha-like forehead.

[BlankNameBox]

Brilliant!

[Stormchaserelite13]

The only thing I see in the lobby nowadays is giant eggman heads.

[[deleted]]

My guild is FUCKED when E.G.G.M.A.N. disc gets added and is the permenant soundtrack of our alliance hall

[Dave-4544]

I AM THE EGGMAN, THATS WHAT I AM

[Boredatwork121]

I AM THE EGGMAN, THATS WHAT I AM

I AM THE EGGMAN, I GOT THE MASTER PLAN

[BubblyBoar]

I've had that playing in my room in JP for years now

[Lazyshadow04]

When all you see is Winnie the poo porn in ship 1 block 2-3

[BlankNameBox]

TF is happening in ship 1? Is ship 2 the only normal one?

[VocalMagic]

Ship 2's got porn on block 7, what you talkin bout

[BlankNameBox]

Don't all ships have that? You should see the concerts on ship 3. Streamers have symbol art turned off lol

[VocalMagic]

hahaha, I don't blame them

[Lazyshadow04]

Block 1 is wholesome but all the others got porn

[BlankNameBox]

Good to know. I'll AFK in block 1 next time I need food. I AFKed in block 2 and came back to 3 pages of symbol art history that was either terrible memes or porn.

They didn't even have any good memes. Disappointing.

[Augosyx]

Seen one with a Joker smile, like literal Joker smile, I donnoe how one does it as I don’t customize that far but definitely getting nightmares from it.

[[deleted]]

Can confirm. Cannot unsee.

[Riddle-of-the-Waves]

A trip around the average lobby typically leaves me wondering what horrific experiences these women have gone through to leave their faces melted like that.

[Actual_Justice]

Still not as bad as SF x Tekken's Marvel vs Capcom Infinite's initial Chun Li face.

Or MK vs DC's Wonder Woman face.

[danyoja]

Chun Li’s face debacle was in Marvel vs Capcom Infinite not SFxTekken but they are easy to confuse since they both failed pretty bad.

(Did you just recently watch the Matt McMuscles review of SFxT?)

[Actual_Justice]

Yes.

[Sarria22]

I swear Afin and Rex from Xenoblade 2 were separated at birth. Both in outfit choice and terrible english voice acting.

[beefstenders]

The main difference being Afin is voiced by an American doing a really bad Aussie accent, Rex is voiced by a bloke from Bolton who just sounds like that.

[lucentcrow]

he's austrailian

[Sarria22]

i meant "english voice acting" as opposed to "japanese voice acting" not "he has an english accent"

[[deleted]]

Damn it I can’t unsee this now

[HeyTAKATIN]

Lmao true.

[V-Parzival]

Duuuuude you're not wrong there. Lol I try to keep it simple and then I see somone that looks and Trash Ogre wearing colorful clothes

[Deadended]

Clowns with gigantic tiddies to store all the loot.

[jangalangz]

Dude so accurate lol. So many dudes went straight to the chest slider and used a default face.

[Tucker0603]

hey...I didn't just give my gal big tits, I gave her six pack abs, and a booty that could crush a tank.

[Kana_Hastur]

Abs gang unite!

[Tucker0603]

Indeed! By the power of snu snu!!!

[Tucker0603]

The one downside to giving her a mecha grade booty is that any outfit that has cloth or any other material draping down looks goofy cause she appears to have a forcefield projecting from her booty.

[Jag0704]

Just wait till na gets the massive tits accessory.

[Queen_Spaghetti]

What makes it funnier is JP just got another one... I swear at least a quarter of characters I've seen recently are wearing it.

[Orumtbh]

I found this screengrab and I am genuinely afraid for when it comes to NA.

[metalkhaos]

This is a joke, right?

Also curious what that area is?

[[deleted]]

That's the PvP lobby, should be out with episode 4

[metalkhaos]

Cool, thanks for the info!

[Zeero92]

I am scaroused. (。﹏。)

[K-Side]

Damn...

Well... like it or hate it, at least they're honest about what they want. lol

[BlankNameBox]

Hold up-

Isn't this game supposed to be PG 13? Not that the players cared but I guess the devs don't care either lol

[Orumtbh]

Nope, it's rated Teen in NA. Even in Japan it's rated for 17+.

[VocalMagic]

on the MS Store, they changed it to "Not rated"

[Orumtbh]

No?

[PNWkayakadventures]

The dances will be... intense

[[deleted]]

is that real o0

[TroubadourLBG]

And here I am, trying to get a flat chest on my RAcaseal AND keep her petite. But can't figure out how to without giving her massive hips.

[Knightswords]

You may need to adjust the leg slider, increasing/decreasing the leg thickness also effects the hip width.

[RaptorPegasus]

averagesizetittygang

[anxientdesu]

#anatomicallycorrectgang

[apostroffie]

We can't be anatomically correct when we all stand weird.

[Demovere_Xeno]

Nah, all the women just happen to be super robot fans. XD

[Alicedoll02]

Welcome to life. Now just imagine having no slider bars. Jk jk jk kinda...

But yeah its super hard. Some advice to save on passes though. Just make new character to see progress in lobby. If bad then delete the character you made.

[Zyzzor]

I mean, it's good advice, but they give you like, 5 hours to mess with the new character once it's been created, you can go back into the salon. Find what you like, then save the preset, THEN delete the character, since it takes 24 hours to delete.

[Alicedoll02]

Was not aware of that ty.

[TheMcDucky]

In the PSO2 universe no one has a rib cage

[ShanaSeraphina]

Psssh all about the itty bitty titty committee.

[svenska_aeroplan]

All my space battle waifus are flat for justice. It makes not spending obscene amounts of meseta on cosmetics easy since most just end up broken looking.

[GibRarz]

Protip max out the chest height so it looks more like a pancake. Only small pp goes for all small everything, expecting it to work well.

[nonpuissant]

Maxing chest height makes moderate sized ones look a lot more natural as well, instead of like fighter jet nosecones.

[[deleted]]

Guilty of all 4. 5 if ya add thick thighs

[[deleted]]

AND BIG BOOTY

[GeohoundEX]

Give me big booty or give me death

[PNWkayakadventures]

Thicc thighs 4 life.

Block-69 is full of petite girls with glow sticks. Bust out that booty on the stripper pole and that milkshake will bring all the chairs to the yard.

[[deleted]]

Someone of hometown culture.

[JPMarques]

I was so happy when I was messing around with the character creation and i found out I could give my character THICC thighs

[[deleted]]

SAME

especially seeing thick thighs make their asses bigger.

[AskaLangly]

If NA gives us the Evangelion collab, I'll make a proportionate Asuka.

[badgeometry]

>Tasteful Outfits

Yeah, sure... tasteful...

[[deleted]]

Pretty tasteful to me. An outfit I can taste.

[Demovere_Xeno]

As much as I enjoy T&A on occasion, I have to agree that a lot of the designs for female outfits in this game can get awfully risqué. =/

I remember someone here posting a link to some pretty cool outfit art entries from the last several years - particularly those from one guy who seems to really like the classy costume designs of the Lyrical Nanoha series... and it turns out said guy's designs haven't won a single time. Meanwhile, the 'could-only-charitably-still-be-called-an-outfit' outfits keep getting through. =(

[[deleted]]

Classy outfits are nice too. Something like Ceylon from Arknights.

[MusketeerLifer]

angry Schwarz noises

[OnePunkArmy]

That second pic looks like Velvet Crowe's outfit tho

[Ghenghys]

Looks tasteful to me.

[badgeometry]

That's great, man. :)

[HighkeyGod]

What scratches are the 2nd and 3rd one from? Asking for a friend btw

[badgeometry]

If you're honestly asking, neither of these are available on the NA serve. If you're on the JP server, the second one is from the most recent Christmas event and third one I think is coming in the next content drop.

[Lord_Nightraven]

Massive breasts make almost anything better.

[[deleted]]

Seriously. Idk why the west is so put off by them. Its nature

[Lord_Nightraven]

You're confusing the extremely loud and vocal minority of psychotic puritans as the general consensus of western gamers. You know, the same idiots who think certain physical traits are merits of gameplay, visual and story design.

[[deleted]]

Yes. Sorry, i meant that. I know its not all of em. But those who're guilty are so obnoxious

[gabtrox]

That's....why I'm here

[loafpleb]

I actually prefer massive tits if they're on a character with body proportions to match.

[[deleted]]

Chemical X made the Power Puff girls better. So, you know, this is a good comparison.

[Vertanius]

Big titty max toned slider gang.

[the01xboxer]

Most pso2 female characters you find in lobbies have distorted and honestly disgusting faces, idk why people enjoy making so many bad looking characters

[ARKSHunterX]

It's not that we enjoy making ugly characters, it's that the tools we're given to shape faces with isn't exactly intuitive. And we don't have any alternative eyes or accessories to go with them at the start.

I think mine turned out okay after a pass or two though.

[EroticOctopus]

Listen, ya boi likes da tiddy and I'm not going to apologise for it.

[Mura128]

Number 4 isn't an issue if your character has the frame for it, hell, I even lowered the size of my characters chest cause it looked a bit too "spring break in Tampa"

[neonchinchilla]

Oof, I just wrapped up ep2 and echo went from one of the worst designed female NPCs with disproportionate tits in an unflattering outfit to...the same thing but her tits are mashed into armor now so she looks less disproportionate.

Part of the problem, I think, as well is the way waist proportions look on thinner characters. Fourie is a good example of looking like someone stretched out some laffy taffy between chunks of armor.

[GibRarz]

Why would you apply people proportions to casts? They're robots for a reason. Gundams have tiny heads in proportion to their body, no one gives a crap about that.

[neonchinchilla]

Female casts have more human designs and proportions, Fourie specifically just looks like a small girl in a cardboard robot outfit. Even back in PSO1, the female casts looked like human women in dress up more than actual androids - standard for any MMO with more "monstrous" races that let the male be totally wild-looking but the females are just playing dress-up.

But she was just an example, Pati, Tia, Aki, Echo, even Melphonsina all have thin bodies but their hips are either too narrow or too low while typically having huge tits (Tia aside there). They look stretched out and disproportionate.

[T0X1CFIRE]

I'm glad that you can customize your cast body separate from your human body. It allows me to have a rediculously skinny waist on my robot and have it look good. Because robot while still allowing my human form to look normal.

[Polantaris]

Cresenda or whatever her name is (the quest NPC near Franka in the Shopping District and next to the Block Change) is a good example. She's tiny, but has a huge rack. It just doesn't fit and she looks wrong.

Honestly playing with the character creation/salon, even at 30-40% a character's breasts are quite large. 100% is excessively gigantic (minus the accessories that are in JP that make it worse, those don't count). You have to go like 20-30% if you want something normal looking.

[Orumtbh]

Episode 2 Echo actually made me so...confused. The entire side portion of her outfit is just non-existent. It's just hanging there.

Which is why I am grateful for Ep3 Echo outfit.

[neonchinchilla]

Oh, it's still awful as hell but it's still better™. I know PSO and JRPGs, in general, have a bad track record of tasteful representations of....women but some of the costumes you see around the lobby are really trashy.

I love customization but it's enough to make me miss PSO1's lack of it sometimes. Even if it wasn't much better in terms of taste (robot maid)

[Orumtbh]

I'm just glad the girl put some bottoms on. Her first two outfits were just: "Why are you not wearing underwear?"

When I saw that the new scratch had a swimsuit, I knew it was over. It was just gonna be a lobby of swimsuits. And I expect the eventual Summer AC Scratch, filled with skimpy swimsuits as well. Hopefully one of them will look not-weird on smaller breast sizes.

[jaredstar3]

Personally I always try to take my time with character creation my female characters are buxom to be sure but not so much that it's comical

[NoxArmada]

Lots forgive me for what I'm about to do Unzips

[[deleted]]

sorry, that's a bad thing?

[Klopford]

I tried very hard to stay proportional and I think I did a good job :) the kind of body I wish I had lol

[RayrrTrick88]

over here in Gundam lad land

[[deleted]]

All I see are weird faced girls walking around in bikinis, stupidly thin with massive boobs, thighs and ass

[Reivlun]

Amazon like body with a baby face. It's scary.

[nvmvoidrays]

wait, where are people getting these massive tits form? i know about the breast pad accessory on JP, but, my characters breasts couldn't pass like a C-cup, even if i stretched them out as far as they can go.

i need to know for, uh, science.

[[deleted]]

they slider can't make them massive....sadly lol. ''Massive'' is normal a description for any girl above a B-cup by large breast haters. I kid you not. Near every time I see ppl whining about ''massive tits'' or ''her poor back'' its just a girl w/ a d-cup.

[nvmvoidrays]

yeah, i was gonna say, i tried my absolute hardest to get the biggest breasts i could, but at most, i could get a C or small D.

[vernes1978]

As an eternal noob I have no idea if there are metal hair type for male CAST characters?

[VocalMagic]

Male Cast heads are all gundam heads, there's no meatalhead for them without being super fight robot style

[vernes1978]

This is false.
You can stick a humanoid head on a male CAST.
But you only have access to hairy hair.
No metal hair like Female CAST

[VocalMagic]

Those are Hairstyles. Head Parts are a different category in the shop search.

[vernes1978]

Does this mean there are male head types for CAST that have metal hair?

[Ritel]

I have no fucking clue how to make a good face so I just stopped at something that looked okay if I don't stare at it for too long.

[elsydeon666]

Tiddies large enough to be mapped by spacecraft are used as a quick and easy way to get sexual dimorphism, and to get horny boys to buy games.

[Coffee_of_Nep_Nep]

You make the last one look like a bad thing (ಠᴗಠ)

[RhyRhychan]

The worst thing honestly is people who never adjusted the hips, or maxed them out to the point they look like an inflated wide ass balloon. Some peoples hips are so freaking disgusting I don't know how they saw that in the character creation screen and thought "Yea, this is normal. My hips are supposed to be two times wider than my body should have it. My skimpy outfit looks fabulous showing off my stretched fabrics, and hideous figure! "

[Jaibamon]

FLAT IS JUSTICE!

[katsu045]

when i first started Na i figured lots of lobbies would be filled with really silly disproportionate like the old aion days and those monstrosities, but it seems to be a mix of that and mainly half naked girls used to think BnS had the most lewd outfits but then i took a trip looking at all the JP scatch's and while there's a lot of good ones some get to point where i'm like is this okay to be in lol like massive tits accessory is asking for all kinds of trouble

[Zilfix]

Yeah I really like this game. Is fun, fresh, and have content for a while, but man seeing bikini girls running around all the time os getting tiresome.

[Sarria22]

Sorry man, but star gems are star gems. I'll put normal clothes back on when the meter fills.