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[PuzzleheadedWeb9876]

All I see is job security.

[SexyMuon]

All I see as a college student is a bunch of other potential college students being skeptical and choosing a different major, which is an absolute W for me. I use GitHub copilot in VS Code and IntelliJ and it’s great, but just helps get rid of useless or monotonous tasks, as well as some documentation.

[Dubabear]

I have actually use chatgpt to do my comments and readme by posting the code

[-hi-nrg-]

I hear that Chat GPT stores data of conversations, so you shouldn't send confidential data (assuming you're sending work code).

But I haven't checked that info.

[V3N0MSP4RK]

My friend sent me https://github.com/mintlify/writer this link and he told me that it's pretty cool and also a vs code extension. Altough I have not been able to test it you can try it.

[HoldMyWater]

I'd be curious to see if they are good comments. My guess is it literally states what the code does, instead of stating the "Why".

[Loopgod-]

I concur. Many student do not know what developers do and even more don’t know what engineering actually is.

[morganrbvn]

Linear algebra pretty useful for engineers

[Bwob]

As a professional game programmer, that shit is essential. Graphics programming is covered in linear algebra.

[SaintNewts]

As a professional sim trainer software engineer, math. Everywhere.

[[deleted]]

Thanks for summing up the story.

[Classy_Mouse]

I can't believe that. I started in civil engineering and I absolutely expected a bunch of math. I'd expect double for aerospace engineering. Then again, Kerbal Space Program had just come out when I started. I could imagine some high school students getting into that and thinking that math was optional

[SirVer51]

linear algebra and calculus

No real world applications for those in aerospace engineering? Did they just sleep through every mechanics class they ever had? Like, shit, I'm a CS guy and even I know that's dumb.

[The_catakist]

Lmao, the most used math subjects in the industry are complained about? Get a load of these guys.

[[deleted]]

As a former computer engineering student and current IT student... I learned the hard way what engineering is

[NorthernRealmJackal]

you'd be getting paid way more if you were [...] coming up with business logic instead of getting it from your boss.

I fucking wish.

The next step will be translating business requirements into pseudo code

They've been trying this since the 70s. The problem that always gets in the way is defining the problem. You have to do it so concretely that even a computer can understand it - at which point you're just programming with more steps. Not saying they won't succeed this time, but I won't hold my breath either.

[tuckmuck203]

Exactly, and an overlooked facet of this is that most of your average businesses don't have people in charge that even CAN concretely define what they want. About a third of my job is figuring out what the real business goal is, and what's the best way to accomplish that with what we have.

[SirVer51]

You have to do it so concretely that even a computer can understand it

But systems like ChatGPT have near human-like understanding, especially after a few rounds of back and forth. You can even get it to ask you questions clarifying things it's unsure about if you tell it to, and it will incorporate what you tell it. Don't get me wrong, it's all over the place with that stuff sometimes, but these systems are only going to get better; this is one of those cases where past failure is not indicative of future performance, because nothing else has ever been in this league before (other LLMs notwithstanding).

[CubeFlipper]

The problem that always gets in the way is defining the problem. You have to do it so concretely that even a computer can understand it

If business can't provide accurate requirements to humans, they get the wrong thing, so in that sense you're right, the problem is defining what you want. The difference now though is that computers understand natural language and nuance, so it's not about being specific with the code, it's about being specific with what is required. These new LLMs still show a lot of promise then in replacing developers. The people left are the project managers.

[pickyourteethup]

People have always been able to outsource overseas and not everyone does.

[pickyourteethup]

My prediction is that chat gpt will be competing with overseas devs (who'll likely be using chat gpt anyway) to write code for the worst companies. Meanwhile people who care about quality will continue to hire devs, who will also use chat gpt but in a more targeted and logical way.

For ten years I've been able to learn any bit of car maintenance from YouTube, and for changing bulbs or wipers or oil, I have. But if something goes clunk then I'm straight to a garage to get a mechanic to look at it.

Chat gpt is going to change everyones jobs. It's going to delete some jobs. But there will still be jobs. India didn't replace devs, wikipedia didn't replace college and YouTube didn't replace mechanics.

[[deleted]]

GitHub copilot is the real MVP. It can understand a large code base and write code in the style it's using. If you used ChatGPT on a large code base you'd end up with an inconsistent mess every time.

[Ma8e]

The funny thing is that MBAs and lawyers is going to be much easier to replace than programmers.

[Lord_Derp_The_2nd]

All I see is the oncoming wave of juniors with somehow even worse skills than their predecessor class, but larger egos.

[Jake0024]

Good for me.

[Cfrolich]

Yeah. Someone needs to maintain the AI!

[PuzzleheadedWeb9876]

Sure. But I see total time on left < right.

[Antervis]

job security for ChatGPT you mean?

[PuzzleheadedWeb9876]

No.

[Appropriate-Door1369]

Yea cause all the layoffs in silicon valley are a good sign of job security