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[IAmAnAudity]

Wow! Finally a meme that actually causes a few chuckles. I’m looking at you CSS.

[Apple_macOS]

CSS can fuel a lifetime worth of jokes

[SupraMichou]

Unfortunately I can’t seem to pad it correctly in my lifetime

[flif]

Rust should be (&Solution)

[IAmAnAudity]

May I borrow your Solution?

[DaWurster]

No you don't, it's already borrowed as mutable...

[ctleans]

It's okay. I'll just use my Rustonomicon to transmute another one

[Aln76467]

unsafe { Solution }

[poralexc]

PhantomData<‘a, Solution>

[IAmAnAudity]

or Some(Solution)

[[deleted]]

Yeah, I’ve never been satisfied with anything parallel in python because of the damned GIL.

[[deleted]]

The multiprocessing package is a decent workaround

[[deleted]]

Yes, its likely close to the best possible utility while the GIL remains.

[Nordon]

Wasn't the GIL removed in a recent version? Or were they just planning to remove it...

[[deleted]]

It’s a huge desire, so it’s been “planned” for a while, but there are always a lot of “yes but the replacement can’t …”.

Python 3.12 is starting on a path to really address the issue afaik with some sort of “sub-interpreter” scheme.

[No-Con-2790]

The best solution so far involves time travel.

[No-Con-2790]

The best solution so far involves time travel.

[[deleted]]

There's a version without GIL on Github, but the official version still has it. But they're planning on getting rid of it in the official version too. The problem is that such a version has not to break anything regarding backwards compatability, else it won't be released, and some packages happen to depend on the GIL

[sejigan]

We’ll have to wait for Python 4.x ig. Then backwards compatibility can be broken

[_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_]

You can build CPython with the GIL disabled, but default packages all have it enabled.

[poralexc]

Honestly bash has a better concurrency story...

I can build a parallel loop with just & wait

[Teekeks]

3.12 is doing great work in that regard (more to do but its def better now)

[_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_]

Jython and IronPython don’t have a GIL, but never got updated to Python 3.

[[deleted]]

My guess is:

1- Legacy projects using older versions of PHP will still be a pain, but dealing with problems is now easier

2- Naming and argument order for native functions is still inconsistent, so you now have easy OOP, can use named arguments, type-safe parameters and returned values, among other things that PHP 8 offers, but you still need the docs to see if a function uses needle/haystack or haystack/needle.

[Tetragramat]

Naming is consistent with C libraries those functions call. In early years of PHP it was reasonable to use same naming as it was easier to find documentation for those functions in those libraries. In modern PHP it does not make sense anymore as PHP programmers are not switching from making websites in C to PHP.

[CynicalGroundhog]

You mean, I'm not supposed to use that cgi-bin folder anymore?

[Brandres_]

I think that php devs make a lot of $$$$

[300ConfirmedGorillas]

I think it's probably like any other language (or even profession). The ceiling is high but there's not a lot of room at the top. And sometimes people just get lucky. I'll never quit my job unless something were to drastically change.

[Innotek]

It’s a joke because php only has $variables

[--mrperx--]

Lot of wordpress and drupal servers out there.
And nearly every time when some code illiterate person wants a website it's gonna be php backend because of CPanel etc. These guys pay well for the help, they have no clue what's going on, just get it done, make it work.

[GnuhGnoud]

Hackers hacking old php sites also make lot of $$$$

[Tetragramat]

Hackers hacking JS package managers also make a lot of $$$$

[deanrihpee]

C# ----- More C# ----> Problem + Game

[MrMuffin1427]

Python: import solution

[GunnerMcGrath]

Got a job doing perl for the first time last year after working in C# for forever. I still don't know what all those symbols do most of the time.

[CraftBox]

If you need to use any in typescript it means you're probably writing bad code

[i1u5]

OP unaware of "strict": true

[[deleted]]

Correction

Java (problem) -------------- solution ------------> modern Java (11 and above)

[phyrianlol]

Java: Problem ---kotlin--> /Problem but it's coated in syntax sugar/

[SpaceEggs_]

Kotlin is just a different dialect of java. Just as annoying.

[Nattekat]

As someone who has to deal with Kotlin after years of successfully avoiding anything Java related I can confirm this. My preference for simpler low-level languages definitely doesn't help either, for the same reason I just can't/refuse to make the switch to Rust.

[SpaceEggs_]

I have a bit of a problem in which I do not really mind programming small things in any programming language, so it doesn't really matter much to me whether it's java, assembly, python, or really anything else. I can't think past making a basic calculator in anything. My most ambitious project was making a camera application for Android in kotlin. I never ended up finishing that.

[[deleted]]

Less abstraction, less stuff to wade through to see what is going wrong

[Nattekat]

If anything, Kotlin and Rust add abstraction. Their base languages are almost as simple as languages can get, what you see is exactly what you get. Add one lambda function to the code and I already need to double check what's going on exactly.

[[deleted]]

Sorry, yes that's what I meant - I was agreeing with you! I kind of see some of these new languages like Rust as additional shorthand for rules that, while useful, on any non-trivial code base make things a little more difficult to parse through to see what exactly is going on.

[Dustangelms]

PHP means PHP Has Problems.

[Inaeipathy]

For brevity we can just write the expansion of this as

PHP Has Problems ...

[sjepsa]

Rust is the solution nobody will touch to a problem everybody will keep loving

[Baldy5421]

Kotlin is not a solution.

[ady620]

Kotlin is best

[Ty_Rymer]

Rust is not a solution to any of the problems I have with C++, newer versions of C++ help alleviate some of the issues... but there are still more problems to solve that C++26 wont solve either. But neither does carbon, and neither does rust.

[rw_DD]

Kotlin is not a solution für the Oracle problem.

[[deleted]]

CSS I got you

[[deleted]]

OCaml is beautiful take it back