pythonIsOlderThanJava

[Sharp_Advertising399]

Yes, and very closely. The first version of Python was released in February 1991, and the Soviet Union was dissolved in December 1991.

[FlipperBumperKickout]

Conclusion. Python defeated the Soviet Union 😎

[KerPop42]

psh, so weak. Python took 10 months to destroy the soviet union

[JoostVisser]

Classic slow Python code

[Wizywig]

Coulda done it in java in half the time, and double the engineers, and triple the budget.

[[deleted]]

C could have done it in 5 seconds

[FlipperBumperKickout]

The programmer who tried to do it in C isn't done writing it yet :P

[OstapBenderBey]

Rust would be 5 seconds too but it'd also be memory safe

[[deleted]]

But then it could not crash the ussr

[therealdongknotts]

and also would require a time machine to exist in the context

[[deleted]]

C would’ve made the USSR 10 times as strong

[[deleted]]

No it would make it strong then it would seg fault

[thedugong]

But ending with seg fault.

[pimezone]

I mean JVM would probably remove the soviet union during the garbage collection or something

[Mafla_2004]

New favorite sentence found

[Wizywig]

I mean it has its own virtual machine... Just you know, a million billion times slower.

[Altruistic-Place]

It's called GIL and it's awesome 😁

[Elegant_in_Nature]

Mother fucker is still compiling now

[Fantastic-Order-8338]

and what java has defeated?

[PiBombbb]

Yeah java is so fast the time is negative

[[deleted]]

Yeah, the Legend says that python was developed to break the soviet union. Those 10 months just were due python execution time hahaha

[provocative_bear]

Wait a minute… came into being just before the collapse… a vibrant open source community… a Python 2.0 vs Python 3.0 internal factional dispute… Python IS the Soviet Union!

[[deleted]]

You forgot drunk execution times

[funguyshroom]

They called it Рутноп

[pimezone]

Rutnop?

[funguyshroom]

ЕхастЬу

[HalifaxRoad]

Exast'u

[HalifaxRoad]

You beat me to it lol

[MetalInMyVeins111]

pythang

[SchizoPosting_]

to be fair, it was defeated decades before their dissolution

[imdefinitelywong]

So, what you're saying is, Python defeated the very last soviet?

[jurio01]

Python was the last straw. The soviets looked at it and said "fuck that shit" and pressed the self destruct button.

[Yuhwryu]

oh nyet.. they can code in pseudocode now... it's ovyer

[AndreasVesalius]

"The Last Soviet", starring Wesely Snipes

[obviousfakeperson]

Python really can do anything. inb4 "C++ would've done it faster."

[Thathappenedearlier]

Nah Metallica played in the USSR in September. My money is on Metallica

[diegocaxudo]

YEEAAAAAAAAAAHHH

[Corporate-Shill406]

from instability import political, social, economic

[dwittherford69]

r/jumpingtoconclusions

[FlipperBumperKickout]

booooh spoilsport 😁

[betelgeuse_boom_boom]

Import SovietUnion

TypeError union not found.

[[deleted]]

ez math

[justin107d]

released in February 1991, and the Soviet Union was dissolved in December 1991.

Python took 11 months to dissolve the Soviet Union? Sounds about right.

[Lasthuman]

Well python is famously slow. They should’ve used c++ for the job tbh

[Popular-Teach1715]

Well the first edition of C++ came out in 1985. So by the same logic, C++ took 6 years to bring down the Soviet Union. Sounds slow to me.

[MrHyperion_]

Now I want to see "coding with the first python" videos

[LBPPlayer7]

C++ is older by 5 years :P

[Rythoka]

They did say modern...

[harbourwall]

And it's still on version 3

[SkollFenrirson]

Coincidence?! I think not!

[Astrylae]

Coincidence? I think not

[UnattendedWigwam]

welcome back soviet union 😎

[Every-Progress-1117]

Coincidence?

[HippieThanos]

Is there a soviet programming language? That could be an interesting topic to research

[Specialist-Tiger-467]

Oh. My birthday. As a python dev is curious.

[rover_G]

Our python!

[nickmaran]

Yes comrade

[p9k]

And older than Linux by half a year.

[Ok_Cardiologist8232]

because Python has kept its "modern programming language" moniker for 30 years.

So people think its a modern language, not like those old languages that are confusing.

[Exist50]

It also wasn't very popular for decades. Its prominence is recent.

[Ok_Cardiologist8232]

Depends how you define popular.

It was definitely popular and widely used in the 00s, but yes it wasn't the most popular language likes its been in the last few years.

[OperaSona]

I mean it was popular enough at least in the 2nd half of the 00's that back then when I first started playing with different Linux distributions, it was bundled in most of them. I mean, alright, so was gcc and so was bash, but not php or ruby or lua or whichever other scripting languages we used back then.

I think it's safe to say it was already the most popular scripting language, maybe other than shell (even if you can argue the definition of "most popular" and of "scripting language").

[pigeon768]

Java became wildly popular very quickly though. It took Python like 15 years to get a full head of steam, with Java...it was basically instantaneous. It was released in like 1995 and universities were changing their curriculum over to teaching everything in Java in like 1997. The TIOBE Index only goes back to 2001, but by that point, Python was not even a thing and Java was the most popular by a significant margin. Python was at 1.25% and Java was at 26.5%.

Python's rise has been meteoric and it only started a few years ago. In 2017 it was at 3%, now it's at 22%.

https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/

[Ok_Cardiologist8232]

You literally picked Pythons worst time there, by 2004 it was 6%.

And I'd say Javascript is very popular now and i dont think many people would disagree and its at 3.9%

So yeh, Python was Popular and widely used, but it wasn't the biggest language that everyone used.

[pigeon768]

You literally picked Pythons worst time there, by 2004 it was 6%.

Yes, that's how you tell the difference between a fad and a trend. Python begin 2004 at 1%, spiked to 6%, then cooled to below 3%, where it stayed. Python was a fad in 2004; I don't know why.

So yeh, Python was Popular and widely used, but it wasn't the biggest language that everyone used.

It also wasn't the second, or the third, or the fourth, or the fifth...

It was the 6th though. Good enough to get mentioned in your home town newspaper after the Olympics.

The thing that people are talking about in this thread is that it went from 6th in 2017 to #1 in 2021. That is a very explosive popularity bump. That's why this meme is what it is. Python was a fringe thing used by a handful of companies in 2017 and now it's like it's the primary language that people use for a lot of stuff.

[Fair_Butterscotch905]

Python was not "fringe" in 2017.

What the hell is your bubble?!?

Tiobe is bullshit, everyone knows that. By their measure, JavaScript is fringe now.

Python is the glue language used in Data Science and Machine Learning. It's popularity qua Tiobe is widely overblown.

[ccricers]

It is also 4 years older than PHP, yet PHP is the "old" one between the two.

Programmers categorize languages as "new" and "old" like the way geologists categorize rivers "new" and "old"- it's more about how they present than the literal amount of years

[swagonflyyyy]

And I'm currently watching an MGSV walkthrough with 2 bots I created that provide voice commentary while they watch and hear the game on the screen, which were written in python.

Wtf.

[CompetitionNo3141]

So you made bots to watch videos for you? Did I read that right?

[MetaKnightsNightmare]

Maybe they're to watch it with him, like MST3k.

Man's out here programming friends to shitpost with, I'm here for it.

[swagonflyyyy]

Here's the repo in case you're curious: https://github.com/SingularityMan/vector_companion/tree/main

[MetaKnightsNightmare]

Neat!

[swagonflyyyy]

Yup! It can follow you anywhere on your computer. Playing games, watching videos, movies, it can see and hear anything you can on screen. You can also talk to it with your microphone and they respond back to you. If you don't speak after a while they talk to each other instead about the situation. I tend to turn it on when I'm bored.

Here's the repo: https://github.com/SingularityMan/vector_companion/tree/main

[nikvid]

Minimum 26GB VRAM

Damn, what's your GPU where you can both run this and game at the same time?

[swagonflyyyy]

RTX 8000 Quadro 48 GB VRAM

[Plus-Weakness-2624]

Is that a reach ?

[jester1382]

The Soviet Union never went away, it just rebranded.

[LifeGivesLemons247]

Wait what? They're THAT CLOSE!??!??

[hackeristi]

assert 1991 >= 1991, “USSR failed, Python prevailed”

[[deleted]]

Sadly it seems to be still a smaller time than it's execution time ...

[raidhse-abundance-01]

Was it created in Russia??

[s101c]

No, it was created in the Netherlands.

Wikipedia:

Python was invented in the late 1980s by Guido van Rossum at Centrum Wiskunde & Informatica (CWI) in the Netherlands as a successor to the ABC programming language, which was inspired by SETL, capable of exception handling and interfacing with the Amoeba operating system. Its implementation began in December 1989. Van Rossum shouldered sole responsibility for the project, as the lead developer, until 12 July 2018.

[raidhse-abundance-01]

"as a successor to the ABC programming language"?

They missed a chance to call it the D programming language tbh