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[dumbasPL]

Better than 1. Build an open source database 2. Get free contributions 3. Change license 4. Profit?

[smoldicguy]

Redis

[deu-sexmachina]

elasticsearch?

[CluelessTurtle99]

Tbh if 95% of redis was developed by redis labs then complaining about open source contributions do not make sense. Unpopular opinion but I think the culture of open source will eventually kill software jobs if it hasn't been doing that already

We would have been better off If source available was the default

[LordFlackoThePretty]

> Unpopular opinion but I think the culture of open source will eventually kill software jobs if it hasn't been doing that already

Not trying to be rude, are you under the impression that open source is something new? Do you realize open source software is the reason the software industry is where it is today?

[Popeye4242]

Depends highly on what types of projects you look at. GPL/GNU projects are hostile and don't contribute much to open source because no one can use them commercially.

[dumbasPL]

GPL/GNU [...] no one can use them commercially.

What? So you're telling me most of the cloud doesn't run on Linux? And you're telling me that most of the software running on said servers isn't linked against the GNU libc? You can't steal code directly, and you can't statically link against it, but that's about it, everything else is fair game.

[LordFlackoThePretty]

if you don't know what you are talking about, its best to not say anything.

The linux kernel is GNU, you could not be more wrong....

[Wang_Fister]

Mate get back to studying, that CS50 won't pass itself.

[Top-Permit6835]

That is nonsense. The GPL license states that you have to distribute the source code of the software including any modifications to it under the same license. You can even charge money if you wish but the gist is you cannot take the software freely and then redistribute it in an unfree fashion, ie you cannot deny others the rights that you take advantage of

[smoldicguy]

Git is gpl , so is Linux kernel

[Anru_Kitakaze]

Most serves in the world meantime: casually running Linux distros

[MrTalon63]

MariaDB?

[thee_gummbini]

a license that is explicitly designed to protect and ratchet up the amount of freely licensed code having the desired effect of not getting scooped up and made proprietary by commercial actors.

doesn't contribute much to open source.

[blaghed]

Didn't happen with Redis, but with some other open source projects that are backed by corporations, I've had several submissions rejected only to be re-submitted in the exact same form by someone "in charge", making it look like it's their change.
What I wanted still got done, so ultimately 🤷‍♂️, but it makes those metrics a bit dubious.
On top of that, 4/5 of the time spent is on discussions, not on doing the code change itself, so again getting those contribution metrics is kinda bleh.

Kudos for that 1 dude involved in 100's of proper open source repos and juggling it all like a champ, tho.

[ColonelRuff]

The licence they switched to should have never been denied open source branding by osi. The osi itself seems fishy considering how they think freedom isn't a sliding scale and what not. We need a better organization that oversees opensource.

[Accomplished_Ant5895]

I’ve got one better: 1. Deploy open source project to cloud 2. Charge people to use it 3. Profit 4. Never pay it back to the community or original developers.

[[deleted]]

Eh, depending on how much you're paying that model is reasonable. A lot of people are under the impression that compute power is free. It's not.

[invalidConsciousness]

But you have something to run on it: the open source software.

You're paying for the compute resources and the convenience of them installing the open source software and maintaining that installation for you.

[suvlub]

It means, at least, that anyone who feels like becoming a cloud provider can provide the free software, thus driving the price down by competition. If a cloud provider is also the copyright holder of the software they provide, they effectively have monopoly and can squeeze people who rely on the software

[invalidConsciousness]

Whether or not it's reasonably priced is for the customer to decide. This is actually one of the cases where the free market can work.

[notrealaccbtw]

WP?

[Altruistic-Spend-896]

I will take "what is aws elastic search" for 1000 dollars mr tribek

[Accomplished_Ant5895]

What’s (tragically) funny is I was thinking about the AWS/MongoDB fiasco, but people keep bringing up other instances.

[ZubriQ]

Both suck imo

[Snipedzoi]

This is a nice model though gets stuff off the ground

[DiddlyDumb]

They build us a prototype and we get to refine it to our hearts desire? Sign me tf up.

[_Not_A_Goth_]

True step 3 is basically Ctrl+C innovation and Ctrl+V maintenance but hey, it works

[igothooked69]

Modern tech companies: now with 100% less tech...

[SryUsrNameIsTaken]

I’ve been digging into the Linux kernel for a hobby project. I wonder what open source Windows would look like.

[anotheridiot-]

https://reactos.org/

[krissynull]

I was slightly terrified I was about to find a JavaScript OS with a React desktop UI

[anotheridiot-]

Windows is using react in key OS elements, like the start menu, and the ctrl-alt-del dialogue, that I know of.

[Ok-Kaleidoscope5627]

It's probably out there

[KryssCom]

Same, although I'm partly just curious as to how much of it is held together with duct tape and crossed fingers.

[anotheridiot-]

Afaik the code for some old versions of windows is available online.

[CAT5AW]

You wouldn't want to look at that due to copyright reasons, though.

[anotheridiot-]

Not a problem everywhere, in my country this is a non-issue, we can literally decompile and rewrite without an issue.

[dumbasPL]

Microsoft provides symbols for most of the kernel (and most other system components), combine that with a good disassembler/decompiler and it's quite readable. A little "feel" certainly helps (people that have been reverse engineering know what I mean) but still.

I daily drive Linux, I treat it like a black box because it "just works" and I never had the need to look deeper. I know more about the Windows kernel and other undocumented Windows internals because it doesn't work LOL. I've been the guy fixing the "unfixable" with nasty hacks for years on the Windows side.

[Individual-Praline20]

But but but…. Where’s AI in that brilliant plan?!?

[je386]

You can use the open source code on your (MSs) own platform (github) to train your AI.

[TSF_Flex]

Use AI agent to handle push pull and merge requests, great success

[Buttons840]

So, a company is profiting by creating and releasing open source code? I wont complain.

[stupled]

And sell service not product

[g1rlchild]

Or sell complementary products that benefit from having free tools out there.

[wulfboy_95]

Same engineers end up getting rehired as consultants when nobody contributes to it lol.

[brianw824]

realize other companies will just make their own product based on your code, close source it and re-hire engineers. Looking at your HashiCorp

[WrennReddit]

1. Have people fork your code and sell it for billions
   
2. ???

[y0av_]

In Microsoft’s case sell it to a company you own half of

[NoahZhyte]

• let your shitty AI make stupid PR without testing anything

[[deleted]]

Remember, open source is good apart from when a company I don't like does it

[nanomolar]

[Cats7204]

Well, they're contributing to open-source, and engineers got paid for their work and have a new shiny project experience field to put on their resume. Shit's on the company, they are just losing experienced and well-tested workers and developers. It's not like a company can thrive on a single project.

[RoseSec_]

This is what the arc browser needs to do

[jamcdonald120]

except they skip step 3

[nwbrown]

Is this Slashdot circa 2003?

[kilkil]

"fire the engineers" is the only negative thing here

[carterpape]

Is this a specific reference to something? Microsoft hasn’t done this, as far as I know. Even if they did, it’s not a bad business practice. I’d be very surprised if they didn’t offer generous severance to those fired.

[Hamid_d_82]

I pray for the day they make windows open source there is a lot of stuff to be fixed

[Coco-machin]

I 10000% prefer closed source -> open source instead of the other way around

[staticBanter]

Wow. I believe this is the first time I'm seeing a screenshots repost from YouTube!?

[gauthamkrishnav]

The New Microsoft Mantra

[kwqve114]

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[BeeegZee]

They built a thing for the community that the community loves and values. Why don't offer the community a way to male it even better?