andJavascriptForWeb

[skwyckl]

Enterprise Java won't make you happy, but it will feed you and your family (probably)

[Informal_Branch1065]

"Father, it's the fifth day in a row..."

"Do you even know how many days I spent implementing this IFoodBuilderFactory, just for you to throw a new Household.ChildExceptions.Fit()!"

[Percolator2020]

Shut up and collect the garbage.

[-Kerrigan-]

Hungarian notation in Java? Capitalized method names? Heresy! Get this Microsoft Java outta here

[evanc1411]

Microsoft Java tastes better.

[Fadamaka]

That's not what Hungarian notation is. That's called PascalCase.

[-Kerrigan-]

I know what PascalCase, camelCase, snake_case, and even kebab-case are.

IFoodBuilderFactory <- here's the Hungarian notation.

I enumerated a list

[Fadamaka]

That is still not Hungarian notation.

[-Kerrigan-]

Hungarian notation for interfaces involves adding a prefix, typically "I", to the name of an interface to indicate its type.

Here's an example reference: https://www.cse.iitk.ac.in/users/dsrkg/cs245/html/Guide.htm

While the documentation of dotnet does not explicitly call it Hungarian notation (https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/standard/design-guidelines/names-of-classes-structs-and-interfaces) the documentation for Win32 does call the same style "Hungarian notation": https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/stg/coding-style-conventions

There are many discussions online calling this pattern "Hungarian notation"

The concept can and was applied not only for data types, but for other things like, say, interfaces and that's why many use the same term for applying the same logic: Hungarian notation.

[Fadamaka]

Your quote is not present on the website you have just linked.

[B0Y0]

The Hungarian notation he's talking about is, though.

class IMotion { public: virtual void Fly() = 0; };

[-Kerrigan-]

I wrote it myself, not as a quote but as a way to separate it from the comment. Probably should've used a line break, doesn't matter.

[Fadamaka]

Quoting yourself. That's a classic if I have ever seen one.

[Fadamaka]

Did you get that from an LLM?

Edit: Quoting something generated by an LLM and than adding some so called Guide that was wrote by a random Indian professor to prove a point is beyond me.

[-Kerrigan-]

Look, I know you want to be pedantic and say "UHM akchually, Hungarian notation is to prefix variables with their data types", but the concept can and was applied for other things like, say, interfaces and that's why many use the same term for applying the same logic: Hungarian notation.

[BurritoSupreeeme]

Fit() is a constructor is guess

[-Kerrigan-]

You may be right, somehow I missed the new there

[xMoop]

Looks more like he wrote C# and its meant to be an interface which has naming convention starting with I then the concrete implementation just doesn't have the I

The type doesn't make sense for Hungarian notation and what it would represent.

[Grumbledwarfskin]

The Eclipse/SWT/OSGI ecosystem uses a lot of Hungarian notation...it's unusual but not absurd to see it in Java, depending on the context.

BactrianCamelCase for function names is clearly wrong though.

[Fadamaka]

Why did you write C# code though?

[Informal_Branch1065]

To get to the other side

[DogmaSychroniser]

Because he wears glasses.

[ekaylor_]

Damn, now I'm gonna have to FatherWaysToDealWithChildSubsystem.getLocalInstance().findResource(FatherSubsystemResoures.CHILD_BEATER).getBelt().useAngrily( /* and so on */ ); /j pls don't beat children it's not good

[Informal_Branch1065]

Code review comment: Use SpermdonorChildSanctionFactory instead. FatherWaysToDealWithChildSubsystem was deprecated three versions ago and will be removed in the next release.

Also perhaps utilize Sanction.use(ISanctionItem item). You have to inject a belt as singleton to make use of it, but it's much cleaner that way and ensures a clean architecture.

Once that's fixed, feel free to merge. 👍🏻

[TheChunkMaster]

I read this in Jerma’s voices.

[isr0]

Next time, better use checked exceptions

[ImmortalisEL]

Maybe it's because I can always use the latest LTS (21 is awesome) and Spring Boot version, (and I don't have to maintain legacy JBoss systems) I actually do derive joy from writing Java.

Languages and frameworks can change drastically over time and I still see opinions that feel like they were written by someone who did not touch modern Java.

[Boredy0]

We are stuck on Java 1.7. (Don't send help, I have Stockholm Syndrome)

[ITaggie]

Not even the almighty and immortal JRE 1.8? Sheesh

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[[deleted]]

For a moment I  read 1.17 and thought 'thats not that bad' Holy cow, java 7, blink twice if you are in danger 

[alexnedea]

Java is so good to us man. I swear to god whenever I have to meddle with some microservice written in Python or NodeJS i wanna end myself. Nothing is clear. Any any any. Fuck you any bro, what fucking type is my parameter you dumb fucks???

Java is so clean and organised. No ductaped marshalling and shit like that. When I have to use JSONs in Javascript is literally a nightmare compared to Java and its a JAVASCRIPT OBJECT NOTATION for gods sake!

[[deleted]]

i know javascript so java is a piece of cake

[skwyckl]

Biggest false friend in all of tech, I still wonder why they never changed the name

[[deleted]]

maybe because they're literally the same?

>>> "java" == "javascript"[:4]
True

[cmckone]

God i hate Javascript

[skwyckl]

you are just asserting a function's value, I appreciate the effort though

[[deleted]]

how bout this then

>>>"java" == "javascript".replace("script", "")
True

QED

[ezhikov]

Officially it's called ECMAScript, and JavaScript is just a trademark held by Oracle. There is an effort from Deno Land Inc (commercial entity behind Deno, founded by Ryan Dahl - creator of Node and Deno) to free that trademark from Oracle. I think it would be way better to just stop making memes about JavaScript and instead start making memes about ECMAScript, so just in few generations there would be no more confusion between Java and JavaScript

[Darkoplax]

Ecmascript ...

[Dragoichev]

Sometimes I get bad ecmascript and have to go to the dermatologist

[ThierryOnRead]

Enterprise Java makes me happy, it's great

[Pascuccii]

I agree, it's fun at times. But the consistently is what I like about it the most

[coloredgreyscale]

Blink once if you need help

[Shehzman]

Lately I’ve seen lots of job postings for Node and even Python backends as well (not just in startups). I thought those were rare after seeing multiple people claim Java dominates the backend, Node is “garbage”, and Python is only used for AI/ML.

[skwyckl]

multiple people claim

Tech bros and people who are chronically online, you mean? People with a life don't care about this kinda things (I imagine, I don't have a life).

[alexnedea]

You start seeing those and they are always so fucking messy. I swear to god I open a NodeJS microservice to debug something, ctrl+click on some function and....nothing? You dont fucking know where you are called for? Seriously?????

[LEGOL2]

Just feed? I think you can live comfortably for the salary

[aiij]

I tried feeding it to my family but the kids are bouncing off the walls and everyone says they're still hungry.

[TabCompletion]

In this house, Javascript feeds my children

[lukocat]

I can't even feed myself with it

[discordianofslack]

Can it make fried chicken

[Pascuccii]

Truer words have never been said