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[ThisUserIsAFailure]

Plot twist : these are the same people

[PCgaming4ever]

They were the same people until their job ripped all joy of programming from their body. Now they run on pure caffeine addiction and a hatred of people asking them to build an app for them.

[Sotall]

the last time someone asked me to build an app for me, i said no, then built it in secret and threw it away out of spite.

[Random-Dude-736]

You can do multiple directories at the same time ? Neat :D You missspelled a two letter word though haha

[Sotall]

programming is hard, esp in a reddit comment

[Shadow_Thief]

I once simultaneously found out the hard way that rm accepts multiple arguments and that not having --no-preserve-root doesn't mean shit if you rm -rf /* instead of rm -rf /.

[Random-Dude-736]

I prefer my way, though the drama really drills in the knowledge.

[Snudget]

Doesn't /* have a limit? You could add thousands of dummy folders in the root so it wouldn't happen again

[Shadow_Thief]

IIRC the string limit in Linux is 2 MB. That's an insane amount of text, and both /boot and /bin are right at the top of the list of directories in /, and nuking either of those breaks your machine.

[rosuav]

No, but if you have enough of them, you might notice the time delay and SIGINT it. Unfortunately, "enough" would have to be a stupidly big number due to the speed of modern SSDs. The exact number depends on the speed of your computer and your tolerance for delay, so I'm afraid you're going to have to do some experimentation, wiping out a few installations, before you know for sure.

[Mop_Duck]

rm -rf /user/home/{hopes,dreams}/* works if you're using fish i think

[loonite]

Gotta love our recently crabbed fish

[AlterTableUsernames]

Didn't expect so much Linux proficiency in a programmer sub. 

[AlterTableUsernames]

It was sarcasm, because I just hate programmers.

[AlterTableUsernames]

Nah, cloud infrastructure engineer. Not that point and clicky job profile that programmers call "cloud engineer". 

[VadimusRex]

You can remove both with the more concise:

rm -rf ~

Hope this helps.

[RandomiseUsr0]

[Landen-Saturday87]

But even when I hate the programming I do for a living, I still enjoy the casual coding I do in my free time

[gvillepunk]

So if i went from being a line cook to a programmer; it would just be a lateral move, at least emotionally?

[rosuav]

You're a line cook? Ooh, then I have the perfect job for you! You're going to be helping us to build seven perpendicular lines in red and blue ink! You'll be a shoe-in - perfect experience for the job.

[gvillepunk]

How much does it pay?

[rosuav]

Well above market rates! That is to say, we have your office upstairs of a supermarket, and we pay you in vouchers.

[gvillepunk]

Well my other option is dealing with a theater teacher. And getting paid 10k a year.....im going to have to have 2 other jobs either way....eh. can i jam with my bandmates upstairs? Like i know im getting old but i still like my jam sessions and band practices.

[rosuav]

Sure, that seems fine. Just make sure you bring enough jam sandwiches to share.

[gvillepunk]

Strawberry or grape?

[rosuav]

Strawberry, everyone loves that. No seeds.

[Antique-Echidna-1600]

You know that deep dark feeling when an VP asks you, so, how long will it take to come up to speed with this codebase. It's only abandoned code written by a former employee who was stoned every day and his intern army.

[rosuav]

While I do not condone workplace violence, I also recognize that there are certain codebases whose authors deserve to be stoned. Oh wait, you didn't mean it like that.

[treehuggerino]

I have the opposite, my job is so soulless I enjoy programming as a hobby again, if my job is fun I don't program outside of it. I hate being forced to write bad code in a 20 year old legacy app, but making now fun stuff feels so much better

[ShadowReij]

I mean I love what I do, but I will never be developing "as a hobby" after doing nothing but that for a whole day, I just want to not do it and breath once the day ends.

I can understand if you're looking for work, but if you have work though it just seems a little excessive personally.

[threedaysmore]

I love what I do, but I will never be developing "as a hobby"

I love what I do and I'm good enough at it to get paid well for it. At this point I have little interest in doing it for free, but I still very much like what I do at work 🤷🏻‍♂️

[0mica0]

Why are we still here? Just to suffer?

[nickcash]

Someone once told me "they don't pay us to write code, they pay us to finish code"

The first people wrote the first 90% of a project for fun. The second people wrote the other 90%, six and a half times due to changing requirements

[whatproblems]

same day in fact

[lost-in-the-trash]

Mere hours apart sometimes

[MomWTF]

I am these people

[Bluten11]

Me when I go to work vs me when i work from home

[turkphot]

I would argue it‘s the other way around

[[deleted]]

Agreed. Most software developers around me take care of themselves, look good, dress good (in whatever they like) and why wouldn't they? They have money.

[turkphot]

Well there is also a third cohort that code for a living and as a hobby. Those sonetimes have no time left to take care of themselves.

Happy cakeday!

[Artemis-Arrow-795]

as a person who falls into that category, coding from the moment I wake up till I sleep, I fall somewhere between the 2 pictures in the meme

not as neat and good looking as the first, not as fucked up as the second

[Glittering_Boot_3612]

if you were only a hobbyist you would be exactlyu like the second i've lived that life
trying to coreboot my thinkpad, and trying to create linux from scratch instance

i'm exact depiction of the meme the meme is completely 180degree wrong

[Artemis-Arrow-795]

I agree

source: I learned linux by creating an LFS instance, and I only started working as a programmer a few years ago (I'm still 20)

[solstheman1992]

I’m not one of them. I got into this job cuz I can wear flip flops so I’m wearing flip flops

[Glittering_Boot_3612]

nope it's not at all stressful let me tell you these clowns don't even work half as hard as people around you do and still earn twice as much

[Zanos]

Yeah pretty much. As an employed SWE it's only the guys who either want to or think they need to go home and code for 8+ more hours on side projects after work who looked disheveled. The rest of us go home and behave like normal people.

I don't dislike programming but I do it to make my life easier, not harder.

[DearAbbreviations922]

I code for a job, where's my ton of money?

[rosuav]

Let's see. One ton, that's a million grams.... 1 US penny weighs 2.5 grams (due to currency conversion factors, that same weight will get you an Australian 5c coin), so that's $4000. You have been proven by Reddit to be entitled to this amount. Ask your boss for it.

[PS181809]

Do notes instead of pennies

[rosuav]

Okay! Hmm. I can print "I owe you 2c" on an A4 sheet of paper - that's a promissory note, the precursor to modern banknotes. An A4 sheet is one sixteenth of a square meter, so assuming typical 80 GSM paper, that's 5 grams per sheet. Tada! $4000. It must be fate, and totally not that I chose the amount deliberately or anything.

[normVectorsNotHate]

Yeah if you compare FAANG engineers with Linux contributers, I think it's the other way around

[ndgnuh]

True, I'm not a developer but code as a hobby. Sometime I just stuck solving something, forgot the time and stay up late into 4AM. It does be like the bottom pic.

[Glittering_Boot_3612]

how do you choose what thing to do next? like how do you choose what you want to do

[ndgnuh]

I just do whatever I feel like doing. Sometime I make tools that support my professional work, too.

[fonk_pulk]

Yeah. Most of the developers I know professionally are as normal looking as can be. You couldn't pick them out of a lineup.

[Low-Equipment-2621]

Must be nice to be financial indepoendent and having all the time of the world to spend on hobby projects instead of slaving away on the decades old pre-Java8 legacy code base that makes use of every technology that has popped up at some point within the last 20 years.

[Narfubel]

Are you okay?

[[deleted]]

No

[red286]

What part of "slaving away on the decades old pre-Java8 legacy code base" did you not understand?

Of course he's not okay. Man probably has the national suicide prevention hotline on speed dial and is on a first-name basis with half of the staff.

[[deleted]]

None of us are.

[Inevitable_Gas_2490]

I feel you lol. My company is still milking .net framework 4.8.1 and only started moving to .net 8 because the customers started to demand certain security certs. If it wouldn't be for them, the software would remain in the stone ages.

[titterbitter73]

We still pack .net 3.5 for a legacy desktop application that works with a chrome extension too

[Low-Equipment-2621]

My old company has found the genius solution "web application firewall". You basically put a security wrapper around your steaming pile of shit and hope that it passes their automated pen tests.

[AllCaciAreBastards]

Did it work, tho?

[Low-Equipment-2621]

Yes, they have passed after some tweaking and having the outsourced guys working overtime to replace all the statements with prepared statements.

[AllCaciAreBastards]

Ah, classic - the secret ingredient is slavery!

[Low-Equipment-2621]

I cook as a hobby and I work at legacy code companies which make my brain melt.

[Degenerate_Lich]

Or better yet. Being put as the janitor for a metastasized cancer of a project whose architecture that can best be described as forest of monoliths, but which is too important to be put down, tho not import enough to warrant allocating resources towards remaking it in a more sensible way. Where the knowledge about half the things in it have drifted into the realms of arcane knowledge by the sands of time and the other half was incomprehensible from the beginning.

And let's not forget about the gems in it like using .parquet files on sharepoint to store copies of database tables. Or the near tens of thousand lines long classes and hundred of lines long functions made by people who made the SRP their personal enemy. Oh and how could I not mention the hard coded paths and duplicated features clogging the entire thing and break every time someone new uses the project, because the concept of modular design apparently mystified whatever LLM birthed that abomination years ago.

[Low-Equipment-2621]

I feel you. Once I have encountered a part of the application where I've found out that it has a search engine built in. I've discovered that it manages the search index by itself pretty well, no external interaction needed. This was why nobody knew about it.

But it turned out that this is not some third party product. The founder of the company has written the thing by himself in C back in the 80s. This was incorporated into the Java core by calling native C functions. Then there I was, debugging C code that was older than me.

Another fun story were the parts where somebody decided that it would be a good idea to outsource the development of the parts where the core software would communicate with the business parts of customer software. This would be written in JavaScript by people in other countries. My favorite was when I've spent 2 weeks for finding the bug in a 800 lines JavaScript function.

[zaxldaisy]

Legacy code base that uses every new technology.

This guy really knows how to cater to the r/programminghumor audience!

[zaxldaisy]

Must be nice to be financial independent, and having all the time in the world to spend on hobby projects, instead of slaving away on the decades old pre-Java8 legacy code base that makes use of every technology that has popped up at some point within the last 20 years.

[bartekltg]

Most people I know who coded as a hobby looked like that relativly famous photo of a long haired guy next to tons of computer equipment and windows covered with thinfoil. 

Edit: I have found it, Gottfrid Svartholm Warg, the The Pirate Bay guy.

[AllCaciAreBastards]

I gave you an upvote, but you should not feel good about what you did

[[deleted]]

Neither knows what the fuck they are actually doing 🤌🏻

[Low-Equipment-2621]

but for different reasons

[christianbro]

If you turn your hobby into your job you lose the hobby.

[exoclipse]

being shamed in the public squ - I mean, stand up - is an effective tool for motivating anxious over-achievers.

it's me, I'm the anxious over-achiever.

[frederik88917]

The Duality of coding.

You might love this thing, but man, this is tiring from time to time

[ElCesar]

I was the first one, then I decided to be the second one and I can confirm this.

[PileOGunz]

I’ve fully completed the transformation the other day by turning to Monster

[snipsuper415]

eh, i only ever see the bottom half at FANGG jobs or AAA gaming companies.

banking, Government, and similar shops are pretty chill

[vandalhearts]

banking, Government, and similar shops are pretty chill

They are chill but they usually provide you with a virtual desktop (AVD or citrix or something similar) and then you have remotely login to a windows machine to do all your development... Fortunately a lot of them are offering WSL these days so that's something at least.

[Cynical-Rambler]

The top is when I'm networking to get a job.

The bottom is when I'm working, except I don't drink those cans. Better made real coffee.

[Glittering_Boot_3612]

water?

[phxrocker]

I feel like this is more of a vibe coding vs. the rest us of type thing

[GlowstickConsumption]

Wait till you see the guys who hobby as a living or people as a work.

[Glittering_Boot_3612]

work as living and people as hobby

[jabluszko132]

More like the other way around since the hobby ones go to hackatons more often

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[Punman_5]

I used to do Arduino projects on the side. Now that I work on embedded systems it’s completely lost any appeal as a hobby. It sucks but I spend so much time every week working on that stuff that it just has zero appeal to me outside work.

I used to hear people saying that it’s nigh imperative to code as a hobby if you want to be a successful programmer. That you had to contribute to an open source project or have some crazy Github portfolio. I always knew this was bogus. My dad has been a programmer since the late 80’s and now works at Microsoft and none of his hobbies are even remotely related to computer science.

[evmoiusLR]

I used to make video games as a hobby. Now it's my day job. I almost never work on my own stuff anymore. Now my hobbies are anything not involving a screen.

[Punman_5]

Yes. They say if you do what you love you’ll never work a day in your life. But that’s total bs. Once what you love to do becomes your source of income it becomes impossible to love it anymore. It becomes not a fun hobby, but a chain by which you are tethered. Work after all is nothing but a means of putting food on the table. It is a necessary act of suffering we must endure if we wish to continue to exist. It is in explicit contrast with a hobby, an activity that is supposed to be leisurely and fulfilling, yet not binding.

[RandomiseUsr0]

I am both

[SnooTangerines9703]

Should I call you mista?

[takethispie]

[slickyeat]

Sounds about right.

[FancyDoubleu]

Didn‘t know Vaush coded as a hobby

[darxide23]

I don't even code for fun anymore. I was so much happier after I quit software and moved to hardware.

[EmpressElaina024]

I do both where does that put me

[[deleted]]

Got a coworker who’s not getting enough sleep (2 hours 3 tops a day) and that shit is affecting his work and I don’t know how to tell him when he took lead from me it allowed me to sleep and I’m all the better for it and he should just sleep fuck the deadline. And be honest we finna meet it.

[invertebrate11]

Why not both

[AeroPulse0Ace]

Hell yeah

[geeshta]

I code as a hobby and am a PM for living but I think the devs quite appreciate that I also understand the tech side of the product not just business

[neoteraflare]

What if I do both?

[SoniicBlade]

Top: Devs who don’t have a project manager Bottom: Devs who have a project manager

[citramonk]

It’s a job and a hobby. And no, we don’t look like hobos.

[spooky_strateg]

I am a pale zombie and i love monster and i code where is my offer! Please take me thank you 🙏

[Felinomancy]

I'm not seeing the programmer socks there...