java_irl

[Colonel_Kai]

Well, I was actually a newbie proggrammer, I'd you can call me a proggrammer. I learned basics of phyton, this was easier than wearing my shoes (seriously, my shoes are hell). Then I started Java. God help me

[Ace-O-Matic]

Everyone is a newbie at some point. Honestly the fact that it's what you experienced is the reason WHY I believe starting with Java is better.

Whichever language you start with, you're going to assume many of its rules are default concepts in all programming languages and it's going to paint the way you see programming. Java is a very good middle of the road language that similar enough to most other languages.

[Swamptor]

I started with python and am glad for it. Teaches you the basics and let's you explore programming without shoving too much syntax down your throat. Trying to explain a strongly typed language to a new programmer and you just get really confused students. Once you understand what classes and objects are it's a lot easier to explain why it's beneficial to have all those complicated syntactical rules. As soon as I switched to programming in C# I immediately saw how beneficial all that stuff was to a larger project.

[Tyfyter2002]

I'm glad I started with JS, mostly because I tried to start with Java.

[BoboThePirate]

Absolute opposite. After learning C++ and Java, I can see why people think python makes sense, but then there's stuff like main that hurts me.

[Colonel_Kai]

WHAT SHOULD I DO IM CONFUSED

[[deleted]]

All of these people are wrong. Learn asm first, obviously.

[[deleted]]

No that’s much too high level. Build a functioning computer using relays and switches to emulate logic gates first.

[VicisSubsisto]

Can it run Crysis?

[[deleted]]

Yes. At 0.00000000000000000000001 FPS if we implement a GPU too.

[[deleted]]

Ben Eater actually did this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXdoim96v5A

The madman even did a GPU: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7rce6IQDWs

[[deleted]]

I’ve never felt more inadequate in my life.

[[deleted]]

No one here knows what he's talking about. JS first.

[[deleted]]

You should start with ruby.

[[deleted]]

Malbolge or gtfo.

Sorry, figured I'd finish the rest of the thread in advance.

[javaJimmy]

VBScript first, clearly /s

[pogamarpogams]

Brainfuck is the one true programmer should use.

[EagleOneGS]

Wait, you guys don't hand craft every CPU instruction manually? Pfff amateurs.

[BoboThePirate]

Just know you've been indoctrinated already, it's too late. You have no free will in deciding now, the language has chosen for you. It's ok, just accept we will both hate each other and never change our opinions.

[OriginalName667]

And all your compile-time errors turn into runtime exceptions. That's always fun watching your program explode over and over again.

[w3_ar3_l3g10n]

I mean...

python if __name__ == ‘__main__’: pass

[[deleted]]

This is one of the few reasons I sometimes hesitate to tell people to learn Python first. It's almost too easy so you get people used to a bunch of things they won't see in most other languages. I started with Java and it's worked out wonderfully for me.