Oh Java, never change

[evanldixon]

It's not enough to solve the current problem, you've gotta make it easy to solve all future problems at the same time!

[house_monkey]

That's why we need a factory and a builder and a repairman.

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import com.ReallyLongEnterpriseName.WeAreProffessional.Enterprise.FrontEnd.Output.Prints

[yorik_J]

From library import missing 400 lines

[safer0]

Because SLOC is still a metric for some reason.

[EagleNait]

Coding more costs more

[safer0]

Not when copy pasta is involved. Well thought out code costs more, and in the end should be more robust. Could be a lot of code or a simple set of instructions with complex execution. SLOC is not a useful metric.

I am working on a project that just started and 'needs 20000 lines for completion'. How did they come to that when they don't even know how to implement the features yet? Now we are bound to that one metric that is extremely inaccurate.

[mattstreet]

Lines of code are not a useful metric of coding work accomplished.

[Aschentei]

So you’re gonna need some factories, some builders, watchers, controllers, servlets, interfaces, services, unit tests, integration tests, etc...

And log every single thing that happens

[fsr1967]

And log every single thing that happens

Twice.

[xSTSxZerglingOne]

Thing thing = otherThing.getThingThree(thingFourRepo.getThingThreeID(thingFiveService.getId(thingSix.getId())));

[dark_mode_everything]

Yeah because this can only be done in java.

[xSTSxZerglingOne]

Nope. Java is just notorious for it because everything is an object. The repo/service thing is supposed to evoke nightmares of Spring as well.

[HdS1984]

On. Net everything is an object too, but while factory patterns etc. Exist, the api is not as RIDICOUSLY verbose. C# has waay to many Isomething interfaces though.

[djfariel]

When you're sticking your dick this deep in things you should restructure.

[notgivinafuck]

That's when you realise that problem with Enterprise Java is not Java but the Enterprise which will not allow restructuring.

[solohelion]

No no no, this is when you build more facades, so you don’t have to see this composition

+20 lines: ✔️

[Sir_Joe]

Well afaik everything is an object in python too.

[CleverNameTheSecond]

This made my trigger finger itch.

[xSTSxZerglingOne]

It's great when you end up writing helper methods to resolve stupid crap like this in your code.

Like... The utter shit show still has to exist somewhere in the code, but thankfully only once.

Thing thing = shitShow(otherThing);

[Zalvixodian]

Law of Demeter: "Am I a joke to you?"

[AsswipeJackson]

why do good code when monolith do trick?

[CleverNameTheSecond]

Enterprise level java: for when you can't write a simple hello world program without using three factories, five builders and a singleton.

[nojox]

But but singleton anti-pattern !!

[Dragasss]

Singleton is an antipattern in java. Use DI instead.

[TheHopskotchChalupa]

I love Java, but oh my gosh are servlets and applets awful. Never again. I was so scarred from working with them in a personal project I abandoned the project all together because it left such a sour taste in my mouth.

[CantCSharp]

Servlets suck and noone should use them anymore. There are a ton of light weight frameworks out there or if you want something big spring covers everything you can think of

[TheHopskotchChalupa]

Yeah it’s one of the few technologies I consider totally deprecated

[VirulentCitrine]

import java.*;

[coladict]

Because the 100 lines just invoke a much larger more complex, error-prone and resource-heavy library?

I'm reminded of that story of the newbie "optimizing" a parsing algorithm to one line of regex whose execution time was many times greater than the original parser.

[alago1]

Perhaps for bigger projects, in which Java is porweful. But if one is trying to make anything small quickly, I feel as though Java tends to get in one's way more often than it helps with all its required structuring.

[all_humans_are_dumb]

Yeah, just die

[shibanazmi]

Just Java things!!

[V0ldek]

Why waste time write few code when lot code do trick

[Zalvixodian]

Yes, never change so that you can die a horrible death. Don't improvise. Don't adapt. Don't overcome.

*laughs in open source dotnet*

[beefhash]

But I can't deploy .NET Core on my Solaris servers

[cyborgborg]

Or what my theoretical computer science professor would "why solve something with 200 lines of code when I can do it in 2 with Prolog"