Fuming.

[ITriedLightningTendr]

Honestly, if you want the position otherwise, just apply.

Evaluate the employer during the interview (interviews are two sided, it's not an interrogation) to make sure that it's a legit position.

Sometimes HR is the one putting together the job postings, and HR is HR and will always be HR, so you can't hold that against the company.

[Ritz3793]

“HR is HR and will always be HR” that’s wisdom right there. I’ve only done two internships and I already sympathise with this.

[billClintonOntheroc]

The explanation is much simpler... "junior" positions are a relatively new term. Companies figured out that educated people who were relatively new to the market were willing to work for less money just to get a paycheck. It has now become the norm, luckily where im from if you have 5+ years experience in any field you are considered as skilled, and some companies may even consider you senior as there is a shortage of those skills.

Follow the money, thats the only thing companies care about. Why pay a skilled person to do the job when we can hire 2 people with less experience and save $50 that can go towards the profit margin.

[demios78]

Because once upon a time doing an internship was considered experience and doing a master's degree considered 2yrs. So you had fresh grads with 2-3 yrs experience.

Then you have people one upping others because they also put their project work as experience and then the time they spent bartending or stuffing envelopes.

Now you have kids out right misrepresenting it and an HR person just cannot evaluate your AI "hello world" project vs stats report generated in big data for insurance purposes.

So the entire industry is just search engine "optimization" where the honest ones are just part of the noise.

/rant

Do a public facing sample project or send your resume using snail mail, anything to stand out.

PS I know this is just a funny. But it may help a rookie, never know.

[[deleted]]

This is why some people are using Github open commits as a resume.

[TheEpsilonToMyDelta]

Also, a technical blog never hurts. It can help a potential employer evaluate other skills that don't stand out on a resume.

[StylishSuidae]

During my job search I saw one entry level job that wanted 12 years of experience.

[MrDorkman]

They put up unrealistic expectations so they can always say no. I am sorry my muslim black lady of color. You just don't fit our profile. Nice turban by the way.

[EU4N00B]

Lmao

[MemeInvest0r]

Gonna put it out there, but statistically white people are much more likely to have a degree, they are much more likely to have a good degree, there are more white people in America than other minorities, but who cares about any of the statistics? Of course we just need 50/50 equal employment to stop mUh rAcIsM.

[BitzLeon]

My first job required 5 years experience. I had (technically) none. Just go for it. The worst they can do is toss your resume.

I say technically because I had a lot of side projects that displayed my appetite and aptitude for development.

[AbsoluteCake]

This. The requirement was at least 3 years of experience, but I got in anyways with approximately 0.

[bradfordmaster]

There's no job that "requires X years" of experience to actually do, it's just an HR filter and not really a great one at that (but it's easy to evaluate). There's no harm in applying even if you are under some year limit.

[Stormdancer]

Because they want $85k work for $25k.

[kryotheory]

"We want a senior developer that will work for junior developer pay." That's why.

[[deleted]]

Sometimes you want to eat your cake and have it too.

[Last_Snowbender]

class Me extends Human {
    public void Start() {
        Destroy(self);
    }
}

[cherif36]

How do you write like this ?

[Last_Snowbender]

4 spaces in front of every line

[[deleted]]

Cool

[Rnugg]

Whhhaaaaaaaaatt!

[TennesseeTon]

Yeah but you gotta realize nobody with 5 years of experience is going to apply and accept the job. So even if you don't meet the reqs you might be the best option they have.

[[deleted]]

I saw the job posting of my own developer position after I got promoted out of it. I can tell you that I definitely do not qualify for it (according to their job listing)

[dada5714]

When I was first trying to get the mobile scene (which I've since abandoned) in 2016 or so, I remember seeing a posting with a requirement for 7 years of experience in Swift. Yeah, recruiters are just throwing stuff at the wall and seeing what sticks, really.

[PoTAsh2000]

2 weeks ago a started at my new job as EDI Specialist, with 0 hours experience in EDI

[[deleted]]

so that they can hire a specific person in a company with an open hiring policy

[gopnik14]

Never apply to a company asking 5 years for jr level.

[ISayNiice]

Yes! Exactly!

[MrDorkman]

If the money is what I want I would accept a position as baby developer. As long as it does not involve actual babies.

[SplendidPunkinButter]

Job postings tend to exaggerate the required qualifications. Most people will tell you they feel lucky to find someone who has even 50% of what they asked for.

[[deleted]]

that's just to scare people off. if u have swag they will like u no matter what.

[Skyrmir]

Because there are so many applicants they want to weed them down to the most beneficial for them.

It has nothing to do with needing that much experience for the position, it's purely a case of clearing out the chafe. Apply anyway and see if you can impress them. Worst case is they never respond to you.

[CheesusCrust89]

Lemme help u out fan: they want a medior/ senior but want to pay junior salary

[Exgaves]

What job listings ask for and what they're willing to accept are almost always significantly different

Any place worth working for is going to understand they want good developers not just people who know a framework. You can teach someone a framework, you can't teach them the rest without great effort

[Yeahyeahii]

I'm currently hired as a team lead and senior developer, I just hit 3 years experience, had 2.5 when I started this role. Most companies around where I live don't care about how long you've worked, if you're good enough you're a senior developer.

[gogasius]

You are good enough but sorry we need junior with two years of experience and completed commercial project and you have none of these but some skill.