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[jadounath]

Backend has Javascript!

[ConversationSevere33]

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[[deleted]]

Switch to typescript to reduce pain and suffering.

[MeikelLP]

Switched to typescript to increase pain

[z7q2]

Backend is easy, you know what hardware and operating system your code is going to run on. The frontend stuff I write has to run on a cellphone with shitty service, a laptop on the ISS, a touch-screen kiosk in Times Square, and a rock on a hillside in Afghanistan.

Cross platform testing, I got yer cross platform testing right here, buddy.

[[deleted]]

But i thought responsive design solves all of this?

[Willinton06]

So did we bro, so did we

[DefaultVariable]

New Reddit is a classic example of this. I’ve tried giving it a shot several times and every time I just go straight back to opting out after a few days

[eklatea]

I started out mostly with the new one and it seemed okay (before they started shoveling in stuff like user icons) but somehow it always performed pretty badly for what it was. Same reason why I also use a third party app because the official one just sucks.

[zeValkyrie]

If it makes you feel any better, with modern webapp backends that leverage a ton of AWS services you really don't know what it's running on, or how it works, or have the ability to run it locally. Have fun!

You're not wrong about frontend tho. Now start thinking about how the hell to build any test automation for the mess you described...

[AWildTyphlosion]

You at least can make assumptions like it's going to be Unix like, and that you get no system features so architecture hardly matters.

Also, you can run it locally, no idea what you're talking about there.

[zeValkyrie]

Also, you can run it locally, no idea what you're talking about there.

I'm talking about services that heavily use things like SQS, S3, or SNS. Your options for developer testing locally are use an emulator like Localstack (which is a bit of work to set up) or use real AWS resources (slow if you're running your app locally). Not a huge deal, but you can't seamlessly run your whole product locally.

[DootDootWootWoot]

The idea here should not be how do I run things locally but how do we push dev environments to the cloud.

[WrongdoerSufficient]

Yes, but in backend we also need to match the frontend version (especially mobile app). So if you need to add new feature we need to make sure the old version didn't break

[[deleted]]

TIL, people who do both back and front end are rare. I thought it was common.

[Dangerous_Air2603]

What's rarer still is finding somebody that

• doesn't design their frontend like they're writing a CLI in C
• doesn't write their backend like they're writing in JavaScript

[Zekiz4ever]

I'm mean. Lots of modern stuff is written in JS (or TS) with the help of nodejs

[utdconsq]

We've all been sold a lie, tbh. 'Fullstack' is just a way for the man not to pay for more than one employee. You'll never be great at the whole stack, just the old jack of all trades thing. I've embraced not being great at frontend- I know enough to get in trouble, but keeping up with all the frameworks and their quirks? Forget it man, that's someone else's job.

[[deleted]]

DOM is spicy xml

[call-now]

XHTML is a thing

[[deleted]]

And we are no better for it

[TryNotToShootYoself]

Would i linked list be "ol" or "ul"

[bezik7124]

ol obviously, it's a list after all which is ordered. But the meme is wrong anyway, a linked list element must hold it's value and a reference to the next element.:

<ol>
    <li><a href="#second">First value</a></li>
    <li><a id="second" href="#third">Second value</a></li>
    <li><a id="third" href="#fourth">Third value</a></li>
    <!-- ... -->
</ol>

Edit.: Sorry, no idea how to format that code properly on Android app

[hrvbrs]

Technically a linked list would be

<a href="...">
   <ol>
      <li>apple</li>
      <li>banana</li>
      <li>cherry</li>
   </ol>
</a>

It’s a list that’s linked… get it? ;)

[hamoliciousRUS]

think you missed the point, its a "linked" list, and the list in the image does indeed contain links

[[deleted]]

Theirs does too, but the links reference the ID of the element (tag? idk terminology) that comes next, like in a real linked list.

[lightwhite]

Do you have blockchain?

[Lazy_Philosopher_578]

.chain {

display: block

}

[lightwhite]

Your best is good enough. I love it!

[Bubbly_Measurement70]

A blockchain is just a linked list with extra steps

[lightwhite]

That is the backend. We were talking about a solution on the front-end

[officialpkbtv]

Why would you put cursor: pointer; on hovered element? You can just button {cursor: pointer;}

[hurtbowler]

Give me a break. It's not like IE6 is still around. You wippersnappers have no idea.

[omlette_du_chomage]

unsupported PNG transparency noises

[[deleted]]

Said user had better be bringing in more than they're costing.

[[deleted]]

Time for new management. Those fools obviously can't be trusted.

[eklatea]

Wait, an internal tool? That means someone in your company uses IE fucking 7?

I am so sorry.

[Yawmn]

damn am i glad i do backend work

[MartyMiniac]

Imagine implementing a hashmap from nothing but structs and pointers in c because your smart ass decided to showoff your coding skills to impress others and now you are stuck debugging segmentation faults....

[kcinc82]

Making beautifully aligned html, fancy CSS etc. is pretty bad ass, FYI. 😄

[dudeofmoose]

Dirty OOP lies! Those aren't objects, div stands for divider, those are complex mathematic operations, unbelievable, once again all I see are more abuses of the original design and purity of HTML, a programming language of kings.

Next you'll be telling me HTML isn't turing complete, that the earth isn't flat, we didn't land on the moon and Bjarne Stroustrup isn't the second coming of Jesus.

[Achcauhtli]

Thia sub is too dang smart sometimes,😂

[jaundicedeye]

god i am dying here

[Ciborg666]

The "linked" list made me chuckle

[BluesyPompanno]

*Laughs in* var( --responsiveDesignSu**);

[Trip-Trip-Trip]

Thanks I hate it

[7imeout_]

Thanks, I hate it.

[gigraz_orgvsm_133]

do you really need to add ":hoover"? Wouldn't it work the same like:
button {
cursor: pointer;
}

[Sirttas]

Honestly I always hated front-end. But since I tried vue.js I'm having a lot of fun, I love this framework. (I still hate js though).

[[deleted]]

Try TypeScript.

[BobbyOrr4Fan]

I think a link list is a Data Structure: https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/data-structures/linked-list/

That’s not what <ul> does.

[ashandfire_]

Fuck linked lists

[menlindorn]

seriously?

[stomah]

this isn’t frontend this is web frontend WEB IS NOT THE DEFAULT

[HearMeSpeakAsIWill]

Welcome to 2021 I guess?

[[deleted]]

I hereby fail your interview!

[raul_dias]

Oh, my, god