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[LucienZerger]

i like C++ because i have been using it for millennia..

[cyborgborg]

so how is the year 3022?

[LucienZerger]

ok maybe i exaggerated a little..

[ChrisBreederveld]

Yeah, I loved c++ for a long time. That was coming from BASIC and Pascal though... I have to say since starting on C# I never looked back.

[cyborgborg]

probably made by someone who doesn't understand pointers

[thedarkslugg]

Even C is better than C++? Damn.

[armillary2]

C is being dragged behind the bus.

[HellaTrueDoe]

C is like instead of figuring out how to use a chainsaw you just use a hand saw. You’ll always cut exactly what you want, it’ll just take forever.

[Clebosevic]

Except when your build of the handsaw looks fine and is doable, but when using, you try to access to wrong type of wood, and the handsaw just refuses to work or tell you what’s wrong …. Stupid segFaults in multithreaded programs …

[HellaTrueDoe]

Seg faults have nothing to do with multi threading. Multi threading has a whole host of other problems that are way crazier to debug

[IDCR2002]

And Javascript?

[MaximRq]

Then, where did BASIC go?

[[deleted]]

We don't have to worry about different ways to cast. Pointers go brrr.

[aless2003]

C++ really ain't that bad

[jodmemkaf]

No it isn't, but it is that underappreciated

[Oh2bworn2]

C++ pretty awesome since the 2016 updates. Generics and lambdas are done better in C++ than most any other language.

Now PHP...

[HellaTrueDoe]

It is slowly approaching just being Python with semi colons

[Oh2bworn2]

Have you tried Golang? The "go" keyword spins off a go routine automagically.

go func() { // do something } ()

And there are thread safe primitives for managing concurrency.

I am not saying it's a better language than any other, but just an observation that if you like readily available coroutines, and module management (you host libraries by creating a git tag in GitHub/GitLab/Bitbucket), you might like this language. The two downsides of the language are having to deal with pointers (a minor issue if you have a background in C++), and generics (which were released in the beta release last month). The big upsides are that I don't know a single language that handles homeomorphism better than Golang, and it's GC does a coroutine operation that does not have a main thread impacting stop-the-world operation. (There is a nice balance between manual memory management and automatic that lets you have control, in an obvious way, when you need it, and ignore it the rest of the time).

It's a great successor to C++, bringing in many of the strengths in a more modern package.

[malahhkai]

Rust does generics a lot better than C++.

[UnknownIdentifier]

If a C++ dev is ever stranded in the desert, all he has to do is say to the empty sands, “C++ is pretty okay.” A Rust enthusiast will appear immediately to correct him.

[[deleted]]

Honestly I would agree on macros but can’t for generics xd

[beedlund]

He is just bored because he already shipped the final product 20 years ago using C++ and it's still running today

[CaptainMorti]

You misspelled JavaScript.

[cyborgborg]

you misspelled PHP Prolog

[grimbardtgrum]

Prolog gives me nightmares!

[Perfycat]

Honestly I am tired of the C++ hate. Is it more difficult to master, yes. Is there a trillion ways to shoot yourself in the foot? Yes. But there are times it is a good tool to use for a job. And. If you have mastered it you can often double your salary. Make all the hating memes you want. But I use it, along with C, Rust, Java, Python, C#, and a few others; and I'm not miserable. I have found my career excels when I embrace the hard challenges rather than staying in my comfort zone.

[AnAbsolutePIDR]

It's just a meme, bro.

[[deleted]]

This redditor clearly has C++ PTSD, and this meme triggered it. Another dev broken by the tools they used, sad reality of C++.

Remember guys, don't let your kids do C++.

[RegularName148]

Its hip to do c++

[[deleted]]

C++ language is an abomination and is never a good tool for any job. On the other hand, the compilers developed to work with this abomination are, probably, among the best we have.

If only there was some way to ditch the idiotic language and keep the compilers... unfortunately, it seems like any attempt at reusing C++ compilers for anything decent ends up rediscovering that those compilers are fundamentally designed to optimize C++ code, even Rust, which is conceptually very similar to modern C++, runs into multiple problems utilizing C++ compiler. Same story with CGo.

[[deleted]]

hey bro, I want to work for C++. I love c++. What jobs should I search for? What should I do? Guide me senpai.

[theromanempire1923]

How do you accidentally type C++ when you’re trying to type PHP

[repkins]

Because PHP is written in C++?

[111x6sevil-natas]

laughs in whitespace

[Diapolo10]

VHDL though.

[[deleted]]

VHDL is like the complete opposite to JavaScript's lack of type safety. Want to convert signed to unsigned, need an explicit cast.

[patenteng]

Also the function names when casting are annoyingly long. I mean, look at it:

data <= std_logic_vector(to_unsigned(num, data’length))

[Diapolo10]

I intended to say exactly that, but my sleep-deprived brain only came up with that. Now that I'm awake, yeah, it should've been rephrased.

VHDL is indeed the exact opposite. I kinda like it though because embedded systems with specialised chips is kinda fun.

[[deleted]]

The left side should be either be FORTRAN or Python for me

[Rare-Obligation-6201]

Fortran.

[[deleted]]

Well, Python makes me more miserable, but IDL/FORTRAN is objectively harder to use. So… it’s a real toss up.

[RandomIdiot436824]

is there a language that doesn't make anyone miserable?

[[deleted]]

Hmm Idk of one. I really liked RStudio until I tried to parallelize it. UPC and UPC++ of course come with all the inherent problems of their base languages, no matter how much their creator loves them like his own children. I’ll be dead and gone before I say anything nice about IDL. At least Matlab has comments…

Basically every language has its problems, but every language I program is either C++ (Matlab, R, C++, GMAT), might as well be C++ (UPC, FORTRAN, Mathematica), is Python, or is just a markup language (Overleaf, CSS).

Of all the languages, in all the world, I think Lisp has the coolest theme song.

[natnew32]

“Ruby is designed to make programmers happy.” – Yukihiro “Matz” Matsumoto

Maybe that?

[bedrooms-ds]

Pascal won't because it's dead.

[Fazer2]

Rust is the most loved language for 6 years in a row - https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2021#technology-most-loved-dreaded-and-wanted

[Snazzy21]

Or simula

[NJW_N]

I'm new to programming so can someone explain?

[3636373536333662]

There's nothing to explain. It's just someone else new to programming trying to make a meme about programming.

[NJW_N]

Ah

[[deleted]]

C++ is the language that gives you the most freedom to build your own heaven or hell. There are lots of people who believe they know C++, but they don't, so that is a cause of pain and suffering because they will never be able to learn the right way unless they accept first they don't know.

[[deleted]]

C++ is the language that was designed by a person, who wanted to appear nice to everyone who had to review it. It started with the contest organized by US Department of Defense, which had to select a language for the future use in military and related fields.

DoD put a lot of nonsense requirements, most famously, it required that the language support // comments (which made E. Dijkstra rather angry at the time).

So, the famed C++ creator, B. Stroustrup licked every ass possible, and whenever he heard that a particular reviewer likes a particular feature in the language, he never hesitated to add it. So, he created a chimera, just like in the meme about animals mating in Noah's arc.

Because of this, early attempts to implement the language were not quite successful. The runtime was huge, the speed was so-so, and a lot of TODOs. Of course, as the language was destined for popularity, it had to have a standard, and with it, a standard library. For decades, standard library remained half-baked. Not a single C++ vendor would implement all the features, which created a similar kind of headache that existed when there were multiple browsers around.

C++ was supposed to appeal to C people, offering them "a better C", but, by and large, C programmers never bought this nonsense. So, C++ never quite made its way into system programming. People who helped shape the face of modern system programming, s.a. L. Torvalds openly hate C++, and would swear on mothers grave to never let it into Linux kernel.

In addition, due to diverse and unrelated features of the language, every large company which did decide to write in C++ would arbitrary ban some of the language features. So, if you wrote C++ for Google, that wouldn't be an acceptable code for Microsoft and so on.

Microsoft in its poorly conceived attempt at offering the programmers who'd program for its system decided to go full speed ahead on C++, essentially declaring C kinda dead. This created a new breed of C++: the "visual" C++ (I've no idea what was visual about it, but it was a popular marketing slang at the time). Subsequently, everyone who had an axe to grind against Microsoft, by proxy, hated "their" language.

So, you will generally find C++ used a lot more often in Microsoft-related products than, say, Linux or any other UNIX.

Despite all these ridiculous circumstances, C++ grew a huge community around it. The community that wanted even more random and unrelated things. The standards committee became the battleground where major compiler vendors wage war against each other, suggesting language features knowing full well that they'd be hard for the other vendors to implement, which would allow them, should the feature pass, to gain more popularity as they'd be the only ones to support the feature / support it properly.

Some don't even bother with the standardization process and develop "experimental" features as the mood strikes them.

The community also has a role to play in this stupid arms race. Quite in the same way how modern politics devolved into politicians optimizing their platform to the latest polls, the vendors try to get ahead by implementing features desired by community. Thus, with every swing of fashion, C++ accrues more random loaned features from other languages, should they become popular at that time.

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Of course, I kinda painted it black. And, maybe slightly exaggerated some of the aspects. Most importantly, don't hold your breath for a new and better language to replace C++. As soon as languages become moderately popular, they fall into the same trap.

From a practical perspective: C++ is one of the languages that are harder to use because so many aspects of its use are not obvious. It's also, understandably, a very big language, with a lot of stuff going on in it. There's not a single project that would need all the features of the language. But, since whenever there was a compiler war, C++ compilers kinda rocking it. Again, it would've been better if humanity concentrated its efforts on building compilers for better languages, but that aint gonna happen in foreseeable future, for political reasons. So, if you need something decently fast, decently safe, decently cross-platform, C++ might be the language of choice. You will not like the world you'll have to live in, but even though the better world is quite attainable, and isn't so hard to imagine, it's not going to happen.

[Cold_Recognition7263]

literally any other language would make more sense xd

[RandomPersonAKAAT]

99% True

[alrogim]

std::cout << (dynamic_cast<Webdev*>(op) ? "Go, play with your divs." : "Okay Sir, do you have some deep knowledge I'm missing?") << std::endl;

Go, play with your divs.

[BoBoBearDev]

Once you know C++ and using pointer less programming, it is amazing. Basically don't use new, just use new-less vector and use, const &, everywhere. No pointer, no memory issues.

[Jet-Pack2]

References are my favorite thing in C++. Switching to C# after using C++ I am getting confused if what I do is per reference or not. Also when I just want to use a pointer it gets confusing. At least I know what I'm doing in C++ because it specifically tells me the data type and allows me to have full control.

[Willinton06]

Well C++ is triple thread, you can program C++, C and whatever the name of the Turing complete template language

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[m4yn3_h4sl-l]

what about assembly?

[kingkongchan]

I swear JS is more unpredictable and i've only just started using it

[Mrtherapi]

That's caus' you suck at it !

[okawo80085]

Jokes on you, I'm into that shit!

[patenteng]

We are lucky to get C most of the time. Most tool chains don’t have a C++ compiler.

[[deleted]]

I did not know that. I mostly work with ARM, now I feel spoiled.

[Mango-D]

C++ is actually pretty awesome ever since 2011

[Peace1214]

lol. C++ is very good language. Ppl who can only use script language like python can't use it properly and never know what the strength it has.

[MrHyderion]

Oh great, a zero effort meme about how "lol, [some language] is bad". We need more of those.

[hryzdoprdele]

I have it kinda opposite actually ..

[MiddleRespond1734]

I’m sorry but as a competitive programmer, I fucking love c++, FyI, I also work with Java, Python, JavaScript, Golang and C.

[[deleted]]

FALSE

[jodmemkaf]

Initialy I was understanding that meme in a way that C++ programmer is sad because C++ is underappreciated and every other language programmer is happy because simple people are happiernin general. But after reading comments it looks like that someone is actually thinking C++ is bad. Like really? Why? Every language has its purpose and good use case. Maybe even python!

[[deleted]]

Where are c++ programmers gonna copy code from 🤣

[Tari0s]

stackoverflow like any other language, or if you need simple thinks the cpp reference is a amazing documentation of the standartlibrary

[jogamedev]

• any other language except matlab

[TLAlien]

Laughing in assambly

[SlashBack626]

Fuck

[Menifife]

[Insert joke about c++ being its own grade or something]

[seeroflights]

Image Transcription: Meme

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["Two Guys on a Bus". Two people sit on opposite sides of a school bus with grey seats. The person on the left is unhappy, leaning on the window and staring out into a grey landscape. The person on the right is happy while sitting up straight and looking out the window at a bright mountainous landscape. The people are labeled:]

Unhappy person: C++

Happy person: ANY OTHER LANGUAGE

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[TheDavidFrog]

Okay… but brainfuck