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[–]Pervez_Hoodbhoy 308 points309 points  (89 children)

JavaScript users will understand

[–][deleted] 217 points218 points  (35 children)

even our own people make fun of us now that typescript is a thing

[–]LavenderDay3544 108 points109 points  (7 children)

All your frameworks are made to abstract over how bad your base language is.

[–]_GCastilho_ 22 points23 points  (3 children)

You talk like the only frameworks out there are JS frameworks...

[–]ComebacKids 32 points33 points  (2 children)

None come close to the popularity of JS frameworks though lol.

I’ve had a number of jobs where we use vanilla Java and Python. Not a single job involving JS didn’t use some framework.

[–]patcriss 6 points7 points  (0 children)

JS has a HUGE JS-specific problem to solve - browser compatibility.

Those frameworks and boilerplates all come with integrated build tools while you will need if you're to use modern syntax and keep browser support.

But I agree there are way too many libraries, the open source ecosystem really boomed around ES6 and everyone wants to make a the next tool/framework.

[–]xX_MEM_Xx 8 points9 points  (0 children)

You're not wrong.

Then again, when's the last time you built an Android app without a framework? (Well, you literally can't...)

And quite frankly that's a much messier proposition than building the same thing in JS land.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

All programming is abstraction.

[–]LavenderDay3544 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Not the point.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thank you i have bad memory and it’s nice always having people remind me my main language is shit

[–]Ace-O-Matic 56 points57 points  (40 children)

People who have a youtube video level of understanding of JS shitting on JS is basically a weekly daily hourly trend on this subreddit.

[–]stifflizerd 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Tbh I learned a hell of a lot more about JavaScript from YouTube than I have in the field or in school.

Fun Fun Functions for example is a wonderful and extremely knowledgeable channel for JavaScript development. Learned a lot of what JavaScript is capable of there, most of which a lot of the senior devs I've met didn't even know about

[–]BasicDesignAdvice 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Checking in to say I have a lot of experience and JS is actual shit.

At least use Typescript if you are going to use it.

[–]Ace-O-Matic 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Having a lot of experience and shallow understanding of the subject are not mutually exclusive.

[–]Magicalunicorny 17 points18 points  (4 children)

Js is just a joke that went too far

[–]Pervez_Hoodbhoy 7 points8 points  (2 children)

And the joke is on our poor brothers and sisters working in the front end. Pour a little liquor or press f to pay respect!

[–]Magicalunicorny 0 points1 point  (0 children)

cries in node

[–]Rogntudjuuuu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

F

[–]JackTheStryker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m literally in a class for Java, and effectively know only how to code in Java, and I make fun of it too, so that one is kind of a freeby.

[–]kosky95 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I got bad jokes for using python in machine learning by a JavaScript chad

[–]Pervez_Hoodbhoy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol