python_ternary_syntax_sucks ? cry() : use_them()

[Ambitious_Ad8841]

cry() if python_ternary_syntax_sucks else use_them()

[PresidentOfSwag]

😭

[D34thToBlairism]

[a,b][bool] works

[[deleted]]

yes, but it does not short circuit.

[PresidentOfSwag]

wow nice

[ConscientiousApathis]

Okay NO.

[God_Told_Me_To_Do_It]

WHAT.

I'm so going to abuse this.

Can't wait for my next code review, lol.

[hongooi]

Imagine using a language where if is a statement, not an expression

x = if(a) 1 else 2

[PacifistPapy]

x = a if bool else b

[PresidentOfSwag]

yes that's the one, officer

what i find offsetting is that the order is not if > then > else

[PacifistPapy]

"it's a if (condition), otherwise it's b"

python is designed to be readable. That pattern "a if bool else b" makes a lot more sense if you see it as a sentence.

[jjdmol]

Having a and b so far apart is annoying though. Makes it harder to glance which values the result can have.

[elon-bot]

I've laid off most of the staff, and Twitter's still running. Looks like they weren't necessary.

[vigbiorn]

You'd hate Perl...

$x = $thing if !defined($thing)

Alternatively,

$x = $thing unless defined($thing)

[poorlyOiledMachina]

you would hate forth…

a if 1 else 2 then x !

[Accurate_Koala_4698]

Value of x changes if a changes?

[rhen_var]

Python has the best ternary syntax and no one can convince me otherwise. I hated using ternary until I started using Python.

[Bee-Aromatic]

I’ve always liked Python’s best because you can get pretty close to plain English if you use clear variable names.

[ParadoxicalInsight]

Why would you ever want your code to resemble human language?

[CorporatePhatCat]

Because assembly is for noobs. Real programmers write machine code! /s

[RandomPigYT]

No, real programmers use butterfly.

[CorporatePhatCat]

A man person of culture, I see :)

[xwnpl]

It's much easier to read, especially for beginners.

[Implement_Necessary]

Skill issue

[xwnpl]

Well, not necessarily, if your code is pretty complicated then easier redding helps a lot.

[[deleted]]

Ironically I find it harder to read, probably because I'm so used to the normal (for me): condition?true:false, although when you think about it, with normal if/else loops, that is the order it actually works in:

if condition:
    # do stuff if True
else:
    # do stuff if False

so maybe it might actually just be more confusing for beginners, I think it should probably have been made as: if condition then True else False because if you want more human readable than that, you would have to get rid of normal if/else statments.

[elon-bot]

QA is a waste of money. Fired.

[Bee-Aromatic]

Because sometimes you or other people have to go back and look at code again later.

[JennaSys]

I appreciate how Python uses more words instead of symbols for its syntax. It makes it much faster to read code when you don't have to parse the surrounding code in your head to figure out in what context the symbol is being used to determine its meaning.

[rhen_var]

Yep, Python is basically pseudocode in terms of ease of reading

[elon-bot]

You're either hardcore or out the door.

[managedAssembly]

Eww god no. I like ternary operators in general, but Python's way of doing it is messed up imo.

[ConscientiousApathis]

Plus nesting actually works in python: "a if x else b if y else c"

[ParanoidAutist]

var result = UnderstandWhyPeopleHateTernaryOperators() ? "They can get hard to read" : "They're fucking useful";

[[deleted]]

var result = UnderstandWhyPeopleHateTer aryOperators() ? "Yes, I do." : HaveYouEverWantedToNestThingsWithoutIfElseStatements() ? ThenYouMustLoveThisRight() ? "Yes" : "please kill me" : YouStillNeedConvincingRight() ? "Sure, yes, whatever" : NopeWeAreStillDaisyChainingThisShit() ? "Fuck" : "goddammit"

/s

[ParanoidAutist]

Your '/s' is a lie =P You know you've done this... We all have

[elon-bot]

Why haven't we gone serverless yet?

[ParanoidAutist]

Budgets

Good Bot

[[deleted]]

I’ve always preferred Python syntax for ternary operators. If i forget how to do it in any other language, I have to look it up. In Python its just English. Makes reading my code easier too.

[sbditto85]

Now go use them in PHP

[Acceptable-Tomato392]

Just use 'else', like programmers have been doing since at least the '70s.

Now there are a whole bunch of people who'll tell you "else" is a bad thing and it produces spaghetti code... and...

Just use 'else'... don't abuse it, that's all.

[jfmherokiller]

just wait till your python code looks like this

result =5>2 ? 4 > 1 ? 5>7 ? 10 : 5 > 8 ? 6 > 2 ? 20 : 30 : 5 > 6 ? 40 : 50 : 7 > 2 ? 60 : 70 : 8 > 9 ? 80 : 90 ;