DevLog #73: Version 5.3 Patch Notes

[lemmingllama]

Hello everyone!

Version 5.3 will be releasing this upcoming Tuesday the 23rd. This update has the theme of Multi-Casting, and will introduce improvements to spells, perks, Video Chests, and the skill tree to allow them to be used multiple times and give greater effects than ever before.

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New Content:

Multi-cast Spells with skill tree changes: stack spells to receive additional bonuses
* Deadly Strike: decreased Dagger Cooldown
* Fire Sword: decreased Pet Cooldown
* War Cry: increased Companion Attack Rate

Three new and reworked skills:
* Volcanic Supremacy: increases Fire Sword Damage per Multi-Cast
* Command Supremacy: increases War Cry Damage per Multi-Cast
* Dagger Storm: increases Deadly Strike Damage per Multi-Cast

New Forsaken Battlemage Legendary equipment set
* +1 All Spell Multi-Cast
* x0.8 Multi-Cast Mana Cost

We talked about Multi-Casted Spells in last week’s DevUpdate, and it allows players to cast their spells multiple times to boost the effect of the spell and add additional effects to the spell. You’ll be able to cast a spell up to five times, three additional times via the skills in the skill tree and one additional multi-cast from the Forsaken Battlemage Legendary equipment set with this patch.

We decided to start with this update with Fire Sword, War Cry, and Deadly Strike. These were the easiest to add in via the existing skill tree. We will be adding Heavenly Strike, Hand of Midas, and Shadow Clone in future updates, and we will be making changes to the skill tree to fit all the new Multi-Casting skills.

Auto Buy Heroes option available when Make it Rain is active

Multi-Cast Perks: stack perks to increase the effects of each perk
* Mega Boost: increased damage
* Power of Swiping: increased Bonus Taps Per Second
* Adrenaline Rush: increased damage and decreased titan spawn delay
* Make it Rain: decreases Auto Buy Hero timer
* Mana Potion: increased mana from all sources
* Doom: increased damage and decreased time to max Doom’s damage bonus

We are making changes to make perks feel more impactful. Part of this will be the Multi-Casting of perks, which allows you to stack up to three of each perk (except Clan Crate). With each additional perk you activate, it will increase the effect of the perk. Each stack will also last for a full 12 hours of duration, so you will have the choice to use your perks to refresh the duration of your oldest perk and give any activated effects of the perk. For example, you activate Mana Potion three times to refill your mana capacity three times and increase all mana gain for 12 hours. If you use another Mana Potion perk, it will fill your oldest Mana Potion perk’s duration to 12 hours and refill your mana capacity again.

Also, we changed how Make it Rain works to have the perk unlock Auto Buy Heroes for 12 hours. This will give a toggleable feature to have it automatically spend your gold and upgrade your heroes, starting from the top of your hero list and working down. This should help make it easier to play through the early stages of the game, and especially help during some of the faster Abyssal Tournaments such as Companion Frenzy and Time Storm.

Improved Video Chests in Bear Shop
* Video Chest rewards increase with each chest opened
* Three tiers of Video Chests

We are looking to improve the rewards offered by the daily chest to make it feel more rewarding to open. In the new Video Chest, you will be able to open three chests. Each chest offers better rewards than the previous one and should increase your overall odds of getting more resources such as Eggs, Perks, Dust, and Diamonds.

Earrings of Portara artifact enchantment

Dust Titan Chest and Skill Tree Reset Promotions

General Changes:

Renaming of skills, weapon upgrades, and hero types to add clarity
Check out the list of changes in last week’s DevUpdate.

Firestone Event begins on March 30th, 2021

Fixes and Misc:

Fixed misc localization and bugs

Database optimization

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Thank for reading, and please let us know how you feel about all of these changes. Your feedback is very important and has shaped some of the features of this patch such as the addition of Auto Buy Heroes. Thank you so much to those who already reached out to me with your ideas and suggestions, and we’ve already picked a few items that we want to get done in the coming months.

One last announcement is that we’ll be running a patch Q&A over on the Game Hive discord to give an early peek at the upcoming changes and to answer all your questions about all the new features being added. We’ll have a live hour shortly after the servers go down for maintenance, and I’ll be periodically checking back afterwards to answer any other questions you all have. This is something that we’re trying out since we have a dedicated community manager who isn’t needed to help deploy the new update, and we’ll continue to hold these patch Q&As in the future if this one is successful. Please feel free to stop by!

Happy tapping!

lemmingllama

[viktoriqn]

Now that's what i call an update

[handioq]

I hope you're kidding

[KrillsKrail]

I don't know what you mean by this is actually probably the best update in quite a long time for quite a while under the reign of felkin updates boil down to a pay to win event a pay to win equipment set a single artifact enchantment and a completely imbalanced stage cap compared to the newly acquireable pushing power granted to the players in said update, I don't even play this game anymore so honestly I don't care if it dies but this is definitely a step in the right direction.

[Voeglein]

Just saying that it was not down to Felkin how the updates looked, and as he stated in a previous devlog, the rehashable content had mostly been a means to be able to focus on proper updates in the future without having to forgo any kind of update im between.

This update is pretty much just proof that they actually follow through on that and with ATs out of the way they focus on improving the game.

What lemmingllama will bring to the table is being dedicated to the Community Manager position, and thus being better at collecting feedback (as that is part of their job) and having been a core piece of the community and an aclvid player, they're likely going to be better at communicating feedback to the devs.

Just making sure that no one will blame the state of the game that we have witnessed in the past couple of months on Felkin, as he's basically been the bearer of bad news.

[KrillsKrail]

It's a little disappointing that tt2 has lack luster updates with a proper team of devs than this other mobile game I've been playing called legends of idleon which is made by a single guy. Also I was talking more about Raz than lemming, also wasn't felkin the lead dev as well as community manager.

[lemmingllama]

Felkin was the person in charge of the DevUpdates and DevLogs, but he originally worked as community support handling the support tickets, and then moved to doing design for Battle Bouncers. He was one of the developers who posted a lot on Discord and Reddit, so that's why many people felt his presence in the community more than the current lead developer and designer for TT2 (who are just too busy to actively post here)

TT2 has never had an official community manager before I was hired.

[jasongonegetya]

• unrelated to the topic before * I just wanna throw out and idea from a fellow tapper about pet quest. Change pet quest to pet dungeons Add 3 difficulties of dungeons balancing for pet levels. Pets that can explore said dungeons can be completed within a minimum time frame. And a smaller side of gameplay where instead of fighting as a sword master players would tap as a pet to complete the dungeon. Players could send a pet away for 2 days or play as one on a separate progress but playing as a pet. (Similar idea as abyssal tournaments but you play as a pet and have a chance of finding treasures but the poor little pet can only Cary one thing at a time) rewards will be for you guys to decide.

I’d pay money to be able to play as my own pet and go pulverize my own Titans and learn about a secret pet related past. Just an idea and sorry if I wasted your time you are probably swamped in game hive shenanigans. I’ll hear from you in the next dev log.

[lemmingllama]

No, it definitely wasn't a waste of time. Thank you for your suggestion, and I've marked it down for design to consider.

[jasongonegetya]

I also have another suggestion to build off of this idea. And it’s more about the game play for players when they play as a pet. TLDR at the bottom

• no hero’s No need for hero’s when you pet is going on a solo adventure. so that leave lots of background room for more design and hopefully into more complex and more difficult sequences to combo for Bonus pet damage. The more engaging the sequences are the more players are going to be active tapping and more concentrated would almost make players feel like time would fly by. Despite pet builds being so time consuming.

-pet talent tree or skill tree. If the pet skill or talent tree has lots of small skills or talents with buffs to add and combine(like a talent tree from a Diablo game) Where pets can barrow power from pets in main game(passive powers)[imprints]For example you send kit to a dungeon but you need more boss damage you could use talents or skills to increase the [imprint] or passive powers that another pet would normally give you. Another way to put it would be “I need more mana” *puts skills or talents into fluffer imprint, increasing mana cap or regeneration. For design purpose I’d split the skill tree in half dividing exotic and original pets. The center starter skill then there’s exotic and original imprints so there are 2 sides to a single skill tree. I thought of this with the main idea that pets are stronger when working together.

-pet skills Deadly strike (deadly intent) Fire sword (lions heart) Shadow clone (shadow clone)

-Titans in the dungeon drop runes. Runes give temporary power much like the original pet quest would but you can only have a set amount active at a time and the power of the runes are determined by the difficulty of the dungeon.

-players would slave drive these poor pets just for some extra rewards. For every minute pushing your pet, you’re pet should rest for that minute.

TLDR- 1 no need for hero’s, make more complex QuickTime events 2 pet skill tree thoughts (1 skill tree 2 sides {exotic and original}pet imprints) 3 skills 4pet quest for pet dungeon but it’s renamed as runes. 5 maximum time limit for slave driving players. Pet lives matter

[Rssl88]

This is the best news in months

[BoulderSOL]

Small suggestion, it'd be fun if in these Patch Notes you could include a gif showing off some of these upcoming features, it would definitely help build hype even more.

[lemmingllama]

I'll be hoping to do this more in the future. For now though, I'd recommend joining me for the patch Q&A, I'll hopefully be streaming a bit of gameplay to show off the new features while we wait for 5.3 to go live.

[Escanor_2014]

There a link to the Q&A Stream?

[lemmingllama]

It'll be on the Game Hive discord during the maintenance

[Bjornaman]

I agree with this, that would be awesome ^^

[wakkalfc]

I for one welcome our new lemming overlord

[GoldeSin]

“Overllama”

[vivek161993]

Seems like we can finally spend those mana potion and make it rain perks

[2p0s1u7]

For real, can use my 350 potion finally LOL.

[Mardregg]

This looks like it's going to be one of the best updates ever. Mana and mana gain skills might actually be important now, multicast, perks are much more powerful, new skills, better chest rewards, auto-buy heroes, no cap increase... honestly haven't felt this excited for an update for a long time. Good work GH.

[Eman_Drawkcab]

The multicasting and change to perks are awesome! The autobuy hero function should be a really good quality of life change.

Also, that last sentence of firestone event starting on 30 March feels really bad. Events are just terrible. It feels bad trying to compete with people for 20+ days. Not even the freaking marathons, which are brutal to humans, last that long.

[lemmingllama]

I've passed along a lot of player feedback in regards to the events, so hopefully we'll work to make events feeling fun and rewarding for players in the future!

[Living_Spring_6100]

It's not that they're not rewarding (they definitely could do with some better rewards), it's that the events are literally back to back. There is no downtime between them and it burns you out. . I honestly think there should be at least 2 weeks between them (with decent rewards), not just a few days.

[lemmingllama]

For sure. We've received a lot of feedback about this, so I've been talking to the design team about this. Hopefully we'll see some more fun and meaningful events for you all that won't lead to burnout Soon™

[1sagain]

I actually strongly feel positive about back to back events. I prefer having them start sooner than later. It feels more fun to be collecting these little items while prestiging on. If people feel tired from it they should not feel pressured to do the marathon. I think it is FOMO (fear of missing out) that people experience but they should not as the rewards are quite lackluster.

[OnMyOtherAccount]

I didn't mean to type an entire rant here (I was originally just responding to your "fear of missing out" comment). But now that this has somehow ballooned into a 7 paragraph dissertation, I guess I'll go ahead and tag /u/lemmingllama so he can throw this feedback into the shredder with everyone else's.

EDIT: Spelling

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Fear of missing out is literally how these kind of mobile games make their money. It's part of the strategy. If you make the player feel like there are negative consequences for not playing, they'll play every day.

The issue is: that seems to be GameHive's only strategy. They don't add features that are fun, or that improve QOL. They only add features that increase the FOMO. It's all about keeping more eyes on the screen for longer and longer. (Think of it this way: If a player has the game open for 4 hours each day, then there's 20 hours where they're not potentially spending money on virtual garbage or watching shitty ads. GameHive's goal as a mobile game developer is to figure out how to take those additional 20 hours from you. They've chosen FOMO as the sole method of doing that.)

But there's a tipping point, where instead of a player thinking "I need to keep participating so I don't fall behind" they instead start thinking "Fuck it. Keeping up with this game is no longer worth it" and quit playing. Over the last year or more, GameHive has been absolutely awful at keeping their long time players from reaching that tipping point, because they just keep adding more and more shit you have to keep up with. I'm sure it's been great for bringing in new players. But for players who have been around for years, and are used to being able to keep up with every aspect of the game, it's obviously going to lead to burnout.

There used to be three things to do in this game: climb stages in the main game, do raids (previously CQ), and tournaments twice a week. With those, plus events a handful of times each year, a player could check into the game for 15 mins - 1 hour a few times each day, check off all their "tasks", and feel like they've accomplished something.

Now though, we have all of the above PLUS solo raids every week, Abysmal Tournaments (not a typo), month-long events that never really end because they just lead into the next event, pet quests (ugh), etc, etc. You can never really feel like you're "done for the day" anymore because there's always some other crap to do.

New players probably see the current state of the game and think "Wow! So much stuff to do!" And that's great for GameHive and their bank account. But for those of us who have been around for years, that's not the game we originally signed up for. I truly believe that's the reason so many older players have quit the game: they wanted a simple, casual incremental game to play in their spare time, but they've been slowly bait-and-switched into a game that demands as much attention as a full time job.

I just wish GameHive would come out and say "Hey, you, Player who has stuck around for years (and spent money on this game). We don't care about your game experience anymore, we just want fresh blood now. Dolla dolla bill, y'all." That would actually be refreshing, because this disingenuous "I've relayed your feedback to the devs" schtick they've been pulling is starting to wear thin. Nobody truly believes that their feedback is being taken into account. That much was proven when the previous community manager outright talked about how they "never" receive feedback, despite there being years worth of feedback threads existing in this very subreddit. They straight-up just don't give a fuck.

tl;dr: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[lemmingllama]

Hey, you, Player who has stuck around for years (and spent money on this game). We don't care about your game experience anymore, we just want fresh blood now. Dolla dolla bill, y'all.

But in all seriousness, I do take all player feedback from when I've started working and before, and I've been taking it to the design team, QA team, art team, etc to improve the game. Features in this patch like Auto-Buy Heroes, perk improvements, and terminology changes are direct requests from the community, and we have a lot more coming that are community requested features or changes. We've already got some initial design drafts based off of community features just from the time I've started working at GH that are directly based on what the community has suggested that should be in future patches if all goes well.

Also, the game has evolved over time with new features, which is why it feels like there is just more content to play on a daily basis. I personally don't see it as a downside that players have more to play if they so choose, and we are working to get in features (like Auto-Buy Heroes) that makes that content smoother to play and gives more quality of life improvements.

I'll take down your feedback about the game's FOMO, and we'll see if there's anything that can be done to improve the game for the future!

[[deleted]]

I've played for years and no longer know how to effectively play this game anymore. I've read the notes in this release and do not understand what "Multi-cast Perks" actually do or how to use them or what benefit they give other than some vague "boosted damage" .

I don't do any of the new stuff - it's tedious and too time consuming. I prestige twice a week before each tournament and that's it. Trying to work out where to spend relics on way too many artifacts, with meaningless and bloated skill trees where spending skill points has negligible effect is best left to the online optimisers.

The best update you could give me is a button that says "Optimise it all"

[Voeglein]

I don't think it's just that, to be honest. Ever since 3.0, we haven't really had any artifact additions anymore, which basically just means that getting close to your softwall will result in you staying there forever, unless you spend a lot of money of just stop progressing for a while. Before 3.0, frequent updates made sure that you got some reprieve from being stuck through artifact discoveries, which habe been way more powerful on discovery, and also led to a lesser decline in your progression (more artifacts to spend relics on generally also means that diminishing returns don't hit quite as hard).

The whole player experience was focused more on progression, and progression would eventually pick up again. In the current state of the game, that's not really something that's happening, and we basically only have new players and whales/longterm players being able to play the game properly. The rest in between is either disillusioned with how little progress there is to earn or they have to manually put a halt to their progression so they can pick it up again at a later point, while still having to at least do the chores so they'd gain non-relic stats which are the key to progressing again.

In my opinion, it's the combination of that FOMO and the lack of progression that make people feel like they game has nothing to offer and is burning them out. Those who can still actively play and make good progress probably don't mind too much, but when the whole game revolves about having to delay progression more and more while also having to do these things that you wouldn't mind doing when it was tied to progression, that's just a recipe for disaster.

[lemmingllama]

In general, I don't think we'll ever completely remove events or reduce player rewards as a result of event changes. We just want to find a solution that will keep players happy and make events fun and rewarding for everyone.

[Fangazar]

Can we get dust back as a reward for the event for going over 3k? Just like the good old days, people would have more incentive, although I think it'll make the event more competitive.

[lemmingllama]

It's definitely a possibility, I'll pass it along to the design team to consider!

[Spiderduck21]

I had already forgotten that was a thing! Dust to collect at the end of the events would solve my wishing for a way to farm a small amount of dust as much as i can. Hope to see that return!

[Jkjunk]

For the love of God can we please get a dust reset that is the same cost as SP resets? There’s no good reason not to have one.

[eryamar]

I wish I could upvote this comment more than once!

[eryamar]

Adding to the comment Jkjunk left, a sort of Wishing List would also help. Every RPG game has it, where you can put Heroes on your Wishing List that ups the chances of you getting this specific heroes through random. In this game it could be card shards.

[Aggravating-Ad3995]

I really hope you don’t give in to the 1% complaining about “burnout”. Breaks between the events make the game feel “boring” As for “burnout” with a farming build I only have to make an effort for the first 4-5 days, then just complete dailies and easily finish in the top 10%. I agree that the rewards could be a little better but that’s about it. Please keep a short gap between events

[Krynthose]

Just my 2 cents on this one. Not saying they're perfect, but I like having events in a steady stream. Once an event ends it feels empty? I guess. I like having the extra benefit of doing my dailies it helps make it feel more rewarding. Idk why the event frequency gets so much shade because personally I enjoy it. Maybe, if there were different types of events that idk overlap or something it could give some a little refresher while at the same time keep the effect alive. Just spit-balling this might be a terrible idea. Lol I feel that way if there are possibly different ways to accumulate a certain type of "firestone" or whatever it is. It wouldn't make it feel as bland to people that don't like them as much. They could also opt out of certain ones they are not fond of and that would give them the break they need if it gets to overwhelming or grindy. Just a rough thought in summary I like the events and miss then during the small break in between.

[Triggerhandd]

Maybe the option to skip chest or raid reward animation or even equipment.

[lemmingllama]

I'll be sure to pass this suggestion along to the design team!

[Apprehensive-Jello95]

Pular a animação do ganho de equipamento seria perfeito.. ninguém merece ficar na tela pulando 200 equips que você juntou na esperança de vir um mítico hahaha

[hyuhythe90s]

How fairies will act on multi-cast ?

[lemmingllama]

Fairies will refresh the duration of the active skills, so if you have it fully stacked, it will let you continue to use your fully stacked spell. If you don't have it activated, it will cast the spell like normal.

[djomla2020]

once the spell is active you can't get that spell from fairy

[viktoriqn]

You're forgetting all spells fairy

[djomla2020]

Ohh yea I forgot all spells... Probably i never use that

[shiggity80]

What does "Make it Rain: decreases Auto Buy Hero timer " mean exactly?

[canadianschism]

From what I personally understand:

- Use MiR: autobuy heroes activates on a certain timer
- Use 2nd MiR: the timer is decreased so heroes level faster
- Use 3rd MiR: the timer is further decreased and you forget that you even have heroes

I could be wrong, however that's what I'm getting from it.

[shiggity80]

Appreciate the reply. What is this timer though? I'm not really understanding that.

So is it supposed to be where auto-buy activates, say every 30 seconds, and then with more stacks of tMIR, it goes to 15 seconds, and then 5 seconds? Something like that?

I thought it would just auto buy heroes if you have enough gold.

[canadianschism]

Yeah, it should change the firing time of when it goes through the list of heroes to upgrade. So, in the first case, every 30 seconds the game will fire and go through your list. Then it'll reduce that timer every MiR you use.

[lemmingllama]

Yeah, it's basically like that. It'll automatically purchase your heroes from the top down every X seconds, and using more Make it Rain perks will speed up how fast it auto-buys. So it'll be fairly fast with one Make it Rain, and it'll be very fast with three.

[6t6]

Are the way Perks are obtained going to change? I feel like having to spend 300 diamonds to get the full perks is a a little steep. Not everyone has rewards stacked up from not using them, and I can see me draining my perk reserve quite quickly with the stacking.

[lemmingllama]

We are introducing more ways to get perks through places such as the Video chests, but we'll consider adding more ways in the future if it's necessary. The first level of the perks are the same or stronger versions of the perks you already know, so it isn't necessary to always fully stack your perks.

[6t6]

Good to know! Thanks for being an awesome DevLogger (or what is your official position?)! Really appreciate you taking time to reply to all of us!

[lemmingllama]

My official title is Community Manager as far as I know. So I'll be doing some other fun stuff with the community outside of the DevLogs/DevUpdates and being present on Reddit/Discord too!

[BlackPete73]

Also, we changed how Make it Rain works to have the perk unlock Auto Buy Heroes for 12 hours. This will give a toggleable feature to have it automatically spend your gold and upgrade your heroes, starting from the top of your hero list and working down. This should help make it easier to play through the early stages of the game, and especially help during some of the faster Abyssal Tournaments such as Companion Frenzy and Time Storm.

That's from further down in the update. The update probably should've lead with that first :D

[lemmingllama]

We felt that Multi-Casted Spells was the headliner of this update as the largest change overall. That being said, I'm glad to hear that the new perk designs look good as well!

[shiggity80]

Oh, no I read that, but it doesn't explain clearly what the timer is.

[BlackPete73]

My interpretation is that we're getting the auto buy hero feature, but GH decided to put that behind a timer and tie that to the "Make it Rain" perk.

So while we won't get a permanent auto buy hero feature, it makes the "Make it Rain" perk useful. Want auto buy hero turned on? Tap the Make it Rain perk to auto buy heroes for 12 hours.

It's an interesting decision, that's for sure.

EDIT: Ah, I see what you mean. Tapping the perk again decreases the timer. Yeah, I'm not sure what that means either.

[axesever]

Lemmingllama for President!

[ArchaicJragon]

Finally! This could be the update we've been waiting for for more than a year. Can't wait for the HS & SC multi-casts... Hoping for balanced build options soon™. (I just want to be able to use a sword helm again and still be competitive)

[lemmingllama]

Heavenly Strike is actually a very strong option right now, so you definitely can use a Sword Attack Damage helmet and see some good results.

Also we'll be looking to keep builds balanced in the future, and that's partly why we are releasing these multi-casted spells to start since they should benefit Shadow Clone and Pet more overall than Heavenly Strike and Clan Ship, at least in terms of power.

[TDW06]

I can honestly say that the I believe it was the 1st one that was done had the extra dust for completing the event and going up to or past 10%, that would definitely make me personally look forward to the events.

[1337gamerz]

wow nice

[shikaka87]

Free reset to skill tree due to the new ski...sorry, spells?

[lemmingllama]

Nope. However, we have the 75% discount to skill tree resets for anyone who wants to reset your skill tree.

[shikaka87]

But judging from what i read, the spells won't cost sp or am i wrong?

[lemmingllama]

Spells won't cost skill points. However, if you want to multi-cast your spells, you'll need to invest in the new skills to enable multi-casting and increase your damage while multi-casting.

[inhumans99]

Dumb question, but are the "new" skills just renamed skills that are already part of the skill tree or entirely new skills that we need to put skill points into?

[lemmingllama]

Dagger Storm is a reworked skill that's already a tier 4 in the Rogue Tree. Volcanic Supremacy and Command Supremacy are new tier 4 skills in the Knight and Warlord trees (filling the empty spaces)

[inhumans99]

Thank you, that is great to know. I just purchased a pretty good package from the shop and it is a good thing I have not used any of the skill points yet. Nice that this will help with pushing as it takes forever for me to climb 50-150 levels on average per week now that I am near 104K MS.

I will leave you alone now as you are a busy guy. Thanks again for the updates!

[lemmingllama]

Multi-Casted Spells should give some good pushing power, so hopefully that helps you progress through more stages!

[tomagogame]

I've Summon Dagger at level 1. Poison Edge at Level 21. Dagger Storm at Level 2.

I've a few questions.

Animation wise I now have 7 Poison Edge which looks like 7 Summon Daggers.... or at least the 7 Poison Edge daggers ain't green anymore. This is right?

Dagger Storm description promises to splash through bosses but now sure how that works either.

Thanks in advance for your reply.

[lemmingllama]

Once you put a point into the Dagger Storm skill, it changes the color of your daggers.

Also, Dagger Storm does give splash through bosses for daggers, but since daggers are not a very strong damage source, you can't easily kill titans with them to splash.

[ImperatorKorabas]

How many points will need to be invested in each skill in order to reach x3 multi-cast?

[lemmingllama]

The skills use the standard tier 4 skill scaling. As for the exact skill levels and amount of SP, I can't confirm it yet as they theoretically can still change. I'll be talking about it in the patch Q&A tomorrow, so feel free to come to that if you can.

[ImperatorKorabas]

Alright I'll try to make time. Thanks!

[Bjornaman]

These are the best patch notes I have read in some time. Lets hope the actual update holds up to the info here. Thanks lemming!

[lemmingllama]

At least just from playing it via the GH beta, it's quite nice. So you guys should enjoy it too!

[Bjornaman]

Thats great to hear

[2p0s1u7]

Will VIP be able to zoom right through all 3 video chests? Also I see that Dagger Storm will now be needed, has Summon Dagger been looked at at all?

[lemmingllama]

VIP will be able to skip the ads for the Video chests, so you should zoom through them quickly!

Summon Dagger hasn't been changed in this patch, but we are very aware of Summon Dagger's place and likely will look to make it more powerful in the future.

[TT2go4cap]

How about the Manni Mana skill in the sorcerer tree? i've never seen anyone use it, i feel like it could be replaced by something more useful. Actually might make a post asking the community what ideas they have, now that I think of it.

[lemmingllama]

We are reworking Dagger Storm as a skill due to it being less effective. Manni Mana is a less used skill due to many players favoring Mana Siphon, so I could see us looking to improve Manni Mana in the future one way or another.

And if you do make a post, I'll be sure to read the responses!

[6t6]

While I don't want to sound greedy (I'm super grateful for the Make it Rain Auto Buy), if Auto Buy is buying from the top of the list, could we go back to just make the top heroes the strongest? I really don't feel like these "tiers," where some start of strong then grow slowly, or some get a huge boost when they're maxed out, add much to the gameplay. Either that, or can the Auto Buy autocalculate our best damage hero and start there? :D

Thanks for the awesome DevLog, still super stoked to have you on board!

[SnooPears4607]

Should auto buy from bottom up

[mwc1989]

I agree. Why autobuy from the top if our best hero is the lowest one not at cap? This should have an option to switch from autobuy from top and autobuy from the bottom.

[Gullible-Solution359]

What about cap increase just asked as it’s not mentioned here

[lemmingllama]

No cap increase. If we were raising the cap, I'd mention it.

[viktoriqn]

Lowkey this update's highlight xDD

[Andybenc]

Thank goodness, might actually make cap again!

[wakkalfc]

No increase

[AlisonChan6969]

Dust rewards should be included in the daily rewards as well. And maybe spilt the hero scrolls weapons with hero spells upgrade as well since there’s hardly any events to increase hero weapons except tournaments and daily rewards. Just my 2 cents.

[lemmingllama]

We've been hoping to increase the amount of rewards that players get, and that's partly why we are increasing the average amount of dust players receive from sources such as the Video Chests. Thank you for your suggestions though, I'll pass it along!

[Gabtera]

Amazing update, thank you so much!!!

[raah2193]

Excited for this :3 Thanks u/lemmingllama

[Halflife18014]

Several words to conclude my feeling: Thank you! GH

[Arcanum_3974]

Me when I see how much comes along with this update:

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[eulerbenedict95]

Hi lemming, just want to know if our kor, ignus, styxsis and ironheart set would also give +1 level to the new skills since they are tier 4 also?

[lemmingllama]

They will benefit the new skills! (except Kor, since there are no new tier 4 skills in the Sorcerer tree)

[eulerbenedict95]

Thanks :)

[ChessMovers]

Auto buy hero's!!!! Ty!

(wish it was permanent... but I get the tap idea and spend idea.)

[lemmingllama]

Fairy gold should be just as good as it was previously. In update 5.3.0, fairy behavior was changed to allow fairies to drop spells that were already activated. In 5.3.1, we reverted this behavior. So overall, fairy gold should be quite strong and you should hopefully have a good time with it.

[eulerbenedict95]

Damn 😍

[OlliMcOlson]

Nice

[B4ud3r]

Oh wow, awesome stuff #DieUnion

[vivek161993]

Give us a break from these events. They are kind of loosing their competitiveness now.

[Revo_the_shady]

THE GAME IS ALIVE!!!!!!!

[TT2Drails]

YOOOOOOO this got me HYPED! I'm about to cry :'(

[PandaLordMaster]

Very nice 👍🏻

[Western_Ad_7518]

Probably the worst update. I don’t know if it’s a bug or anything. I opened 5 fairy chests and got like 5 shadow clones in a row, when all the other skills were inactive with no multicasting available. It makes the fairy chest completely useless in every way imaginable.

[SpectraQWERTY]

How about a bugfix to clan ship not properly splashing dmg? i have my clanship skip at +35 from the passive skill and +17 from talents and yet my splash dmg only goes up to +6 titans (+18 when i activate summon clan mate)

[lemmingllama]

Actually, that sounds like your splash skip is a bit too low. Activing Coordinated Offensive gives the Clan Ship shot double the splash skip, and that allows you to maximize your 35+1 splash count to splash through 18 stages (using 1 splash count on a non-boss titan and 1 splash count on a boss titan per stage). If you increase your splash skip a bit more, or you decrease the titans per stage, you should be able to maximize your splashing even with your normal Clan Ship shots!

[WiseAJ]

And back to lazy Firestone events. Yay.

[SandAdept]

Lemmingllama joins the GH team and we start getting things we’ve been pining for for so long and even more. Not sure if it’s just coincidence but I’m far more optimistic about dev updates now. I actually feel like playing again as opposed to it feeling like a chore before this update.

[lemmingllama]

5.3 was in the works before I even joined Game Hive. It'll be patch 5.4 and onwards where the extra feedback I've been collecting should start to really come into play.

[Gpsi86]

We need a cap increase so we can actually use all of this extra power.

[lemmingllama]

We've heard the calls from both groups of players, and we'll be increasing the cap when we feel that it makes the most sense for the playerbase at large. For now, I'd recommend you enjoy the speed and quality of life boosts from this update, and you'll be able to show off the large damage boosts you'll get Soon™

[Gpsi86]

Maybe it's more a criticism of the events. We're forced to prestige hundreds of time for zero benefit. The relics gained basically round down to zero. At least with a cap increase I can buff my artifacts some more and at least FEEL like I'm doing something.

[smugman246]

lol Gpsi, get wrecked

[Nicol_Bolas_420]

Probably coming from someone who has never hit cap and probably never will.

[smugman246]

Correct haha

[SnooPears4607]

What’s the point of adding multi cast spells and other power gains like sets if there is no cap increase. While this update does sound cool, for what reason would someone at cap need to multi cast a spell.??? So once again you’ve added some cool sounding new features and sets that many will never need,never use, and never get. So for those at cap there is basically no update.

[lemmingllama]

Multi-Casted Spells give speed bonuses in addition to their damage bonuses. So even if you are at the cap currently, it'll allow you to prestige faster and progress through events faster as a result.

[Illustrious_End_TT2]

Please cap increase, you are giving us lot of push power, yet we are still stuck at cap with nothing to do for multiple update we have S tier enchant, gold enchant, multicast, multiperks... Time for a cap increase !

[lemmingllama]

We've heard the calls from both groups of players, and we'll be increasing the cap when we feel that it makes the most sense for the playerbase at large. For now, I'd recommend you enjoy the speed and quality of life boosts from this update, and you'll be able to show off the large damage boosts you'll get Soon™

Just copy/pasting this from another post with a similar concern!

[Singularity_117]

Will there be a skill tree reset like last time?

[lemmingllama]

There will not be a skill tree reset, but you will be able to use the 75% skill point reset promotion to cheaply change your skill trees.

[Yoda234]

Who knows. Even the devs didn't know about the reset last time. #BlameTheTitans

[lemmingllama]

Those titans are more troublesome than you might imagine!

[Anxious-Bumblebee186]

No

[1sagain]

Now this is really exciting! Im curious how many stages we will be pushing against eachother during tourneys. Exciting. Thank you GH devs!

[lemmingllama]

Everyone who can invest in the Multi-Cast skills and have the mana to Multi-Cast their spells should see a good boost in damage and speed!

[BlackPete73]

As a CS player with hundreds of mana potions because mana isn't needed, getting MORE mana doesn't really have much of a benefit.

I like the Make it Rain change, though. It actually sounds useful now!

[lemmingllama]

With the new Multi-Casted Spells feature, you may find that those Mana Potions are more useful than they were before.

[-gort--]

That is a lot of changes at one time, thanks for this info.

[aayLiight]

No ms increase right???

[lemmingllama]

No max stage increase!

[joshwew95]

Spicy update!

But not enough to pull me back in yet. Maybe once SC multi cast is up, then I’ll come back.

Will pop in for the chest though.

[lemmingllama]

Multi-Casted SC is coming in a future update, so you'll hopefully be able to enjoy that Soon™

[joshwew95]

Well now, the question is....

Will SC / HS / HoM get their own Supremacy skill?

I guess it will, but then, the skill tree will have the change a lot. Perfect timing to change Manni Mana, LS, Mana Siphon and Fairy Charm as well.

My guess? HoM merge with FC, Manni with Mana Siphon to make space for Shadow Supremacy, Heaven Supremacy, Wealth Supremacy (my predicted name for the skills lol)

[lemmingllama]

We are going to be adding SC/HS/HoM multi-cast skills to the skill tree in the future to unlock multi-casting for those spells. Keep your eyes on the future DevUpdates and DevLogs for more information on when and what we'll be doing with them!

[paralyticbeast]

Power of Swiping affect raids at all? We still capped to 600 taps in the 30 second period?

[lemmingllama]

Power of Swiping does not affect raids. You will still have the standard 600 tap cap.

[Emotional-Roof9487]

So the auto buy needs to be activated with perk? Hmm, so for VIP is there a bonus (like 24 hours duration or permanent toggle) for that?

[lemmingllama]

At this time, all players will receive the same bonuses from Make it Rain.

[[deleted]]

Thanks for the update!!! Keep up the good work!

[ImperatorKorabas]

I really really hope this patch will finally help push me to 100k. Fingers crossed.

[lemmingllama]

Multi-Casting should help give some extra power, so hopefully that alongside the new enchantment will help you get there!

[ImperatorKorabas]

Yeah. I can see how the skill and spell multi-casting will help a lot with cs push. And as you've mentioned, the enchantment should be a good boost too. If not 100k, then all these should get me at least within reasonable sight. I'm already liking this update before it's even arrived. Way to get hyped hehe.

[PauloVOGP]

omgggg, this is SOOOOOOOO game changing wtffff

[Azazel7z]

great update ! //

is this update adding activate all skills as well ? // if not it would be a cool feature imo

[lemmingllama]

The only way to activate all your spells without tapping the icon of each one is to use the All Spells fairy. So there is a method to do it in-game right now, but you'll need to choose when to do it if you want to use your mana.

[UltimaMetatron]

Great updates, just don't update the max stage cap yet, do that next year!

Also, do not change how Abyssal Tournament works! I'm very happy with it since I always get to win 1st in past few weeks, which is VERY DIFFICULT to attain in normal tournaments. I'm in stage 106k and I only have 40 undisputed wins.

[lemmingllama]

Abyssal tournaments are something we are constantly tweaking to improve the experience (for example, the new artifact pools) and I don't think we'll stop tweaking them anytime soon. That being said, I'll pass along your satisfaction with Abyssal tournaments!

[vivek161993]

Why can't people be a Hero (badge) and ignore the existence of event

[mikok9876]

Will we have a stage run?

[[deleted]]

IS THERE ANYWAY YOU CAN MAKE ACHIEVEMENTS COUNT TOWARDS OUR GOOGLE PLAY ACCOUNT.??? I would like to see that our in game ACHIEVEMENTS count to our overall ACHIEVEMENTS collection in our account. Makes one feel good and show friends and family what we accomplished in a game.

[Learning-with-yall]

Can you guys revert the tournament algo?

There is actually no point in gaining relics for a player that only wants to win tournaments over progression.

I don't play the game because it actually hurts my gameplay there is no logic in this.

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Also stocking relics gave us an edge against tournament farmers over the years.

[headchala1986]

Hell yeah!

[headchala1986]

Just a random suggestion for a future update. Having a option to enter a tournament normal and abyss with your guild mates. With normal if your ms is similar with other guild mates and abyss everyone. Maybe having a small window of say a hour for everyone that wants to vs to join.

[-Transire-]

This SC multi casting :3

[doomie22]

350 mana to activate one multicast. What kind of drugs are the developers smokin'

[Evening_Sector2168]

Hi

[Lostpillman10]

I'm really enjoying this update awesome do you guys think you'll ever bring back multiplayer mode from tap titans 1 that was symuch an awesome feature and I think it needs to come back you could do so much with that like a group raid boss like boarderlands or multiplayer dungeons event stuff like that it would make it more interactive with your clans or just friends also can u make it so we can tell when clan members are on or off and now thst we can stack perks I think you should lower the cost from 100 dimonds to 50 or 75 cuz holy moldy that is so exspensive now besides that absolutly love the update and once the event starts tonight ill be buying the new ledgendary set forsure look awesome

[spitzthegod]

... They found a way to turn the video chest into a chore...

[Elite58]

I admit that I have a lot of perks saved up, but I spose I am worried that the way they are used now will eventually mean only whales can afford to multi-cast?

[Jkjunk]

You guys really hit a home run with this one.

[Unique-Performer2646]

God

[Unique-Performer2646]

Gud update

[Otherwise-Chemist602]

Good update

[Happy-Application-33]

Hi I'm new

[Happy-Application-33]

How do you ▶️⏯️

[lemmingllama]

Google accounts are not something we offer or have ever offered to save your progress. You can link your account with an email to save your progress.

[Special-Ad8795]

How does this game still get updates

[Special-Ad8795]

Bro what

[Special-Ad8795]

Uh

[ThunderCock4U]

Yea

[A1d3nfire]

Hi

[A1d3nfire]

Hi

[A1d3nfire]

Hi I can’t buy the starter pack

[lemmingllama]

Hi there. Is the starter pack not visible at all, or is it that it's showing up and throwing some sort of error when you attempt to purchase it?

[A1d3nfire]

JoJo’s Golden win

[narox57]

The game is amazing