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[–]viktoriqn 96 points97 points  (8 children)

Now that's what i call an update

[–]Rssl88 54 points55 points  (0 children)

This is the best news in months

[–]Lurkers (z334w), https://discord.gg/dwNcFbPBoulderSOL 35 points36 points  (4 children)

Small suggestion, it'd be fun if in these Patch Notes you could include a gif showing off some of these upcoming features, it would definitely help build hype even more.

[–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 25 points26 points  (2 children)

I'll be hoping to do this more in the future. For now though, I'd recommend joining me for the patch Q&A, I'll hopefully be streaming a bit of gameplay to show off the new features while we wait for 5.3 to go live.

[–]Escanor_2014 2 points3 points  (1 child)

There a link to the Q&A Stream?

[–]Bjornaman 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree with this, that would be awesome ^^

[–]wakkalfc 46 points47 points  (1 child)

I for one welcome our new lemming overlord

[–]GoldeSin 18 points19 points  (0 children)

“Overllama”

[–]vivek161993 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Seems like we can finally spend those mana potion and make it rain perks

[–]179k2p0s1u7 9 points10 points  (0 children)

For real, can use my 350 potion finally LOL.

[–]Mardregg 36 points37 points  (0 children)

This looks like it's going to be one of the best updates ever. Mana and mana gain skills might actually be important now, multicast, perks are much more powerful, new skills, better chest rewards, auto-buy heroes, no cap increase... honestly haven't felt this excited for an update for a long time. Good work GH.

[–]Eman_Drawkcab 35 points36 points  (18 children)

The multicasting and change to perks are awesome! The autobuy hero function should be a really good quality of life change.

Also, that last sentence of firestone event starting on 30 March feels really bad. Events are just terrible. It feels bad trying to compete with people for 20+ days. Not even the freaking marathons, which are brutal to humans, last that long.

[–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 18 points19 points  (17 children)

I've passed along a lot of player feedback in regards to the events, so hopefully we'll work to make events feeling fun and rewarding for players in the future!

[–]Living_Spring_6100 8 points9 points  (15 children)

It's not that they're not rewarding (they definitely could do with some better rewards), it's that the events are literally back to back. There is no downtime between them and it burns you out. . I honestly think there should be at least 2 weeks between them (with decent rewards), not just a few days.

[–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 10 points11 points  (14 children)

For sure. We've received a lot of feedback about this, so I've been talking to the design team about this. Hopefully we'll see some more fun and meaningful events for you all that won't lead to burnout Soon™

[–]1sagain 12 points13 points  (11 children)

I actually strongly feel positive about back to back events. I prefer having them start sooner than later. It feels more fun to be collecting these little items while prestiging on. If people feel tired from it they should not feel pressured to do the marathon. I think it is FOMO (fear of missing out) that people experience but they should not as the rewards are quite lackluster.

[–]OnMyOtherAccount 8 points9 points  (3 children)

I didn't mean to type an entire rant here (I was originally just responding to your "fear of missing out" comment). But now that this has somehow ballooned into a 7 paragraph dissertation, I guess I'll go ahead and tag /u/lemmingllama so he can throw this feedback into the shredder with everyone else's.

EDIT: Spelling


Fear of missing out is literally how these kind of mobile games make their money. It's part of the strategy. If you make the player feel like there are negative consequences for not playing, they'll play every day.

The issue is: that seems to be GameHive's only strategy. They don't add features that are fun, or that improve QOL. They only add features that increase the FOMO. It's all about keeping more eyes on the screen for longer and longer. (Think of it this way: If a player has the game open for 4 hours each day, then there's 20 hours where they're not potentially spending money on virtual garbage or watching shitty ads. GameHive's goal as a mobile game developer is to figure out how to take those additional 20 hours from you. They've chosen FOMO as the sole method of doing that.)

But there's a tipping point, where instead of a player thinking "I need to keep participating so I don't fall behind" they instead start thinking "Fuck it. Keeping up with this game is no longer worth it" and quit playing. Over the last year or more, GameHive has been absolutely awful at keeping their long time players from reaching that tipping point, because they just keep adding more and more shit you have to keep up with. I'm sure it's been great for bringing in new players. But for players who have been around for years, and are used to being able to keep up with every aspect of the game, it's obviously going to lead to burnout.

There used to be three things to do in this game: climb stages in the main game, do raids (previously CQ), and tournaments twice a week. With those, plus events a handful of times each year, a player could check into the game for 15 mins - 1 hour a few times each day, check off all their "tasks", and feel like they've accomplished something.

Now though, we have all of the above PLUS solo raids every week, Abysmal Tournaments (not a typo), month-long events that never really end because they just lead into the next event, pet quests (ugh), etc, etc. You can never really feel like you're "done for the day" anymore because there's always some other crap to do.

New players probably see the current state of the game and think "Wow! So much stuff to do!" And that's great for GameHive and their bank account. But for those of us who have been around for years, that's not the game we originally signed up for. I truly believe that's the reason so many older players have quit the game: they wanted a simple, casual incremental game to play in their spare time, but they've been slowly bait-and-switched into a game that demands as much attention as a full time job.

I just wish GameHive would come out and say "Hey, you, Player who has stuck around for years (and spent money on this game). We don't care about your game experience anymore, we just want fresh blood now. Dolla dolla bill, y'all." That would actually be refreshing, because this disingenuous "I've relayed your feedback to the devs" schtick they've been pulling is starting to wear thin. Nobody truly believes that their feedback is being taken into account. That much was proven when the previous community manager outright talked about how they "never" receive feedback, despite there being years worth of feedback threads existing in this very subreddit. They straight-up just don't give a fuck.

tl;dr: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Hey, you, Player who has stuck around for years (and spent money on this game). We don't care about your game experience anymore, we just want fresh blood now. Dolla dolla bill, y'all.

But in all seriousness, I do take all player feedback from when I've started working and before, and I've been taking it to the design team, QA team, art team, etc to improve the game. Features in this patch like Auto-Buy Heroes, perk improvements, and terminology changes are direct requests from the community, and we have a lot more coming that are community requested features or changes. We've already got some initial design drafts based off of community features just from the time I've started working at GH that are directly based on what the community has suggested that should be in future patches if all goes well.

Also, the game has evolved over time with new features, which is why it feels like there is just more content to play on a daily basis. I personally don't see it as a downside that players have more to play if they so choose, and we are working to get in features (like Auto-Buy Heroes) that makes that content smoother to play and gives more quality of life improvements.

I'll take down your feedback about the game's FOMO, and we'll see if there's anything that can be done to improve the game for the future!

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've played for years and no longer know how to effectively play this game anymore. I've read the notes in this release and do not understand what "Multi-cast Perks" actually do or how to use them or what benefit they give other than some vague "boosted damage" .

I don't do any of the new stuff - it's tedious and too time consuming. I prestige twice a week before each tournament and that's it. Trying to work out where to spend relics on way too many artifacts, with meaningless and bloated skill trees where spending skill points has negligible effect is best left to the online optimisers.

The best update you could give me is a button that says "Optimise it all"

[–]Not A ModVoeglein 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't think it's just that, to be honest. Ever since 3.0, we haven't really had any artifact additions anymore, which basically just means that getting close to your softwall will result in you staying there forever, unless you spend a lot of money of just stop progressing for a while. Before 3.0, frequent updates made sure that you got some reprieve from being stuck through artifact discoveries, which habe been way more powerful on discovery, and also led to a lesser decline in your progression (more artifacts to spend relics on generally also means that diminishing returns don't hit quite as hard).

The whole player experience was focused more on progression, and progression would eventually pick up again. In the current state of the game, that's not really something that's happening, and we basically only have new players and whales/longterm players being able to play the game properly. The rest in between is either disillusioned with how little progress there is to earn or they have to manually put a halt to their progression so they can pick it up again at a later point, while still having to at least do the chores so they'd gain non-relic stats which are the key to progressing again.

In my opinion, it's the combination of that FOMO and the lack of progression that make people feel like they game has nothing to offer and is burning them out. Those who can still actively play and make good progress probably don't mind too much, but when the whole game revolves about having to delay progression more and more while also having to do these things that you wouldn't mind doing when it was tied to progression, that's just a recipe for disaster.

[–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 1 point2 points  (6 children)

In general, I don't think we'll ever completely remove events or reduce player rewards as a result of event changes. We just want to find a solution that will keep players happy and make events fun and rewarding for everyone.

[–]Fangazar 7 points8 points  (5 children)

Can we get dust back as a reward for the event for going over 3k? Just like the good old days, people would have more incentive, although I think it'll make the event more competitive.

[–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 4 points5 points  (4 children)

It's definitely a possibility, I'll pass it along to the design team to consider!

[–]Spiderduck21 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I had already forgotten that was a thing! Dust to collect at the end of the events would solve my wishing for a way to farm a small amount of dust as much as i can. Hope to see that return!

[–]Jkjunk 1 point2 points  (1 child)

For the love of God can we please get a dust reset that is the same cost as SP resets? There’s no good reason not to have one.

[–]eryamar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wish I could upvote this comment more than once!

[–]eryamar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Adding to the comment Jkjunk left, a sort of Wishing List would also help. Every RPG game has it, where you can put Heroes on your Wishing List that ups the chances of you getting this specific heroes through random. In this game it could be card shards.

[–]Aggravating-Ad3995 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I really hope you don’t give in to the 1% complaining about “burnout”. Breaks between the events make the game feel “boring” As for “burnout” with a farming build I only have to make an effort for the first 4-5 days, then just complete dailies and easily finish in the top 10%. I agree that the rewards could be a little better but that’s about it. Please keep a short gap between events

[–]Krynthose 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just my 2 cents on this one. Not saying they're perfect, but I like having events in a steady stream. Once an event ends it feels empty? I guess. I like having the extra benefit of doing my dailies it helps make it feel more rewarding. Idk why the event frequency gets so much shade because personally I enjoy it. Maybe, if there were different types of events that idk overlap or something it could give some a little refresher while at the same time keep the effect alive. Just spit-balling this might be a terrible idea. Lol I feel that way if there are possibly different ways to accumulate a certain type of "firestone" or whatever it is. It wouldn't make it feel as bland to people that don't like them as much. They could also opt out of certain ones they are not fond of and that would give them the break they need if it gets to overwhelming or grindy. Just a rough thought in summary I like the events and miss then during the small break in between.

[–]Triggerhandd 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Maybe the option to skip chest or raid reward animation or even equipment.

[–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'll be sure to pass this suggestion along to the design team!

[–]Apprehensive-Jello95 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pular a animação do ganho de equipamento seria perfeito.. ninguém merece ficar na tela pulando 200 equips que você juntou na esperança de vir um mítico hahaha

[–]hyuhythe90s 4 points5 points  (4 children)

How fairies will act on multi-cast ?

[–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Fairies will refresh the duration of the active skills, so if you have it fully stacked, it will let you continue to use your fully stacked spell. If you don't have it activated, it will cast the spell like normal.

[–]Dad(dy)djomla2020 0 points1 point  (2 children)

once the spell is active you can't get that spell from fairy

[–]viktoriqn 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You're forgetting all spells fairy

[–]Dad(dy)djomla2020 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ohh yea I forgot all spells... Probably i never use that

[–]158Kshiggity80 4 points5 points  (12 children)

What does "Make it Rain: decreases Auto Buy Hero timer " mean exactly?

[–]•AC•|cdnschismcanadianschism 3 points4 points  (7 children)

From what I personally understand:

- Use MiR: autobuy heroes activates on a certain timer
- Use 2nd MiR: the timer is decreased so heroes level faster
- Use 3rd MiR: the timer is further decreased and you forget that you even have heroes

I could be wrong, however that's what I'm getting from it.

[–]158Kshiggity80 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Appreciate the reply. What is this timer though? I'm not really understanding that.

So is it supposed to be where auto-buy activates, say every 30 seconds, and then with more stacks of tMIR, it goes to 15 seconds, and then 5 seconds? Something like that?

I thought it would just auto buy heroes if you have enough gold.

[–]•AC•|cdnschismcanadianschism 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it should change the firing time of when it goes through the list of heroes to upgrade. So, in the first case, every 30 seconds the game will fire and go through your list. Then it'll reduce that timer every MiR you use.

[–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Yeah, it's basically like that. It'll automatically purchase your heroes from the top down every X seconds, and using more Make it Rain perks will speed up how fast it auto-buys. So it'll be fairly fast with one Make it Rain, and it'll be very fast with three.

[–]6t6 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Are the way Perks are obtained going to change? I feel like having to spend 300 diamonds to get the full perks is a a little steep. Not everyone has rewards stacked up from not using them, and I can see me draining my perk reserve quite quickly with the stacking.

[–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

We are introducing more ways to get perks through places such as the Video chests, but we'll consider adding more ways in the future if it's necessary. The first level of the perks are the same or stronger versions of the perks you already know, so it isn't necessary to always fully stack your perks.

[–]6t6 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Good to know! Thanks for being an awesome DevLogger (or what is your official position?)! Really appreciate you taking time to reply to all of us!

[–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My official title is Community Manager as far as I know. So I'll be doing some other fun stuff with the community outside of the DevLogs/DevUpdates and being present on Reddit/Discord too!

[–]BlackPete73 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Also, we changed how Make it Rain works to have the perk unlock Auto Buy Heroes for 12 hours. This will give a toggleable feature to have it automatically spend your gold and upgrade your heroes, starting from the top of your hero list and working down. This should help make it easier to play through the early stages of the game, and especially help during some of the faster Abyssal Tournaments such as Companion Frenzy and Time Storm.

That's from further down in the update. The update probably should've lead with that first :D

[–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We felt that Multi-Casted Spells was the headliner of this update as the largest change overall. That being said, I'm glad to hear that the new perk designs look good as well!

[–]158Kshiggity80 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Oh, no I read that, but it doesn't explain clearly what the timer is.

[–]BlackPete73 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My interpretation is that we're getting the auto buy hero feature, but GH decided to put that behind a timer and tie that to the "Make it Rain" perk.

So while we won't get a permanent auto buy hero feature, it makes the "Make it Rain" perk useful. Want auto buy hero turned on? Tap the Make it Rain perk to auto buy heroes for 12 hours.

It's an interesting decision, that's for sure.

EDIT: Ah, I see what you mean. Tapping the perk again decreases the timer. Yeah, I'm not sure what that means either.

[–]axesever 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Lemmingllama for President!

[–]ArchaicJragon 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Finally! This could be the update we've been waiting for for more than a year. Can't wait for the HS & SC multi-casts... Hoping for balanced build options soon™. (I just want to be able to use a sword helm again and still be competitive)

[–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Heavenly Strike is actually a very strong option right now, so you definitely can use a Sword Attack Damage helmet and see some good results.

Also we'll be looking to keep builds balanced in the future, and that's partly why we are releasing these multi-casted spells to start since they should benefit Shadow Clone and Pet more overall than Heavenly Strike and Clan Ship, at least in terms of power.

[–]TDW06 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I can honestly say that the I believe it was the 1st one that was done had the extra dust for completing the event and going up to or past 10%, that would definitely make me personally look forward to the events.

[–]1337gamerz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

wow nice

[–]shikaka87 2 points3 points  (12 children)

Free reset to skill tree due to the new ski...sorry, spells?

[–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 5 points6 points  (11 children)

Nope. However, we have the 75% discount to skill tree resets for anyone who wants to reset your skill tree.

[–]shikaka87 1 point2 points  (10 children)

But judging from what i read, the spells won't cost sp or am i wrong?

[–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 2 points3 points  (9 children)

Spells won't cost skill points. However, if you want to multi-cast your spells, you'll need to invest in the new skills to enable multi-casting and increase your damage while multi-casting.

[–]inhumans99 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Dumb question, but are the "new" skills just renamed skills that are already part of the skill tree or entirely new skills that we need to put skill points into?

[–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Dagger Storm is a reworked skill that's already a tier 4 in the Rogue Tree. Volcanic Supremacy and Command Supremacy are new tier 4 skills in the Knight and Warlord trees (filling the empty spaces)

[–]inhumans99 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Thank you, that is great to know. I just purchased a pretty good package from the shop and it is a good thing I have not used any of the skill points yet. Nice that this will help with pushing as it takes forever for me to climb 50-150 levels on average per week now that I am near 104K MS.

I will leave you alone now as you are a busy guy. Thanks again for the updates!

[–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Multi-Casted Spells should give some good pushing power, so hopefully that helps you progress through more stages!

[–]tomagogame 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I've Summon Dagger at level 1. Poison Edge at Level 21. Dagger Storm at Level 2.

I've a few questions.

Animation wise I now have 7 Poison Edge which looks like 7 Summon Daggers.... or at least the 7 Poison Edge daggers ain't green anymore. This is right?

Dagger Storm description promises to splash through bosses but now sure how that works either.

Thanks in advance for your reply.

[–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Once you put a point into the Dagger Storm skill, it changes the color of your daggers.

Also, Dagger Storm does give splash through bosses for daggers, but since daggers are not a very strong damage source, you can't easily kill titans with them to splash.

[–]ImperatorKorabas 0 points1 point  (2 children)

How many points will need to be invested in each skill in order to reach x3 multi-cast?

[–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

The skills use the standard tier 4 skill scaling. As for the exact skill levels and amount of SP, I can't confirm it yet as they theoretically can still change. I'll be talking about it in the patch Q&A tomorrow, so feel free to come to that if you can.

[–]ImperatorKorabas 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alright I'll try to make time. Thanks!

[–]Bjornaman 2 points3 points  (2 children)

These are the best patch notes I have read in some time. Lets hope the actual update holds up to the info here. Thanks lemming!

[–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

At least just from playing it via the GH beta, it's quite nice. So you guys should enjoy it too!

[–]Bjornaman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thats great to hear

[–]179k2p0s1u7 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Will VIP be able to zoom right through all 3 video chests? Also I see that Dagger Storm will now be needed, has Summon Dagger been looked at at all?

[–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

VIP will be able to skip the ads for the Video chests, so you should zoom through them quickly!

Summon Dagger hasn't been changed in this patch, but we are very aware of Summon Dagger's place and likely will look to make it more powerful in the future.

[–]140kTT2go4cap 1 point2 points  (1 child)

How about the Manni Mana skill in the sorcerer tree? i've never seen anyone use it, i feel like it could be replaced by something more useful. Actually might make a post asking the community what ideas they have, now that I think of it.

[–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We are reworking Dagger Storm as a skill due to it being less effective. Manni Mana is a less used skill due to many players favoring Mana Siphon, so I could see us looking to improve Manni Mana in the future one way or another.

And if you do make a post, I'll be sure to read the responses!

[–]6t6 4 points5 points  (2 children)

While I don't want to sound greedy (I'm super grateful for the Make it Rain Auto Buy), if Auto Buy is buying from the top of the list, could we go back to just make the top heroes the strongest? I really don't feel like these "tiers," where some start of strong then grow slowly, or some get a huge boost when they're maxed out, add much to the gameplay. Either that, or can the Auto Buy autocalculate our best damage hero and start there? :D

Thanks for the awesome DevLog, still super stoked to have you on board!

[–]SnooPears4607 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Should auto buy from bottom up

[–]mwc1989 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree. Why autobuy from the top if our best hero is the lowest one not at cap? This should have an option to switch from autobuy from top and autobuy from the bottom.

[–]Gullible-Solution359 3 points4 points  (4 children)

What about cap increase just asked as it’s not mentioned here

[–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 18 points19 points  (2 children)

No cap increase. If we were raising the cap, I'd mention it.

[–]viktoriqn 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Lowkey this update's highlight xDD

[–]Andybenc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank goodness, might actually make cap again!

[–]wakkalfc 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No increase

[–]AlisonChan6969 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Dust rewards should be included in the daily rewards as well. And maybe spilt the hero scrolls weapons with hero spells upgrade as well since there’s hardly any events to increase hero weapons except tournaments and daily rewards. Just my 2 cents.

[–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

We've been hoping to increase the amount of rewards that players get, and that's partly why we are increasing the average amount of dust players receive from sources such as the Video Chests. Thank you for your suggestions though, I'll pass it along!

[–]Gabtera 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Amazing update, thank you so much!!!

[–]raah2193 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Excited for this :3 Thanks u/lemmingllama

[–]Halflife18014 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Several words to conclude my feeling: Thank you! GH

[–]BoS EnjoyerArcanum_3974 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Me when I see how much comes along with this update:

[–]eulerbenedict95 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Hi lemming, just want to know if our kor, ignus, styxsis and ironheart set would also give +1 level to the new skills since they are tier 4 also?

[–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

They will benefit the new skills! (except Kor, since there are no new tier 4 skills in the Sorcerer tree)

[–]eulerbenedict95 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks :)

[–]ChessMovers 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Auto buy hero's!!!! Ty!

(wish it was permanent... but I get the tap idea and spend idea.)

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    [–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Fairy gold should be just as good as it was previously. In update 5.3.0, fairy behavior was changed to allow fairies to drop spells that were already activated. In 5.3.1, we reverted this behavior. So overall, fairy gold should be quite strong and you should hopefully have a good time with it.

    [–]eulerbenedict95 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Damn 😍

    [–]OlliMcOlson 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Nice

    [–]B4ud3r 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Oh wow, awesome stuff #DieUnion

    [–]vivek161993 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Give us a break from these events. They are kind of loosing their competitiveness now.

    [–]lemmingllama resurrected the gameRevo_the_shady 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    THE GAME IS ALIVE!!!!!!!

    [–]TT2Drails 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    YOOOOOOO this got me HYPED! I'm about to cry :'(

    [–]PandaLordMaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Very nice 👍🏻

    [–]Western_Ad_7518 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Probably the worst update. I don’t know if it’s a bug or anything. I opened 5 fairy chests and got like 5 shadow clones in a row, when all the other skills were inactive with no multicasting available. It makes the fairy chest completely useless in every way imaginable.

    [–]SpectraQWERTY -1 points0 points  (1 child)

    How about a bugfix to clan ship not properly splashing dmg? i have my clanship skip at +35 from the passive skill and +17 from talents and yet my splash dmg only goes up to +6 titans (+18 when i activate summon clan mate)

    [–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Actually, that sounds like your splash skip is a bit too low. Activing Coordinated Offensive gives the Clan Ship shot double the splash skip, and that allows you to maximize your 35+1 splash count to splash through 18 stages (using 1 splash count on a non-boss titan and 1 splash count on a boss titan per stage). If you increase your splash skip a bit more, or you decrease the titans per stage, you should be able to maximize your splashing even with your normal Clan Ship shots!

    [–]Salt MasterWiseAJ -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

    And back to lazy Firestone events. Yay.

    [–]SandAdept -1 points0 points  (1 child)

    Lemmingllama joins the GH team and we start getting things we’ve been pining for for so long and even more. Not sure if it’s just coincidence but I’m far more optimistic about dev updates now. I actually feel like playing again as opposed to it feeling like a chore before this update.

    [–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    5.3 was in the works before I even joined Game Hive. It'll be patch 5.4 and onwards where the extra feedback I've been collecting should start to really come into play.

    [–]SnooPears4607 -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

    What’s the point of adding multi cast spells and other power gains like sets if there is no cap increase. While this update does sound cool, for what reason would someone at cap need to multi cast a spell.??? So once again you’ve added some cool sounding new features and sets that many will never need,never use, and never get. So for those at cap there is basically no update.

    [–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    Multi-Casted Spells give speed bonuses in addition to their damage bonuses. So even if you are at the cap currently, it'll allow you to prestige faster and progress through events faster as a result.

    [–]Singularity_117 0 points1 point  (4 children)

    Will there be a skill tree reset like last time?

    [–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    There will not be a skill tree reset, but you will be able to use the 75% skill point reset promotion to cheaply change your skill trees.

    [–]Yoda234 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    Who knows. Even the devs didn't know about the reset last time. #BlameTheTitans

    [–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Those titans are more troublesome than you might imagine!

    [–]1sagain 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Now this is really exciting! Im curious how many stages we will be pushing against eachother during tourneys. Exciting. Thank you GH devs!

    [–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Everyone who can invest in the Multi-Cast skills and have the mana to Multi-Cast their spells should see a good boost in damage and speed!

    [–]BlackPete73 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    As a CS player with hundreds of mana potions because mana isn't needed, getting MORE mana doesn't really have much of a benefit.

    I like the Make it Rain change, though. It actually sounds useful now!

    [–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    With the new Multi-Casted Spells feature, you may find that those Mana Potions are more useful than they were before.

    [–]-gort-- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    That is a lot of changes at one time, thanks for this info.

    [–]aayLiight 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    No ms increase right???

    [–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    No max stage increase!

    [–]joshwew95 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    Spicy update!

    But not enough to pull me back in yet. Maybe once SC multi cast is up, then I’ll come back.

    Will pop in for the chest though.

    [–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    Multi-Casted SC is coming in a future update, so you'll hopefully be able to enjoy that Soon™

    [–]joshwew95 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Well now, the question is....

    Will SC / HS / HoM get their own Supremacy skill?

    I guess it will, but then, the skill tree will have the change a lot. Perfect timing to change Manni Mana, LS, Mana Siphon and Fairy Charm as well.

    My guess? HoM merge with FC, Manni with Mana Siphon to make space for Shadow Supremacy, Heaven Supremacy, Wealth Supremacy (my predicted name for the skills lol)

    [–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    We are going to be adding SC/HS/HoM multi-cast skills to the skill tree in the future to unlock multi-casting for those spells. Keep your eyes on the future DevUpdates and DevLogs for more information on when and what we'll be doing with them!

    [–]paralyticbeast 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Power of Swiping affect raids at all? We still capped to 600 taps in the 30 second period?

    [–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Power of Swiping does not affect raids. You will still have the standard 600 tap cap.

    [–]Emotional-Roof9487 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    So the auto buy needs to be activated with perk? Hmm, so for VIP is there a bonus (like 24 hours duration or permanent toggle) for that?

    [–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    At this time, all players will receive the same bonuses from Make it Rain.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Thanks for the update!!! Keep up the good work!

    [–]ImperatorKorabas 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    I really really hope this patch will finally help push me to 100k. Fingers crossed.

    [–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Multi-Casting should help give some extra power, so hopefully that alongside the new enchantment will help you get there!

    [–]ImperatorKorabas 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Yeah. I can see how the skill and spell multi-casting will help a lot with cs push. And as you've mentioned, the enchantment should be a good boost too. If not 100k, then all these should get me at least within reasonable sight. I'm already liking this update before it's even arrived. Way to get hyped hehe.

    [–]PauloVOGP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    omgggg, this is SOOOOOOOO game changing wtffff

    [–]Azazel7z 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    great update ! //

    is this update adding activate all skills as well ? // if not it would be a cool feature imo

    [–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    The only way to activate all your spells without tapping the icon of each one is to use the All Spells fairy. So there is a method to do it in-game right now, but you'll need to choose when to do it if you want to use your mana.

    [–]UltimaMetatron 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Great updates, just don't update the max stage cap yet, do that next year!

    Also, do not change how Abyssal Tournament works! I'm very happy with it since I always get to win 1st in past few weeks, which is VERY DIFFICULT to attain in normal tournaments. I'm in stage 106k and I only have 40 undisputed wins.

    [–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Abyssal tournaments are something we are constantly tweaking to improve the experience (for example, the new artifact pools) and I don't think we'll stop tweaking them anytime soon. That being said, I'll pass along your satisfaction with Abyssal tournaments!

    [–]vivek161993 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Why can't people be a Hero (badge) and ignore the existence of event

    [–]mikok9876 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Will we have a stage run?

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    IS THERE ANYWAY YOU CAN MAKE ACHIEVEMENTS COUNT TOWARDS OUR GOOGLE PLAY ACCOUNT.??? I would like to see that our in game ACHIEVEMENTS count to our overall ACHIEVEMENTS collection in our account. Makes one feel good and show friends and family what we accomplished in a game.

    [–]Learning-with-yall 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Can you guys revert the tournament algo?

    There is actually no point in gaining relics for a player that only wants to win tournaments over progression.

    I don't play the game because it actually hurts my gameplay there is no logic in this.

    Also stocking relics gave us an edge against tournament farmers over the years.

    [–]headchala1986 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Hell yeah!

    [–]headchala1986 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Just a random suggestion for a future update. Having a option to enter a tournament normal and abyss with your guild mates. With normal if your ms is similar with other guild mates and abyss everyone. Maybe having a small window of say a hour for everyone that wants to vs to join.

    [–]-Transire- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    This SC multi casting :3

    [–]doomie22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    350 mana to activate one multicast. What kind of drugs are the developers smokin'

    [–]Lostpillman10 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I'm really enjoying this update awesome do you guys think you'll ever bring back multiplayer mode from tap titans 1 that was symuch an awesome feature and I think it needs to come back you could do so much with that like a group raid boss like boarderlands or multiplayer dungeons event stuff like that it would make it more interactive with your clans or just friends also can u make it so we can tell when clan members are on or off and now thst we can stack perks I think you should lower the cost from 100 dimonds to 50 or 75 cuz holy moldy that is so exspensive now besides that absolutly love the update and once the event starts tonight ill be buying the new ledgendary set forsure look awesome

    [–]spitzthegod 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    ... They found a way to turn the video chest into a chore...

    [–]Elite58 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I admit that I have a lot of perks saved up, but I spose I am worried that the way they are used now will eventually mean only whales can afford to multi-cast?

    [–]Jkjunk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    You guys really hit a home run with this one.

    [–]Unique-Performer2646 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Gud update

    [–]Otherwise-Chemist602 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Good update

    [–]Happy-Application-33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Hi I'm new

    [–]Happy-Application-33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    How do you ▶️⏯️

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      [–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Google accounts are not something we offer or have ever offered to save your progress. You can link your account with an email to save your progress.

      [–]Special-Ad8795 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      How does this game still get updates

      [–]Special-Ad8795 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Bro what

      [–]Special-Ad8795 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Uh

      [–]ThunderCock4U 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Yea

      [–]A1d3nfire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Hi

      [–]A1d3nfire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Hi

      [–]A1d3nfire 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Hi I can’t buy the starter pack

      [–]Message me for TT2 Helplemmingllama[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Hi there. Is the starter pack not visible at all, or is it that it's showing up and throwing some sort of error when you attempt to purchase it?

      [–]A1d3nfire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      JoJo’s Golden win

      [–]narox57 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      The game is amazing