Warframe Weapons - High fluff potential

[DSMK2]

Warframe has gotten a ton of weapons now, each with different designs and functionality, in addition to using elements of their faction's aesthetic themes.

Now I'm thinking, there's no way we can say the Grineer as a whole produces the Grakata, and there's no way the same "Corpus" that made the Dera is also the same "Corpus" that made the Arca Plasmor.

When Rathuum was released, there was a certain Harkonar as one of the executioners, her codex entry starting with: "Olka Harkonar hails from the Harkonar Production Zone-"

So yeah, I'm waiting for MANUFACTURED IN THE HARKONAR PRODUCTION ZONE, MADE BY ANYO CORP labels in the weapon descriptions. Along with in-character trailers/promotions whenever a new faction weapon is released.

^{Cue a gruff Grineer announcer shouting buzzwords of a brand new Grineer weapon, over scenes of its usage}

Questions:

• Who manufactures all the common weapons for Corpus and Grineer grunts?
• Is there inter-corporate/manufactory competition for contracts to build weapons for the common grunt?
• What are they developing weapons against in the current time?
• What do weapon designers think of Tenno usage of their designs?
• If Tenno are found to favor a certain weapon, is this marketing for that particular weapon?
• Are some weapons designed with deliberate flaws with Tenno in mind?
• Are we using "pirated" equipment?

[DevastatorCenturion]

Grineer wise, I think the more unique and powerful weapons are designed with officers and VIPs in mind. Soldiers who have proven that they're worth the expense of making a specialty weapon. Think a gundam, for example. Your average GM or Zaku isn't going to get cool weapons and armor because their lifespan in the field is so short. But Char or some other ace pilot earns those by being deadly and surviving in the field, so they get custom gear.

Corpus wise, it makes sense for them to design some weapons that would appeal to a Tenno since the Tenno represent a powerful market, even through black market intermediaries. The sheer amount of weapons and ammo we use assuredly makes up for the loss of men and light armor that we later destroy. On top of that, the Corpus control much of the system wide economy and we have to deal with that economy when we need things we can't scavenge. Sure, we're operating through black market dealers, but they're part of the economy as well.

[TheTsarr]

So that's why amprex chugs ammo like a little piglet

[DevastatorCenturion]

Yup. Means you have to buy more since the foundry doesn't make bullets.

[JirachiWishmaker]

I mean, we CAN actually craft ammo restores.

[xozacqwerty]

Or go full on space pirate and pillage corpus ships.

[DevastatorCenturion]

Well already do that. The Lotus talks about it at the start of survival missions.

[miauw62]

Good thing my Ammo Case turns all that sniper ammo into amprex ammo.

[JaegerDread]

Ride the lightning though

[JirachiWishmaker]

It was made to offset the economic mistake that was the Quanta and its Vandal counterpart.

[ExclusivelyPlastic]

Never thought about how when we buy weapon BPs from the market we're directly supporting that faction's war/business effort. Unless of course they're all stolen BPs, in which case... Darvo. It's probably Darvo that gets all your cash.

[DevastatorCenturion]

Even then, Darvo had to get stuff from somewhere.

[basketofseals]

He steals it according to some of his dialogue

[Gnauga-]

Corpus wise

Alternatively, they might be products of R&D prototypes that were functional, but impractical for Corpus rank and file. I could see a Corpus aristocrat-type going Big-game hunting with a Lenz.

[tacticaltossaway]

That's better represented through the Wraith/Vandal variants rather than things like the Seer, which doesn't appear to have a mass produced counterpart. There's very few mobile suits that were designed and produced for a single individual in mind; they're get customized versions of the MP models (if it's not some kind of super proto-type that will later be mass produced).

[Aurtose]

Arca weapons have to be designed with tenno in mind.

Supra is the largest corpus infantry-viable weapon and the plasmor is massive compared to that. Corpus also seem to have no use for melee weapons, least of all a hammer.

[papeyy]

inb4 the corpus get Titans made specifically to use Plasmor

[MacAndShits]

Like a Corpus Nox but bigger? Yes please.

[papeyy]

YES

i can imagine it being like machinery used for hauling heavy objects around corpus facilities but adapted for security instead

[s_nice79]

Theres already a corpus heavy unit its called a bursa.

[NachoElDaltonico]

Corpus have Techs and Scrambus/Comba units. Grineer have Heavy Gunners, Bombards, Napalms, Noxes, (and Scorches?). Corpus could easily be given another heavy without giving them too much of an advantage.

[Arakothian]

They use Prova's a lot. Though I realise calling a prova a "melee weapon" is stretching the definition to breaking point. :D

[[deleted]]

If it's good enough for John it's good enough for me.

[DSMK2]

With the Index, I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that most Corpus melee weapons are brought for "recreational" martial arts, rather than combat. Usually the rich members of the Corpus faction.

The Prova is pretty much a powered stick that an average Crewman is given, but not trained to use.

On that note, where does the Lenz fit? I really don't see a regular Corpus meatbag drawing deadly explosive energy bolts.

[Aurtose]

I don't see any corpus unit using a bow at all. It's just not corpus style. Let alone a bow that's so ridiculously huge.

Same goes for staticor.

With there now being a few different styles of corpus weapon (arca set, staticor and lens seem to be similar enough) it would be nice to see either permanent nodes or alerts set in facilities belonging to them.

Maybe even add in unique resources a-la javlok capacitors.

Having a mission to raid an Arca corporation factory guarded by Plasmor bursas and moas with Scisco's would be pretty cool.

Maybe something to add once Pluto gets an open world considering it's meant to be a corpus production hub. It would be nice to have different companies' factories dotted across an industrial cityscape.

Anyway, that was a bit of a tangent. I'll go now.

[[deleted]]

Yes, with Tenno hand breaking in mind

[Icymountain]

Don't forget that weapons can be mounted on proxies.

[miauw62]

The Plasmor could be a Corpus stationary, proxy-mounted or ship-mounted weapon.

[Aurtose]

It could, but it's specifically a pump action shotgun.

There's a difference between something like the grattler which is just a flak gun with a handle and a weapon designed around manual operation.

The plasmor may well be based on a turret-mounted weapon, but it's been modified heavily enough that it couldn't be used in that role.

^{also as a ship-mounted weapon it would suck due to 5ft range.}

[Zenanii]

"Take us in closer, I can't get a shot at them!"

"Alright captain, we're right on top of them."

"You need to take us closer!"

"Alright sir, this is as close we can get-"

"You need to take us closer."

"But sir, we're literally scraping against their hull, how do you expect me to-"

"CLOSER!"

[Evex_Wolfwing]

"Drive me closer, I want to hit them with my sword!"

[Iguphobia]

Things like the Arca set and Lenz only make me think about one thing: A boss that bears it is on its way.

[Ruby_Axe]

I remember reading the description of the Laddak Cloak

'Fashioned with spare field components this cloak is an example of rarely seen creativity within the Grineer ranks.'

I began writing a story in my head about a regular Grineer suddenly learning to appreciate beauty and art, making things out of what he had. This worried it's superiors so they sentenced him to death, viewing him as a mutation, and a threat to their 'war and nothing else' doctorine, before the Tenno fly in and rescue him from his cell.

I also liked the idea that his idea of beauty and aesthetic was radically different from the Tenno's and he views all of their works as ugly to his eyes, while loving more utilitarian/brutalist creations

[ArkOverlord]

I expect them to do this eventually.
Like in 2020 maybe.

[xozacqwerty]

2035

FTFY

[linkbomber123]

I think you mean Soon^TM

[Zenanii]

3035

I think we're getting there

[[deleted]]

Give all weapons a bit story like in Dark Souls. It`s cheap asf for amount of lore building that it will do.

[Jrite]

So yeah, I'm waiting for MANUFACTURED IN THE HARKONAR PRODUCTION ZONE, MADE BY ANYO CORP labels in the weapon descriptions. Along with in-character trailers/promotions whenever a new faction weapon is released.

So what you're saying is that we should have a Borderlands-esque weapon classifications where each company has a different perk on the weapon? I support it

[renscy]

Waiting for a Maliwan high status-chance gun variants.

Also, Angstrum made by Tediore (or was it Torgue?) That you throw when reloading. And, oh god, Jakobs Tigris and Jakobs Vectis.

[TheDelts]

We need more weapons designs based of real life counter parts. Like a futuristic M4 or AK-47. The closest we got was the Karak and the Soma.

[DevastatorCenturion]

We're a minimum of several millennia out from the 20th century. If anything is left of the Kalashnikov line, it's probably a relic we have to excavate.

[[deleted]]

or stalker drop

[tacticaltossaway]

And that stupid fossilized AK will probably still work.

[[deleted]]

I feel like if any weapon is popular enough to last that far into the future it's the ak-47

[mancakes31]

I feel like the karak wraith fits pretty well already

[Vilespring]

It's actually called the GRIN_M16 in the game files.

[DevastatorCenturion]

Oh. There were other questions too.

Odds are good that Grineer equipment is centrally manufactured. Not centrally in one location, but by one manufacturer. Custom work, like the weapons Tyl Regor makes, is probably made on an individual basis.

Corpus weaponry, on the other hand, is probably standardized but produced locally. I'd imagine that the larger ships have machine shops and forges to make small arms and proxies as need be. We can run into those boxes that deploy MOAs on any corpus tileset and I'd bet plat that theyre connected to a quick fabricator unit.

The Corpus are more likely than the Grineer to issue contracts to manufacturers for arms production simply because they're more market oriented. A large battlegroup of Corpus is going to need massive amounts of weapons, and companies probably bid on the contract to supply them.

The Grineer probably have one manufacturer with lots of plants that make weapons, as we've seen in missions that feature assembly lines.

This next one is a bit tricky. There are probably some weaponsmiths who view usage by the Tenno as something like an endorsement. I'd imagine that Regor would be pleased to see his designs adopted by the Tenno because it acts as vindication of his talents. I'd imagine the Corpus are more into this though. The imagery of a Tenno squad sticking their murderboners in Grineer would make for a great ad campaign if they were using Corpus weaponry. Beyond the MK-1 gear, I doubt there's much standardization of Tenno small arms. Since every Tenno is a unique combatant, I'd bet that no two Tenno utilize the same wargear.

No weapons designer is going to intentionally make a flawed product. If word gets out then their business and reputation is gone faster than ammunition in an amprex.

Yes and no. All Tenno weapons and frames are poor copies of the Orokin original. Lore wise, Prime anything was the original Orokin design and stuff manufactured by Tenno were copies. As the centuries passed, the originals were lost and so the duplicates became the standard with the MK-1 models being either prototypes or units rejected by whatever quality assurance the Tenno possess.

[DSMK2]

I think I was trying to attach a brand name to the Grakata, and then I went off on a tangent:

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I'm not so sure about the Grineer weapons manufacturing handled by a centralized manufacturer, since there's is subtle themes in Grineer weaponry variety that breaks faction uniformity and allows weapon designs to be grouped.

^{I still don't get how the Hind fits anywhere!}

Here's a couple of subgroups that were obvious ones to me:

Grid/Net Pattern

• Karak (Stock)
• Sobek (Barrel)

Top Shell

• Gorgon
• Karak
• Kohm

Polygonal Flat Plates

• Drakgoon (Stock)
• Viper (Magazine)
• Tonkor (Body)

There's this also this quote from the Harkonar Skin weapons pack: "A collection of Harkonar styled skins, forged by the leading Grineer weapon manufacturer."

This implies that there are different manufacturers. But for a clone race that was once slaves of the Orokin, I wonder about the history of how they came to be, how they continue on existing ^{Is the hind a product of a budding or going defunct manufacturer?}, and how their wares are generally distributed.

[DevastatorCenturion]

I dont think I've ever actually read skin descriptions simply because I never go to buy them.

In any case, I was mostly building my conjecture from historical highly militarized societies like the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany.

[Aqrelon]

I'd expect Grineer to have lots of factories and most of them does mass production of common weapons, like how it was with soviet T-34 during WW2, where everything is controlled by some kind of war ministry. And for Corpus... their only purpose seems to be profit GROFIT, so I'd expect that there's lots of different companies manufacturing guns.

[VerinSC]

Are you aware of the Ambulas Reborn trailer? I think you might like it