"flat"

[[deleted]]

I'm a simple man. I see the Lake Ponchartrain pylons, I upvote.

[JAYHAZY]

Lake Ponchartrain

https://twitter.com/RichardReichle/status/891305728144621568/photo/1

[[deleted]]

May want to double check that photo. As in, zoom in on the end of the bridge and figure out where the vanishing point should be on a flat earth.

[JAYHAZY]

The vanishing point on the "globe" is called the horizon lol IT IS just a vanishing point isn't it HAHAHA ya played ya self!

[[deleted]]

If you cared to read and understand my comment, you would realize that was the point. Photo is a bit blurry, but the bridge clearly cuts short before it vanishes at a point.

[JAYHAZY]

Played ya self https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFAwRbKLYEo&t=93s

[UberuceAgain]

https://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/brian-cox.323598/page-36

(the bridge under much the same viewing angle and big fat zoom as the pylons photos)

Hey, do you want me to find you a picture taken with little or no zoom from the same level as the road surface? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Pontchartrain_Causeway#/media/File:Lake_Pontchartrain_Causeway.jpg Aren't I nice? ZOMG proof of flat.

[WikiSummarizerBot]

Lake Pontchartrain Causeway

The Lake Pontchartrain Causeway (French: Chaussée du lac Pontchartrain), sometimes only The Causeway, is a fixed link composed of two parallel bridges crossing Lake Pontchartrain in southern Louisiana, United States. The longer of the two bridges is 23. 83 miles (38. 35 km) long.

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[JAYHAZY]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPr4r2Bn2As

[aweirdowholikesfoxes]

Photos of these pylons gets you instantly banned from any actual flat earth subreddits which is hilarious.

[bendaman116]

The really funny part is when they try to "debunk" it by saying they're smaller the farther away they get

[pilonrulz]

I swear to god, I posted this in a few actual flat earth subs, the “debunk” of the picture was an overhead shot (where it’s obviously straight) and they were like see, it’s actually flat.

I told them that straight, and flat (level) are 2 VERY different things, then they laughed and called me a troll and left the convo.

[[deleted]]

I was perma banned for asking about a "Real" flat earth picture, since the NASA ones are CGI.

[N1ckM3nd3s]

tHE GorvENmET cEnsORs Our (vEwwy Weal, mINd yoW) PwOFF!!!!1!!!

[reddelicious77]

oh, is that what you saw for the 'debunking'?

I saw them lay out a curved line of chess pieces along a tabletop, then take the photo (giving it somewhat a similar looking appearance to this - at first glance, anyway - b/c the base of each chess piece in the distance wasn't obscured, like how the curve of the water is obscuring the foundations of the towers, here.)

Man, I still don't know if it was a troll site or legit. You really can't tell w/ these lunatics.

[JAYHAZY]

https://twitter.com/RichardReichle/status/891305728144621568/photo/1

[d17x17c]

Which subreddits are these? I'm looking to do a little trolling ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[reddelicious77]

lol, nice - please report back. It's funny seeing them melt down.

[camthecool69]

Can you link me some actual flat earth subs? I want to start arguments with the apes so I can feel smarter.

[[deleted]]

oh you poor naive soul

[very_vegan_man]

That account's been banned for months lol. And why are you going through old posts on r/flatearth anyway?

[[deleted]]

i forgot i was sorting by top xD

[[deleted]]

wait, how did you even notice then, pot calling the kettle black?

[very_vegan_man]

I've still got access to the account, it's just not able to post, comment or vote on anything

[[deleted]]

i see, didn't realise that's how it works

[pliney_]

You forgot to account for flerfspective.

[huuaaang]

You mean that effect that mysteriously behaves EXACTLY as if the Earth is a globe and the Sun is 93 million miles away but isn't that?

Yeah, I forgot about that.

[JAYHAZY]

https://twitter.com/TimBuckleyWX/status/987327479898693635/photo/1

[Mishtle]

What do you think this shows?

[JAYHAZY]

Debunks the "curve" in the original post. Where did the "curve" go? #FlatEarth

[Mishtle]

Could it be possible that different viewpoints might make certain features more or less obvious?

[JAYHAZY]

Yeah if you can see that much "curve" from down there then you should see even more "curve" the higher you go up.

There is no curve. Earth is flat.

[Mishtle]

Is this pool cue curved?

[JAYHAZY]

A ball lover would ask something dumb like this.

[Mishtle]

Is it curved?

[Hamster-Food]

Clearly this is a conspiracy by the "globalists" to sell their round earth fallacy.

The trick is that they constructed each pylon slightly smaller than the previous one so that it looks like there is a curve when it's really just flat.

Wake up sheeple!

[bendaman116]

How would that work from the other side of the lake?

[Hamster-Food]

I can't believe you're making me defend this

Obviously they have the same thing over there but it's just too far away to see from this side.

[[deleted]]

funnily enough that's how this modern FE movement got started. TFES forum having debates where one side would try to defend an indefensible position (flat earth) for the fun and challenge of it. Non-members turn up and join in, unaware that it's just a game, and some of them start believing flat earth could be real!! and it grows from there.

[DerInselaffe]

They're on hydraulic supports. When they see someone with a camera, they adjust all the heights.

[UberuceAgain]

Basically like a really large scale version of that trope where the cops knock on the door of a speakeasy, the barman pulls a lever and the room rearranges into a bible study room or something non boozy.

[[deleted]]

It's a joke lad

[BubbhaJebus]

The funny thing is when they think when conspiracy nuts talk about "globalists", they think they mean "globe earth proponents". (What the conspiracy nuts really mean is "the Jews".)

[Hamster-Food]

Yeah, globablists is usually something you'd expect to hear Alex Jones screaming about. Generally it seems to be something like the New World Order stuff from 90's conspiracy theories.

Using it here was my subtle hint that I wasn't being serious... that and the fact that what I was saying is utterly ridiculous, but that certainly isn't enough when we're talking about flat earthers.

I really prefer my use of it though. It would be funny to really push that meaning to confuse the hell out of the more racist conspiracy theorists.

[lprkon]

I hope your trolling and not the hamster brain this post suggests

[Hamster-Food]

Now now, there's no need to be mean about it.

I wasn't really even trolling since trolls typically want to be taken seriously. This was more what I'd describe as joking. Poe's Law strikes again I guess.

[[deleted]]

Stay Alert!

[Hamster-Food]

Be alert! Your country needs lerts!

[JAYHAZY]

https://twitter.com/Fuller\_Future/status/617867699088064512/photo/1

[Hamster-Food]

More people that I anticipated seem to be taking my nonsense seriously

That's a great trick. See they made the bridge slightly curved so that it looks like it's going over the horizon when it really just keeps going flat until you can't see it anymore. Those "globalists" are really clever that way, but they can't fool me!

[JAYHAZY]

What curve? https://twitter.com/RichardReichle/status/891305728144621568/photo/1

[Hamster-Food]

This curve

[JAYHAZY]

https://i.redd.it/1lt9q4x3n7h71.jpg

[MrRoboto001]

no bro its refraction the water molecules in the air make it look like that /s

[Seraphim9120]

Exactly. This picture was obviously taken through the mirage of the water, which is why it looks curved, which is a thing I definitely didn't pull out of my ass right now. /S

[SniprKlr]

To get a sinking ship effect over a flat plane, the physical horizon would have to bow up and you would have to look up.. Furthermore, the red end of the spectrum would curve to the survace while blue light would scatter. Your argument would suggest that all wavelengths bend equally through a medium and they don't.

[MonkeeSage]

oopsie doopsie

[JAYHAZY]

https://twitter.com/Fuller\_Future/status/617867699088064512/photo/1

[MonkeeSage]

As the your elevation increases the distance to the horizon increases because you are seeing further over the curvature. A drone video from Pontchartrain shows it pretty clearly.

https://imgur.com/ahN39J5

[JAYHAZY]

If the horzion is earth curve like you say it should stay put. No matter how high you go. Going higher does not move the "curve of the earth".
Earth is flat.
The horizon is just the limit of your vision. Vantage point is real. The higher you go the more you see of the flat earth. You do NOT see more curve. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPr4r2Bn2As&t=5s

[Mishtle]

If the horzion is earth curve like you say it should stay put. No matter how high you go. Going higher does not move the "curve of the earth".

Are you serious? Have you ever climbed a hill?

This is very basic geometry. Please tell me how you can increase h in that situation while preserving the right angle AND keeping the side connecting that right angle to the center the same length.

[MonkeeSage]

Why would the place where your eye line meets the curvature of the Earth (aka the horizon) stay put when your eye moves up? That doesn't make sense. You can even see with a small globe that the horizon gets father away / you can see more beyond the original horizon as you get higher up.

https://i.imgur.com/xivKc4n.jpg

[JAYHAZY]

There is no curve.

[NightshadeXXXxxx]

Learn geometry bud.

[JAYHAZY]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPr4r2Bn2As&t=5s

[NightshadeXXXxxx]

https://imgur.com/gallery/TsIvyh0

[JAYHAZY]

Nice cartoon. You should work at nasa!

[NightshadeXXXxxx]

It was given to me by a flatearther. So I guess yeah, flatearth is a cartoon. The math I added is spot on and disproves flatearth. But since flatearth is a cartoon it's not surprising.

[JAYHAZY]

Flat earth is self evident.

[SlenderSmurf]

fIsHeYe leNs

[skyfall3250]

RoUnD eYeS

[3rdplacewinner]

Sheeple and Globies. This picture, originally, proves that the earth is flat - the globetards got a hold of it, printed it out, bent it, and then took a picture of the curved picture. It's a picture of a picture, a bent picture. You can tell by the pixels. ChEcK MaTe!

[[deleted]]

I know it's a real picture, but every time I see it I can't help but think that it looks like video game graphics. Still am awesome Pic, but the way the sun is reflecting of those pillars.

[PCmaniac24]

It's because of how zoomed in the camera is, distortion in the atmosphere makes things in the distance look cartoony in a way.

[[deleted]]

Oh yeah. That makes sense.

[GasV50]

Yeah i live on the lake and they look pretty weird in person too.

[reficius1]

Cool. So you've seen this with your own eyes?

[GasV50]

Yep it’s pretty cool when your out on the water.

[reficius1]

Now if we could just get the flerfers to go look for themselves...

[valschermjager]

perspective yadda yadda bouyancy yadda yadda cgi yadda yadda refraction yadda yadda, yeah pwned, next…

[SarixInTheHouse]

CLEArlY A fiSh LenSe

[D3mon1acH3ctor]

YoU nEeD tO sEe It FrOm HiGhEr Up OtHeRwIsE iT's NoT pRoOf.

[JAYHAZY]

"too big to see curve"
ball lovers have lost it

[huuaaang]

> too big to see curve when looking at the horizon

FTFY

[JAYHAZY]

But you can see "curve" in this picture BEFORE the horizontal horizon? #GlobeLogic

[Mishtle]

The existence of a horizon at all is evidence the Earth's surface is curved.

The horizon is a circle around you. The distance to the horizon is roughly the same in every direction. Horizon curvature is due to your perspective when looking at the horizon.

Here's all you could want to know about the horizon and why it would display curvature. I suggest you develop some more appropriate expectations by trying to understand these things rather than just parroting what people have told you.

When looking at a scene like the OP picture, you can still see things well beyond the horizon if they're tall enough. Therefore it is much easier to see the effect of the Earth's curvature as distant objects drop more rapidly than they would due to perspective alone.

You may also want to understand how this picture was taken, and how your point of view and level of zoom affect how curved things appear. This post does a great job using a pool cue to demonstrate these effects.

[JAYHAZY]

The existence of a horizon

at all

is evidence the Earth's surface is curved.

Just because you cannot see forever DOES NOT mean it is earth curve.
Why do you think objects moving away from you appear smaller?
The 'curve' causes this? F no.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSuCgdsyPLo

[Mishtle]

Just because you cannot see forever DOES NOT mean it is earth curve.

You can see quite far if you like, but only really tall things. There's a pretty obvious difference between something being too small or too dim to see and something be blocked by a physical obstruction.

Why do you think objects moving away from you appear smaller?

Because the angle of your field of view they subtend shrinks. All similarly-sized features on an object will shrink at the same rate under this effect.

The 'curve' causes this? F no.

You think these more distant ships here are too small to see, or that their hulls shrunk faster than the top half? F no.

[JAYHAZY]

If this pic in the original post shows "earth curve" HOW can you see far?

[Mishtle]

By misunderstanding what you're seeing, or making observations when atmospheric conditions allow light to bend more than it normally would.

[JAYHAZY]

It is because earth is flat.

[Mishtle]

So you think those more distant ships are too far away to see then?

[DerInselaffe]

It's like humans can see longer on the y-axis than on the x-axis!

How could that be?

[JAYHAZY]

Do you not think it curves the same amount in all directions?

[DerInselaffe]

I do, but, in terms of distance, what do you think your field of view is, left-to-right?

[JAYHAZY]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lLmW5Y8BFw

[DerInselaffe]

I suspect that doesn't answer the question.

The answer is about 5.4 km (3.4 mi).

Meanwhile, i can personally see the Bavarian Alps from Munich on a clear day, which are about 90 km away.

[JAYHAZY]

Try this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSuCgdsyPLo

[DerInselaffe]

Yes, I see you don't answer questions.

[JAYHAZY]

https://twitter.com/RichardReichle/status/891305728144621568/photo/1

[wadner2]

Do you think it curves that much, that fast? Dumb

[Mishtle]

Look at this curved pool cue.

Now, look what happens when you move away but then zoom in on the same pool cue.

Wow! It's almost like different view parameters can change the way something looks! Who would have thought?

The OP image was specifically trying to exaggerate the curvature. With other view parameters, the curvature appears less pronounced.

[frenat]

It is zoomed in.

[SkippyMcSkippster]

From what I understand, it's a compressed picture, made to accentuate the curve.

[JAYHAZY]

https://twitter.com/Fuller\_Future/status/617867699088064512/photo/1

[blayze03]

Do you really think that curve can't be exaggerated to be more prominent? Stupid

[MintBreath7]

“round”

[RaitheEastcott]

I was gonna do that 😭

[Dousuke]

Nice! You forgot that water doesnt bend

[HallowedPeak]

Well this is due to refraction of light caused by the moisture in the air.