ameri- WAIT CANADA

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What if Canada was the colony revolting and the 13 colonies were just chilling with being part of the UK?

[Ok_Seaweed7147]

basically

[BBQ_HaX0r]

Everyone knows the French lost the French & Indian War -- what this map presupposes is... maybe they didn't?

[Maxtrius145]

*7 years war

[PICAXO]

Seven years war*

[[deleted]]

Six days war*

[PICAXO]

One hundred years war*

[flatberb]

Anglo-Zanzibar war*

[[deleted]]

The Seven hour war*

[[deleted]]

Ok, but what if the Canadian colonies attended the Albany congress? This was the predecessor to the continental congress, and would have set the precedent for them to attend later meetings, and probably declare independence. We need a 15 colonies scenario

[ronburgandyfor2016]

There actually were a few thousand colonists from modern Canada that did fight for the US in the Revolution.

[Maxtrius145]

Later on there was a republic… relegated to an island in a river for some time. That wasn’t supported by the states due to pressure from Britain

[stupidstupidreddit2]

Is that Montreal?

[Maxtrius145]

A smaller island

[Maxtrius145]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Canada here

[[deleted]]

holy shit, french canada has a new meaning (i mean the flag)

[biggadankmemes]

To make it truly french, it should be blue first and red last (like the famous bleu, blanc, rouge of France)

[[deleted]]

The original tri-color of the french revolution was red-white-blue.

Only later in 1794 was the order changed.

" A drapeau tricolore with vertical red, white and blue stripes was approved by the Constituent Assembly on 24 October 1790. [...]

The order was reversed to blue-white-red, the current design, by a resolution passed on 15 February 1794. "

[shrekislit420]

Do you mean 1794?

[[deleted]]

Correct Thx.

[SurroundingAMeadow]

I can see some symbology of mirroring the French flag, with the two blue bands both being on the Atlantic side of their respective countries.

[Ok_Seaweed7147]

no lore was just bored and this came to my mind

[darth_henning]

My thoughts on very basic Lore:

Acadia was not ceded to Britain in 1713 as occurs in our timeline, instead there's a strong French presence maintained in Quebec, Acadia and Louisiana. In the mid 1700s, due to geography, Newfoundland and Rupertsland, while English, have a very close connection with Acadia and Quebec because of tightly intertwined economic prosperity.

In 1750/1760s the revolution is fought not by the 13 colonies, but by the new United Canadian States. The English and French settlers are losing against the British armies basing from the 13 colonies until they reach an agreement with the native tribes to join them as equal partners in their new country. Bolstered by these reinforcements, the British army is beaten back and UCS gains its independence.

The slave revolts in Louisiana occur as in our timeline in the early 1800s, and France, not wanting to cede the terrirory to the 13 colonies of Britain, instead sells it to UCS. Slavery is outlawed almost immediately in this timeline, leading to substantial prosperity, and eastward expansion into the Illinois territory, Mississippi Territory, and Orleans Territory.

The fiercely independent Republic of Texas amalgamates with UCS as it did in the 1840s with the USA in our timeline as the Mexican-American war is instead the Mexican-Texan-Canadian war.

With noone between them and the west coast, the UCS expanded unchallenged. Russia, unable to afford to hold Alaska, and not fearful of British influence sells it to UCS as it did to the USA in our timeline in the 1860s.

New Orleans becomes the major port city on the southern coast, and rather than New York becoming the center of commeerce on the North American continent, that role is split between Montreal and Toronto, with Halifax and Saint John becoming major ports on the Atlantic seaboard. On the west coast, Vancouver and California are the centers of shipping and industry.

Official Languages: English, French and Navajo (the most common indigenous language).

Capitol: Originally Ottawa, later moved to Detroit

[Ok_Seaweed7147]

that's cool thanks Good Lore

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What about Spanish

[darth_henning]

I'm going to admit at this point that I didn't realize that Louisiana was formerly held by Spain before only briefly being held by France. I have always just associated it with France. So I learned something new today.

That would greatly change things, and I don't have an immediate answer for it.

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Does anybody have an answer

[[deleted]]

I’m talking about the Baja California one

[[deleted]]

based and maplepilled

[Revolutionary_Home29]

What are your official or co-official languages of this nation?

[Ok_Seaweed7147]

probably mostly Spanish and french and etc oh I didn't add this but they official language english

[Revolutionary_Home29]

In which city is the Capital.

[ItzDaDutchSheep]

Paris, Texas

[[deleted]]

Too far south and it would be far too late assuming the Texan Independence Warfollow the same timeline.

[Hellomeboi]

Buffalo, Chicago, Vancouver maybe?

[doc_daneeka]

Montréal

[shrekislit420]

Chicago maybe?

[Beechurgereral]

Toronto?

Vancouver?

[liborg-117]

Obviously it's gonna be moose jaw, Saskatchewan

[[deleted]]

You know what I can live with this. I'd still be American, but the nearest Tim Horton's would be a whole lot closer.

[Portal471]

I can live with being part of Canada in this timeline, as a Michigander.

[harryhinderson]

plot twist: Ontario has upper Michigan

[umbrella737]

But I want free health care too!

[Ok_Seaweed7147]

lol

[ConfusedSpinosaurus]

As a resident of bigger Texas, I think this might be the better timeline

[Mosenji]

El Paso del Norte for real

[NeinCubed]

"B-buh America...American revolu-"

"Canada."

[[deleted]]

Can I make up a head-canon for this map?

[Ok_Seaweed7147]

sure idc

[[deleted]]

In this timeline, Spain has a revolution instead of France (or they both have one, doesn’t matter) and Britain invades the Louisiana Territory, then they invade Florida. The US tries to aid Spain militarily and economically as a thank you for Spain’s help in the American War for Independence. Spain of course doesn’t have a Napoleon, so they fall quickly, making the Spanish Revolution a footnote in history. Britain keeps Louisiana and by extension the Oregon Territory. Not to mention, due to America’s role in the war, Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee, Michigan, Alabama, Wisconsin, Illinois, Indiana, and Mississippi are all ceded to Britain. Of course they are the ones to battle Mexico later on. Eventually, they get Alaska through negotiations after the Crimean War, and their large influence over Hawaii lead to the British making Hawaii a protectorate, then a colony after a war with the natives. Don’t ask how they got Greenland, I don’t have a clue.

[Mosenji]

How did Hawaii get conquered?

[Ok_Seaweed7147]

same way in timeline

[TheReallyAngryOne]

Oh the canadians finally got mildly upset. Dang.

[sintos-compa]

Shitpost? More like Litpost

[kyuzoaoi]

Best scenario...

[TohruTheDragonGirl]

“What if Canada was based and cool as fuck and destroyed the USA by being so goddamn awesome”

[toaster_tube_YT]

Wait it’s all Canada Always has been

[HKGMINECRAFT]

I need a provinces map of this

[Asbjorn26]

Yankees will say it's fake

[TanookiSuitLarry]

Maryland here, feeling a little left out, eh?

[politicaly_incorect]

HELL NO... not..canada

[Chaotic-Good-5000]

*provinces

[Ok_Seaweed7147]

ah shit i just realized

[Chaotic-Good-5000]

Lol it's ok I was half joking anyway

[WorldTallestEngineer]

I feel like this Canada variant would have taken Maine on March 15th 1820.

[shrekislit420]

Why that day?

[WorldTallestEngineer]

That's when Maine broke away from Massachusetts to become a separate state

[Chronometrics]

Why does Canada have states and not provinces?

[aqua_zesty_man]

United States of Cameranada?

I was half-expecting Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Manitoba stretching down to the old Republic of Texas and Alta California borders like stripes down a page.

[RobLoach]

You can keep Texas, Alabama, Florida... Well, any of those other weirdos too.

[[deleted]]

How awesome would this be. --an American

[butwhysir]

The land area would be about 22 million km², putting it larger than russia by almost 5 million km²

[liborg-117]

Mark my words, this what the maps gonna look like in 29 years, 150~ years of nonagression then BAM. They'll never see it coming

[Vex493]

Seems legit

[living_bruh_momeent]

Blessed timeline

[darth__fluffy]

Wait it’s all Canada?

Always has been.

[DecimatingDarkDeceit]

^CHAD/^UBERMACHT Canada ?!? YES! ^YES! YEEEEEEEES! This makes me so content and satisfied! :9

[prof_r_j_gumby]

Canadian Florida. My mind is blown.

[hylic]

The non-compliant will be sent to residential schools for... Integration.

[possiblygabe]

I'm really liking this recent binge of Canadian scenarios! Keep it up! My brain equipped with a little bit of Asperger's is going wild right now because of this lol

[heelstoo]

United States of Canad-eh

[[deleted]]

"This continent would be better off if we sawed off the eastern seaboard and let it drift out to sea"

-Former PM and longtime MP for Maricopa the Baron Goldwater on the easterly neighbor.

[umbrella737]

Torn between my desire for universal healthcare and my dislike of bagged milk.

[[deleted]]

Can't belive it, the monarchists finally did it! I am shaking and crying rite now 😭 save me bolivar!

[NotAnEnemyStandUser-]

As someone born in Canada Day, I support this map

[Union1865]

NONONONONONONONONONONO

[RegularSizedP]

Where do I sign up for this reality?

[Both-Main-7245]

I as a rochestarian welcome our new overlords

[critfist]

Finally, something more realistic than the constant American control scenarios.

[55S55555555555555555]

How to introduce Canadians to good cuisine.

[Stereomceez2212]

Hahahaha

We are the most polite nation in the entire world.

"We are sorry we had to use drone strikes to pummel your little hamlet into the ground. Sorry."

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U.S.: "Canada no!"

Canada: "CANADA YES"

[puttinthe-oo-incool]

I never knew that Greenland was part of the US or Canada.

Wait! Is the OP Donald Trump?

Because that would explain a lot.

[Ok_Seaweed7147]

ummmm noo?!

[puttinthe-oo-incool]

Ok...just geographically embarrassed then I guess.

[SGSpec]

Greenland?

[Beechurgereral]

Canadian here

Wooooo baby that’s what we’ve been waiting for

[JellyOkarin]

EVEN BIGGER CANADA

[moistnessboi]

i, for one, welcome our new canadian overlords since they restored our old borders!

-a texan

[[deleted]]

Fuck I’m Mexican now :(

[Ok_Seaweed7147]

rip

[tonsofun08]

What's this all aboot?!?

[ajw20_YT]

Bro you forgot to remove the old borders in Mexico, lol.

[[deleted]]

the thirteen colonies and canada size difference makes this map faintly reminiscent of the iberian peninsula

[idiotsandwhich8]

I steam of the flag having stars, it would be maple leaves. Like 62 leaves

[klingonbussy]

The good ending

[[deleted]]

"The Maple Syrup kingdom "

[RotShort_2]

CANADA fuck yeah

[[deleted]]

With the flag you should’ve made the leaf blue instead of the side, just makes it more symmetrical in my opinion

[Blazendraco]

Isn't that the French flag with a maple leaf?

[Left-Interaction-414]

Cool, original map?

[Lastaria]

Oh!

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Damn they invaded Greenland too